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I have a xdaII with O2 in the UK, on the LeisureTime ALL tarriff.
I am at a loss to find out the cost of making data calls on this network, the pricing on their website is way to convoluted.
Ive also asked their support people, and even they are confused!#
On the xda, by default i get the option to connect WAP over GPRS, and MOBILE WEB.
Can anyone tell me what is the cost of conneting to either? Is is data im being charged for or minutes? (reason i ask, is ive seen some pricing which talks about Mb, others talks about minutes).
Also, if it is minutes, then can i use my free xnet minutes to connect?
many thanks in advance.
Hi I got a T mobile datacard contract (£20 per month for unlimted 3G/GPRS) but intend to use the SIM with my Exec instead of the datacard !! however im stuck on getting the settings working
This is what I have tried so far,
Homepage: http://wap.t-mobile.co.uk/ or http://www.t-zones.co.uk/
GPRS APN address: general.t-mobile.uk
Gateway (IP) address :149.254.001.010
Username : user
Password: wap
Session type: Continuous / permanent
Port number: 9201
Authentication: Normal
SMTP email server: smtp.t-email.co.uk
but when I went to connections (new connection) I could not input all the above info, when I tried to connect, it connected but did not pull any data off the internet.
sorted !!! I was using to much info all i needed was the apn the username and the password
For those that want to browse the internet on the XDA exec and not pay £3 per MB to O2 you should consider this contract !! its great, unlimited data (2GB per month fair usage really) for £20 per month which is way better than o2's business tariffis
ice_coffee said:
For those that want to browse the internet on the XDA exec and not pay £3 per MB to O2 you should consider this contract !! its great, unlimited data (2GB per month fair usage really) for £20 per month which is way better than o2's business tariffis
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I utterly agree! Only I'm on th £15/month for 50minutes and unlimited data bundle..
but did you get a WiFi 3G GPRS data card with it !!!
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but did you get a WiFi 3G GPRS data card with it !!!
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..no. but if you "intend to use the SIM with the Exec instead of the datacard"...
(Does this mean your card does Wifi AND 3G? Nice, if you're gonna use it of course.)
Yes it does Wifi,3g gprs and edge gprs, I will be using it primarily as a wifi card for my laptop (it came with a free 1 year global access to T mobile hot spots including BT openzone)
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ice_coffee said:
For those that want to browse the internet on the XDA exec and not pay £3 per MB to O2 you should consider this contract !! its great, unlimited data (2GB per month fair usage really) for £20 per month which is way better than o2's business tariffis
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I utterly agree! Only I'm on th £15/month for 50minutes and unlimited data bundle..
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Was that bundle from O2, as per your profile, or from T-Mobile, as per ice_coffee's initial post?
If O2, was it specifically residential or business?
Does it have a product name?
Was it offered to you as a new product, or as a continuation "carrot"?
I've just bought my XDA Exec from O2 and although I asked, I wasn't offered anything like that.
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Was that bundle from O2, as per your profile, or from T-Mobile, as per ice_coffee's initial post?
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TMob.... I switched.
I have not switched, I am using a dual sim, I just switch between what I want, using the comm manager
Thanks both - looked at T-Mobile's site, and the deals do look better than O2 for data, although I couldn't find that £15 per month deal. Also looked at the Ts'n'Cs and noticed VoIP is banned, which reduced the attractiveness somewhat.
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Thanks both - looked at T-Mobile's site, and the deals do look better than O2 for data, although I couldn't find that £15 per month deal.
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It's actually a £7.50 deal, but it allows you to add the £7.50 webnwalk bundle.
Hello,
It's been about a year since I purchased my O2 XDA Exec from O2 and my contract is soon expiring. I am not a business customer, I simply want access to the internet to manage my website, stay in contact through email and using the internet for general purpose, such as reading news.
In advance, please forgive me as I am quite a newbie in the phone area when it comes to things like services and sim cards.
I am currently paying around £40/m for my O2 XDA Exec and Data Max (120mb). It seems now, that O2 have removed data tarrifs completely from non-business users. Previously only the bottom 3 were available, now they are all business only.
My main problem stems from the fact I don't use my exec for the internet often as I usually have some other access to the internet at home or at work or a dialup line. However, when I am away from home and work, I use the internet an awful lot (thus a tiny 5mb plan or so wouldn't be enough) and for things such as Logmein (eats up megabytes).
