video encoding settings - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Hi, I have been encoding my videos with sompy and I have been using 320 x 240 as the encoding settings however when i goto full screen I have black bars... when I play a file that has not been encoded for a smaller resoultion when I go full screen and check the option to fit to screen I get full screen with no bars... what encoding options should I use to not get bars in full screen mode?
im playing with tcpmp..
any ideas what optimal settings would be?

I use an iBook and there is a freeware called HandBrake. I adjust to 320x240 and encode to mp4 and aac audio. It'll take a DVD down to about a 1 gig. It's the same process I use for my iPod video and I get the same quality out of my Prophet and Wizard (OC'd to 240) using TCPMP w/aac plugin for playback as I do w/my iPod. Full screen and perfect quality.

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Movie Conversion

Does anyone know of a good Movie convertor? I have all my movies already converted on my PC to full size Xvid for streaming to the TV (Pinnacle showcenter) but want ro reduce them down for my exec.
I have always used pocket divx and lathe in the past but can never get the audio in sync.
I have been trialling Pocket DVD studio but the playback is far inferior and choppy compared to pocket divx encoder!
You've got 2 options.
1. DVD to Pocket PC by Makayama Software Tokyo, Japan. Compress 2hr DVD to 128 mb only.
2. Canopus Pro Coder 2 also a good compressor to all formats and media type. http://www.canopus.us/us/products/procoder2/pm_procoder2.asp
I use both of them and very satisfied. All my memory cards were full of Movies or Music.
Or take the plunge and learn how to use VirtualDub for the best results. It takes a fair bit of learning, but once you know what you're doing it's quicker and produces better results than any other software.
Already posted in this forum..use Advanced X-Video Convertor or use the Smart Movie Convertor 2.76..yr problems will be solved...
hdubli said:
Already posted in this forum..use Advanced X-Video Convertor or use the Smart Movie Convertor 2.76..yr problems will be solved...
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Thanks for the help folks. These two look exactly what I am looking for.
I cant try them yet as I am doing a conversion using movie shrink & burn 2. I will post my results for all that I test later!
Hi question...
Coming from a P9 user, so please excuse my ignorance..
Isnt there any need to resize the screen/view? what's the dimension? When i converted movies for my p9 before, i had to make the movie smaller to fit my realplayer.. is there such a thing for Universal? What are the dimensions?
Thanks!!!
The screensize on the universal is 640x480 which is about the same as a 700MB XviD or DivX which may jitter a little and take up way too much storage.
I usually shrink down to 320 x 240 (maintaining the aspect ratio) or even less which doesnt present any noticeable loss of picture quality on such a small screen. For best playback result I use the free TCPMP (formerly Betaplayer) in full screen.
Try pocket DVD studio, simple easy uses wm codec, so you get good quality. Aslo allows you to output films, fo ppc, palm and other players. Bst thing is it does all the hard work. You can also cover pretty much all files. I have just converted all my south park series from realplayer to my m5000.
And you can resize screen to your hearts content from smartphone to vga size.
Hi, a quick question about video screen size. I have tried full screen mode on my o2 Exec and the playback is still the same size, with a dark boarder around it, what can i do to fix it? Thanks!
@keith
I think that for WMP to play at full screen the movie needs to be converted to 640x480 otherwise it will remain at 320x240 even when full screen, I think that betaplayer does not suffer this problem and will expand the movie to fill the screen.
So either convert your movie to 640x480 or change your movie player.
Don't quote me on any of this, I dont even have my Universal yet but from what I have read this seems to be the case.
Regards
I will try a different player; to convert them into 640X480 will be space consuming... thanks.
gooroo said:
@keith
I think that for WMP to play at full screen the movie needs to be converted to 640x480 otherwise it will remain at 320x240 even when full screen, I think that betaplayer does not suffer this problem and will expand the movie to fill the screen.
So either convert your movie to 640x480 or change your movie player.
Don't quote me on any of this, I dont even have my Universal yet but from what I have read this seems to be the case.
Regards
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I've had your same problem. I tried resizing videos (with no success).
I now use TCPMP. I can now play avi's and mpeg's in full screen (File sizes are a bit prohibitive though)
No offence if I can covert a 3hr long bolloywood film to fit easily approx 250mb at vga resloution? How can you not covet 2 hour films in high quality to tiny sizes?
Have you also tried pocket divx?
Can I say that the scale to fit function is not working for media player? Logically, I would assume that scale to fit means whatever the resolution, stretch it to fit the screen, even if that means quality lost, no? i am not a big fan of converting it to 640 if that means double the size...
Thanks!
Got it now... Im using TCPMP now and it's far superior than WMP. I never did use WMP after I installed this wonderful video player.. It even played smallville xvid... which i cant even play in my laptop without the codecs installed..
Really enjoying this phone.. well, despite of the bugs..
keithchk said:
Can I say that the scale to fit function is not working for media player? Logically, I would assume that scale to fit means whatever the resolution, stretch it to fit the screen, even if that means quality lost, no? i am not a big fan of converting it to 640 if that means double the size...
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If you use the right software to encode you can then also then play natively at 640 on your exec.
TCPMP includes Xvid/Divx codecs so it doesnt care what codec was used to encode and doesnt suffer from the WMP screensize problem. IMHO TCPMP is far superior to any other player. If you want a free encoder for your existing movies use pocketdivx encoder. I trialed about 5 commercial products a few months back but didnt have time to post my results. None of them were perfect and pocketdivx encoder produced the best picture/sound quality results but does suffer from time sync issues from time to time.
Its a bit like the cheap £30 asda dvd syndrome. They play anything whilst the top of the range Japanes brands play nothing except retail DVDs
I use Pocket DVD Player for Palm, yes for PALM, to convert a movie and use TCPMP to resize it to fit the screen of my O2 EXEC. So basically, I use the 5th setting where the black part on a wide screen DVD is automatically croped out, thus giving a a full screen effect by automatically taking out the black part of the screen found on the bottom and top part of a wide screen DVD movie.
I use the following settings:
Resolution: 464x224 (104kPixel)
Output Size: about 488 MB
Audio: 40 Kbps, 44 KHz, Mono
Video: 464x224, 15 fps
Duration: about 2:08:00
With the following settings I can convert any DVD and play it smoothly with no lags, skips, nor any miss in audio. As you can see, the only drawback is it uses up a huge amount of SD card space, about 488 MB. But I don't care, as long as it is easy and simple. I can easily delete and exchange any movie I want. I can also make the output size smaller, but it causes skips and the quality of conversion is not that good. With the above settings, my EXEC turns into a mini DVD player. Heck, it made my friends wonder and ask, "where did I bought such a small DVD player?" They were amazed to hear, "Ohhhh it's my phone."
Not only that, since I am using 464x224 size conversion, I can play it on my TH55/E1 and O2 XDA EXEC with one conversion and both running on TCPMP.

