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Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion

I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?

I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate

I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.

I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank

I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.

Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.

Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred

Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician

Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.

I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer

Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.

Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.

I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...

bamse said:
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon

This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.

I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.

RobertDahlberg said:
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well

Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.

Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny

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Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.

Bluetooth disconnects and doesn't respond

Hi,
Just got my Magician (Orange SPV M500) and unlocked it so I can use my Vodafone sim (using the software from this site). My problem is that if I leave my phone on for a while, for no apperent reason the Bluetooth turns itself off (disconnects - the Bluetooth icon in the bottom right of the screen is crossed out). I try and re-connect by clicking the Bluetooth icon, but there is no response. I've tried going into Settings>Connections>Bluetooth but there is no response when I click on that icon either. To rectify I have to do a soft reset. Anyone had similar problems before and known how to fix? Hard resetting doesn't solve the problem
Cheers

Try a bluetooth patch. There is one available for instance on the Extended Rom backup of QtekS100_WWE_11.11.129. Just try it.

I'm a bit of a novice at all of this. Can you explain how to do this? Is it safe or could I permanently **** up my phone?

It is just a patch wich originally shipped with the official roms. You can download extended rom copies on the ftp of xda-developers in the magician folder. Take the QtekS100_WWE_1.11.129 and in the zipped folder will be a BT patch.

Cingular 8125 - upgrade to latest KJAM ROM - issues/gotchas?

I've tried following the main upgrade thread and think I've found a lot of these, but wanted to hear from 8125 users who have upgraded on their experiences. Are there any gotchas? Is this a worthwhile upgrade? Is there anything that I should know before attempting the upgrade?
Thanks for all of your help.
-Pete Schott

Pete:
I upgraded a device, and immediately went back to the Cingular rom. The only thing worth using (in theory) was the push mail and the updated radio rom. The radio rom 2.07 worked great with the 8125, but push mail did not work even after tweaking. Also, WIFI did not work. I would advise to wait until April when CIngular says it is releasing the push mail update for the 8125.
Best,
DrBig74

CINGULAR ROM
How did you go back from the IMATE ROM to the original CINGULAR ROM?
Thank you

There are some people who have had problems with wifi, but I have not had any network I can't connect to thus far and Ihave been using 2.16.9.1 since the night it was found over a week ago. I have had no issues except when I installed some of Cingular's EXTRom cab files. I have not tried push mail, but everything is responsive and working.

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urologyhealth said:
How did you go back from the IMATE ROM to the original CINGULAR ROM?
Thank you
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Use the aWizard Tool.. I've switched Roms several times and even restored the splash screen.
Only thing I can't o is change the IPL/SPL.

SWITCHING BACK
Is it possible for you to outline detailed steps? I have the Cingular ROM and external ROM only from the XDA DEVELOPERS site, I did not back up my original ROM and I now have latest IMATE ROM
Thanks

I can't believe the difference in the ROMs. The cingular rom was dog slow. Even with all the registry hacks and processor boost. The Imate rom is MUCH faster and I haven't even pimped my ppc yet. I was ready to get rid of the cingular device until now. Push works, just follow the directions in the forum!

Re: Cingular 8125 - upgrade to latest KJAM ROM - issues/gotc
Hi,
I guess i have to share my experiance here. I bought Cingular 8125 a month ago and this is my first PPC phone. I liked the features a lot and was generally happy with my purchase.
One thing i hate about my phone and was driving me nuts was that i was not able to connect to WiFi easily, even if i was standing beside my rounter it usually take literaly 4-8 mins to connect to it and even after connect it keep on losing it. I was hating it so i started looking on internet to search a cure for my problem. Then i saw some sites with ROM upgrades for these phones. It seemed interesting to me so i started researching this. After a week or so i stumbeled upon this site and started reading all these threads about upgrading.
I was hesitent to actually go ahead and flash my device since i knew that these ROMs are not for my phone model. So i started with trying some tweaks which are scattered all over the place. I must admit they all help in improving my machine.
Well reading on and on for about 2 weeks i had enough information and courage to actually try the ROM flashing. By this time I know all the backup mathods listed here, so to make sure i have everything backed up i wanted to use all those mathods. For one of them i needed to have a miniSD card so i started research on it and finally ordered ATP ProMax 1GB miniSD Card, i seleted this because to my knowladge this is the fastest 1GB miniSD card available. Okay now i was ready for the ROM flashing. First i took the backup to SD card using wizBackup. Then i unlocked my phone using aWizard which also took the backup. Then i went ahead and installed the i-mate ROM.
Keeping all the research in mind i did not installed the Ext ROM and soft reset my phone as soon as the Select Carrier screen came up. After my machine came back on again, and i started using it and man i said WOW when it connected to WiFi is less than 5 seconds!!! It was very quick on connecting to it and seemed a lot faster while browsing. My whole experiance of using the phone was very pleasent. Also one more significant thing i noticed was my phone has better signal strength.
While i was playing with the new version for 2-3 days the Qtek version came out. Without spending even a minute i flashed to that rom and again i did not installed the Ext ROM and i soft reset my phone when the message came up that your phone will be customized in 3 sec.
Well now i have this ROM for about 2 weeks and i'm very happy with it. I think this is the best thing i have done to my phone. I have no lock ups, perfectly working WiFi and GPRS. Oh i forgot, i configured my GPRS manually after both flashing. I only ran the cab file from the orginal Cingular backup which changed the GPRS icon from G to E.
Well, anyone out there waiting to upgrade their phone, my advice is go ahead, you will love it!
Thanks,
Khawar