This leads me to wonder what my best option would be. Is there any general non-business options open to people with a lower monthly cost than £40/m but with more than a tiny bit of data (20mb+, ideally 75mb+).
Which leads into my second question - is there any way I can use any of these services on my XDA exec, or will I have to buy a new phone? From what I have read, I understand you can buy a different sim card and put it in the phone and use that service instead.
What looks the most perfect for me, is T-Mobile. T-Mobile seem to have very good internet data plans, and they seem to acknowledge that non-business customers actually do want access to the internet and not just a tiny amount of data. Their Web 'n' walk Plus (12) for £29 a month for unlimited access and allowing laptop access. They also seem to have a service where you pay £1 and then get internet access for the day. This would be even more perfect for me, where I need lots of internet in one go, but then no usage for other times.
My next question would be, do I stand any change of using either of these services with my XDA Exec, and if so, how could I go about doing it? I have done my best to search for details, but have found conflicting reports and a lack of details about how to go about doing these things, especially for a newbie like me lacking in knowledge in this area.
I would really appreciate any help anyone could provide,
Thanks in advance
Firstly, I assume that your Exec is unlocked and that you can use any sim in it. AFAIK, all O2 Execs came unlocked, but it might be worth trying a friend's sim in yours first. If not unlocked, I would guess there is an unlock tool somewhere on this forum - haven't looked myself as haven't needed to! Otherwise, there is no reason not to use your Exec on another network - mine is on t-mobile.
Secondly, and somebody may be able to offer advice on this, Three also offer decent unlimited data services but as far as I can see they don't offer sim-only pay monthly deals.
What you don't say is if you use your exec for voice calls at all and how much. On the (big) assumption that voice is not important to you, t-mobile offer two options:
1) pay monthly sim-only - £7.50 gives you 50 mins voice per month per month (15p per minute). You can then add the £7.50 web'n'walk option (unlimited data, but no modem, voip or streaming use). I have read elsewhere that it can be problematic getting this package from sales but I am using it myself so persevere! I assume you can also add the web'n'walk plus instead.
2) Pay as you go sim - 12p per minute plus 0.73p per KB, capped at £1 per day but the t&cs seem to say no modem use so may not be for you.
If you really don't want data approaching 1GB per month as offered by t-mobile, Vodafone's deals may be better - don't have much knowledge of them but they offer 15MB per day for £1 on PAYG (although it seems that it is £1 for the 0.5MB and then free to 15MB, so it may be more expensive than t-mobile - haven't done the maths), or 120MB for £7.50 per month if you're on a sim-only pay monthly contract. They offer 150 mins and 500 texts for £20 per month so this is a marginally better deal than t-mobile if you want to use the Exec for voice. Also, reading the t&cs, they don't seem to preclude modem use as with the basic web'n'walk. Someone may correct me on this.
I did (almost) exactly the same thing when switching from Orange - went onto one of T-Mobiles 'Relax' packages (combined calls and texts) plus web 'n' walk unlimited internet, and I only pay £27.50 a month now and tend to use the internet a lot. I also got a free Nokia 6233 as well, but put a payg sim in this instead and put the contract sim in my uni...
As far as configuration goes, once you join T-Mobile, you can register on their website, which allows you to access an interactive manual for your device - mine was initially set to the Nokia, but you can change it to the MDA Pro (same as the exec) and it then explains, very clearly, what you need to do to configure gprs/3g connections, etc.
One word of warning though, gsm internet access (which is set up to dial a number) is not included in web 'n' walk, so if you use activesync to sync outlook mails and a gprs/3g connection is not available, it can potentially dial up a gsm connection and stick lots of call charges on your account. This happened to me, and about £150 of extra charges were put on my bill - I managed to get them removed and now I don't have a gsm internet account set up on my uni so it doesn't happen again.
Hope this helps.
good info.
I ll do the same.
O2 is not that good for internet. but good for minutes
T mobile internet is cheap.
I moved to three not so long ago.
I'm not sure if the offer is still there but i'm currently paying:
£17.50 line rental
£10.00 X-Series
£27.50 a month total.
