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Video in windows media player

Since there seems to be some problems with TCPMP on the tytn, and I'm new to the pda phone business and don't want to mess around too much with my new phone just yet, I've decided to stick with windows media player for now when it comes to video.
So I've been trying movie maker and windows media encoder and some other software to convert some sitcom episodes into 320x240 wmv format just to try out the playback on the tytn, but the video has so far turned out a little bit choppy on the tytn in all my attempts, like every few seconds the image stutters a bit.
Is this just the the way it should be or is it possible to get totally smooth video playback with wmp on the tytn?
If anyone has any tips to share on how to encode video for the tytn for the best result, what software and settings to use etc, it would be greatly appreciated.

media player tends to suck especially with videos on all WM units it seems. there is pocket encoder that you can use (type it in google, sorry don't have the exact name) Lathe came up with a paid version of it, but it isn't as reliable as the free one (yeah i got suckered in to shelling out the $8 for it for no reason)

Problems playing .avi on my Touch HD

Hi I've just received my HD and overall I'm very impressed. I was a smartphone user previously so I’m having to come to terms with TouchFlo and Windows Mobile all at the same time!
The only real problem I’m having is playing .avi video. I've transferred an .avi file to my memory card but it won't play in CorePlayer (need the AC3 codec I think) and TCPMP doesn't load (get a crash screen) and mobile divx plays the video but it’s a mess on the screen.
I've even tried to encode the video file with PocketDivXEncoder but I think this needs TCPMP to play and it looks terrible in Mobile Divx.
So my question is how do I successfully play an .avi as this is one of the main reasons I bought my HD.
Also one further question with appointments in the calendar when I get a reminder the notification pop up doesn't appear till I click on the alarm icon at the top of the screen - is this due to touchflo and can you force WM6.1 to always show the notification - I’m finding I’m forgetting about meetings because of this!
Thanks in advance of your help.
JM

I've tried playing avi (divx) files with great success. I have been using CorePlayer (v1.2.5). Maybe you should try another video file? it should work

Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?

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Interesting - are you using a special codec with that or just the player?
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I now see your problem, I had originally tried only avi movies with mp3 audio (like most of my videos). I tested it with a file with AC3 audio and it appears that CorePlayer doesnt have that codec.
Guess your only option with movies with AC3 audio is to convert them, or you might be able to get an AC3 codec somewhere.

So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?

JetMouse said:
So is there a way of converting my video into avi + mp3 rather than AC3 as it sounds like that would sort my problem?
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You could try the freeware video converter program 'SUPER'.
SUPER allows you to convert easily many aspects of a video including size, frame rate, format of video and audio, etc.
I use it all the time to convert my camera videos for use with my Hard Drive TV Media Player.
Don't try and download it from the developers web site it's a minefield in how to get the program.
Instead get it direct from Download.com here:-
http://www.download.com/Super-Video-Converter/3000-2194_4-10277613.html
Beards

I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?

yes please, can handle a typical rip of 350mb tv show or 700mb movie without problems?

Insaneboy said:
I'm about to buy a Touch HD and was wondering if someone can confirm that it can playback video files (.avi) that can be found around the web (e.g. tv shows, movies and such) smoothly without conversion. (just transfer and play)?
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It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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Could you share the FPS and bitrate please?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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This is exactly whay i'm trying to do - can you tell me which video player you used?

edwardscdr said:
It certainly can. I watched a whole divx movie i downloaded in full resolution (640 i think) without any conversion, and it was working great. havent tried a TV show yet but i guess it will work fine.
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How did you manage that, mines plays the videos but they are jerky, seems like it's caching the film. I've even tried same file on iphone & hd, iphone was much smoother. what am i doing wrong??
Peter.

I've got to agree here with edwardscdr. I have no problem whatsoever in playing .avi files using Core Player 1.2.5
I believe the problem that others are having is down to what software and system associated files individuals have installed on their Phone. These could be effecting the performance of the playback.
It's a bit extreme but one sure way of finding out the problem is to hard reset the device and install ONLY Core Player (I personally did this when I first received my Touch HD).
Next transfer a video/movie file and play it........ Do you notice any improvements?
If so then at least you know it's down to what was previously installed.
To then eliminate the culprit that was causing the problem is to install software titles one-by-one and on each occasion check the playback of the video.
When it changes and no longer runs smoothly then BANG.... you have your culprit.
Beards

its the ac3, core player can't play it
i wish i can convert the audio via super...

