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HTC Wizard: early photos and specs [ 02:00 ]
Source: http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/
The web site Pocket PC Italia has posted early photos and specs of HTC Wizard communicator, which is positioned to replace HTC Magician(the model known as T-Mobile MD Compact, I-Mate Jam or QTek S100 depending on the operator). The communicator is powered by Windows Mobile 5.0. Its QWERTY-keyboard is pulled out from one side in an unusual manner. Besides HTC Wizard has stereo speakers and a 2.1-megapixel camera with the flash. As this info appeared before the official release, the specs can still be changed.
The specs of HTC Wizard:
* GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
* EDGE
* Processor OMAP 850 by Texas Instruments
* Memory - 128 MB ROM, 64 MB RAM
* Screen – 2.8” TFT, QVGA
* Interface - Mini USB, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi 802.11b and IrDA
* Expansion slot for Mini SD cards
That'll be a shame if it only has a MiniSD hole. I'm sure the 4 & 8GB SD cards will start being available when the Wizard is released. You would have though 128MB too.
Oh well, fingers crossed
Here is the actual link -> http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/cms3/templates/PPC-NEWS.ASP?articleid=2222&zoneid=1
The Processoer seams nice:
http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...00&path=templatedata/cm/product/data/omap_850
Hope it also uses the complete 802.11a/b/g Functions and not only b.
The chip has also USB-Host!
Both together with Windows Mobile 5.0 and 128MB Rom would be enough for me to switch from my MDA compact to this baby.
But would prefer it without keyboard...
Not sure about the processor - max speed of 200MHz puts me off.
The IPAQ 6340 has a similar Processor (OMAP1510) also with only 200MHz.
In the OMAP1510 is a ARM925 integrated
In the OMAP850 its a ARM926
Only found this benchmarks:
http://www.ppcreviews.net/news_8130.html
But the OMAP1510 runs only at 168MHz so [email protected] should be a bit faster
XScale MHz != OMAP MHz
XScale MHz != OMAP MHz
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Ti seems to be pushing this mode of thinking, after all the processor has multiple cores dedicated to separate functions.
However in real life situations, OMAP MHz are exactly XScale MHz, look at the benchmarks. You won't be running FPSCE on OMAP any time soon. Just because it has separate cores for DSP doesn't mean that other devices do their radio DSP in software on the main processor, I can't think of one that does. The only special thing that the OMAP can do is parallel video/audio decoding, but then who runs something processor intensive at the same time as watching video? A 400MHz XScale makes a better job of it in S/W, and is not tied to specific codecs; plus many video chipsets/cores offer some form of video helper functions in hardware too (although it seems certain chipset manufacturers don't want developers to use the features )
The only advantage I can see for OMAP is the cost to manufacture, which of course isn't passed on to us consumers...
rough release date
How long do they usually take to release these things after the public find out about them?
Another link
Here's another link I found on the Italian website. This should also be the new HTC phone, but doesn't look exactly as the previous posted link?!? (By the way I don't speak Italian. So can't really understand anything else than HTC and the specs.) :?
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/anteprima_htc_universal.asp
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/cms3/templates/PPC-NEWS.ASP?articleid=2221&zoneid=1
thats because they arent the same phone...
The universal was announced a ickle while back
The bottom link is not the universal....That's a different version of this "wizard"
http://www.pocketpcitalia.com/cms3/templates/PPC-NEWS.ASP?articleid=2349&zoneid=1
Name in italy is Qtek 9000
commercialize in italy 20-30 december 2005 (20/12/2005)
T-mobile name is MDA Pro
price in italy is 900 Euro
Sorry for my bad english.
Byez
HTC Wizard - Real Photos
See: http://www.windowsmobile.no/modules...e=article&sid=443&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
or get a little bit of it in english at Engadget.com
:shock:
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aamp said:
See: http://www.windowsmobile.no/modules...e=article&sid=443&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
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And take a real good look at my fingers :lol:
Øystein
C'mon - where the transalation!
It's a real pitty Google doesn't have a Norwegian to English converter!
How about a few details Oystein. How does it compare with the Magician and have the buttons been moved to better locations (camera, recorded and 'other' (above the volume slider). I need to know!!!!!!!
C'mon - where the transalation!
It's a real pitty Google doesn't have a Norwegian to English converter!