Video encoding settings?

What encoder should I use to encode videos for the diamond so that it uses the built in mp4 codec?
I tried SUPER software to encode but the videos don't show up in the album and won't play in WMP. I have TCPMP but when a camera perspective changes it becomes choppy. Does Core Player 1.2.5 have the same effect with VGA videos?
anyone? pleas at least tell me your experience with core player?
you are missing the second codec you suggested. typo maybe? thanks anyway your two cents helps a lot.
bugmenot said:
What encoder should I use to encode videos for the diamond so that it uses the built in mp4 codec?
I tried SUPER software to encode but the videos don't show up in the album and won't play in WMP. I have TCPMP but when a camera perspective changes it becomes choppy. Does Core Player 1.2.5 have the same effect with VGA videos?
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I know this is an old thread but...
I use videora i-phone 3g converter.
Set it to use the H.264 480x320 768kbps stereo/128kpbs Advanced profile.
It spits out excellent quality with no frame drop and its full screen.
Its recognised in wmp and touchflow video tab.
best of all its free
my favourite is slysoft clonedvdmobile + coreplayer. i encode in ipod v5 high res 640x480 (about 640x360 for qidescreen) with quality about 18. 1012kbps, 2 pass. makes about 700mb for 1hr 15mins
Good morning!
I'm using tcmp (the core pocket media player) on my diamond and for the conversion I use PocketDivxEncoder. It's fast easy to use and very flexible with the settings such as dimensions sound and video quality ...
Links:
TCPMP with built in flv support
PocketDivxEncoder
I tried many conversion programs and codecs and I've come to the conclusion that smooth vga(640x480)-video-playback isn't possible on the diamond. Reducing the resolution to 480x360 however brings suitable results with virtually no dropped frames when playing in TCPMP or Coreplayer. The resulting filesize is also very convenient (about 300mb per hour, 200mb for animes).
The best conversion program I tried so far is SUPER, which additionally is Freeware
here is a download link: http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html#Dnload
I created two profiles for SUPER (one for 4:3 videos and one for 16:9) which can be easily loaded via right click anywhere in the main window "Import ..."
ps: I also liked the videora i-phone 3g converter suggested by GutsyTripod, but the playback performence of the mpg4 video seems to bee slightly slower (about 10-15%) than the xvid video produced with SUPER

