I'm running into a usability issue with PocketShield on the Touch HD.
I use Pocket Player for audio book listening quite a bit. Pocket Player has an option to turn off the display after 60 seconds to conserve battery power, while still playing the audio. After I installed PocketShield, it was initially turning off my device every time Pocket Player turned off the screen. (So the audio was stopping too.) I then added Pocket Player to the "application permissions" in PocketShield, so that the device is not locked while Pocket Player is loaded. That prevented the turn-off problem.
But, now, PocketShield is effectively preventing Pocket Player from turning off the screen. Any time Pocket Player times out after 60 seconds and turns off the screen, the screen goes off for only a split second, only to come right back on again. (I know that this is like a power cycle for the device, because if I leave a menu in Pocket Player open--like I sometimes do with the seek menu, to be able to rewind quickly, if I have to, while listening--the menu is closed when the screen comes on again.) Of course, this now means that, as long as PocketShield is on, the screen is always on while using Pocket Player, which multiplies battery usage by a factor of five or more, naturally.
The only workaround that I can think of is to turn PocketShield off (or "disable" it) any time I'll use Pocket Player, and turn it back on after I'm done. This is hardly convenient, and it leaves the door open for forgetting to turn PocketShield back on and ending up with pocket dialing again and all sorts of unintended button use while in my pocket, which completely defeats the purpose of using PocketShield. I look through the settings in PocketShield and I can't see any that would hold any hope in helping me with this problem.,
Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know of a workaround? I doubt that Pocket Player would be the only media player with which this would happen.
For anyone interested in the details, my current PocketShield settings are as follows:
LOCKING OPTIONS:
Power off when lock: Disabled
If wakes up, power off in 20 secs: Disabled
Disable hardware keys: Enabled
When phone starts ringing: Keep keys disabled
Do not lock on external power: Enabled
UNLOCKING OPTIONS:
With light: Enabled
With finger slide: Enabled
With movement gestures: Disabled
Round center button: Disabled
On stylus out: Enabled
Produce vibration feedback: Disabled
Application permissions: Pocket Player
Hello,
Its something on how PocketPlayer internally performs the screen off operation, I think it’s a very particular (maybe not standard?) way to do it.
Some other applications that also perform “screen off” do not cause this effect on PocketShield, they all work “in peace” (you can confirm this by using for example HTorch or xdaShutdown or even the native “screen off” during call the HTC Phone has.
The only workaround I can suggest is to disable the “60 secs” timer on PocketPlayer and rely on the “20 secs power off” of PocketShield together with the Application Permissions you already have set. This way, if your device turns on by any event, PS will do screen off after 20 seconds if no unlock is done. And if you want to manually screen off just press the power button. None of the mentioned will stop the player.
Regards
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Does anyone know how to toggle the screen on and off not using windows media player. thanks
using the spb pocket plus actions (can be assocated with hardware buttons)
How do I make it STAY off?
when I skip tracks with my bluetooth headset it seems to pop back on. Of course by now the phone is in my pocket so thats pointless. Just wastes battery and makes it hot
search software called "screenoff"
i just assign it to one of the hard button
My phone is always waking up for odd reasons (AVRCP commands, switching in and out of roaming, etc...), and I can't seem to get the darned thing to stay OFF.
Music A2DP streaming is the biggest deal to me, because not only will the device wake up when I press a remote command (on my AVRCP headset), it will also keep the device backlight on indefinitely. This is clearly shortening my battery.
I tried Slide2Unlock, and have it set to shut off the display if no activity for 5 sec., but the problem is that Slide2Unlock appears to not notice when it is woken up, and just sits there without turning the screen back off again! (a simple screen press brings Slide2U back to life, and then it will toggle the screen... but this defeats the purpose!)
There must be SOMETHING I'm missing here... doesn't anyone else have this problem???
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
Maybe it depends on the player you're using? With Coreplayer, my phone's screen just flashes on and off quickly when it receives an AVRCP command.
Still doesn't explain the roaming thing though.
xeno1 said:
I have 2 things for you. The first, is if you're using WM6 that's a known issue and unchecking the today timeout in start-->settings-->today-->items tab should solve most of your problems. The second is a little program that I found (not sure where at , but it might have been on here) called screen off. Install it and then set it to a hardware button and it will allow you to turn just your screen off whenever you don't need it on.
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Yes, I'm using WM6 on a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul).
I don't currently timeout to the today screen, but I don't see how that would cause my problem really- I've heard people mention that before, so can anyone explain what difference that would make?
I already have a shortcut to screen toggle (wrote my own MortScript to do it). That's not a problem anyway since every media player can assign a button to toggle the screen- The problem is that it keeps turning the screen back on when a button is pressed no matter how many times I toggle!!
Plastriq, I've heard that coreplayer does that... that's how they deal with this problem. They're the only ones that have addressed it as far as I know, and I'm not about to pay for their app when I already have TCPMP and WMP for free.