How about a few details Oystein. How does it compare with the Magician and have the buttons been moved to better locations (camera, recorded and 'other' (above the volume slider). I need to know!!!!!!!
I've been walking around with one in my pocket for a few days, it feels kind of plastic, and the keyboard does not slide out in a nicely straight way, it can easily go crooked.
putting it in your pocket always gets it half slid out.
messing up the auto screen switch between landscape/portrait.
and it feels slow.
...
looked inside, it is actually just like the typhoon/sp3 smartphone, same rom layout, and same type of protections.
there is also a smartphone model coming out later this year, that is the same device, but as a smartphone. no touch screen, phone keyboard. 240x320 screen, with wifi.
that, for a smartphone is a really nice device.
willem
The new Dell Axim X51v has 256MB RAM on WM5.0. Why the hell didn't the 'Worlds' Most Powerful fu..ing phone' get this? :evil:
HTC..you are are truly wicked!!! :evil:
You build the Dell Axim don't you? :? Microsoft..you test your software don't you? Stupid question.. you obviously don't, but are quick to charge for incomplete and unpolished software. In contrast you are quick to prosecute people who actually copy your buggy software.
HTC...how can you make new geneeration devices with under-powered bits? 64 MB RAM? C'mon!! Couldn't you have at least given us 128MB RAM so we don't all worry about memory management? Are you listening? Aaarrghh... who cares right :evil: ??!!??
I can't make up my mind if the Universal is an excellent technological achievement or an overpriced, overhyped piece of poorely stiched together meta-technologies. :roll:
So now, I have to learn to become a technology guru, not because I want to, just so I can use my bloody phone. :x
I give up.
No need to have a fit mate!
You've got your numbers mixed up. The Dell Axim has 256MB of ROM, and in fact has 64MB of RAM (same as the Universal).
Windows Mobile 5 introduced persistant storage which basically means everything is stored in ROM, rather than RAM as with WM2003. This means you now have the full amount of RAM available to you, and 64MB is loads!
There's also the issue that if you double the RAM size you double the memory power requirements which affects battery life.
Take a look at this article which explains it all a lot better than I can, and you'll see it's actually a really good idea to have 64MB:
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/07/14/438991.aspx
Persistant Storage
no: 1
Thank you for your informative reply & I found the provided link very useful too. Well, they should have still given us at least what the Dell has got. Except for the keyboard and phone, we've not got much more and we pay more than double! Anyway, thanks again.
I'll discuss these issues with my shrink at our next meeting, I just can't control myself.
What is in the Dell vs. other PDA's that HTC makes is not really something that is comparable. Dell pays HTC for making the Axims. I imagine that if Dell is willing to spend the money on higher specs, they can do that. HTC doesn't decide what's in the Dell Axim, Dell does (for the most part). HTC then engineers and builds the devices.
On the other hand, HTC makes the JasJar for i-mate. i-mate decides the specs they want (with some input from the phoner companies I'm sure) and they pay HTC to make their PDA's. So, just because HTC makes the PDA's doesn't mean they are all going to be same spec-minded or the same cost. It's up to the "brand" (HP, Dell, i-mate etc) what HTC makes for them.
As far as deciding whether the Universal is an excellent technological achievement or an overpriced, overhyped piece of poorly stiched together meta-technologies, it's a little bit of both. It is an excellent technological achievement AND it is overpriced
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mackaby007 said:
Couldn't you have at least given us 128MB RAM
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The motherboard and software was designed
for 128MB RAM, but they put only 64MB into
Universal. Saves THEM money and reduces
power consumption.
DaleReeck said:
As far as deciding whether the Universal is an excellent technological achievement
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Compared to Himalaya and Blueangel, it is a
step back in engineering.
cr2 said:
DaleReeck said:
As far as deciding whether the Universal is an excellent technological achievement
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Compared to Himalaya and Blueangel, it is a
step back in engineering.
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It's a big shame!!!
They promised us heaven, and I find myself in hell!!
This device is a dream, but without minimum 128MB, better 256 MB of RAM, becomes hell, and useless!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :evil: :evil:
256Mb of Ram?
I have a (old) pentium 4 laptop that works well enough with 256Mb of Ram. Doesn't that seem a bit excessive for a PPC, especially as your battery would only last for about 93 seconds?!