I chose the worst phone(dont use it (LG U300)) from their tarrif to give me 18 months half price line rental. Gives me:
300mins
1000txts
£5 downloads a month
50 video mins
25 MMS
X-Series Gold gives me:
Slingbox & Orb usage (80 hours a month (about 2 hrs a day))
5000 Skype minutes a month
Unlimited MSN Messenger
Unlimited Internet (1 gig before they start throttling)
Signed up for X-Series gold for 12 months (in shop) and they give you a free slingbox (worth about £140) not bad at all!!
Pretty damn good deal. I must say I love three, not had any issues at all.
You can also get x-series silver which is without the orb & sling stuff for £5 a month.
I doubt you'll get a better deal from another mobile provider. The slingbox is just sick, watch your sky tv on the move, i've not tried it yet as it will involve some additional networking but I can't wait!!
worth a look...
Thanks a lot for all the replies, some really useful information and I very much appreciate it. I apolpogise for the lateness of my reply but unfortunately I have been inundated with work which has put me back looking into this.
What seems to be the most perfect for me, is this plan from the T-Mobile site:
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/mobile-internet/on-your-phone-and-laptop/
Web'n'walk Plus for £12.50/month on top of your voice plan
It says you can use it on your laptop and on your phone, and includes the data allowance (but no VOIP).
However, I'm still a little unclear - would it be possible to get a sim card (withouta phone) for this plan from T-Mobile as it doesn't seem possible from the site? If so, would I get the sim card, configure my Universal with the required settings and then be ready to go?
Thanks for your time,
Quboid.
You can get a sim only monthly plan from T-Mobile, but it only includes 50 minutes of calls and is £7.50 a month and there doesnt look to be any sort of scale of charges associated with it. It also doesn't see to be available bundled with a web n walk plan, so the only internet you get with it is max charge of £1 per day for using the internet.
I would pick a decent handset to get for free, to use as a spare or if you don't want to lug your Exec about with sometimes, and go with your initial web n walk plan.
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You can get a sim only monthly plan from T-Mobile, but it only includes 50 minutes of calls and is £7.50 a month and there doesnt look to be any sort of scale of charges associated with it. It also doesn't see to be available bundled with a web n walk plan, so the only internet you get with it is max charge of £1 per day for using the internet.
I would pick a decent handset to get for free, to use as a spare or if you don't want to lug your Exec about with sometimes, and go with your initial web n walk plan.
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Thanks for your reply,
Is it pretty much impossible then to be able to get a sim to use in m Exec without having to get another phone? It seems somewhat furstrating if I have a compatible phone and such to have to get another in order to be able to go with T-mobile? Is there any hope of getting web 'n' walk without having to do this?
Thanks a lot
Try phoning up their sales department. They'll be best suited to give you decent info, i'm sure they want a sale.
http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/
they might have some more info.
whot is the best deal for cheapest internet in UK for mideum to havy use
i.e. Voip Skype, Windows Live mesenger ?
preferably SIM only ?
i'd like to know the options too. I used to have O2 pay and go and it burned my credit ridiculously. Orange pay and go is OK atm, i pay a fiver for 1 week. It does seem slow, though. Even when the edge icon is showing, my laptop's internet connection is always sloow; windows reports 230.4 Kbps, dslreports reports 42Kbps but things seem sluggish.
I love my tmobile sim only monthly contract.
£7.50 a month for50minutes, but, because it's a contract, I get 5to add the £7.50 a month web n walk bundle onto it.
Virtually unlimited* data for £15 a month.
* I use lots of push email, messaging, grpahical rss feeds etc.... they've never given me trouble.
X 3 sales consultant
i think your best bet is 3 network. they have the best deal with skype and unlimited browsing at £5 a month. all you have to do is signup for a £15 deal and then include X-series silver in your price plan. you will get a free handset(nokia6120 recomd).then you can take out your sim/chip and pop it into any 3G handset.
shelay said:
i think your best bet is 3 network. they have the best deal with skype and unlimited browsing at £5 a month. all you have to do is signup for a £15 deal and then include X-series silver in your price plan. you will get a free handset(nokia6120 recomd).then you can take out your sim/chip and pop it into any 3G handset.
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That's not bad.
