My device died a very, very odd death last night- I was running Word, opening a big word file, and tried to save it. The device crashed, telling me I didn't have enough memory.
I went to start, settings, system, memory, and I had a memory allocation slider again. Storage memory and program memory were devided about the way the ROM/RAM are- 3/2, but I could move the slider about and give myself more program memory or not. It also said wierd things, like saying I had -.06 MB of program memory availible, and to change the slider.
So, *cough*, I did. Then it hung again, and I couldn't leave the today screen, so I soft-reset it. I lost my word document, but I ended up with something else instead!
Now, instead of my Universal having the standard memory allocation, 43.72 MB of Storage total and 47.93 MB of Program total...
I have 43.72 MB of Storage... and 50.16 MB of Program.
No idea where it came from.
Any ideas, thoughts, helpful hints, suggestions?
Could you post some screenshots, please?
And what branding is your Universal?
It's an Imate Jasjar. I tried to get a digital camera snapshot of the screwed up wonky memory slider, (for obvious reasons), but this was at four in the morning and I didn't get a chance. I realize it's not as helpful as you (or I, for that matter) would have liked.
For some reason it doesn't take pictures at full resolution... but the meaning is clear enough.
Not sure how it can further help you, however.
Frankly, I'm not sure what to make of it. Normally, I would think nothing of it, but almost a full 2.5 MB simply appeared out of nowhere. I've used the device all day, and it seems to be working just fine, so...
I just wondered if anyone else had ran into this really odd problem. The word document wasn't abnormaly large or anything more than text, (125 KB, about), and I was running just... magic button, the phone program, and word itself.
I have just checked my O2 XDA Exec and I have 43.72 of storage memory and 49.93 of program memory which is pretty close to what you have.
I'm not disputing it's not possible. I've seen other memory amounts there as well. But for some reason it suddenly changed, and I have no idea why or how.
I don't mind, certainly... I wish more space would magically appear in my storage memory!
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For some reason my xda 11 says i have 91.68 mb allocated for storage
yet the last time i looked at it there was only 28mb in use.
I have no pictures or sound files no extra programmes and have only 2.2 mb of data above 64K. I've closed down all my active programs and performed a soft reset yet nothing seems to help.
Any ideas??
I'm a bit confused about your terminology here - I read it as you have 98MB allocated, 28MB in use, and therefore 70MB free - does this correspond with what you're getting in the Settings-Memory applet?
I'm confused because I can't see a problem with the above - although it only leaves you with 29ishMB allocated for program execution it's a perfectly reasonable config. You can change allocation between storage and program by sliding the slider. You probably know all this, I've probably got the wrong end of the stick.
Looks like a bit has gone somewhere, I have 126.03 to begin with, you are out by a bit as yours only adds up to 119.68.
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ok sorry if i'm not explaining myself properly
i am currently looking my memory settings
which tells me i have 91.69 MB in use for storage leaving 10.19 free
and 18.06 MB in use for program and only 6.09 free
now what concerns me is that having been through file explorer i don't know what is taking up so much storage memory especially as i have no voice or picture files or have got any additional programs
firstly there is insufficent memory to run transcriber properly and secondly what happened to increase my storage use from 28mb to 91 when i hadn't even used it.
(i haven't even connected my xda to the net yet)
Any comments would be appreciated
cheers john
Hmm 90odd MB in use is indeed strange. Are you sure there are no large files anywhere? Have you installed anything recently? Have you made a recording and forgotten to stop it manually so that it filled the available memory (although you'd still find this as a large file). It's not normal for PPC apps to take up such amounts of storage, and without a directory listing or access to your device it's unfortunately going to be pretty much impossible to work out whats wrong.
Incidentally. storage vs program memory allocation can be automatically adjusted by the device itself if it needs to.
Check for camera files, or do a backup and do a hard reset back to factory settings, then look at it from there and check it as you install programs/files.
