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I found some interesting crap on GPRS connection alive keeping in other places. What's the deal? Anybody have any ideas?
Having the T-Mobile unlimited ****ty GPRS, I really would like to keep it on. Of course that's conveniently not a feature part of the ROM. Rumor has it though that it is available on AT&T. Thoughts, suggestions, kitchen updates?
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32676
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...TG%24MDHA.1260%40TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl&rnum=11
The T-Mobile WM2003 updates spoken about in this forum include the Always-On GPRS if you are willing to run beta software. I updated my US T-Mobile PPC with v4.00.10 with the new radio stack and it works great.
There is also a 4.00.16 ROM around, And I've read good things about it, but at this rate I'm not going to reinstall all of my apps until T-Mobile releases their final WM2003 update publically.
-Scott
I forgot to mention the one difference between WM2003 and the old AT&T ROM in respect to GPRS. There is no control panel applet to turn off Always-On GPRS, you have to actually turn off the phone to disconnect GPRS. It's not really a problem since phone calls will automatically temporarily disable GPRS and then re-enable it once the voice call is over.
Otherwise, the WM2003 implementation of GPRS is one of the better features of the ROM upgrade. The only other feature that I like more are the new SMS features:
- New buttons when you receive an SMS msg (Reply, Call, Delete, Close)
- SMS msgs will display the sender's name if it is in your contacts list
- Character counter in Inbox when typing SMS msgs
- Message Sent indicator from Inbox (previously only in PhoneBook)
- Quickfill of TO, CC, and BCC fields from contacts list (just start typing a name)
If you are a heavy GPRS and/or SMS user, and feel you are saavy enough to do the upgrade (or live with the consequences if it fails), then I would do it. I'm glad that I did. You can even make a custom T-Mobile WM2003 ROM from Jeff's ROM Kitchen (link found elsewhere in this forum).
Good Luck,
Scott
To turn off GPRS in WM 2003, hold down the red (hang up) phone button for a couple seconds...
I have 4.0016 but GPRS turns off
Whenver the phone goes to standby GPRS turns off. And yes, I do have all the latest greatest installed from the kitchen. Couldn't find any sort of settings to change it.
Completely flashed the ROM, used 4.00.16 T-Mobile ROM from Jeff's kitchen.
Thanks for all the feedback, now if I can just get this working!
I'm not sure if the ROM image is enough to enable Always-On GPRS, you may need to upgrade to one of the newer radio stacks too. When I upgraded my PPC to WM2003, I did the official T-Mobile 4.00.10 beta, which had the 6.24.00 radio stack.
A new radio stack, either the AT&T or the new TMo 6.24, is necessary for always-on GPRS. I have tried both stacks on the US TMo system and prefer the new TMo 6.24. GPRS will disconnect when the radio loses its connection with the cellular system, or when the device is placed on the cradle. It will reconnect automatically when removed from the cradle, or when the Inbox application attempts a timed check for new messages.
The older radio stacks do not support always-on connections.
David
Sometimes, when connected using the socket SDIO card, the XDA2 freezes, turning off causes the power to fade, then it will not turn on again unless i do a hard reset? Any ideas? I have the latest UK rom update.
What driver?
Hello mikeycollins13
Have you got the latest drivers? I bought my socket card a few days ago and got a driver version ending with a D whilst the one you can download ends with a C. I haven't had such bad freezes, but yes, it freezes sometimes for a short while.
Cheers
Johan
Yup
I downloaded the latest ones from their site. Still happening, returning the xda for repairs, don't know what else to do
Try this driver
This is the latest "D" driver that is not yet published on Sockets site.
Good luck
Johan
thanks
may hold off on sending it back now, did you ever here of this? And how do you look for Ap's? With Netstsumbler or Pocket Winc?
Netstumbler won't work
I can't use netstumber because it will only find the network I am connected to. I go to the connection settings, choose networkcards, and there is a list of detected networks. It updates itself often. I am often on a network with hidden SSID. The first time I have to manualy enter the network data (SSID, WEP) with the "add new settings..." option.
Regards
Johan
By the way...
I have one issue on it posted elsewhere and that is when I turn off my PDA the card seldom wakes again, but I only have to do a softreset, which is much less painfull than a hard reset. I can live with that.
Sent in for repair, back with apparent NEW o2 ROM, 1.66
This problem kept on happening and I sent back to o2 uk for repairs. They are returning it tome tomorrow, apparently a software issue, so they have reflashed my rom with a new ROM that is unaivalble on their site, ROM 1.66xxx (didn't get the rest) Don't know how to make a copy of it for you if you guys want one. Best,
rom 1.66, o2 uk
It has a new Clear type tuner, radio stack 10, that's all I found so far.
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It has a new Clear type tuner, radio stack 10, that's all I found so far.
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So it really is 1.66 - cool. I like the sound of the Cleartype tuner too.
So COME ON GUYS - HOW DOES HE MANAGE TO COPY THE ROM FROM OFF HIS PHONE SO HE CAN SHARE IT WITH US?