EDIT: Oh hold on "When using the internet, you can't use some websites (including adult websites)" - I don't like isps telling me what sites I can't visit?
Also:-
# Unlimited data* to use on:
# Web surfing (Yahoo! Search, Yahoo! Go)
# Mobile Mail (Yahoo! Mail, Gmail and other ISPs)
# Podcasts
Does this mean I can't access the rest of the internet? Is it still wall gardened?
Sim only on 3
im thinking of getting SIM only offer with free windows live mesenger untill end of 2007 (sounds good)
and question about 5 pounds internet addon ----
cen i wisit site's like XDA-developers etc. will it be imcluded in that 5 pound addon ?
is limit a 1GB a month or what ?
it sed not to be used as a modem, whot will they do if i do use it as a modem ? how would they know ?
will all these work on Windows Mobile 6 smartphone ? (WM6 Treo750 unbranded, unlocked)
been tryin to research this myself too! V frustrating tryin to work out what im gettin for my money with so much *terms and conditions bulls**t!
use my htc touch for work to receive email sending and receiving would be nice to be able to use skype and general internet with out worrying about costs!! web and walk seems to exclude messinger and voip, 02 is offering me 600mins 500txt and 1mb for £35/month or xtra 20mb for a tenner extra and £300 cashback over the year dont know how quick i would use 21mb tho?
Dose anybody know if Three (3) UK network internet add-on include MSN (Windows LIve Mesenger) conversations ?
Hi all , just got a spv m3100 and am gonna upgrade to WM6 and unlock the SIM/CID , now then.....
In the UK which is the cheapest/best data provider on PAYG , anyone offer free browsing on evenings/weekends? Do all use HSPDA?
How do i go about setting up 3g or even where to buy a 3g sim?
Also WIFI is free if i connect to my own wireless router isnt it?
Sorry for being so completely thick , and i have googled around for data tariffs btw but cant really work out half the hidden charges etc
i dunno about cheapest/best data provider, but for sure noone offers free evenings.
3g service is a capability built into your phone, and a "3g" sim card is just a normal sim card. there really is no such thing.
Wifi IS most definitely free if you connect to your own router.
Thanks for the responce , I know Orange do free evenings....
"Get up to 1000 free texts to anyone every month
and free evening mobile Internet browsing"
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/sim/payg_sim
Apparently the most you can spend is 1 pound a day (on most providers) , is this for 3G as well as / or only for GPRS. And are there any hidden charges?
How have you guys found browsing on your PPC's/PDA's etc?
Also which provider should i choose , who provides the best service in your opinion?
cheers
roy
as i understand it, 100p = 1 pound, right?
It shows that each area/region code has different going rate.
It seems like a reasonable deal, and orange i believe has 2g services (EDGE)
I think it says that the REGISTRATION fee is 1 pound, and the most you will end up spending for data is 2 pounds a day. This works like any prepaid card, you add money, you call people, money gets taken off the card.
It seems like a good deal, but orange has a history of sneaky language.
For example, their "Unlimited Data" actually mean "At 3 gb, we start watching you"
roy8846 said:
Hi all , just got a spv m3100 and am gonna upgrade to WM6 and unlock the SIM/CID , now then.....
In the UK which is the cheapest/best data provider on PAYG , anyone offer free browsing on evenings/weekends? Do all use HSPDA?
How do i go about setting up 3g or even where to buy a 3g sim?
Also WIFI is free if i connect to my own wireless router isnt it?
Sorry for being so completely thick , and i have googled around for data tariffs btw but cant really work out half the hidden charges etc
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I think the 3 network is the best , 5 pound per month for 2 g data . it is very good at the moment , I use it for some months and the speed is ok so if you want to use the net on the go you should try to give it a go
buy a 3 simcard
install cap file on your spv m3100 which is all setting for internet
click start/setting/connection
click connection/manage existing connection
click Proxy setting/advanced
stick this network uses aproxy server to connect to the internet
click wap under server enter 192.168.71.35 under port 9201
click ok 5 times
topup 10 pound PAYG and then use your spv 3100 go to http://mobile.three.co.uk/pc/Live/pcreator/live/mwsun
go to my 3
from there you to buy internet add-on 5 pound p/m
you should only go to internet after bouth add-on because if you didnt they will charge very expensitive