I have set the screen toggle (using the enter key) and can turn the screen off while listening to music (a must for battery life), but each time a new track starts, the screen comes back on with the backlight, and I have to toggle it again..... any ideas guys?
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Am I the only person suffering from this.... I'd really appreciate your views... Ta
I have the same problem, but when I close my mda IV then it shuts down display completely
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Firstly, a big thanks to everyone for all their help. As a relatively, well, simple user this forum has been great.
Something else I was wondering was that on my old pda it was possible to listen to music with the screen off (to save battery). It seems on the Atom this is possible as when I put it in standby mode the radio remains on, however when I try this using Media Player or TCPMP the music stops.
I have noticed that music does continue if I turn the backlight off, however as this does not seems to completly turn (the screen or the backlight) off, the battery is still used more than in standby mode ..... any ideas ?
It's possible that the radio is just independant hardware, like the phone (eg on the magician you can switch the phone to standby and still remain in a call).
But TCPMP etc are running software, so I think the best you'll get is screen off for those apps. There are certain power saving features you could implement, but screenoff is probably best for saving juice.
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Hmmm ... seem to of missed the obvious with my own question. TCPMP comes with the option to assign "Screen Off" to a hotkey within the settings menu. With this done I can turn the screen off completely, keep the music (and phone) running and save precious battery life.
Guys its one thing after another!
This thing is in urgent need of a Rom Update!
The back light doesnt turn off after the specified time! Not completely anyway.
What happens is that it just dims out to a very low backlight and still stays on!
The same thing happens even when its connected to activesync on the pc!
Anyone else experience this?
Thanks in advance for any help anybody can provide.
Dead Cell.
I think that is normal behavior. If you need your backlight off while the device is still running, I think there are 3rd party apps that can take care of that. The only time I want that option is when listening to music, and TCPMP can map a button to toggle the screen off.
If your phone is connewcted to PC then it's powered and stays on low light setting when not used. But if you disconnect it from power/pc, after a specified time, the screen turns off. At least on mine. However, when listening to music the screen never turns off.
mihaig said:
If your phone is connewcted to PC then it's powered and stays on low light setting when not used. But if you disconnect it from power/pc, after a specified time, the screen turns off. At least on mine. However, when listening to music the screen never turns off.
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My Prophet backlight used to go completely off while the device could actually be on, pressing the D-pad could bring the screen backlight on again. It was still possible to see that the screen was on by holding it up to a bright light.
When unplugged from the power supply, my observation has been that the Trinity back-light doesn't go completely off, it changes from normal brightness to very very dim, but not off. It goes completely off when the device goes into standby.
I use Mortplayer for listening to music, which has a feature that turns the screen off, not just the back-light, which saves a lot of battery power.
mihaig said:
If your phone is connewcted to PC then it's powered and stays on low light setting when not used. But if you disconnect it from power/pc, after a specified time, the screen turns off. At least on mine. However, when listening to music the screen never turns off.
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Not neccessarily... It has a setting on the Battery option where you can select the amount of time after which the back light goes off both on battery power and external power.
Anyway mine stays on even when its not connected to the PC ie, external power.
It just goes dim after the specified amount of time and stays like that untill the device goes off.
Thanks.
When you say 'goes off' do you mean 'enters standby'? When not connected my p3600 dims the backlight after 30 seconds. Two minutes later it enters standby (that's the time I set it up from settings). However it only enters standby if I don't listen to music.
Hi,
I noticed the same proble, I never the used the original Rom coming with the Trinity cos I bought it last Sat and I installed the DOPOD test rom with GPS support straight away.
With my TYTN when I'm on a call after a while (a minute) the screen togles, however with the TRINITY the screen stays on (brightness goes away) but still there (no togle).
Can somebody with a non-gps dopod rom confirm that they do not suffer this behaviour?
thanks,
Elsral
My Trinity is still original (Dutch). When in the backlight settings, I slide the indicator all the way to the left, the backlight still is on (very low, but it is still on).
A colleague of mine has a Hermes; when he does the same thing, his backlight is off completely.
Also, before the P3600, I owned an Ipaq 5550 which also was able to switch backlight off completely.
Hope this is corrected in a future ROM update...
elsral said:
Hi,
I noticed the same proble, I never the used the original Rom coming with the Trinity cos I bought it last Sat and I installed the DOPOD test rom with GPS support straight away.
With my TYTN when I'm on a call after a while (a minute) the screen togles, however with the TRINITY the screen stays on (brightness goes away) but still there (no togle).
Can somebody with a non-gps dopod rom confirm that they do not suffer this behaviour?
thanks,
Elsral
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German Trinity Original ROM here. The device switches the screen completely off after the amount of time I have selected. It is the same behaviour that I know from my other pocket computers and it seems completely ok. Something wrong with the Dopod ROM?
My phone is always waking up for odd reasons (AVRCP commands, switching in and out of roaming, etc...), and I can't seem to get the darned thing to stay OFF.