I just can't believe that there haven't been more practical ways around this yet!
hi ;..
i'am looking for a very small MP3player that can play music if screen of my PDA is off ...
htc audio manager, not sure which version but one of the newer ones
Windows Media Player can.
i have MortPlayer set to shut the screen off after 10 seconds (time is adjustable), and while off, all buttons except the action button (in the middle of the d-pad) are disabled. the action button turns the screen back on and all buttons go back to working as normal. i do this so i can throw the phone in my pocket and not worry about buttons (screen or hardware) getting hit, but i can also feel the action (which becomes the pause/play button when the phone wakes) without having to take the phone out of my pocket.
I have stock Telus ROM and have one of the options set in WMP to "toggle screen off". This previously worked and would completely turn the display ONLY off, allowing WMP to continue playing.
Additionally, I was using an EXE app called "ScreenOffArm", which would do the same thing in any setting (IE: listening to streamin music).
NOW, with both of these tools the display only dims to about 50% rather than turn off completely like it did before.
Any ideas, suggestions what may have caused this malfunction to happen? In Settings/ System/Power/ Backlight I have "Auto Adjust Backlight" checked and in Advanced I have "turn backlight off" unchecked and "turn off device" set to one minute. These settings have not changed.
Lee
screen only dims when playing music
I have the same problem on my TYTN II... when playing music either WMP or HTC Audio Manager the screen only dims. Side power button only dims and will NOT shut screen off from any application while music playing. The button works when music is not playing or headphones not plugged in. I even tried my bluetooth stereo headset and same problem while playing music.
I tried other apps like SPB PocketPlus (screen toggle) and PSshutXP as well as a few other suggested "fixes" with no success. The results are the same.
This used to work (side power button) but after installing some apps I noticed this problem. Unfortunately can't pinpoint exactly when it started. Not sure if they are the culprits. Apps that were installed...
walking hotspot
vsdraw
phonex
pocket mechanic
miriam webster
I also unistalled Phonex because I thought it was causing my phone to shutdown but later found out my battery is heading for the graveyard (almost 1.5yrs). I later reinstalled Phonex.
I have spent at least 10 solid hours over the past week looking for a fix with no working solution. Anyways... anybody with a registry fix on this?
PS I did find a nice fix for photo quality during my search. Just thought I'd share that... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375101
I know this old and is a common problem but have searched Google, XDA-Developers, Xpansys and other forums without a working solution...
I have the TYTN II... when playing music either WMP or HTC Audio Manager the screen only dims. Side power button only dims and will NOT shut screen off from any application while music playing. The button works when music is not playing or headphones not plugged in. I even tried my bluetooth stereo headset and same problem while playing music.
I tried other apps like SPB PocketPlus (screen toggle), MortPlayer and PSshutXP with button assignments as well as a few other suggested "fixes" with no success. The results are the same. Even the power off buttons in these programs only dim my screen.
This used to work (side power button) but after installing some apps I noticed this problem. Unfortunately can't pinpoint exactly when it started. Not sure if they are the culprits. Apps that were installed...
walking hotspot
vsdraw
phonex
pocket mechanic
miriam webster
I also unistalled Phonex because I thought it was causing my phone to shutdown but later found out my battery is heading for the graveyard (almost 1.5yrs). I later reinstalled Phonex.
I did find a reg fix to keep music playing while off but without headset. Once a headset is plugged in or BT connected, then screen only dims.
wav1=0 in System\CurrentControlSet\...\Unattended key
UnattendedPlayback=1 in Software\Microsoft\Media Player\Preferences key
I have spent at least 12 solid hours over the past week looking for a fix with no working solution. I really don't want to resort to ROM flash since I may not be able to re-install some important apps. Anyways... anybody with a registry (or other) fix on this?
PLEEEEASE help!!! I travel intensively and listen to audio teachings while on the go.
TYTN II screen off solved!!!
Praise the Lord!!! found a solution that works! ...just can't remember the post anymore where I found this answer to give credit to the guy...
Well, just put this little screen saver .exe file on your device somewhere and then would be best to put a shortcut in the StartMenu. When you want to turn the screen off (i.e. during playback) then go to Start Menu and click the link. Works like a charm.
View attachment Scrsaver.zip
I use psShutXP to turn off my screen for problems like that. It does similar things, but also contains button to soft reset as well as turn off the screen.
coreplayer has the option built in and is a better player as well
you can assign "blank screen" to any hardware button
i assigned it to the space bar as i have one of my hardware buttons bring up the input panel
works with bluetooth and btaudiotoggle
if audio is the main goal...coreplayer should be your answer
i just use s2p (slide2play)
LOVE IT!!!!!
plus i use s2u (slide2unlock)
so when I start up my music.. hit the power button and music stays running but device turns off and locks... grab phone and hit power button you can control the player but not dial out or anything until you slide to unlock again....
screen only dims when playing music
The screensaver fix works but found out (in the dark) that the screen only goes black and not off. There is still a faint back light so some power is still being consumed. Has anyone found a registry fix?
All these other options listed in this post still only dim my screen while headphones plugged in. It works well when no headphones in use... There must be a registry key I can edit.