As i said, 128mb, or 256 MB, do you have a JasJar? Do you know how it feels, to spend 1.094 euro plus 174 for and SD card ultra speed 2 GB, an not being able to use it at all, with the very simple applications? My Treo 650 runs much better!!!
And then, I shouldn't cry for at least 128 MB??? :twisted:
@trendstyle,
Sell the device.
Anyways, what is it that the 64MB RAM of the JJ does not permit you to do? Why on earth would you need 128MB of RAM? I multi-task extensively with the device and yet face no memory errors. Are you trying to run Photoshop or something like that on your device?
As another forum member has rightly pointed out, what on earth would you need 256Mb RAM for??? It wouldn't even last those 93 seconds!!!
Word of advice to other people who want to crib about the device. Before you start getting all nutty about spending this much and that much on a device, do a thorough research or wait for some reviews. You will save yourself and others the agony and disappointment.
My 0.002.
I entirely agree with Universaldoc.
While listening to the media player and running two processor and memory intensive applications Planmaker and TextMaker simultaneously I still have 10MB of RAM to spare. Why do I need more RAM. I am to use my JJ practically and not to see what amount of applications I need to open simultaneously to kill the JJ. More RAM is technically possible. But do I need it at the expense of battery life. A big "NO" for me at least.
Regards
Do you?
10 Mb are enough?
There are some games, that requires 15 MB of free RAM!!
And in a super top device, this should be acceptable???
Give a look here....
http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=119353&thread=42
Then tell me if I am the only one....
I change a mobile phone every 4 months, buying always what is the top of the technology...
And believe me, at the moment, jasjar doesn't deliver what I-mate promised...
I look forward to a new rom, solving memory problems!
A new rom that came with 256mb memory with it, now there's something....
The universal is a good device and memory is fine on it you can have loads of apps running and it still runs faultlessly. This is not a lap top, if you ned one of those buy one nor is this a mobile it's a great device that tries to accomodate both, sure it could have more memory but then you'd be *****ing that " it's primarily a phone, why is the battery life so bad, it runs out half way through the day and i miss loads of important calls"
trendystyle said:
As i said, 128mb, or 256 MB, do you have a JasJar? Do you know how it feels, to spend 1.094 euro plus 174 for and SD card ultra speed 2 GB, an not being able to use it at all, with the very simple applications? My Treo 650 runs much better!!!
And then, I shouldn't cry for at least 128 MB??? :twisted:
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Yes, I do thanks, and if you "can't use it at all, with the very simple applications" then I'd suggest there's something actually, properly, really, honestly, very wrong with yours?! (Especially if your Treo 650 runs much better)
I know people are now used to computing with 3Ghz AMD64's with 1Gig RAM, and 100's of Gigs of HD space, but let's be realistic here, for a device of it's size, it's fantastic.
Given 128Mb RAM, I'm sure some people would only move on to bemoaning the fact that it 'only' runs at 520Mhz, it 'only' has 128Mb Rom, it 'only' has 802.11b, it's 'only' got 1.3 megapixels, etc, etc, etc.
The JasJar is not perfect, and there's a thread in this forum where people are already posting their JasJar 2 wishlists, but in my personal opinion (and I'm sure many agree), it's currently the best PDA/Phone available, it has near flawless performance for my purposes, and I for one am more than happy with it.
sub69 said:
I know people are now used to computing with 3Ghz AMD64's with 1Gig RAM
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It's a shame to install <8GB RAM with AMD64.
And while you are there, the second CPU will
not hurt 8)
sub69 said:
trendystyle said:
As i said, 128mb, or 256 MB, do you have a JasJar? Do you know how it feels, to spend 1.094 euro plus 174 for and SD card ultra speed 2 GB, an not being able to use it at all, with the very simple applications? My Treo 650 runs much better!!!
And then, I shouldn't cry for at least 128 MB??? :twisted:
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Yes, I do thanks, and if you "can't use it at all, with the very simple applications" then I'd suggest there's something actually, properly, really, honestly, very wrong with yours?! (Especially if your Treo 650 runs much better)
I know people are now used to computing with 3Ghz AMD64's with 1Gig RAM, and 100's of Gigs of HD space, but let's be realistic here, for a device of it's size, it's fantastic.
Given 128Mb RAM, I'm sure some people would only move on to bemoaning the fact that it 'only' runs at 520Mhz, it 'only' has 128Mb Rom, it 'only' has 802.11b, it's 'only' got 1.3 megapixels, etc, etc, etc.
