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a few questions about the phone software and in general

Ok, I just picked up a cingular 8525 today and had a few questions I wanted to ask you guys.
First, I was told there is a program out there that closes down the programs when you click the x instead of minimizing it. Where can I find this program?
Second, is there an AIM client for this phone that I can get somewhere? Is it free? Please post any links for that.
Third, do any of you have any second thoughts about putting the phone directly in your pocket with nothing else in there? I am wondering how safe it is for this phone to be in just a pocket. I was looking at perhaps one of those hard metal cases for it, but as a student and person I like my phone in my pocket. What solutions can you folks offer?
Thanks a lot

SuperMoose said:
Ok, I just picked up a cingular 8525 today and had a few questions I wanted to ask you guys.
First, I was told there is a program out there that closes down the programs when you click the x instead of minimizing it. Where can I find this program?
Second, is there an AIM client for this phone that I can get somewhere? Is it free? Please post any links for that.
Third, do any of you have any second thoughts about putting the phone directly in your pocket with nothing else in there? I am wondering how safe it is for this phone to be in just a pocket. I was looking at perhaps one of those hard metal cases for it, but as a student and person I like my phone in my pocket. What solutions can you folks offer?
Thanks a lot
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You can close properly using (and there's loads more out there):
Magic Button (also shows running apps. on task bar)
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
or HTC's X button on this sites wiki (presumably thoroughly compatible as it's made by HTC)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
an AIM example Agile Messanger (seems to be a question whether it's free or not)
http://www.agilemobile.com/downloads.html
or MSN there is a thread on this in this forum
Also check this forna few other ideas:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1054903&highlight=mikechannon#post1054903
as well as apps by sleuth255 and vijay555 who have developed quite a few goodies.
As to keeping in pocket, I wouldn't for fear of developing the Screen Alignment problem. I use leather pouch mine came with.
Mike

thanks for the fast response, one thing i forgot to ask, is there a website anywhere where i can get games for it? thanks

SuperMoose said:
thanks for the fast response, one thing i forgot to ask, is there a website anywhere where i can get games for it? thanks
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Here's a few mostly freeware. Lots of rubbish in these but some maybe worth it. Better ones, say doom etc just lookup with WM5 (or windows CE) added into a search on Google.
http://www.pdagold.com/software/list.asp?p=1
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/tags.php?tag=clocks&order=date&page=2
http://www.getjar.com/software/universal/all/Applications/Email/set2
Mike

last question for today i hope, how do i change ringtones to something custom? I transferred the mp3 i want to the phone, where do i put it in order to get it to show up in the directory to select ringtones?
thanks again, you have been most helpful and it is appreciated

SuperMoose said:
last question for today i hope, how do i change ringtones to something custom? I transferred the mp3 i want to the phone, where do i put it in order to get it to show up in the directory to select ringtones?
thanks again, you have been most helpful and it is appreciated
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if you tick and hold on the file it will bring up your options like copy/paste, etc.. it will also give you the option to set as ringtone

mikechannon said:
You can close properly using (and there's loads more out there):
Magic Button (also shows running apps. on task bar)
http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx
or HTC's X button on this sites wiki (presumably thoroughly compatible as it's made by HTC)
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils
an AIM example Agile Messanger (seems to be a question whether it's free or not)
http://www.agilemobile.com/downloads.html
or MSN there is a thread on this in this forum
Also check this forna few other ideas:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1054903&highlight=mikechannon#post1054903
as well as apps by sleuth255 and vijay555 who have developed quite a few goodies.
As to keeping in pocket, I wouldn't for fear of developing the Screen Alignment problem. I use leather pouch mine came with.
Mike
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Keep my new Cingular 8525 in my pocket with my Monaco Aluminum Case from Dealone. No problems, all buttons accessible and if keyboard is needed, simply pop open cover and slide top forward. Black in color. I really like the protection and peace of mind this case gives.

balld said:
Keep my new Cingular 8525 in my pocket with my Monaco Aluminum Case from Dealone. No problems, all buttons accessible and if keyboard is needed, simply pop open cover and slide top forward. Black in color. I really like the protection and peace of mind this case gives.
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That sounds like a good solution to me.
Mike

SuperMoose said:
I transferred the mp3 i want to the phone, where do i put it in order to get it to show up in the directory to select ringtones?
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If you put the MP3 file in \Windows\Rings it will show in your list of available ringtones.