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Thanks for that guys I can't explain it either
i've got 02 data support looking in to it and they're stuck as well so they are escalating it ie sending it to someone else. I should hear back today or tomorrow.
i guess in the end i'll probably have to do a hard reset. I'm just worried that it might come back or i have a virus even though they don't exist on ppcs at the moment.
i want to get a 1gb storage card any tips ?
ps thanks again if you ever get arrested (not that you will) send me a private message and i'll look after you. (I'm in the old bailey tomorrow on a murder case)
i installed opera mini beta, the java one. i also installed touchpal keyboard and pocketcm keyboard (both on my SD card) and now my storage memory for the device is down 5MB. i uninstalled opera and it went up a little, seeing as how that is the thing that installed on the device. am i missing something? did it keep files somewhere? or is it one of the keyboards that is on my SD card somehow doing it?
possibly the shortcut files and icons
well i uninstalled one keyboard because i didn't like it that much and i got my memory back. i was just so confused cause i installed it on my card and it took up so much memory on the device.
wow, that's crazy, man. Have you done a pagepool change?
I don't get the whole memory thing for the Wing. I had installed many of my extra programs onto my storage card and got about 21mb of program memory and about the same in device storage memory. I ended up doing a clear storage and decided to install everything (live search, tcmp, flashplugin) onto the device that I had on the storage card, except for games. Now I have 26mb of program memory and 21mb of device storage left.
not complaining, though
something must be terribly wrong for me, ever since i got the phone my program memory has been 15MB or less when you start the phone, and just continues to drop. my storage memory i have like 8MB left, but im trying to put everything on the card, i only have a few pictures and videos (all taken with the built in camera) and contacts. i didn't install anything directly unless it had to be.
so i should do the pool change you think?i turned my phone on maybe 5 minutes ago, i have 13.34MB of program memory left and i haven't opened anything. i do have HTC Home, a thing that stops the "Message sent" thing, and softkeychanger on the device, i don't know if those effect program memory since i assumer the last two just edit the registry.
same here
Program memory drops thoughout the day to about 1MB from 15MB or so when I restart the phone. Can't even use camera or WMP without rebooting. What's the deal?
The number one thing I need to do here is thank the xda dev Herald forum, and a lot of the people who have contributed. I learned a lot of valuable information in the last 48 hours of immersing myself here trying to fix my Wing.
However, I'm at my ropes end, and can't figure out what to do.
I've had my Wing for a 5 weeks. Took some getting used to (had a couple of Dash's before that) but the phone had potential. I had installed a single game (Soduku) and was on my way.
Fast forward to 2 weeks ago. I start getting a message I'm sure you all are familiar with:
*Storage Memory - Your phone is running low on free storage space. Delete old or unused items to create more space.*
Now, after years of using the Dash, getting such a message after only 5 weeks seemed incredible. I went through the cleaned Temp Internet files, MMS messages, and whotnot, to no avail. After about three days it just went away on its own.
This brings us to three days ago. My phone just starts locking up on its own. I go from never having soft reset it before to having to do so almost a dozen times in 2 hours. This is when I start my search online for solutions. I find this place. I start learning about ROMs, RUUs, SPLs, registry tweaks, .cabs, some of this stuff I knew about from my Dash, some of it new.
Two days ago that Storage Memory message came back. Followed by a new one:
*Storage Memory - Storage memory is critically low. If the storage memory is not increased, other programs may not be able to start. Use File Explorer to delete files that are no longer needed or move some files to a storage card. *
I redouble my efforts. Throw Battery Status on there, and DL the files for the Page Pool change. This did not work, as I can't run .cabs or .dll files from my phone. I don't know if this is a PPC specific thing, but that's how I always installed stuff on my Dash; just run the .cab from File Explorer.
However, on this phone, when I try that, I get:
* itsutils.dll - There is no application associated with "itsutils". Run the application first, then open the file from within the application *
Same thing with .cab files.
This brings us to today. I can soft reset the phone and I get a Storage Memory message before the phone even finished loading the home screen. I can't go 90 seconds without getting a Storage Memory message. I deleted the one program I had installed (from the storage card), changed the registry to save Temp Internet Files to the Storage Card, nothing.
My Memory is:
Storage TOTAL 31.44 MB IN USE 31.44 MB FREE 0.0MB
Program TOTAL 47.89 MB IN USE 35.36 MB FREE 12.53 MB
I can no longer do anything useful on this phone. Text messages won't send. Half of my programs don't open. I can receiver calls but not make them. I went into the Remove Programs part of the Settings; that window is blank, and where is says Total storage memory available, its also blank. All T-Mo tech support can do is tell me to hard reset the phone.