The JasJar is not perfect, and there's a thread in this forum where people are already posting their JasJar 2 wishlists, but in my personal opinion (and I'm sure many agree), it's currently the best PDA/Phone available, it has near flawless performance for my purposes, and I for one am more than happy with it.
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The treo rusns much better, because is able to run all the applications nd games on Palm OS, Jasjar, can't run games like arvale2, age of empire, ancient evil, are we talking about the latest in pocket pc phone, that can't do what my Asus 420mhz did 1 and a half year ago???
cr2 said:
sub69 said:
I know people are now used to computing with 3Ghz AMD64's with 1Gig RAM
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It's a shame to install <8GB RAM with AMD64.
And while you are there, the second CPU will
not hurt 8)
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very funny...
By the way, do you think I am having fun??
Maybe I am posting this, to make sure, that until something get fixed with a new ROM, nobody will do the same mistake I did, Jasjar has been sent out in beta release....
I know people are now used to computing with 3Ghz AMD64's with 1Gig RAM, and 100's of Gigs of HD space, but let's be realistic here, for a device of it's size, it's fantastic.
Concerning this, I have a Dell Inspiron, 9300( a laptop), 2.14GHz Centrino Sonoma(equivalent to a Pentium 4, 3,8 Ghz), with 2 GB of ram, and Nvidia 6800 go with 256MB of video memory,I like my tech stuff to be the top, and this is why I bought right away the Jasjar, as all the review I read on the web they were screaming it was great!
My Inspiron is great, Jasjar, not at the moment...
In my point of view I assume 64 RAM are enough but if we had a big DOC storage well lets say about 256 MB this could be something for us, but the facts and the sad parts, which it's the 128MB of DOC :evil: !!!
I was reading the Universal hardware specs, we could upgrade the DOC to a bigger size!!! But we need a hardware techy to solder it.
Just goto this link you will know better Click Here!
ramram said:
In my point of view I assume 64 RAM are enough but if we had a big DOC storage well lets say about 256 MB this could be something for us, but the facts and the sad parts, which it's the 128MB of DOC :evil: !!!
I was reading the Universal hardware specs, we could upgrade the DOC to a bigger size!!! But we need a hardware techy to solder it.
Just goto this link you will know better Click Here!
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If it's possible, I will do it, let me know if you get more news about it!
Why niki is slow?? This is my question... I have an older qtek 2020 and it's very faster than niki... why??
video drivers... install a rom with the s600 driver already on it, trust me, its wayyyy faster.
I recomend Mary v.02.
Yes I installed but it's not faster than a lot of other device uff.. It is very slow.,..
I can only compare it to my S110, its a little faster in certain things, but slower in games and emulation, not that much slower... just enought to be noticed.
yesterday I saw an iphone and it's very faster,..
Billokko said:
yesterday I saw an iphone and it's very faster,..
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Diferent hardware and OS, you really cant compare...
Iphone's cpu is almost twice as fast as the dual's one
And it has proper hardware accaleration;p
ok but in comparison to others devices niki is very slow...
In that we agree... My S100 from 2003 is much faster than this, but because it was that old it had a lot of other problems, the battery was starting to fail, a side button was broken and couldnt be easily fixed, some newer programs werent wm2003 compatible, etc...
Its sad that most new phones are so below the old ones, and the few that are better are unreasonably expensive.
I can still buy a brand new S110 for about 100/150€ with 416mhz, 128 of ram and 128 of rom, and thanks to wm2003 i can have a wooping free ram of 90mb (depending if its the s100 or s110) and the video card works fine, so everything is smooth.
The design, sound and camera of the dual are obviously superior, plus it can have 3g internet, but it costs 4 times more than the S110.
Just sad...
soulcrusher said:
Iphone's cpu is almost twice as fast as the dual's one
And it has proper hardware accaleration;p
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Almost twice as fast, you mean 600mHz versus 400mHz ....
The Niki has proper hardware acceleration, its just the muppets at HTC that haven't bothered to use it in any way, shape or form.