Philip said:
If you put the MP3 file in \Windows\Rings it will show in your list of available ringtones.
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This is right of course, as is shogunmarks solution of :"if you tick and hold on the file it will bring up your options like copy/paste, etc.. it will also give you the option to set as ringtone"
Either way I prefer to keep my ringtone in device memory rather than storage card. The reason for this is that I, along with some others have discovered that storing on SD card can cause freezing when phone rings or a lengthy delay before phone begins to ring. Some others have also reported that mp3s, particularly larger file sized ones can also cause delays. On this matter I tend to stick to basic short file sized Windows Audio fornatted tones just to ensure as rapid a response from the phone as possible when calls come in. (Not very adventurous I know, but still...)
Mike

Any body knws where i can get visual studio for my m3100

luke1708 said:
Any body knws where i can get visual studio for my m3100
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http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/default.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700832.aspx
Mike

Thanks mate!

mikechannon said:
This is right of course, as is shogunmarks solution of :"if you tick and hold on the file it will bring up your options like copy/paste, etc.. it will also give you the option to set as ringtone"
Either way I prefer to keep my ringtone in device memory rather than storage card. The reason for this is that I, along with some others have discovered that storing on SD card can cause freezing when phone rings or a lengthy delay before phone begins to ring. Some others have also reported that mp3s, particularly larger file sized ones can also cause delays. On this matter I tend to stick to basic short file sized Windows Audio fornatted tones just to ensure as rapid a response from the phone as possible when calls come in. (Not very adventurous I know, but still...)
Mike
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well when you tick and hold and choose set as ringtone it copies the file to that folder.. or at least it did on my 8125

shogunmark said:
well when you tick and hold and choose set as ringtone it copies the file to that folder.. or at least it did on my 8125
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I don't disagree with you. I could have been clearer in what I said. It is possible to put ring tones on storage card and assign them without obviously putting them in the rings folder or using your way of getting them there. All I meant to do was issue a cautionary note about lengthy ring tones in non windows audio format being stored on SD card - this warning Does NOT apply to your method of assigning the ringtone.
Hope this clarifies - mind you reading it I'm not so sure!
Mike

when looking for a wifi network is there some sort of browser to use so you can choose which one? also how do you clean the screen on the phone? rubbing alcohol and a water mix?

SuperMoose said:
when looking for a wifi network is there some sort of browser to use so you can choose which one? also how do you clean the screen on the phone? rubbing alcohol and a water mix?
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Good app. to connect to and see available wifi networks
http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
Wifi on radar type screen or list view (good to look at but doesn't really help to connect) If you are GPS enabled it shows remarkable true radar type image of networks around. With no GPS you still get radar but really only illusion of radar as it tells distance only not direction. Looks good though.
http://www.clickapps.com/moreinfo.h...PC&PHPSESSID=dab6151724de5b0e1826422f04a6d521
As for cleaning screen I just use a tissue barely more than damp without any chemicals - seems to work ok.
Mike

Some Newbie Cingular 8525 Questions

i just got my 8525 thanks to this site using the tutorials and guides and i just finished reading all the Wikis....but i'm still have a few questions...that i need help with:
DO SDA APPS WORK ON THE 8525?
What Is the Best the Best Free Weather App for the 8525
What free program can customize my Today like some of the ones here: http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=873352??
What Are The Proper Settings For Me to Start Browsing the Web on PIE, I have The T-mobile Total Internet Plan with Hotspots?
Whats The Best Free AIM Program That Uses Data?
Is There A Free App that Can Make my 8525 into a Webcam?
Is There anyway to Make Music play while i use the Camera like on the SDA?....or at least make it Resume automatically after i finish using the Camera?
How Do I Enable A2DP and How is The Sound Quality?
I Set The PTT as a Path to the Picture and Videos file, and i set my camera to save straight to MicroSD Card....my question is how can i make it so that when i Press the PTT Buton instead of going to the pics and videos that are saved to the Device it goes straight to the Pics and Vids Folder saved on the MicroSD Card?
Thanx in Advance!!!!

