Does anyone know of a good Movie convertor? I have all my movies already converted on my PC to full size Xvid for streaming to the TV (Pinnacle showcenter) but want ro reduce them down for my exec.
I have always used pocket divx and lathe in the past but can never get the audio in sync.
I have been trialling Pocket DVD studio but the playback is far inferior and choppy compared to pocket divx encoder!
You've got 2 options.
1. DVD to Pocket PC by Makayama Software Tokyo, Japan. Compress 2hr DVD to 128 mb only.
2. Canopus Pro Coder 2 also a good compressor to all formats and media type. http://www.canopus.us/us/products/procoder2/pm_procoder2.asp
I use both of them and very satisfied. All my memory cards were full of Movies or Music.
Or take the plunge and learn how to use VirtualDub for the best results. It takes a fair bit of learning, but once you know what you're doing it's quicker and produces better results than any other software.
Already posted in this forum..use Advanced X-Video Convertor or use the Smart Movie Convertor 2.76..yr problems will be solved...
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Already posted in this forum..use Advanced X-Video Convertor or use the Smart Movie Convertor 2.76..yr problems will be solved...
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Thanks for the help folks. These two look exactly what I am looking for.
I cant try them yet as I am doing a conversion using movie shrink & burn 2. I will post my results for all that I test later!
Hi question...
Coming from a P9 user, so please excuse my ignorance..
Isnt there any need to resize the screen/view? what's the dimension? When i converted movies for my p9 before, i had to make the movie smaller to fit my realplayer.. is there such a thing for Universal? What are the dimensions?
Thanks!!!
The screensize on the universal is 640x480 which is about the same as a 700MB XviD or DivX which may jitter a little and take up way too much storage.
I usually shrink down to 320 x 240 (maintaining the aspect ratio) or even less which doesnt present any noticeable loss of picture quality on such a small screen. For best playback result I use the free TCPMP (formerly Betaplayer) in full screen.
Try pocket DVD studio, simple easy uses wm codec, so you get good quality. Aslo allows you to output films, fo ppc, palm and other players. Bst thing is it does all the hard work. You can also cover pretty much all files. I have just converted all my south park series from realplayer to my m5000.
And you can resize screen to your hearts content from smartphone to vga size.
Hi, a quick question about video screen size. I have tried full screen mode on my o2 Exec and the playback is still the same size, with a dark boarder around it, what can i do to fix it? Thanks!
@keith
I think that for WMP to play at full screen the movie needs to be converted to 640x480 otherwise it will remain at 320x240 even when full screen, I think that betaplayer does not suffer this problem and will expand the movie to fill the screen.
So either convert your movie to 640x480 or change your movie player.
Don't quote me on any of this, I dont even have my Universal yet but from what I have read this seems to be the case.
Regards
I will try a different player; to convert them into 640X480 will be space consuming... thanks.
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@keith
I think that for WMP to play at full screen the movie needs to be converted to 640x480 otherwise it will remain at 320x240 even when full screen, I think that betaplayer does not suffer this problem and will expand the movie to fill the screen.
So either convert your movie to 640x480 or change your movie player.
Don't quote me on any of this, I dont even have my Universal yet but from what I have read this seems to be the case.
Regards
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I've had your same problem. I tried resizing videos (with no success).
I now use TCPMP. I can now play avi's and mpeg's in full screen (File sizes are a bit prohibitive though)
No offence if I can covert a 3hr long bolloywood film to fit easily approx 250mb at vga resloution? How can you not covet 2 hour films in high quality to tiny sizes?
Have you also tried pocket divx?
Can I say that the scale to fit function is not working for media player? Logically, I would assume that scale to fit means whatever the resolution, stretch it to fit the screen, even if that means quality lost, no? i am not a big fan of converting it to 640 if that means double the size...
Thanks!
Got it now... Im using TCPMP now and it's far superior than WMP. I never did use WMP after I installed this wonderful video player.. It even played smallville xvid... which i cant even play in my laptop without the codecs installed..
Really enjoying this phone.. well, despite of the bugs..