I went through and deleted all of my text messages (about 2400 total), with absolutely NO CHANGE in memory. Every time I touch my phone, I get a Storage Memory message, unless one has already popped up on its own. Sometimes they stack on each other, too.
The only thing on this phone are my contacts, and Battery Status.
I'm about at the end of my patience here. My blood pressure has gone up 15 points in the last three days, and I forsee this phone getting very familiar with my 21" ASP followed by some Zippo fluid, in about a day.
Some basic stats:
WM6 Pro
CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)
ROM 4.26.531.1 WWE
OMAP850 201MHz (clocked to 247)
Model HERA110
IPL 4.26.0002
SPL 4.26.0000
That's all I can think of. I'm going to thank in advance anyone who even reads this, for taking some time out of your day. If you can help me, even better.
Cheers
By what i can read you are probably using a stock rom. considering you are running low on storage space 1st i would recommend use one of the BIGSTORAGE or Light Roms. Most of them have a big storage data and a lower Page Pool and less unnecessary programs. As a Wing user for over a year once i have flashed a custom ROM i have never had a low memory message. Been trying different once and using Open Touch 7.7 now. Not much of Storage Memory but i have a 4Gig memory card so i dont rly need it.
Also its a good practice to use the task manager to shut down programs if u run low on Program memory.
Thats about what i can think of for now.
Believe me, the Wing is a rly good phone.
Edit: Here are some Higher Storage Roms that i have used:
ttran001's Light Roms
ivanmmj's ROMs - 1
ivanmmj's ROMs - 2
Yeah, stock ROM.
I've been trying to DL another, and Hard SPL; every time I do it downloads about 900K and then the DL stops like its complete. But thats a story for another time.
I realized (and cant figure out why) that I can't actually delete any text messages. I delete them, and for whatever reason, I'll have to soft reset the phone, and then they're all back again.
I managed to get into the Remove Programs, and deleted EVERYTHING. Bought myself 2.2MB of Storage memory.
45 mins later, of the phone just sitting on my table, it was gone. Storage Memory is just back at 0.0MB.
I'm about to just hard reset and call it a day.
I'm using "JustMe" Ivan's ROM. A lot software installed. Some softwares in main memory. Because needs install there. But still i have 47,53 MB storage and 15 MB program memory. Thanks Ivan
For some reason, I don't see too many complaints about low memory issues - yet I have always had problems with my RAM.
I have almost all of my programs installed on my SD card to try reduce any of my memory usage - but if I run PIE, MSN Messenger, or try to play music, I almost always have low memory messages come up.
I usually have one program running in the background - Slide to Unlock - but as far as I know its not that memory intensive?
Any insight on how I can fix this?
Thanks!
Are you running an elf or an elfin? If your not sure.....go to start-->settings-->system-->device information-->hardware. What does your RAM size read? If its 64MB its an elf.....if it says 128MB its an elfin. Your saying you've installed all your applications on the storage card. How much free space do you have for program memory on your phone? Your phones needs free memory in order to run applications too. Perhaps its running low on that end? Two things you should do:
1. Move any extra files, photos, videos or anything else that you might have saved on the phone memory to the storage card. Use activesync. Its faster that way.
2. Clear out your browser history and temp files. This could most probably be your culprit as they take up space too...and you don't necessarily see this upfront. Goto Start-->Internet Explorer-->Menu-->Tools-->Options-->Memory Tab.
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2. Clear out your browser history and temp files. This could most probably be your culprit as they take up space too...and you don't necessarily see this upfront. Goto Start-->Internet Explorer-->Menu-->Tools-->Options-->Memory Tab.
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I've been having "Insufficient memory" errors while trying to run SpB Backup, and have deleted all sorts of applications, but nothing seemed to free up enough memory. Then I tried your advice, and everything is working as it should!
Thanks!!
I have an elf - usually when I close all of my processes, except my stumble to unlock, I'll have approx. 15mb/47 free in my program memory. 10/28 of my storage space is free.
I've tried to clear all of my temp files... even made it so that all my temp files/PIE files are put on my storage card through SK tools, but still have the same issues.
As soon as I run my HTC music player with the one or two background apps, it almost always pops up with memory issues. Browsing with PIE is almost impossible for any period longer than 5 minutes.