sound can be changed, the audio codecs will show different results when using a different container, im just used to the .mp4 container so i didnt see an audio codec change to mp3

AC3 will play on the old TCPMP beta, the screen is buggy (missing buttons etc) but it does work. If you set up file extensions (in the options settings in both apps) to play on different media players you won't have any trouble (eg: AC3 plays on TCPMP, divx/xvid plays very well on Coreplayer).
The only videos i have trouble playing are in the H264 codec, but that's not a surprise as it is an advanced codec that can make some older desktops slow down.
As far as I am aware, the only media player that takes advantage of hardware acceleration is the built in media player with the HD. For optimum video playback you'd probably want to convert your video files with a third party app into mp4, BUT as an experienced heavy user of video files I find that a combo of Coreplayer, TCPMP and the built in player works just fine for nearly all occasions.
Hope this helps.

the videos are kinda bit pixelated also in tcpmp, the play buttons are center below but u cant see them until u click them ahha

Coreplayer

I'd like to know if Coreplayer will produce noticeably better video playback than the Windows Media Player or HTC Album Player that are already built in to the phone.
I don't care about other features or the number of different formats supported. If I take a simple .mp4 and play that same file with all three players, will CorePlayer have a faster frame rate or any other noticeable improvement?
Thanks for any info.

Coreplayer in my opinion is a great piece of software that you will really enjoy. It is a must for PPC!!

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will CorePlayer have a faster frame rate or any other noticeable improvement?
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Coreplayer will be a lot slower than the built in apps, as it is unable to make use of GPU acceleration. People like it because it allows playback of a wider range of codecs and file types. The best video peformance is got by transcoding to .mp4 format and playing with HTCAlbum.

I used core player a lot over the past 2 months. It does have acceleration for mpeg4. I used Handbrake to encode up to 1500kbps and 672x378 Resolution. You can go higher in resolution, but you than cannot multitask without stutter. If I try to do the same with h.264, I am lucky to get up to 480x272 at 100% video playback.

Coreplayer cannot handle 800X480 mp4 videos without stuttering really badly. I am re-encoding some of the videos to 624 X 352 to see if it's more compatible with Coreplayer.
One issue I have with WMP and HTC Album is that they play 2.35 AR movies with the sides cropped and no black bars. I don't know if there's something I need to do when I encode or if that's an issue with the player. I cannot find any options to change this.
Coreplayer will display these movies correctly, but again, the stuttering makes it unwatchable. I am hoping the lower resolution will rectify the problem.
I really can't see any big difference between 624 X 352 xvid files and 800 X 480 mp4 files WRT sharpness and clarity. I don't think screen is big enough to make the distinction between the two resolutions noticeable.

Anything below 700w pixels it will run fine on Coreplayer.
Try out handbrake. It is free. Use FFmepg Mpeg4 files. You can use whatever bitrate you want but I wouldn't go past 1500kbps.

is coreplayer available for free or do i have to pay?

I have a question... I have core player for my device, and I've downloaded hand brake. Im wanting to make mp4's from my dvd collection. what do I need to do, and does handbrake contain everything I need to do this?

nvgear said:
is coreplayer available for free or do i have to pay?
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Core player is a pay application that is about 30 USD. It doesn't do mp4 videos as well as the built in apps as they use hardware acceleration. What core player does better is play other formats such as divx. I get 23 frames per second in high quality out of my 640x480 divx videos.

Although there is a Rhodium ROM on this site that does include it by default.

stupid question
sancmat said:
Core player is a pay application that is about 30 USD. It doesn't do mp4 videos as well as the built in apps as they use hardware acceleration. What core player does better is play other formats such as divx. I get 23 frames per second in high quality out of my 640x480 divx videos.
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I've got Coreplayer and it does well with divx, as you say. I just tried some MP4 videos and indeed they didn't play well. How can I get the built in player (not WM Player) to play something? I've removed all file associations from Coreplayer, which allows me to play an MP4 by clicking on it in File Explorer or Pictures and Videos, but is there a way to get the built in player to play an AVI file?

pistou said:
I've got Coreplayer and it does well with divx, as you say. I just tried some MP4 videos and indeed they didn't play well. How can I get the built in player (not WM Player) to play something? I've removed all file associations from Coreplayer, which allows me to play an MP4 by clicking on it in File Explorer or Pictures and Videos, but is there a way to get the built in player to play an AVI file?
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The stock player will only handle mp4, you just select your videos through the album and you're golden. I have a HD movie that plays with no stutter and DVD quality

chrisrj28 said:
The stock player will only handle mp4, you just select your videos through the album and you're golden. I have a HD movie that plays with no stutter and DVD quality
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FAB, thanks: now I know.
side note (purely conversational) -- I created a test MP4 with HandBrake, but there was no picture on the device, only sound (it plays fine in QuickTime on the desktop) -- back to fiddling with settings!