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Can I say that the scale to fit function is not working for media player? Logically, I would assume that scale to fit means whatever the resolution, stretch it to fit the screen, even if that means quality lost, no? i am not a big fan of converting it to 640 if that means double the size...
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If you use the right software to encode you can then also then play natively at 640 on your exec.
TCPMP includes Xvid/Divx codecs so it doesnt care what codec was used to encode and doesnt suffer from the WMP screensize problem. IMHO TCPMP is far superior to any other player. If you want a free encoder for your existing movies use pocketdivx encoder. I trialed about 5 commercial products a few months back but didnt have time to post my results. None of them were perfect and pocketdivx encoder produced the best picture/sound quality results but does suffer from time sync issues from time to time.
Its a bit like the cheap £30 asda dvd syndrome. They play anything whilst the top of the range Japanes brands play nothing except retail DVDs
I use Pocket DVD Player for Palm, yes for PALM, to convert a movie and use TCPMP to resize it to fit the screen of my O2 EXEC. So basically, I use the 5th setting where the black part on a wide screen DVD is automatically croped out, thus giving a a full screen effect by automatically taking out the black part of the screen found on the bottom and top part of a wide screen DVD movie.
I use the following settings:
Resolution: 464x224 (104kPixel)
Output Size: about 488 MB
Audio: 40 Kbps, 44 KHz, Mono
Video: 464x224, 15 fps
Duration: about 2:08:00
With the following settings I can convert any DVD and play it smoothly with no lags, skips, nor any miss in audio. As you can see, the only drawback is it uses up a huge amount of SD card space, about 488 MB. But I don't care, as long as it is easy and simple. I can easily delete and exchange any movie I want. I can also make the output size smaller, but it causes skips and the quality of conversion is not that good. With the above settings, my EXEC turns into a mini DVD player. Heck, it made my friends wonder and ask, "where did I bought such a small DVD player?" They were amazed to hear, "Ohhhh it's my phone."
Not only that, since I am using 464x224 size conversion, I can play it on my TH55/E1 and O2 XDA EXEC with one conversion and both running on TCPMP.
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Hi, I have a Media Center PC which records my TV shows, and Windows Media Player 10 automatically converts and copies them to the Pocket PC, running WMP10 also. Lovely.
Only thing is, I have this lovely big VGA screen on the HTC Universal, and the videos take up about one-quarter of it :-S
I have changed the 'Quality' settings in WMP10 but they make no difference to the dimensions of the image.
Any ideas welcomed! Surely MS aren't silly enough to limit the picture size to the older PPC screens only?
Download TCPMP, a freeware player and go full screen. Much better IMO than media player for movies, and will also play divx/xvid encoded movies
Download TCPMP, a freeware player and go full screen. Much better IMO than media player for movies, and will also play divx/xvid encoded movies
I second (or third!) that. TCPMP is the dog's danglies when it comes to PPC videos.
I've just about given up on video playback on the Exec :evil:
I've tried all sorts and nothing gives anywhere near smooth playback in full screen.
I read somewhere on here it was to do with the way video is handled...something about it being done by the CPU and not in dedicated video hardware.
If that is the case, it's serious flaw for the Exec and mine will be going back
I've never had any problems playing videos using TCPMP on my jasjar, once it was set to Intel XScale video and I tweaked some buffer settings, i'm only dropping 3 frames from 7000.
Flubster
But I want to use Windows Media Player! It comes as standard, I don't want to install extra software that takes up space, and I like the fact that it uses the same playlists and ratings as my desktop PC, and many other reasons.
Anyone work out how to get 320x240 videos to fill the screen instead of play in a little box in the middle of full-screen?
The issue of 320 x 240 videos not being stretched is listed as a known problem on the clubimate website, so I guess for now it's not fixable?
The fact that is is listed means that they're working on it for future ROM upgrades though, so it looks like you'll have to wait for a bit.
In the meantime, TCPMP will have to do.