BEST video encoder for X1 ~Support HW Decode~

I tried many H264 ACC encoder, such as jetaudio and Format Factory. But all of it didn't have a native resolution and basic profile setting for X1
If you have a high demand on video playback.
You could try the GOM encoder. it support the RMVB to H264 + ACC, and it can limit the basicline profile 1.3 and native resolution for X1 WVGA (800x480).
I encoded many video by GOM encoder, the quality is very COOL ~~~~ I am highly recommend of it
http://www.gomlab.com/eng/GMP_download.html
On beside, the GOM player still is beta version and the internet connection is require while running the encoder.
***The beta encoder it will encode a GOM encoder logo on the top right hand corner around 10sec ***
*** Please make sure tick the "limit basicline [email protected]" checkbox and force the output file resolution to 800x450 (16:9), otherwise the video playback on X1 will very unstable***
Dude use MEGUI. It's can encode just about anything and in any resolution. Been using it to convert my blurays to smaller files to stay on my computer for streaming.
you can try SUPER as well...
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you can try SUPER as well...
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I got a error message while running Super on my Windows Vista, didn't know why so many video encoder have problem on Vista
http://www.effectmatrix.com/total-video-converter/index.htm
Total Video Converter 3.14
very easy mp4 h264
this encoder is excellent highly recommended it makes ur 800x400 screen to a mini hd-tv
simdao said:
I tried many H264 ACC encoder, such as jetaudio and Format Factory. But all of it didn't have a native resolution and basic profile setting for X1
If you have a high demand on video playback.
You could try the GOM encoder. it support the RMVB to H264 + ACC, and it can limit the basicline profile 1.3 and native resolution for X1 WVGA (800x480).
I encoded many video by GOM encoder, the quality is very COOL ~~~~ I am highly recommend of it
http://www.gomlab.com/eng/GMP_download.html
On beside, the GOM player still is beta version and the internet connection is require while running the encoder.
***The beta encoder it will encode a GOM encoder logo on the top right hand corner around 10sec ***
*** Please make sure tick the "limit basicline [email protected]" checkbox and force the output file resolution to 800x450 (16:9), otherwise the video playback on X1 will very unstable***
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How did you manage to get yourself a full version of GOM encoder because I can't find a way to buy the software.
What is the video bitrate you guys are using? Also anyone converting to xvid instead of mp4? What is the best setting for xvid?
SPB DVD????
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s.u.p.e.r is a very good programm.
but nvidia kaboom and tcmpg 4.0 xpress can transcode on geforce hardware (8xxx+9xxx+02x0).
on my gtx280 i can transcode with 250 fps (kaboom). really nice!
anyone care to write a tutor for the best encoding video for the x1? I've tried so many different programs and the video playback is sluggish. I use core video player btw
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anyone care to write a tutor for the best encoding video for the x1? I've tried so many different programs and the video playback is sluggish. I use core video player btw
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CorePlayer doesn't take advantage of the hardware acceleration atm so it won't play H.264 videos that well. The best I can get CorePlayer to play is about 1000kbps divx with any resolution. Obviously the video looks worse as you raise the resolution but keep the 1000kbps data rate.
I mainly use the video player in the SE multimedia panel, which does use the hardware acceleration and can play H.264 videos at 800x440 at 1000kbps very well and looks better than the equivalent divx.
As for programs... for encoding divx to avi for Coreplayer, I just use virtualdub. For encoding H.264 you can use a number of apps, but a free one that's ok and was mentioned on these forums is http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/
Basically just create a new profile for the X1 using 800x440 or whatever resolution you want, and set it to about 1024 kbps using H.264.
dinan said:
CorePlayer doesn't take advantage of the hardware acceleration atm so it won't play H.264 videos that well. The best I can get CorePlayer to play is about 1000kbps divx with any resolution. Obviously the video looks worse as you raise the resolution but keep the 1000kbps data rate.
I mainly use the video player in the SE multimedia panel, which does use the hardware acceleration and can play H.264 videos at 800x440 at 1000kbps very well and looks better than the equivalent divx.
As for programs... for encoding divx to avi for Coreplayer, I just use virtualdub. For encoding H.264 you can use a number of apps, but a free one that's ok and was mentioned on these forums is http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/
Basically just create a new profile for the X1 using 800x440 or whatever resolution you want, and set it to about 1024 kbps using H.264.
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Thanks I will try what u suggested. I'm using cucusoft dvd converter btw
Edit: I tried with cucusoft converter, this is my profile. Video bitrate 725 kbits/s, H.264/AVC codec. Resolution 800x450. Audio codec acc 96kbits/s. I played with the default SE player, video kinda choppy and sluggish. I dont know what I'm doing wrong
Any updates on this?
i have made a full script for auto converting a full directory of videos:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453684
if someone interested...
Some news on the GOM Encoder
With the newest version, there is a option update on "limit basicline [email protected]" . Now you can set it to 1.3 or 3.0.
I've tried 3.0 and it is working fine.
I don't know what's the effect for changing to 3.0. I just assume new stuff and bigger number are better.
Honestly, has anyone figured out what the best settings for Video/Audio encoding are for SE player? Does it have hardware acceleration?
I havent, video still laggy as hell, i use both windows media player and SE media player panel.
Just tried Videora free converter yesterday and today, and works great at 320x240 MPEG (did first one at two passes but you get a 1gb file instead of 500Mb and it really looks the same on the phone screen). And really not laggy at all....I'm not going to say you don't get an occasional jaggy but not very many. Biggest problem is the 1hr+ encoding time per movie
total video converter is best
works grt on xperia
and very fast too
other thn other programms