I use coreplayer since most of my movies are AVI(xvid). I haven't had a glaring problems with coreplayer other then the flickering blue screen when using TV-OUT. I really hate to trans-code videos.
If I really had to use TV-OUT for a video presentation, I found these setting removed 99.9% of the flickering. See link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4761775#post4761775
***edit: I have been using other ROMs and they run fine with the settings listed on the link.***

mda71 said:
I use coreplayer since most of my movies are AVI(xvid). I haven't had a glaring problems with coreplayer other then the flickering blue screen when using TV-OUT. I really hate to trans-code videos.
If I really had to use TV-OUT for a video presentation, I found these setting removed 99.9% of the flickering. See link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4761775#post4761775
***edit: I have been using other ROMs and they run fine with the settings listed on the link.***
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i have had the phone since day one and still havent got core player working right it just stutters along
all i want to is to be able to convert dvd into avi at setting that will display it as close to full screen as possible with audio and video in time
any suggestions would be great

Hanson68 said:
One issue I have with WMP and HTC Album is that they play 2.35 AR movies with the sides cropped and no black bars. I don't know if there's something I need to do when I encode or if that's an issue with the player. I cannot find any options to change this.
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I've not tried this with a video that is wider than 16:9, but certainly one that is narrower than the screen aspect ratio is played zoomed to full-screen by default, but this can be overridden quite easily. In HTCAlbum if you tap the screen you get a row of buttons appearing at the bottom, including pause and stop. The right-hand button controls zooming and stretching. By default a video is zoomed and cropped to fill the screen. Tap the right hand button once and it switches to stretching the video to full screen; tap it a second time and it switches to the correct aspect ratio (with black bars).

@combat goofwing
Are you using the old free CP or the new, $$ one? The free one stutters. The paid one works fine, set to Qtv. No transcoding, no stuttering. I just shoot my vids over and I'm gtg.

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@combat goofwing
Are you using the old free CP or the new, $$ one? The free one stutters. The paid one works fine, set to Qtv. No transcoding, no stuttering. I just shoot my vids over and I'm gtg.
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its paid for and set to qtv but some files still stutter along

Shasarak said:
In HTCAlbum if you tap the screen you get a row of buttons appearing at the bottom, including pause and stop. The right-hand button controls zooming and stretching. By default a video is zoomed and cropped to fill the screen. Tap the right hand button once and it switches to stretching the video to full screen; tap it a second time and it switches to the correct aspect ratio (with black bars).
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Wow. That was so simple. And here I was looking in the menus.
Thanks for the tip!

Accessing the built in HTC Album Player
Can anyone tell me how to access the HTC Album player? It just comes into action when I open a Video file, but can we access the program itself and adjust any settings etc.? One post says it only plays mp4. It plays my 3gp files too. Does it play any other formats?

video/codec player for tp2

Hi
I know there are a few video player out there like divx, core player and the media player itself. What I usually watch at home are
avi files, mkv, real player, not much of mp4 unless I need to transcode them myself. Someone give me some idea what I will most likely to use or be able to read smoothly with the tp2. Thank you.

Not sure what you are asking
On my T-Mobile Touch Pro2 I use the stock media player that comes on the ROM.
For movies and downloaded videos I use the "Microsoft Zune" mp4 setting for videos.
For example, on my DVD movies I have used Slysofts "AnyDVD" and CloneDVD Mobile for converting my movies into a format that will play on my TP2.
The Slysoft Clone DVD Mobile has various encoders you can select, depending on the device you have.
I spent a half day trying various settings because "Touch Pro2" was not one of the available settings. I eventually found that "Microsoft Zune (MP4)" works perfect.
Not sure if I can provide links, so just Google "Slysoft CloneDVD mobile" and the site will come up.
Hope that helps.
Sidenote: Windows WMV format also plays on the TP2 but as you might suspect the quality is horrible and it lags big time.