I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?
I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate
I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.
I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank
I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.
Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.
Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred
Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician
Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.
I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer
Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.
Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.
I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
bamse said:
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.
RobertDahlberg said:
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well
Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.
Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.
I've tried following the main upgrade thread and think I've found a lot of these, but wanted to hear from 8125 users who have upgraded on their experiences. Are there any gotchas? Is this a worthwhile upgrade? Is there anything that I should know before attempting the upgrade?
Thanks for all of your help.
-Pete Schott
Pete:
I upgraded a device, and immediately went back to the Cingular rom. The only thing worth using (in theory) was the push mail and the updated radio rom. The radio rom 2.07 worked great with the 8125, but push mail did not work even after tweaking. Also, WIFI did not work. I would advise to wait until April when CIngular says it is releasing the push mail update for the 8125.
Best,
DrBig74
CINGULAR ROM
How did you go back from the IMATE ROM to the original CINGULAR ROM?
Thank you
There are some people who have had problems with wifi, but I have not had any network I can't connect to thus far and Ihave been using 2.16.9.1 since the night it was found over a week ago. I have had no issues except when I installed some of Cingular's EXTRom cab files. I have not tried push mail, but everything is responsive and working.
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urologyhealth said:
How did you go back from the IMATE ROM to the original CINGULAR ROM?
Thank you
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Use the aWizard Tool.. I've switched Roms several times and even restored the splash screen.
Only thing I can't o is change the IPL/SPL.
SWITCHING BACK
Is it possible for you to outline detailed steps? I have the Cingular ROM and external ROM only from the XDA DEVELOPERS site, I did not back up my original ROM and I now have latest IMATE ROM
Thanks
I can't believe the difference in the ROMs. The cingular rom was dog slow. Even with all the registry hacks and processor boost. The Imate rom is MUCH faster and I haven't even pimped my ppc yet. I was ready to get rid of the cingular device until now. Push works, just follow the directions in the forum!
Re: Cingular 8125 - upgrade to latest KJAM ROM - issues/gotc
Hi,
I guess i have to share my experiance here. I bought Cingular 8125 a month ago and this is my first PPC phone. I liked the features a lot and was generally happy with my purchase.
One thing i hate about my phone and was driving me nuts was that i was not able to connect to WiFi easily, even if i was standing beside my rounter it usually take literaly 4-8 mins to connect to it and even after connect it keep on losing it. I was hating it so i started looking on internet to search a cure for my problem. Then i saw some sites with ROM upgrades for these phones. It seemed interesting to me so i started researching this. After a week or so i stumbeled upon this site and started reading all these threads about upgrading.
I was hesitent to actually go ahead and flash my device since i knew that these ROMs are not for my phone model. So i started with trying some tweaks which are scattered all over the place. I must admit they all help in improving my machine.
Well reading on and on for about 2 weeks i had enough information and courage to actually try the ROM flashing. By this time I know all the backup mathods listed here, so to make sure i have everything backed up i wanted to use all those mathods. For one of them i needed to have a miniSD card so i started research on it and finally ordered ATP ProMax 1GB miniSD Card, i seleted this because to my knowladge this is the fastest 1GB miniSD card available. Okay now i was ready for the ROM flashing. First i took the backup to SD card using wizBackup. Then i unlocked my phone using aWizard which also took the backup. Then i went ahead and installed the i-mate ROM.
Keeping all the research in mind i did not installed the Ext ROM and soft reset my phone as soon as the Select Carrier screen came up. After my machine came back on again, and i started using it and man i said WOW when it connected to WiFi is less than 5 seconds!!! It was very quick on connecting to it and seemed a lot faster while browsing. My whole experiance of using the phone was very pleasent. Also one more significant thing i noticed was my phone has better signal strength.
While i was playing with the new version for 2-3 days the Qtek version came out. Without spending even a minute i flashed to that rom and again i did not installed the Ext ROM and i soft reset my phone when the message came up that your phone will be customized in 3 sec.
Well now i have this ROM for about 2 weeks and i'm very happy with it. I think this is the best thing i have done to my phone. I have no lock ups, perfectly working WiFi and GPRS. Oh i forgot, i configured my GPRS manually after both flashing. I only ran the cab file from the orginal Cingular backup which changed the GPRS icon from G to E.
Well, anyone out there waiting to upgrade their phone, my advice is go ahead, you will love it!
Thanks,
Khawar
Just so people know, I'm using the stock Cingular 8125 ROM and have NEVER had a lock-up, have perfectly working WiFi and GPRS, battery life is great, the thing comes from soft-reset to ready to use in 45 seconds flat, everything works 110%.
I don't have push email but I also don't need push email.
You can definitely upgrade if you want but I just can't figure out why I would want to! :lol: 8)
Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic.
I felt the same way as mobilehavoc at first. The original Cingular ROM worked great, but I am the type of person who likes to have the latest and greatest. So I got the courage one afternoon and did the upgrade to the I-Mate ROM.