Just so people know, I'm using the stock Cingular 8125 ROM and have NEVER had a lock-up, have perfectly working WiFi and GPRS, battery life is great, the thing comes from soft-reset to ready to use in 45 seconds flat, everything works 110%.
I don't have push email but I also don't need push email.
You can definitely upgrade if you want but I just can't figure out why I would want to! :lol: 8)

Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic.
I felt the same way as mobilehavoc at first. The original Cingular ROM worked great, but I am the type of person who likes to have the latest and greatest. So I got the courage one afternoon and did the upgrade to the I-Mate ROM.
The I-Mate ROM has worked amazing to say the least on my 8125. Probably the biggest improvement for me is the interference with speakers is completely gone. With the cingular rom there would always be a buzz on my speakers at work and in the car when data was sent/received but with the new radio rom this is completely gone. Also the windows media player actually remembers the last song you were on. The battery life and speed of the device has probably doubled as well.
Its your decision to upgrade, but I am completely happy with upgrading my 8125. And as for mobilehavoc, if you think your 8125 is working great now wait till you upgrade.

kjason said:
Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic.
I felt the same way as mobilehavoc at first. The original Cingular ROM worked great, but I am the type of person who likes to have the latest and greatest. So I got the courage one afternoon and did the upgrade to the I-Mate ROM.
The I-Mate ROM has worked amazing to say the least on my 8125. Probably the biggest improvement for me is the interference with speakers is completely gone. With the cingular rom there would always be a buzz on my speakers at work and in the car when data was sent/received but with the new radio rom this is completely gone. Also the windows media player actually remembers the last song you were on. The battery life and speed of the device has probably doubled as well.
Its your decision to upgrade, but I am completely happy with upgrading my 8125. And as for mobilehavoc, if you think your 8125 is working great now wait till you upgrade.
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Good to hear. I'm a techno-geek as well so I love having the latest and greatest but I also don't want to mess with something that works perfectly.
I'm also lazy don't want to have to resync everything, reinstall everything, retweak, recustomize. I think my laziness is apparent everywhere - my desktop PC is running Windows XP which was originally installed 4 years ago and is running *knock on wood* perfectly...I know several people like to reload XP regularly.
Guess I'm just different.

YAY i may have to do this when i get mine tommorow hopefully fedex doesn't let me down from what i heard they have

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I have had my 8125 for a week - and have been nothing but impressed. The speed, call quality, functionality have all been great. Just upgraded the rom (I am never satisfied and am always *?^&ing around with things that work fine), and from what I have seen the past 2 hours, things only get better.

is there an app or something where i can just back up all my contacts and put them back on the phone after i flash with a different rom?

MMS working?
To anybody who has loaded a new ROM on a Cingular 8125, did you get MMS working with the new ROM? That (and the seemingly random occurence of Wifi not working for some) is the only thing stopping me upgrading mine when it arrives in the next week or so.
mick.

WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.

Sleuth255 said:
WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.
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Thanks - out of interest, which ROM build are you running?