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Sidenote: Windows WMV format also plays on the TP2 but as you might suspect the quality is horrible and it lags big time.
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What? WMV is usually better quality for me.

What program is used to play Transformer movies?

What program is used to play the Transformer movies? It does not have much options like CorePlayer but it did a good job of playing the Transformer movies.
Also, if I want to use it to play other movies that I encode using this same player, where do I put these new movies. Do I put it in the folder called "Transformers" in the SD card? But then how do the Transformer movies have their own icon? Still trying to figure this out.

It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.

Which would be a better player? The default one on the HD2 or CorePlayer (the latest version). I know that CorePlayer is not free but I just like to know which one performs better. CorePlayer can play .mkv files so that is a good advantage.

The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and sometimes stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).

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The HTC player (WMP) works well for some file types. I have CorePlayer installed for any odd media types, but the UI is pretty poor. Also give TCPMP a shot (it's the evolution of the open-source predecessor of CorePlayer, and now it has a new touch-friendly UI too).
Though to be honest I've personally sort of given up on high-quality video playback on the HD2-- the performance is just so inconsistent. Even the Transformers movies it comes with (which I've since transferred to my Class 6 16GB MicroSD) don't always play smoothly and often stutter or slow down when I'm demoing them, so the only safe settings are lower quality, at which point it becomes useless because I don't have time to transcode videos (that's partially the point of having such a powerful processor, but it seems WM can drag down even a 1 GHz Snapdragon).
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hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.

GHOST99K said:
hmmmmm.... i dont know but transformers plays very smoothe on my hd2 and also i recommend latest TCPMP with custom setup.i also convert dvds to mp4 in my pc then sync it to my hd2 and it plays on windows mobile player and and TCPMP,but doesnt play well on my coreplayer though.
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They generally work fine if I soft-reset and make sure Wifi, etc. are off and nothing else is running, but otherwise in normal operation, where I might have email open and 3G + Wifi enabled in the background, I often get less than perfect playback. Usually still watchable, but hardly impressive (and definitely not something I'd show to iPhone 3GS-toting friends, who instantly notice the frame drops and such).

amb9800 said:
It's the HTC video player, which is basically a reskinned Windows Media Player.
The Transformers icon is there because the TMoUS HD2 ships with a launcher app (which is basically just a list of two links, tapping on them opens the file).
The launcher app is not customizable, though it should be pretty trivial to build something similar.
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The HTC Streaming Media Player is not a skinned WMP. Its specifically developed by HTC to take advantage of the hardware acceleration for MP4 files with the Snapdragon processor. The video performance is far superior to Coreplayer or WMP.
You can convert your video files to take advantage of this hardware acceleration by using Touch HD Encoder (search

i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.

GHOST99K said:
i recently synced mp4 movies to the "transformers file" and it plays as the same high quality as the transformers does.
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It's pretty clear (to me, at least) that the native Video Player is the best player between the 3.
Video Player plays very limited file types, which is a minus. re-encoding video files to MP4 takes long time, and file size goes up, if you want to keep the same 'high-quality' video.
CorePlayer does a great job playing various file types, so it's easier to view movies, that's for sure.

being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.

Transformers movies path
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance

CorePlayer
fnuna said:
Hi, can someone write the exact path of the Transformers path in the SD card, so the application luncher can find them.
Thanks in advance
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Just make a folder named 'Transformers' on your memory card, install the files to it and it will find it.
Transformers looks wonderful, but converting is such a chore with getting all the settings right and such. Of course, I would want the exact conversion process that was used on Transformers. Coreplayer is the best for me. No converting, just play and the quality is very high. Plus, best music player and streams Youtube videos. It's the only app I've paid nearly $30.00 for and would do it again. I must have it.

ce_rob said:
being a video editor by trade, i have no problem re-encoding video prior to transferring media to my phone as i have the hardware and software to do so painlessly. starting from a high quality/high resolution video file and encoding down to an mp4 correctly yields in smaller filesize while retaining amazing quality. i've recently encoded a full 1080p 25min video (which started at 4gb) down to an HTC Video Player friendly video that was a hair over 300mb...with nearly no difference in quality. it plays perfectly in the native player...no problems whatsoever. i've considered doing a write up for the boards and may do so if i have time, but if you have any questions, fire away.
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Yes I would love to see a write up, the prob Im having is I have been trying different programs & settings for burning my dvd's to my phone and none have looked as good as the Transformers movies. Any insight would be appreciated