The I-Mate ROM has worked amazing to say the least on my 8125. Probably the biggest improvement for me is the interference with speakers is completely gone. With the cingular rom there would always be a buzz on my speakers at work and in the car when data was sent/received but with the new radio rom this is completely gone. Also the windows media player actually remembers the last song you were on. The battery life and speed of the device has probably doubled as well.
Its your decision to upgrade, but I am completely happy with upgrading my 8125. And as for mobilehavoc, if you think your 8125 is working great now wait till you upgrade.
kjason said:
Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic.
I felt the same way as mobilehavoc at first. The original Cingular ROM worked great, but I am the type of person who likes to have the latest and greatest. So I got the courage one afternoon and did the upgrade to the I-Mate ROM.
The I-Mate ROM has worked amazing to say the least on my 8125. Probably the biggest improvement for me is the interference with speakers is completely gone. With the cingular rom there would always be a buzz on my speakers at work and in the car when data was sent/received but with the new radio rom this is completely gone. Also the windows media player actually remembers the last song you were on. The battery life and speed of the device has probably doubled as well.
Its your decision to upgrade, but I am completely happy with upgrading my 8125. And as for mobilehavoc, if you think your 8125 is working great now wait till you upgrade.
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Good to hear. I'm a techno-geek as well so I love having the latest and greatest but I also don't want to mess with something that works perfectly.
I'm also lazy don't want to have to resync everything, reinstall everything, retweak, recustomize. I think my laziness is apparent everywhere - my desktop PC is running Windows XP which was originally installed 4 years ago and is running *knock on wood* perfectly...I know several people like to reload XP regularly.
Guess I'm just different.
YAY i may have to do this when i get mine tommorow hopefully fedex doesn't let me down from what i heard they have
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I have had my 8125 for a week - and have been nothing but impressed. The speed, call quality, functionality have all been great. Just upgraded the rom (I am never satisfied and am always *?^&ing around with things that work fine), and from what I have seen the past 2 hours, things only get better.
is there an app or something where i can just back up all my contacts and put them back on the phone after i flash with a different rom?
MMS working?
To anybody who has loaded a new ROM on a Cingular 8125, did you get MMS working with the new ROM? That (and the seemingly random occurence of Wifi not working for some) is the only thing stopping me upgrading mine when it arrives in the next week or so.
mick.
WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.
Sleuth255 said:
WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.
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Thanks - out of interest, which ROM build are you running?
I've got the production Qtek AKU2 rom installed:
ROM version 2.17.7.2 WWE
Radio version: 2.07.10
After installing, I simply let the builtin extended rom cabs run then installed the Edge Icon fix cab from the original Cingular ext rom. Qtek installs a minimum set of cabs including MMS support. The Edge enable cab from the Cingular ext rom can be found in the Qtek thread in the Wizard updating etc. forum. I posted it there as an attachment.
HTH
I have 8125 running Qtek's AKU2 ROM (2.17.7.2 WWE) that was just released. No problem at all so far. Everything works perfectly. Speed and reliability of the device have improved since then. I stored a lot of calendar items and contacts plus emails syncs. I do recommend the upgrade. Original Cingular ROM isn't fast enough with all the contents that I have.
Agreed. It's pretty much a must-do upgrade IMO. However...
I just wish I could find a way to set the default SIP to the block recognizer... The original reghack is no longer effective.
Then there's that damn battery icon..... :evil:
After finally being able to get my Internet working through PDA connect I decided it was time to test out my Tomtom Go 910 with the new Black. When I was running the original cingular rom that came with the phone I was able to connect to TomTom Traffic and weather services only. Now after the upgrade it recognizes my phone but says that wireless data is not available? Is this due to the proxy issue with cingular or is it just that TomTom does not support WM6 at all yet? Or something else? I'm trying to decide if it would be better to revert back to a WM5 system because I really do like Black 2.5. Hopefully it may be a quick fix.
TomTom910 issue
hi buddy,
I'm in the same boat with my Vario II.
Went to WM6 (LVSW) on the phone and all of a sudden TomTom tells me the DUN connection is invalid (Data over Bluetooth I believe).
*VERY ANNOYING* ....
Same Problem Here with tomtom one V4, tried 7 different WM5 & WM6 Roms and 4 different radio roms, still same problem.
Trying to find the original roms to reflash, rather go back to WM5 than waste the 40 euros i paid for the plus services.
Original ROM
I've got a post out there asking where to find them, will pm you if anyone gets back to me mate.
Yet another device that doesn't support the silly PAN profile. Stupid MS developers thought they were doing us a favor by removing DUN.
At least they came to their senses and said they'll work on getting dun implemented again soon...
Anyone else have any luck with this?
sadly no luck, my spv took an unfortunate trip down 2 flights of stairs and replaced by insurance.
tomtom works on my new one ok, aslong as i dont flash it.
Nope
...not yet, still waiting for M$ to add DUN support back in from what I understand.
May be rolling back to WM5