Can anyone help?

please search.
i just got my first winmo phone today.
8525 running bb connect on tmobile. searching is amazing

mr rolleyes said:
please search.
i just got my first winmo phone today.
8525 running bb connect on tmobile. searching is amazing
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there was absolutely no point of you telling me that..smh
Can anyone really Help?

didn't feel like starting a new thread, as this one is titled appropriately for my question.
I just got a 8525 a few days ago in my switch to Cingular. I got the 5mb Media 1000 package, however I am getting unlimited for first month.
My question is.. . I installed Weatherpanel on my phone and wondering if data that is being received to update this program is coming from with-in my 5mb, or I am going to get a bill for other data usage?

AWEE said:
there was absolutely no point of you telling me that..smh
Can anyone really Help?
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if you do a search between here and howardforums.com you will find all your answer easily.

a few questions about WM6 needing asking

Hi all, i recently flashed my spv M3100 to wm6 (now on t-mobile uk) instead of orange and it's still showing the orange disply on bootup i've googled on how to remove that and have the default htc showing but banging my head on the keyboard, as i've changed the shell for the phone and that's the only thing what's left to get removed
1) in wm6 how do you get the click when you touch the start menu like it used to make in wm5?
2) under wm5 in messenger when i used to get a message or somebody used to come online it used to pop up a box like the sms does, but in wm6 all it does it pop up the little msn man at the top of the screen and vibrate the phone is there a way to get the box pop up (if i havent got the today screen open i miss what somebody says or havent a clue who's just logged in)
3) how do i do video calling in wm6 as there used to be a video call button above call but in the dialer in wm6 it aint there
4) is there anyway of stopping the phone going into lock mode when you connect it to the pc as active-sync 4.5 keeps telling me the phone is locked,when i unlock it by entering my passcode it reboots active sync then the phones locked again :-(
beisdes them questions wm6 is lovely
spl 2.10
radio 1.41
wm6
supercid unlocked

Hi, there are answers to all your questions already posted in the site. On the brown bar at the top of the site is a search function. Give that a try and you should find everything you need.
Good luck!

Couple of answers
You could google using XDA in the search, for example "XDA change splash screen Hermes", I guarantee you'll find an answer to that one mate
Q # 1, Go to Settings, Phone, then select Short Tones from the Keypad drop down.
As for #3, go in to TweaksUI under settings, and you'll find a check box for Enable Video Call in the Phone tab.
And for #4 there ought to be a check box on your password screen in Active Sync to Remember password....??
Good luck,

Thx for the advice
removed the op logo proper, and got the video calling back but still cant get the click just on the start menu, but i can live with it like that, now to fill this 4gig mem card now also when i inserted the phone into the usb a couple of time's active sync comes up with do you want to unlock the phone when it's insterted to the pc (or something like that) so i clicked on yes and it's ok now, on wm5 it used to ask for a password on the pc, but in wm6 it locks the phone device :-( just had to get used to that

Found 'em - menu click sounds!!!
Knew I'd seen them somewhere - they're >HERE<!!!!
If you download and install the WM5 CAB file, that'll give you the clicks (which seem to annoy most people ) when you tap on stuff in WM6
Enjoy!
Mark.

Thx Mark for the link, got me phone working 100% now, if your ever in Manchester, I'll buy you a pint for that m8, been looking for this for omg from when i upgraded to wm6, thx bud

So the dual is a good choice?

I've been reading thru the posts on the touch dual and see a pretty overwhelming response in the positive range regarding the device. It's been out for a bit so it is getting a track record. I've decided to order the 20 key qwerty. Was getting a little buyers remorse and was wondering if there were any consistant ongoing issues that perhaps I missed. I would appreciate all comments. Thanks. Hope I'm not making a mistake. I currently have the cruise so I'm used to the touch flo. I think I'm going to like the qwerty slider.