I've got the production Qtek AKU2 rom installed:
ROM version 2.17.7.2 WWE
Radio version: 2.07.10
After installing, I simply let the builtin extended rom cabs run then installed the Edge Icon fix cab from the original Cingular ext rom. Qtek installs a minimum set of cabs including MMS support. The Edge enable cab from the Cingular ext rom can be found in the Qtek thread in the Wizard updating etc. forum. I posted it there as an attachment.
HTH

I have 8125 running Qtek's AKU2 ROM (2.17.7.2 WWE) that was just released. No problem at all so far. Everything works perfectly. Speed and reliability of the device have improved since then. I stored a lot of calendar items and contacts plus emails syncs. I do recommend the upgrade. Original Cingular ROM isn't fast enough with all the contents that I have.

Agreed. It's pretty much a must-do upgrade IMO. However...
I just wish I could find a way to set the default SIP to the block recognizer... The original reghack is no longer effective.
Then there's that damn battery icon..... :evil:

WM6 upgrade - then no network

I upgraded to WM6 artemis touchflo ROM. Worked fine initially then I lost the network. Is constantly searching.
Try Find Network and just searching
Try change Network selection to manual and get following message:
Network error
Cannot read settings from the network, Try viewing settings later or disconnect data connection and try again.
Retry Cancel
Get the same error if I try Set Networks.
Can anybody help please ?
Saw this on the HTC website today ''The TyTN becomes the first HTC device to get the upgrade, with the HTC P3300, S620 and Advantage also scheduled to receive the upgrade from August''

Have you tried doing a soft reset? (stylus in the hole)

I've tried soft reset, hard reset the lot. Still no joy

Can't think of any other good ideas off hand. Maybe try a reflash?

Why not try just re-flashing the radio first.
Found here

Gajet said:
Why not try just re-flashing the radio first.
Found here
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Thanx - re-flashed the radio but still the same problem. Is there anything else I can try please ?

I never thought I'd say this piece of CS crap, but have you checked the contact of the SIM card, try cleaning the SIM with a dry cloth.
Otherwise a re-flash of the ROM is probably the next best step.
Can you check the SIM works OK in a different phone?

Thanx - SIM works fine in another handset and have flashed back original T-Mobile ROM. Could it be anything to do with the WM6 ROM I used ?

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Thanx - SIM works fine in another handset and have flashed back original T-Mobile ROM. Could it be anything to do with the WM6 ROM I used ?
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Yes, If you desperately want Touchflo, then Tom's B&B 4 is imminent, his track record at ROM releases can't be faulted.

Sorry don't think my last post was very clear. Have flashed back to the original T-Mobile ROM and still same problem no networK

Oh! That's not good.
Sounds suspiciously like a hardware failure then.
Still under warranty?

Got it fixed under warranty by local T-Mobile store Thanx for your help and advice

what was the issue then, i am having the same issue with my orbit, and can not seem to find the problem? i reflashed all versions of the radios, and changed to all kinds of sims availabe on Rogers network in Canada, and the phone works fine from all features, except it does not conenct to the network??? when i do search the network, it reads all the towers available, but does not register on any network !!!
the first time i changed the sim worked like a charm for 30 min, and then the phone de-registrerd itself from the network, and i could not connect again. i could always get it to work for maybe an hour at the most everytime i change to a new sim card, but this is not a solution and a costy one

Please help!! SX66 radio

I've loved my Blue Angel for 2 1/2 years thanks to xda-developers, but right now I just wanna throw it away!
I have a Cingular SX66 (PH20B1) running WM6 from Xplode (6.00.00.WWE) and the radio 1.15. After I upgraded to WM6 everything was kind of OK I thought, until I realized that sometimes calls weren't getting through to me and I was getting 'No service' too often. That's when I upgraded the radio to 1.15. I was getting the no radio error, but I found through searching that if I soft reset and keep the phone charged the radio comes back.
Here's my problem.. even when the phone gets out of 'No service' and finds the network (even showing me full signal strength) I can't make calls! Calls won't come through to me! It's pretty useless as a phone, but it seems to be usually able to send text messages if I have the network. It takes endless soft resets and long waiting just to get it to see the network, and then the phone still doesn't work.
The sim card is fine, and it seems the problem is the same if I downgrade to 2003SE (by the way, I only seem to find T-mobile ROMs that work.. don't know where the WM2003SE ROM is I originally had on here).
The phone only seems to work sometimes if I after I soft-reset, I make the call while the BA is still on the cradle.
If anyone knows of a solution I'd really appreciate it.. on WM2003 my SX66 would only act funny if the charge fell to 60%. Now it's wacky with all the up/downgrading/charging/soft-resetting I've tried.
Thanks!