Music A2DP streaming is the biggest deal to me, because not only will the device wake up when I press a remote command (on my AVRCP headset), it will also keep the device backlight on indefinitely. This is clearly shortening my battery.
I tried Slide2Unlock, and have it set to shut off the display if no activity for 5 sec., but the problem is that Slide2Unlock appears to not notice when it is woken up, and just sits there without turning the screen back off again! (a simple screen press brings Slide2U back to life, and then it will toggle the screen... but this defeats the purpose!)
There must be SOMETHING I'm missing here... doesn't anyone else have this problem???
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
Maybe it depends on the player you're using? With Coreplayer, my phone's screen just flashes on and off quickly when it receives an AVRCP command.
Still doesn't explain the roaming thing though.
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I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
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Yes, I'm using WM6 on a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul).
I don't currently timeout to the today screen, but I don't see how that would cause my problem really- I've heard people mention that before, so can anyone explain what difference that would make?
I already have a shortcut to screen toggle (wrote my own MortScript to do it). That's not a problem anyway since every media player can assign a button to toggle the screen- The problem is that it keeps turning the screen back on when a button is pressed no matter how many times I toggle!!
Plastriq, I've heard that coreplayer does that... that's how they deal with this problem. They're the only ones that have addressed it as far as I know, and I'm not about to pay for their app when I already have TCPMP and WMP for free.
I just can't believe that there haven't been more practical ways around this yet!
I'm running into a usability issue with PocketShield on the Touch HD.
I use Pocket Player for audio book listening quite a bit. Pocket Player has an option to turn off the display after 60 seconds to conserve battery power, while still playing the audio. After I installed PocketShield, it was initially turning off my device every time Pocket Player turned off the screen. (So the audio was stopping too.) I then added Pocket Player to the "application permissions" in PocketShield, so that the device is not locked while Pocket Player is loaded. That prevented the turn-off problem.
But, now, PocketShield is effectively preventing Pocket Player from turning off the screen. Any time Pocket Player times out after 60 seconds and turns off the screen, the screen goes off for only a split second, only to come right back on again. (I know that this is like a power cycle for the device, because if I leave a menu in Pocket Player open--like I sometimes do with the seek menu, to be able to rewind quickly, if I have to, while listening--the menu is closed when the screen comes on again.) Of course, this now means that, as long as PocketShield is on, the screen is always on while using Pocket Player, which multiplies battery usage by a factor of five or more, naturally.
The only workaround that I can think of is to turn PocketShield off (or "disable" it) any time I'll use Pocket Player, and turn it back on after I'm done. This is hardly convenient, and it leaves the door open for forgetting to turn PocketShield back on and ending up with pocket dialing again and all sorts of unintended button use while in my pocket, which completely defeats the purpose of using PocketShield. I look through the settings in PocketShield and I can't see any that would hold any hope in helping me with this problem.,
Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know of a workaround? I doubt that Pocket Player would be the only media player with which this would happen.
For anyone interested in the details, my current PocketShield settings are as follows:
LOCKING OPTIONS:
Power off when lock: Disabled
If wakes up, power off in 20 secs: Disabled
Disable hardware keys: Enabled
When phone starts ringing: Keep keys disabled
Do not lock on external power: Enabled
UNLOCKING OPTIONS:
With light: Enabled
With finger slide: Enabled
With movement gestures: Disabled
Round center button: Disabled
On stylus out: Enabled
Produce vibration feedback: Disabled
Application permissions: Pocket Player
Hello,
Its something on how PocketPlayer internally performs the screen off operation, I think it’s a very particular (maybe not standard?) way to do it.
Some other applications that also perform “screen off” do not cause this effect on PocketShield, they all work “in peace” (you can confirm this by using for example HTorch or xdaShutdown or even the native “screen off” during call the HTC Phone has.
The only workaround I can suggest is to disable the “60 secs” timer on PocketPlayer and rely on the “20 secs power off” of PocketShield together with the Application Permissions you already have set. This way, if your device turns on by any event, PS will do screen off after 20 seconds if no unlock is done. And if you want to manually screen off just press the power button. None of the mentioned will stop the player.
Regards
I'm using elfin running WM 6.1. The prob is that when i play a song in the audio manager and try to switch of the phone's display, the song stops playing. I used to do this in 6.0 and unfortunately this is not working in 6.1!(just to save power) Any thoughts on this?
bumpp... in no one's mind..?!!
Well... when the display goes off, the phone goes into a kind of "standby" mode, all in a effort to conserve battery power... even the wireless is turned off =)
dgcarter said:
Well... when the display goes off, the phone goes into a kind of "standby" mode, all in a effort to conserve battery power... even the wireless is turned off =)
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the reason why i posted this doubt is that, when i was using 6.0, the audio used to play even when the backlight is off.. now this is not happening in 6.1..
Yes, audio usually stops playing when the screen is off, its normal.
Some programs like coreplayer allow you to go the menu and press on the key that says, Turn off backlight, which will allow the music to continue to play.
If you use the Onyx ROMS, press and hold the power button and click on backlight.