Tought iphone was about 750 mhz
Anyways, a Niki doesnt have drivers wich we all know, but compare ANY wm5 or wm6 mobile to a wm2003 or even older(!) device, and the older one outperforms the newer one. WM2003 devices use sdram, and newer ones mostly flash memory, wich is way slower (because a wm2003 device couldnt be turned of because of the ram memory that loses it's storage). So every program that writes or reads often from the memory is considerable slower on wm6 than on wm2003. But if you compare a wizard to a nike, the nike's way faster because of it's cpu.
no productor made a ram upgrade for the shift?
not i my knowed
i still wait for 2gb microdimm rollout !
pitt1983 said:
no productor made a ram upgrade for the shift?
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Any news on a RAM upgrade to 2GB for the Vista-side?
Thanx for any reply
baucis99
Available here: http://store.shopfujitsu.com/fpc/Ec... Expansion&title=2 GB DDR2 Micro-DIMM 533 MHz
Anyone want to try?
how do you know that memory is compatible ?
there is no pin information about that memory module
bluesbrothers93 said:
how do you know that memory is compatible ?
there is no pin information about that memory module
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I agree, and from the post where there is the disassembly guide, the RAM looks totally different!!
And 509$ is a big challenge.
apparently, the Fujitsu UMPC that the RAM is for uses 214 pin Micro DIMM Ram. All the info I've read around the internet says this, but I haven't been able to find a disassembly guide (of the Fuji UMPC) to confirm this visually. As to the picture on the Fuji website, all of their ram upgrades use the same pic. Am I willing to be the first to drop the cash to find out? No sir, but hopefully someone will be able to show a pic, or actually pull the trigger and buy one.
I have no idea. I just did a search for 2GB MicroDIMM and got this result in google. Hardware experts should say if it is compatible. But if within MicroDIMM, there are different pin types then it is not good. It just leads to confusion for the consumers.
i've send a email to the support for information about this memory module
to be continue
Pic of the shift RAM attached.
You'll see that the connector is on the side, and it lays flat and clips on to the mobo.
What we need is a picture of the RAM from inside a fujitsu p1610 UMPC. Anyone find a pic, or know someone who has one?
BluesBrothers93 gave this link in another forum :
http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/pres...new_flash/Kingston/KTC_MicroDimm214_angle.jpg
We can see that the connectors are on the side and not as usual...
Here is the info about 1GB module. Looks same. Data sheet is also available here for experts: http://shop.kingston.com/partsinfo.asp?promo=PRCGRBR&ktcpartno=KVR667D2U5/1G
2GB doesn't seem to be available yet.
Shift MicroDimm caracteristic
List of Micro-DIMM features
• 214-Pin PC-5300,PC2-4200 and PC2-3200 DDR2
SDRAM memory modules for use as main memory when
installed in systems such as mobile personal computers.
• 128M × 64 module organisation and 64M ×16 chip
organisation
• JEDEC standard Double-Data-Rate-Two Synchronous
DRAMs (DDR2 SDRAM) with a single + 1.8 V (± 0.1 V)
power supply
• 1 GB modules built with 1 Gb DDR2 SDRMs in chipsize
packages PG-TFBGA-84.
• Programmable CAS Latencies (3, 4 and 5), Burst Length
(8 & 4)
• Burst Refresh, Distributed Refresh and Self Refresh
• All inputs and outputs SSTL_18 compatible
• OCD (Off-Chip Driver Impedance Adjustment) and ODT
(On-Die Termination)
• Serial Presence Detect with E2PROM
• Micro-DIMM Dimensions (nominal): 30 mm high, 54.0 mm
wide
• Based on JEDEC standard reference layouts Raw Card
“A”
• RoHS compliant product1)
Fujitsu Siemens FPCEM394AP
Does anyone know if FPCEM394AP from Fujitsu Siemens will be compatible with the Shift? I tried to email Fujitsu support to get a datasheet with more information, but after two weeks they still havent replied.
EDIT: I didn't notice that this memory module has been discussed previously in this post
JuBond said:
What we need is a picture of the RAM from inside a fujitsu p1610 UMPC. Anyone find a pic, or know someone who has one?
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http://www.pcoxford.com/pdf/P1610_RAM.pdf
Deadnex!
Still havent recieved a reply from Fujitsu?
If it fits, I'd like to try it out
kakemann said:
Deadnex!
Still havent recieved a reply from Fujitsu?
If it fits, I'd like to try it out
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Unfortunately it is incompatible with the Shift.
Sorry
It seems like some other suppliers also has 1 gig, with 214pins connector.