(I'd prefer to use WMP too, but until I find a way to add an Xvid codec and an .ogg codec to WMP10, I'm going to stick with TCPMP, rather than re-encode my entire video & music catalogue)
I downloaded a movie (avi for PPC) for testing purpose and was unable to see the video in Windows Media Player. I hear sound but no video. Would this player work?
I know this probably got disscused but i cant seem to find anything releated to what im going to ask if i am blind kindly guide me in the right direction.
OK I have been using Blaze Media Pro software i tried quite a few settings still unsucsseful trying to get a full 700meg 800meg AVI, MPG ect movie to compress to a nicely small and rather no video viewing loss file. So i want some people to share their settings and what software they are using. If it helps most of what i am trying to compress and covert are xvid, divx ect I am hoping you will tell me setting for diffrent types if their are any.
Thanks For Any Help Given....
I have not used the program you speak of.
However, I have spent years reencoding movies etc etc & one program that I have come across which is just the ticket for encoding movies for my Xda Exec is Pocket DivX Encoder (the commerical version of which is 'called Lathe').
If you get bored one day I highly recommend you try it out - you won't be disappointed (well I hope you won't be anyway). Oh, and I use TCPMP to play my movies, everything else I tried came a poor second.
Andy
Ehhhh..... Ehhhh.. mmmmm..... what settings are you using i downloded pocket Divx and i was trying the VGA one E800. These things still take along time to convert if you was to covert 800meg file how long does it take. I was hoping a full screen decent sound and good compression please let me know what settings.
P.S i am using the TCPMP, i think the windows one is absoultley crap still trying to get into the ROM to remove that crap aswell as File Explorer. Ahh well thats another stroy.
I use PocketDVDStudio with the DivX encoder and found 15frames/sec, video 149kbps and audio 96kbps gave a file size of 600Mb for a film lasting 2 hours 17mins, quality excellent. It took a lot of attempts to get the best combination for the Universal.
cheers cjb
Yo!
Setting I go for are:
The best way to conciderably reduce file size AND increase relative quality is to reduce the frame size. If you find this 'unacceptable' or shocking so to speak, concider that a VCR played on your massive (in comparison) TV at home uses an effective frame size of 352 x 288 (PAL) 352 x 240 (NTSC).
Now the Xda Exec screen size is 3.6" (@640 x 480), compared to say my TV which is 28". (Of course the Exec is viewed close up, the TV far away) - so concider a reduction factor of about 1.5 for comparitive viewing pleasure.
Hence I always use a 1/4 VGA frame size, factored by 1.5ish, and rounded such that both x&y sizes are divisible by 16 (due to the way that Mpeg4 encoding works) i.e. 256x192 {this results in a staggeringly low 16x12=192 macroblocks for the encoding process to deal with, hence very small file sizes).
Further reductions in file size can be achieved by reducing the frame rate but I'd choose 15fps as an absolute minimum.
Oh, for best quality resulting video for lowest file sizes use the XviD codec - Install the latest Koepi version for best results. Again use an absolute minimum of 3 pass encoding for best video quality results.
Finally the Audio - reduce the file size taken up by the audio stream by re-encoding to use Mono, MP3, lowest bit-rate: you won't notice the difference (apart from the stereo of couse).
Andy
BTW - the conversion process is all pretty much button clicking when I use Lathe, and a 3-pass encode usually takes under 1 1/2 to 2hrs on my 3.6Ghz beasty. Hell this program even encodes straight from DVD source!!!!
hi ppl! I use the Smartmovie 3.11 for pocket pc, is good
Pocket DVD Studio
cjb said:
I use PocketDVDStudio with the DivX encoder and found 15frames/sec, video 149kbps and audio 96kbps gave a file size of 600Mb for a film lasting 2 hours 17mins, quality excellent. It took a lot of attempts to get the best combination for the Universal.
cheers cjb
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Hi, Can Any one give me the Pocket DVD Studio full version so that i can split and convert my Video from MPEG to Avi for pocket pc. It has so many good features like remove Black screen from Movie.
Thanks
Hi, i got myself a quick 2gig memory card today and want to put some of my movies on it, i have 2 questions
What is a decent converter that i can use?