hi there cbreze,
After speaking to a few members on here, who have been extremely helpful, i think the phone sounds really good. Read Here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379178
But after reading about a few issues, i'm beginning to get paranoid if i made the right choice. On this thread, there is a mention of people having problems locking and unlocking the phone when answering calls:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353569
Personally, all i want is a phone which when in closed position is locked and i shouldn't be able to use the Touchscreen or any other button, but when i slide it open, that should be the time when i should be able to answer calls or press buttons to dial out.
Also there is the mention of constantly doing soft resets etc. I hope this isn't a regular issue

newbiefone said:
Personally, all i want is a phone which when in closed position is locked and i shouldn't be able to use the Touchscreen or any other button, but when i slide it open, that should be the time when i should be able to answer calls or press buttons to dial out.
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when you get your touch, you might be interested in this neat little app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359212

thanks ducamie for the link and also for PM'ing me earlier. I'm waiting for delivery today and hope that the phone arrives quickly.
For those who are total noobs, like myself to WM6, what is the best way of learning to install these apps? FYI, i am very computer literate, but dread to mess with mobile phones. I assume WM6 is like Windows XP in file structures, extensions and to install is also a similar method?

if you understand about computers, ppc should be a walk in the park for you!!
it's pretty simple to install anything:
download the .cab file (.cab is for your ppc as .exe is for your pc)
copy the .cab file to your ppc
open the .cab file with your ppc
it installs automatically (you just need to choose the location)
done!
just like a normal computer

I got mine for about 2 weeks now. Overall device is good, only disappointment for me is that XT9 cannot be disabled, it is default input method and you have to manually change all the time. Also when you want to use hardware keyboard for typing sms, it only types numbers When i was ordering this device, i was planning to use hardware keypad for typing stuff, but it is just not usable.
I installed Opera Mobile, similarly, if you want to type URL in address bar using hardware keypad, only numbers can be typed. Not sure if there is a fix somewhere on this forum, i could not find one so far.

creaking
first of all, i love my device!
but quite a long time the cap @ the backside of the device is creaking when i use the touchscreen or the keypad. does anyone have this problem too? what can i do against that? put'em into the freezer

Yep, they all do that (the creaking, that is!). Mine does it as well. It's because there are no strengthening bars in the battery cover, meaning that it flexes when pressed. Nothing to worry about. I actually dropped mine yesterday (I was on a call) and it didn't even drop the connection. The battery cover flew off but, otherwise, the phone was fine. No marks at all. I do have a screen protector on as well, which ultimately saved me a massive headache!

Would a simple bus. card on top of the battery or a section of tape wrapped around the battery help any. I've never had a device yet I couldn`t fix a batt. door creak by using some simple mod. I hate that creaking noise thing!

jvieira said:
if you understand about computers, ppc should be a walk in the park for you!!
it's pretty simple to install anything:
download the .cab file (.cab is for your ppc as .exe is for your pc)
copy the .cab file to your ppc
open the .cab file with your ppc
it installs automatically (you just need to choose the location)
done!
just like a normal computer
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Well thats very interesting, thanks for that helpful explanation. Without mentioning too much detail (shhh ) Can i get tomtom to fit on a 1gb microsd card supplied by orange or will i need to buy another card? Also how hard is it to install tomtom on the ppc? Do i simply run a .cab file?