Additional info
I don't know if this is related, but I have the storage almost full of installed programs and the device is much slower now. Also, the Data Connection buttion is grayed out in HTC Comm Manager.
The phone seems to be working right now. Give it an hour and it'll probably be wacked again

Final solution for 'No service'
Hi burnblue...
Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340557
This resolved my problem...
1) In WM2003 and install bandsel .CAB
2) Choose a band of your operator gsm/country (in Brazil, for my operator is 900/1800Mhz (Operator "Claro" and "TIM")... here in Brazil we have another operator what works in 850mHz (Operator "Vivo").
3) If you want, upgrade your rom for WM6 (much better)... your band selection will be fixed (came to wm2003). I don´t undertand about fixing a band remain after rom version upgrade... No explain about this.
No more issue about radio gsm signal, be happy....
Works perfect to me, I´m 100% certain about this procedure.
Rodrigo Pelosini
burnblue said:
I've loved my Blue Angel for 2 1/2 years thanks to xda-developers, but right now I just wanna throw it away!
I have a Cingular SX66 (PH20B1) running WM6 from Xplode (6.00.00.WWE) and the radio 1.15. After I upgraded to WM6 everything was kind of OK I thought, until I realized that sometimes calls weren't getting through to me and I was getting 'No service' too often. That's when I upgraded the radio to 1.15. I was getting the no radio error, but I found through searching that if I soft reset and keep the phone charged the radio comes back.
Here's my problem.. even when the phone gets out of 'No service' and finds the network (even showing me full signal strength) I can't make calls! Calls won't come through to me! It's pretty useless as a phone, but it seems to be usually able to send text messages if I have the network. It takes endless soft resets and long waiting just to get it to see the network, and then the phone still doesn't work.
The sim card is fine, and it seems the problem is the same if I downgrade to 2003SE (by the way, I only seem to find T-mobile ROMs that work.. don't know where the WM2003SE ROM is I originally had on here).
The phone only seems to work sometimes if I after I soft-reset, I make the call while the BA is still on the cradle.
If anyone knows of a solution I'd really appreciate it.. on WM2003 my SX66 would only act funny if the charge fell to 60%. Now it's wacky with all the up/downgrading/charging/soft-resetting I've tried.
Thanks!
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"no service" is a issue...
Your problem about slower is another problem...
Storage full ~ slower... I had problem´s about these in anothers pda´s.
Take easy to storage your files, much components in today screen, etc...
Use sd card, this help.
Upgrade for Wm6 (xplode rom) and be happy...
WM6 by xplode is faster.
What´s your radio rom version? 1.15 ?
If < 1.15, then upgrade....
Rodrigo Pelosini
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I don't know if this is related, but I have the storage almost full of installed programs and the device is much slower now. Also, the Data Connection buttion is grayed out in HTC Comm Manager.
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not yet
Thanks for the advice rod, but I still have problems.
1. I saw that thread too, and it's not that I have totally 'No service' -- I have signal but calls just won't connect. It might work one minute, but 90% of the time it just doesn't.
2. I can't find a working ROM for my SX66 to downgrade to 2003. I remember weeks ago when I was trying to fix this I think I found a T-mobile ROM, but nothing is working for my downgrade now.
Why is my phone radio so unreliable?

Strange problem...
I have some tests for you...
1) Do you enable PIN ? If yes, then disable.
2) Do you upgrade your radio rom to 1.15? No? Then apply.
3) Do you have problems with anothers gsm chip ? Your SX66 is gsm or cdma ? Possible issue in your gsm chip, maybe... Try another gsm, another operator...
4) What´s the message errors or problems with upgrade or downgrade rom ?
If your sx66 is a cdma phone, sorry, I don´t have any idea how to help you.
In this case, ignore all my questions. My experience in Blue Angel is about gsm...
Take care...
(Send a message if you resolve or not this case...)
Rodrigo
burnblue said:
Thanks for the advice rod, but I still have problems.
1. I saw that thread too, and it's not that I have totally 'No service' -- I have signal but calls just won't connect. It might work one minute, but 90% of the time it just doesn't.
2. I can't find a working ROM for my SX66 to downgrade to 2003. I remember weeks ago when I was trying to fix this I think I found a T-mobile ROM, but nothing is working for my downgrade now.
Why is my phone radio so unreliable?
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