I've tried it with several configurations and I always have the same results, even if I have no background processes - I still have the same issues.
Are you using a cooked ROM? Come to think of it, I never had many problems with the original shipped ROM. I was normally running S2U2, PocketMusic, Opera Mini and SpbMobileShell back then.
You mean to say you can't even run one application at a time without running out of RAM? Soft reset. And if you use SKTools like you say you do, try running Free Up RAM, select all options.
In your shoes I'd probably move everything I want to storage card, (you should want more than 10mb storage) try a hard reset and install my most used apps again. Oh, and what is your PagePool size? Try here to find out about that. It should be 4mb.
Your primary problem is indeed the fact that you are running out of space on your phone. 15mb for program memory especially on heavy usage is quite insufficient. Especially if your going to be multi tasking and running several applications at once. I would move ALL my installed programs and anything else I may be able to get my hands on, to the storage card. Try to squeeze out atleast 25-30mb out of your program memory. This should give your phone some more breathing space.
This might be to use of you to try it out.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
hi
I had the same problem before but now my touch runs fine now & haven't got any issues till now. Use advanced task manager and pocket mechanic. These application will keep ur pocketpc in good shape.
Very good, Thanks.
strange problem with the phones memory being full
seems to be loading kb files on but takes up mb space, just loaded a 3.5kn file but took up 30 mb space
any help would be great
Full because you have probably installed every app onto the internal memory. Reinstall them onto the SD card.
While you are at it, read this thread for tips on how to maximise your memory space....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
Also use this..http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all if you ever need to find anything here on XDA.
WB
il explain a bit more. i dont have a HD2 im trying to sort this for a friend, i do have the touch pro 2 and i have never had to install apps on the SD card, i must have 30/40 apps on it (games TC resco etc ) and i still have loads of space
my memory reads
storage total 283mb used 166 free 117
program total 188 used 110 free 76
i have never got anywhwere near full
my mates HD2 is new and he has added very little in terms of apps(1 or 2 at the most ) but when i got to it today it only had about 35/40 mb free
i added the 4 short cut cab instead of the standard 3 short cut tabs and it used 30 mb of memory
something does seem right with this or is it that the HD2 short of memory
combat goofwing said:
il explain a bit more. i dont have a HD2 im trying to sort this for a friend, i do have the touch pro 2 and i have never had to install apps on the SD card, i must have 30/40 apps on it (games TC resco etc ) and i still have loads of space
my memory reads
storage total 283mb used 166 free 117
program total 188 used 110 free 76
i have never got anywhwere near full
my mates HD2 is new and he has added very little in terms of apps(1 or 2 at the most ) but when i got to it today it only had about 35/40 mb free
i added the 4 short cut cab instead of the standard 3 short cut tabs and it used 30 mb of memory
something does seem right with this or is it that the HD2 short of memory
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have you been downloading any stuff from internet / opera browser?
The HD2 is short of memory but it shoudn't be a problem having some stuff on SD card.
Cheers,
LEE
lee1980 said:
have you been downloading any stuff from internet / opera browser?
The HD2 is short of memory but it shoudn't be a problem having some stuff on SD card.
Cheers,
LEE
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The HD2's shortness of memory is only relative. It still has 145MB free Storage after a hard reset, which is a huge increase on previous generations of WinMo phone before the HD, and TD models.
It is probable that users are inadvertantly storing photos and videos in main memory rather than the SD card. Add this to the effects of the Album and Browser caches and the memory can get filled up.
C-G: There is no way that a simple tweak installation would cause this problem. Either your friend has failed to notice something else, or there is some sort of major problem with the device, or somwe software he has installed.
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The HD2's shortness of memory is only relative. It still has 145MB free Storage after a hard reset, which is a huge increase on previous generations of WinMo phone before the HD, and TD models.
It is probable that users are inadvertantly storing photos and videos in main memory rather than the SD card. Add this to the effects of the Album and Browser caches and the memory can get filled up.
C-G: There is no way that a simple tweak installation would cause this problem. Either your friend has failed to notice something else, or there is some sort of major problem with the device, or somwe software he has installed.