But unfortunately it seems like no one has made a 2 gb which fits.
Found these 2 types, but they are still 1GB:
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/mi1gbpc214pi.html
http://www.techshout.com/hardware/2...for-notebook-computers-released-by-transcend/
I guess we just have to wait for some of them to release a 2GIG
Hello,
as almost everyone in this forum, I'm eagerly waiting for a 2GB memory module to install in my Shift. I'm sure that a 2GB memory module would make Vista really fly and take a lot of the disk-swapping out of it.
I just emailed a good friend who works for a memory company, asking if/when they will be selling a 2GB part, based on the specs that were published above.
Let's see what he says, and I'll update then.
Just seen that.
They advertise the compact as a 2GB RAM device, knowing that they only deliver 1,8 GB.
Anyone else seen that before?
I do not think it s a way to free up to full 2GB as advertised?
Other brands deliver 2GB if they tell their devices have, why not so z5 compact?
punkrockfan said:
Just seen that.
They advertise the compact as a 2GB RAM device, knowing that they only deliver 1,8 GB.
Anyone else seen that before?
I do not think it s a way to free up to full 2GB as advertised?
Other brands deliver 2GB if they tell their devices have, why not so z5 compact?
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Where's the source on what you're talking about? The RAM is always going to be used up by something - the OS, launcher, etc. You're not going to turn the phone on and have exactly 2GB of RAM available.
Sure, but it says 1,4 out of 1,8 used, 3xx free.
That means Limit is 1,8 as shown under Memory, not 2 as advertised. Never noticed that on a phone before.
As soon as the device is running memory is used, but it should say out of 2,0 not 1,8?
@punkrockfan
you're a little late to the party
http://www.disk-space-guide.com/size-units.aspx
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte
https://blogs.gnome.org/cneumair/2008/09/30/1-kb-1024-bytes-no-1-kb-1000-bytes/
http://superuser.com/questions/287375/what-is-the-origin-of-k-1024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_binary_prefixes
Also - not sure why you'd want to specifically blame Sony for this
Coming from the technical, developer background:
you have to consider that device drivers also eat up quite some memory/storage (best example: the Galaxy S, GT-i9000: 512 MB advertised, at best 300 [384 at best] available)
it's only the device drivers, it's the kernel (system) itself that also needs memory
so you'd basically have to advertise e.g. 2 GB but plug in 3 or even 4 GB to have full access for e.g. apps
All companies define a gigabyte to be 1000MB, and a megabyte to be 1000kb, etc etc. In reality it's 1024KB per MB, and 1024MB per GB.
You never fully get 2GB, just check your computer eg. your hardrive might be 1tb big, but in reality its only somewhat over 900gb? 16gb ram might only be 15.9 gb!
Well, nice, not sure since when vienna is germany?
punkrockfan said:
Well, nice, not sure since when vienna is germany?
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derailing the topic like a pro
Home Country vs. Service Provider vs. City
you'd know that if you had taken a look at your own profile
(I moved back some time ago)
Thanks for the notice though
The topic is...that in Windows the full RAM without any convertings of bits and bytes is shown.
Only Hard Disks have that "exchange" from 2TB to 1,8 e.g.
So I was not awaiting that on mobile RAM too.
Really ?
I gotta take a look next time I booted into Windows,
Android sort of is Unix, Linux - so that is more to be expected
yep
BIOS: 3096MB a 4GB Bar
Windows too
But I got an explanation somewhere else as smartphones use flash memorys equal to SSDs so its the same 1000 isnt 1024...thing there )
punkrockfan said:
yep
BIOS: 3096MB a 4GB Bar
Windows too
But I got an explanation somewhere else as smartphones use flash memorys equal to SSDs so its the same 1000 isnt 1024...thing there )
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3096MB ?
that looks more like a 32bit OS limitation though
punkrockfan said:
yep
BIOS: 3096MB a 4GB Bar
Windows too
But I got an explanation somewhere else as smartphones use flash memorys equal to SSDs so its the same 1000 isnt 1024...thing there )
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Plus, on android some ram is reserved by GPU. Unlike dedicated graphic card on PC/Mac which got their owned ram but our GPU shared with system memory.
Same thing as onboard GPU on desktop systems so?
Well 3096 per slot, using several 4GB bars, no 32 bit limitation)