What settings would run on Universal smooth?
Thanks all
Normally works without converted it, in ac format 1,5Gb of movie it will be played smoothly, if not try google to find some converter bc right now i can´t remember any.
hope this help
regards
thanks a million, some tweaking to the player and im fixed
thanks again mate
what you said works, but i have no quality and it keeps sticking my video, any ideas why?
I went through the various options for this a few months ago. In TCPMP, set the following for best performance:
In Video:
Smooth video (only 50%)
Quality: Normal
Video driver: Intel XScale
In Settings - DirectDraw
Overlay with colorkey
In Settings - Intel XScale
Everything selected
Leave all other video settings off or at the default settings.
Unfortunately, the universal can't manage any video (XviD, MP4 or WMV) I've tried at the native resolution of 640x480 without some serious frame skipping. But it seems to cope well with videos I've encoded for my Archos, which are XviD or DivX, 320x240, and are encoded at 1000 kbps or less. You can use B-Frames (they don't take much processing power and give a significant performance increase), but don't use GMC or Q-Pel.
As for converters/encoders, take your pick. There are loads. Dr DivX is pretty simple to use, but IIRC isn't available any more. Your best bet is to follow one of the guides at doom9.org.
thanks, its ashame my mp cant read it because i prefer the interface on windows media player then core media player aswel as my playlists, thanks again, hope some update for the codecs or something comes out soon
Why not try Windows Media Encoder if you are just converting from one format to another (don't know if you can rip DVD, never tried). The built in profiles are good enough for the Uni's screen. To rip from DVD I use IMTOO dvd ripper. Just create a profile as listed above and away you go.....Good luck,Pug
TCPMP+PocketDivxEncoder (http://divx.ppccool.com) ... for the best results!
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TCPMP+PocketDivxEncoder (http://divx.ppccool.com) ... for the best results!
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Is it better than DrDivx? I have had some good success with DrDivx. The problem is that it wastes some space for the widescreen formats and I would prefer to use every single pixel available. Is there a setting in DrDivx that reformats the movie to fit exactly in the Tornado screen?
I use
Fox Video Converter. Virtually any format with any setting and you can adjust any of the settings to suit yourself. Generally a 700Mb Divx converts into a roughtly 250-300Mb WMV or ASF or whatever you want. Then TCPMP.
I've been using the TD2 for almost a week now. Really really happy with it,but I haven't tested any videos yet,though it was one of my major priorities behind buying this phone. Actually I am bit concerned after some reviews of the phone by some websites,they stated the Video playback is not up to the mark(Like-Skipped frames,Sound cracking etc.). If this is true then the large 3.2' screen will make no sense and I would be very SAD. So please vote and input your comments.
BTW-By Video I mean AVI files(either .xvid or .divx encoded) for PC playback(VGA or above quality),please don't say anything about .mp4,3gp and Conversion of videos. Maybe CorePlayer is the option,I don't have it as it's not free.
Thanks in advance.
IME the device on its own barely plays any video formats and doesn't even play them so well. I bought CorePlayer and it plays most things and quite well too. Sometimes you just have to pay for stuff. Shame the UI is a bit ropey though.
convert the video first to smaller resolution..it will be better..and yes coreplayer is my favourite player too..
Without saying anything about certain formats we've been asked not to mention , I have converted some films (they had to be converted, they were DVDs to start with!) and have got to a place where I'm happy, extremely, very slight lip-sync issue, but watchable, and on the 3.2 screen they look great, no issues with Video, just need to get the Audio-Video sync sorted.
BTW-Haven't used an existing files, converted films specifically for TD2 (the ones converted for my XDA Orbit were a bit on the small size due to the screen size.
PS Only use HTC Album to view, WMP doesn't seem to want to play anything I give to it.
I have excellent quality with PocketDivxEncoder to make my movie smaller.
On my TD2/Topaz i use CorePlayer because it's WideScreen.
TCPMP won't run on my phone and WMP doesn't have the codecs.