Coreplayer

I'd like to know if Coreplayer will produce noticeably better video playback than the Windows Media Player or HTC Album Player that are already built in to the phone.
I don't care about other features or the number of different formats supported. If I take a simple .mp4 and play that same file with all three players, will CorePlayer have a faster frame rate or any other noticeable improvement?
Thanks for any info.
Coreplayer in my opinion is a great piece of software that you will really enjoy. It is a must for PPC!!
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will CorePlayer have a faster frame rate or any other noticeable improvement?
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Coreplayer will be a lot slower than the built in apps, as it is unable to make use of GPU acceleration. People like it because it allows playback of a wider range of codecs and file types. The best video peformance is got by transcoding to .mp4 format and playing with HTCAlbum.
I used core player a lot over the past 2 months. It does have acceleration for mpeg4. I used Handbrake to encode up to 1500kbps and 672x378 Resolution. You can go higher in resolution, but you than cannot multitask without stutter. If I try to do the same with h.264, I am lucky to get up to 480x272 at 100% video playback.
Coreplayer cannot handle 800X480 mp4 videos without stuttering really badly. I am re-encoding some of the videos to 624 X 352 to see if it's more compatible with Coreplayer.
One issue I have with WMP and HTC Album is that they play 2.35 AR movies with the sides cropped and no black bars. I don't know if there's something I need to do when I encode or if that's an issue with the player. I cannot find any options to change this.
Coreplayer will display these movies correctly, but again, the stuttering makes it unwatchable. I am hoping the lower resolution will rectify the problem.
I really can't see any big difference between 624 X 352 xvid files and 800 X 480 mp4 files WRT sharpness and clarity. I don't think screen is big enough to make the distinction between the two resolutions noticeable.
Anything below 700w pixels it will run fine on Coreplayer.
Try out handbrake. It is free. Use FFmepg Mpeg4 files. You can use whatever bitrate you want but I wouldn't go past 1500kbps.
is coreplayer available for free or do i have to pay?
I have a question... I have core player for my device, and I've downloaded hand brake. Im wanting to make mp4's from my dvd collection. what do I need to do, and does handbrake contain everything I need to do this?
nvgear said:
is coreplayer available for free or do i have to pay?
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Core player is a pay application that is about 30 USD. It doesn't do mp4 videos as well as the built in apps as they use hardware acceleration. What core player does better is play other formats such as divx. I get 23 frames per second in high quality out of my 640x480 divx videos.
Although there is a Rhodium ROM on this site that does include it by default.
stupid question
sancmat said:
Core player is a pay application that is about 30 USD. It doesn't do mp4 videos as well as the built in apps as they use hardware acceleration. What core player does better is play other formats such as divx. I get 23 frames per second in high quality out of my 640x480 divx videos.
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I've got Coreplayer and it does well with divx, as you say. I just tried some MP4 videos and indeed they didn't play well. How can I get the built in player (not WM Player) to play something? I've removed all file associations from Coreplayer, which allows me to play an MP4 by clicking on it in File Explorer or Pictures and Videos, but is there a way to get the built in player to play an AVI file?
pistou said:
I've got Coreplayer and it does well with divx, as you say. I just tried some MP4 videos and indeed they didn't play well. How can I get the built in player (not WM Player) to play something? I've removed all file associations from Coreplayer, which allows me to play an MP4 by clicking on it in File Explorer or Pictures and Videos, but is there a way to get the built in player to play an AVI file?
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The stock player will only handle mp4, you just select your videos through the album and you're golden. I have a HD movie that plays with no stutter and DVD quality
chrisrj28 said:
The stock player will only handle mp4, you just select your videos through the album and you're golden. I have a HD movie that plays with no stutter and DVD quality
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FAB, thanks: now I know.
side note (purely conversational) -- I created a test MP4 with HandBrake, but there was no picture on the device, only sound (it plays fine in QuickTime on the desktop) -- back to fiddling with settings!
I use coreplayer since most of my movies are AVI(xvid). I haven't had a glaring problems with coreplayer other then the flickering blue screen when using TV-OUT. I really hate to trans-code videos.