Touch H.D. - A review from a W.M. Virgin

I was due an upgrade from Orange, after having used a n95 for the last year or so, which was a device I liked. Works straight out of the box as a phone, with the features you would expect a modern phone to have aready implemented in a user friendly manner. Also has the capability to be updated and personailse as you see fit - mine had orange o.s. ripped out within a day of arriving.
Knowing an upgrade was due I spent an afternoon on the net wondering what to go for. Seriously consider decamping to O2 for an iphone, mainly because of the data tariffs there, but had my eye turned by this new Touch H.D. gizmo. Now partly because a few of my mates already have iphones, and partly because I enjoy being contrary, and also because I hate the way "Apple" are trendy and Microsoft hated, the H.D. it was.
Haggled away with Orange and managed to get 1200mins, 500 texts, 0.5gig data for 45 quid month. So in went my order.
The HD arrived the next day. I excitedly opened the very sexy packaging (I have a very sad affection for gadget boxes and keep them for years - even after the device has packed up!), had a quick read of the quick start, plugged her in and off I went.
Nice looking skin,quick to where you want to go. Seems good.
But then things got sticky. I wanted to find out how to bluetooth contacts over to the H.D. Nothing in the quickstart nor the pdf. I know, I know, I could of stuck me old sim in and copied the contacts over, but this is a new toy and we like to play, right? After a couple of hours got an answer over the interweb about how to do this. Phew. Then did the sensible thing of copying these contacts to the sim for safety. Uh oh - the dreaded duplicate contact showing problem.
Then I decided to try the browser. As per another post I could not connect to wifi for an age, then it suddenly started working. Furthermore, I was getting a constant "xml parsing error" when trying to connect via Orange Internet. Had had the phone six hours now, and had only managed to get duplicate contacts on! Arrggghh, fustration of the nation.
Sent a text to a mate, only had I? No sending confirmation. What is going on? Oh, all messages--->sent. Mmm, hardly immediately user friendly.
I was getting tired, so set the alarm. How primitive thought I. More primitive than I realised when I was awoken and finally worked out that three button presses were required to get the alarm into snooze mode. Three! And only then if you had randomly pressed the alarm icon in the top bar in the hope it would do something - couldn't see this advice in any instructions anyway.
So by my second day was getting very dubious about this hardware, even allowing for the mandatory new device learning curve. Happily I stumbled across this place. Installed all the recommended softwares.
Klaxon - hey, my alarm now works like all the other alarms on all other phones.
Adavance Config - hey now I get an sms sent confirmation, and my phone is faster.
Backup -copied my contacts from the storage card, after running this programme, to my pc, deleted the sim contacts and hey presto! No more duplicate sims, and a safe back up.
I then played around with the advanced connection setting and the connection wizard and bang - my browser now works!!!
Suddenly I start to like this phone. Nay love it. It appeals to the very big geek inside of me. Its hard to use, you have to batter away at it to make it user friendly. It's more like a p.c. than a phone - ding dong! It is more like a p.c. than a phone.
And here in lies a problem I believe for the majority of users who will gets this phone and will be flummoxed by it and bin it back to Orange.
It needs to be set up as a phone first if Orange are flogging it as a phone, and not a p.d.a. as they do Blackberry. Little things, like a decent alarm clock, sms confirmation, instructions for contacts, turn off sim contacts option. A much better wlan interface - akin to the N95 would help. On that device selecting the browser gives you a pop up which gives you the option of orange internet, or if one is available a wlan. A simple click on the wlan you want and you're in. All very easy, and in contrast to having to open up communication, wireless lan, wlan, advanced, to swap to a different wlan.
None of these things would take too much effort to implement, and would make the Touch HD excellent for a beginner out of the box.
Your average user though will find these irritatations unforgiveable in some circumstances, and if the rumours of high returns to Orange are right, I bet the above bug bears have a large part to play in this.
However, once the phone is personalised, and once it is accepted as a computer, then I think it is fantastic. It's gorgeous to look at and hold, there's lots of nice little features- cover flow in favourite contacts is good eye candy for example.
And now I realise Ive got another piece of Redmond in my pocket, I'm even happier. This phone is a geeks dream - the "chic of tweak" perhaps? After four days with it I love it. I'm going to love it even more in months to come when some clever peeps get Android running on it, or when WM6.5/7 comes out.
A fantastic computer that does phone calls, as well. But out of the box, not a fantastic phone.
Just my 2p's worth.

Interesting to read your experience. I'll keep some of those things in mind when I get my phone next week. Do you have links to the software you added from here? (like Klaxon, Advanced Config, Backup...) I know I can search the forum, but I thought maybe you had them handy to post.

Chris Cross said:
Interesting to read your experience. I'll keep some of those things in mind when I get my phone next week. Do you have links to the software you added from here? (like Klaxon, Advanced Config, Backup...) I know I can search the forum, but I thought maybe you had them handy to post.
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Anything for our German friends ( 2-1 ;-) ) :
Klaxon:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Klaxon
Advance Config:
http://julien.schapman.free.fr/touchxperience/advanced-configuration-tool.php
Backup:
http://www.dotfred.net/
Gyrator:
http://gyrator.brins0.net/
Remember also when you get your phone to add "file manager" to your list of programmes. The software is already on the phone, and you need it to navigate to your storage card to run new programmes.
Enjoy!

mooro1973 said:
Anything for our German friends ( 2-1 ;-) )
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2-1 LOL
Thanks!

excellent review that provides a good insight for winmo newbies, and I sure recognize my first experience in this, winmo is an acquiered taste and it gets addictive with time because yes, this phone really is an ultraportable PC with a phone slapped onto it. I'm gonna send this to some people I know still sitting on the fence