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
oh and to be even more clear - all <=700MB xvid encoded movies running superb smoothly, WITHOUT any compression
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
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Just to be clear, the ripped DVD can't just be a standard file, it has to have been converted first, even if that conversion keeps the resolution and size intact, even Coreplayer can't play vob files.
Coreplayer also doesn't support AC3 audio which is a huge limitation and disappointment This means that any video files with DD are no go.
watched the pilot of Caprica. The file was downloaded for PC viewing. was a Xvid encoded .avi file resoloution 624 x 352 and encoded with 23 fps with a data rate of 133 Kbps (It says 133kbps for audio as well, so I assume that is the total ofr both streams).
Played perfectly on Core player
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
I think 1.3.2 build 6909 is the current release so maybe the version you are using is a bit old. It should play xVid avis no problem at that resolution. You could alos try the free TCMP from which coreplayer was derived. http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/
ithehappy said:
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
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What was the data rate? My version of Core is older (1.25) and the same res file flew for me. It was a 700MB file for 90 odd minutes of video.
I tried two videos(music),here are the detail:
The First one,(a Taylor Swift video),72mb
The details from my PC- Time-4 mins 37 secs,Resolution 640*352,Audio format-Lame MP3,Audio Bit rate-192kbps and Video Frame rate-23fps/sec, Video Date rate-2099kbps, Video Sample size-24bits, Video compression-FFDS
Now when I tried to play that by Core Player 1.30 on my TD2,it didn't run at all,
Now the details of the Video by Core Player-
Video- AVC aka H.264,Codec-Core AVC and I played it for first 30 seconds and it played 67 frames and Dropped 985 frames,the rate was 1.527
Now the second music video,98.6mb
Resolution-512*384,Runtime-18 mins 57 seconds, Frame rate-23fps/sec,Data rate-710kbps,Video sample size-24bits,Video compression-XVID
Now Core player played this video well,very well infact,the Details by Core player,
Video-MPEG4,Codec-Core ASP,I watched it for first 6 mins and it played 744 frames and dropped 7,Played FPS-23.88
Thanks
I'm guessing that You copied your file to the memory card. If so, did You install SDTuneUp drivers? It looks like they are a must have.
Sir,I don't know what is SD tune up driver and where to install from. BTW-I don't have a memory card on my TD2,it didn't come out of the box and so lazy to buy a seperate one.
hi, I am wondering how the performance is watching football (soccer) highlights from youtube or www.footytube.com , does anyone have any ideas? I have tried this on sony Ericsson w995 and the ball is invisible :s
I know it has been mentioned before but converting using he HTC Touch HD ‘Encoder’ program works well using HTC Album playback on my stock ROM TD2 playing back from the SD Card.
I understand that some of you are resistant to converting files and do not want to go this route but I thought it might help some of those reading this thread that smooth HQ playback from the SD card is absolutely possible without paying any money if you spend the time converting files on a PC (or Mac).
Tony
ive found threads talking about HandBrake and SUPER... but after a few days of reading and trying, the best i can get is an audo track of the movie to play, but no video with handbrake... and super plays both but the audio lags behind a few seconds???
i use DVDFab to get the raw data files saved to my computer, now im trying to shrink those files down so i can run them on my TP2...
forgive me for being 'slow' lol, but im at a loss...
maybe im using the wrong programs and theres something better? something a little more clean cut and to the point?
I haven't done it in a few years, but I used to use the program DVD2PPC to convert DVD movies into a smaller (200-300MB) file for viewing on my Ipaq. Google it to find the website.
Costs $19.95 though, but I remember that it worked quite well. And there is a free trial.
John
i use DVD shrink ( freeware ) and DivX convert for any movies i want to put on TP2. You can download these all for free from their websites.
i use an old program called FlasKMPEG
able to crop and resize etc and it always maintains a high quality movie with a DivX codec
Baddaboom works but it cost. You can find it for free if you look hard. it will convert a movie in less than 30 minutes. thats dvd to 720x480 mp4 so smaller sizes should be faster. but it depends on your video card as well. 100% gpu proccessing to convert so it won't lag your pc while converting it.