If I really had to use TV-OUT for a video presentation, I found these setting removed 99.9% of the flickering. See link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4761775#post4761775
***edit: I have been using other ROMs and they run fine with the settings listed on the link.***
mda71 said:
I use coreplayer since most of my movies are AVI(xvid). I haven't had a glaring problems with coreplayer other then the flickering blue screen when using TV-OUT. I really hate to trans-code videos.
If I really had to use TV-OUT for a video presentation, I found these setting removed 99.9% of the flickering. See link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4761775#post4761775
***edit: I have been using other ROMs and they run fine with the settings listed on the link.***
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i have had the phone since day one and still havent got core player working right it just stutters along
all i want to is to be able to convert dvd into avi at setting that will display it as close to full screen as possible with audio and video in time
any suggestions would be great
Hanson68 said:
One issue I have with WMP and HTC Album is that they play 2.35 AR movies with the sides cropped and no black bars. I don't know if there's something I need to do when I encode or if that's an issue with the player. I cannot find any options to change this.
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I've not tried this with a video that is wider than 16:9, but certainly one that is narrower than the screen aspect ratio is played zoomed to full-screen by default, but this can be overridden quite easily. In HTCAlbum if you tap the screen you get a row of buttons appearing at the bottom, including pause and stop. The right-hand button controls zooming and stretching. By default a video is zoomed and cropped to fill the screen. Tap the right hand button once and it switches to stretching the video to full screen; tap it a second time and it switches to the correct aspect ratio (with black bars).
@combat goofwing
Are you using the old free CP or the new, $$ one? The free one stutters. The paid one works fine, set to Qtv. No transcoding, no stuttering. I just shoot my vids over and I'm gtg.
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@combat goofwing
Are you using the old free CP or the new, $$ one? The free one stutters. The paid one works fine, set to Qtv. No transcoding, no stuttering. I just shoot my vids over and I'm gtg.
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its paid for and set to qtv but some files still stutter along
Shasarak said:
In HTCAlbum if you tap the screen you get a row of buttons appearing at the bottom, including pause and stop. The right-hand button controls zooming and stretching. By default a video is zoomed and cropped to fill the screen. Tap the right hand button once and it switches to stretching the video to full screen; tap it a second time and it switches to the correct aspect ratio (with black bars).
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Wow. That was so simple. And here I was looking in the menus.
Thanks for the tip!
Accessing the built in HTC Album Player
Can anyone tell me how to access the HTC Album player? It just comes into action when I open a Video file, but can we access the program itself and adjust any settings etc.? One post says it only plays mp4. It plays my 3gp files too. Does it play any other formats?

Converted movie to 800x480 and it still crops edges

Ok so I converted Batman Begins straight from DVD to 800x480 resolution using Aimersoft Video Converter Ultimate. I Converted it to an mp4 as xvid as the encoder. I've also tried H.264 as the encoder as well. I have tried everything to get the video to expand to the edges like the transformers movies did. I had kumar's lite rom but then switched to NRG's rom and its still doing it. I messed with the settings in the TCPMP player to see if I could force it to expand but it keeps staying cropped. I've included a sample pic to show you guys. Any help would be awesome!
*edit* after looking at the viewable size of the movie in the pic vs my screen size I would have to say its about the same size. But when you look at my screen as its playing the movie, it doesn't look that wide at all.
855-480 res with 16:9 aspect ratio?
ok sweet I think I figured it out. Another question. Looking at the size of the transformers movies (around 1.2gb each) and looking at the quality of the video, how could I make my rips the same quality but retain the same size of video?
.mp4 high quality codec try that setting
how did you figure out to get around the cropping?
I use core player and play movies. wmplayer does not do it for me. I use to convert movies for my omnia but you can adjust the aspect ratio on the fly. I usually do 16:9 but on the hd2 I have been choosing "fit to screen" and there is no cropping.

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