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theres no photos videos etc taking it up, i check all that i removed shazam that it saidd was 50 mb but only freed up about 5 mb
as for the app i installed it myself on his phone and it went from 40mb free space to 11 mb free in one go very strange
You are right, it does seem strange, and unrelated to other threads on this issue.
If you (or your friend) are really adventures you could give MTTY a go. It sort of formats the internal memory. After that flash a fresh (shipped) rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422
Combat,
Its me again. In the thread I pointed you to it also tells you how to move the album and opera caches to storage card. Have you tried these tips?
If you do and you still have problems then backup the data on the device, do a hard reset, then on reboot, check the available memory and use that as a startpoint (compare it to the public specs to make sure you are there or thereabouts). Then reinstall all your apps onto the external storage card (not the internal memory) and see what happens.
Oh, one more thing before you do all this; install Showcase, which is a task manager, and see what programmes are running in the background that you thought were closed. These eat memory and can cause the symptoms you allude to.
Whatever you do, DON't go playing with MTTY. Its an advanced tool and you can do some serious damage if you don't know what you are doing.
I am confident that if you follow the steps here you will solve your problems.
If yo don't, return the device for an exchange.
WB
...i had problems with internal memory, i think were problems of programs cache like htc album, opera...i tried with SKTOOLS for cleaning temporal archives and this work ok
thanks for all the help i have pointed my mate in thedirection of this thread , and once tried i will post some feedback that may help others
thanks again
Are you really sure. As wacky.banana suggested, I would return the device as faulty first.
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theres no photos videos etc taking it up, i check all that i removed shazam that it saidd was 50 mb but only freed up about 5 mb
as for the app i installed it myself on his phone and it went from 40mb free space to 11 mb free in one go very strange
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As the others have said, there is something seriously wrong here
Shazam is actually less than 1MB in size, though saved tags may take some space.
If this is showing as 50MB and it isn't being recovered there is something drastically wrong.
still trying to sort this out yesterday my mate did a hard reset so he could start from scratch to add things and see how the memory goes
he no informs me that since the hard reset he has lost camera, keyboard functions etc dont have full details yet but this isnt normal, i hard reset my TP2 a couple of times a month flashing new roms then doing hard resets and its ok
any advice would be great
thanks
What version ROM are you using in your device?
WB
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What version ROM are you using in your device?
WB
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couldnt tell you its not mine think its the stock europe rom unbranded, why i cant see what rom would do this after a hard reset
im going to get him to download the new 1.43 rom and install that later on unless anyone can suggest other wise
i have not know a hard reset result in the loss of functions
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...im going to get him to download the new 1.43 rom
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You mean version 1.48, which was what I was going to suggest but you are ahead of me here. Even if it's already on the device might be worth re-flashing.
Let us know how you get on.
WB
combat goofwing said:
couldnt tell you its not mine think its the stock europe rom unbranded, why i cant see what rom would do this after a hard reset
im going to get him to download the new 1.43 rom and install that later on unless anyone can suggest other wise
i have not know a hard reset result in the loss of functions
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Tell him to stop messing around and return this as a faulty device
He's now had 2 major issues with different aspects of the phone- memory allocation and now camera problems.
It is likely that there is some sort of fault with the memory chip itself leading to internal memory errors. This may also explain the other hardware issues if the device is trying to load these services into an unaddressable memory location.
Hello, I am a newbie, but one frustrating factor I've been dealing with is that there is virtually no information on the "cheaper" tablets. I have a ZEEPAD I purchased from Amazon. It is a lot of fun for a VERY small price.
However, now I have a memory problem. After resetting the tablet, it shows that my internal memory is full, even though there are NO apps installed. I cannot install anything from the market; all installs fail because the tablet detects or thinks there is no memory available.
I have an old CRUZ tablet, and I can get into the program by holding down the + volume when pressing the power button, but that does not work with this tablet.
In the "info" section of the tablet, it states that this is a TWD_MID tablet, android 4.0.4. There has to be something I can try before I have to ship this back to China. Please be understanding of my "newbie" status.......
I have the same issue with mine! Weird, wonder what the deal is? I hope someone with some knowledge of this can help us because it is an fun tab especially for the price..
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To the two previous posters- this is the forum for the HTC HD2 so you won't get any relevant advice for your tablets.
Find the correct part of XDA Developers and repeat your query.