Hi,
I am trying out AKU2 with Push e-mail for my organisation. I want to implement a security policy that forces a PIN number and locks the screen after a period of no use. All works fine, so far so good.
However when the device is actively in use for something like tomtom GPS, even when powered externally. the screen lock cuts in requiring you to enter the PIN whilst driving, which clearly makes it unusable for GPS or really even as a carphone (although voice dialling on a bluetooth headset works even with the screen locked)
Does anyone know of a solution to prevent the lock kicking in whilst on external power?
Thanks
Richard
I have the same problem here. It makes TomTom unuseable after 30 min. Mostly I'll drive a little further than that! :wink:
Does anyone else has this problem, and hopefully an solution?
This is another aspect of the upgrade that I hate (in addition to the fact that you can't get vibrating notifications of emails while the device is in standby).
It's a problem for a lot of people....
I've updated my Universal to the AKU ROM and I'm having the same problem with TomTom, iGuidance, and OncourseNavigator (aka. Navigon). I don't know of a solution yet. I'm hoping someone will write a little application that will allow the user to specify "if program 'a' is running, prevent the screen lock. When program 'a' shuts down (i.e. exits), then re-start the timer for the screen lock").
I'd be willing to pay a lot of money for an application like that right now....
Same Problem
Same problem here in the german QTek ROM.
What about collecting a bug-list (No vibration on push email, Lock screen problem....) in the forum and sending this to QTek?
Re: It's a problem for a lot of people....
weatheryoko said:
I've updated my Universal to the AKU ROM and I'm having the same problem with TomTom, iGuidance, and OncourseNavigator (aka. Navigon). I don't know of a solution yet. I'm hoping someone will write a little application that will allow the user to specify "if program 'a' is running, prevent the screen lock. When program 'a' shuts down (i.e. exits), then re-start the timer for the screen lock").
I'd be willing to pay a lot of money for an application like that right now....
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Is'nt it possible to make that same application to force a screenlock by pressing a hardkey? (on my work the phone is laying on my desk and i dont like that someone read my mail, msn or hotmail.
When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock and there is no problem anymore when using Tom TOm
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weatheryoko said:
I've updated my Universal to the AKU ROM and I'm having the same problem with TomTom, iGuidance, and OncourseNavigator (aka. Navigon). I don't know of a solution yet. I'm hoping someone will write a little application that will allow the user to specify "if program 'a' is running, prevent the screen lock. When program 'a' shuts down (i.e. exits), then re-start the timer for the screen lock").
I'd be willing to pay a lot of money for an application like that right now....
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Is'nt it possible to make that same application to force a screenlock by pressing a hardkey? (on my work the phone is laying on my desk and i dont like that someone read my mail, msn or hotmail.
When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock and there is no problem anymore when using Tom TOm
>>When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock
The problem with AKU2 policy is that the administrator of the exchange server decides whether you use the automatic screenlock and how long it locks after, the length of the password etc etc... The settings are greyed out after the 1st time you connect to your exchange server... so you no longer have a choice on the automatic screenlock...
R
rich.simpson said:
>>When there is an application which can do that, i don't have to use the automatic screenlock
The problem with AKU2 policy is that the administrator of the exchange server decides whether you use the automatic screenlock and how long it locks after, the length of the password etc etc... The settings are greyed out after the 1st time you connect to your exchange server... so you no longer have a choice on the automatic screenlock...
R
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And it even stays like that after you have deleted the exchangeserver!!!! :evil:
So watch out trying to connect to your companies server with your mobile device. I think a hardreset is the only way to get rid of this annoying pin. :evil:
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Hiya All,
Some serious thinking came across my mind couple of days ago...what if my device will get lost ? Any person that will find it will be able to view anything on my device such as contacts, calendar, notes and even use the phone.
Of course there is an option to lock the device but who the h*ll want to unlock it everytime he is starting to use it ?
What I was thinking is to send a restructive sms message or anything alike that will make a HR to the device or lock it with long enough password to avoid hacking.
Anyone has encoutered this kind of app that can make the above request ?
Any other usefull thoughts on this subject ?
Thanks in advance,
Bright Star
You could install One-Pass. It locks the PPC until a password is entered. WIth this software installed, no one could get into your PPC. They could get what ever was on your storage card, though.
I have an application I am in final beta stages that will hard reset the ppc,
based on a user defined code being sent via sms.
inane, does it hard reset when anyone sends the sms or does it recognise only certain numbers? Last thing I would want is my mates finding out about the message and sending it to me for a laugh!
There's an app that comes with the WM5 SDK that allows you to lock ur device via SMS but obviously you'd need WM5 :wink:
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What I was thinking is to send a restructive sms message or anything alike that will make a HR to the device...
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Bright Star,
There is a commercial application available that does exactly that. It is named PDAKill. The developer is ScpSoft (http://www.scpsoft.com).
Here is a brief blurb from their website:
PDAKill is designed to protect users of PDA's from loss/theft of their devices. It allows users to send a predefined SMS message which will hard reset the PDA, deleting the user data (including the storage area* and Storage Card which eliminates any files surviving the hard reset) returning the device to its original factory settings.
You can purchase it from Handango for about $15.00. I've never used it so I can't provide you with any other comment. I just recalled reading about it.
- Peter
PDAKill
Thanks alot Peter,
This looks like the s/w I've been looking after.
I'll buy it and give it a try.
Bright S.
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Bright Star said:
Thanks alot Peter,
This looks like the s/w I've been looking after.
I'll buy it and give it a try.
Bright S.
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Better back up your data first...
I still like one-pass better. It locks the screen with your user information showing. This allows an honest person who finds your PDA to call you and collect the generous reward you offer.
THe only way to get out of the 1-pass system is to do a hard reset, which kills the internal memory and storage.
nedge2k said:
There's an app that comes with the WM5 SDK that allows you to lock ur device via SMS but obviously you'd need WM5 :wink:
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Do you know where I can get this, I have the BlueAngel with WM5 and would love to use a program like this. I am sure that it would require a client install and the sms to the device would require some type of code.
Thanks
it would be cool if there would be a low level application which could reflash the boot rom with zero's and somehow disable bootloader mode and then preform a soft reset. the device could then be thrown into a trash without a service in a repair center... :twisted:
stevedebi said:
You could install One-Pass. It locks the PPC until a password is entered. WIth this software installed, no one could get into your PPC. They could get what ever was on your storage card, though.
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Do you know who wrote One-Pass?
http://www.omegaone.com/pass/default.htm
FYI it can be nicely resource hacked to make it match your own theme
I'll try to post a screenshot some time.
V
But how would you know which number you send the SMS to? You will never now what SIM card the "thief" is using!
kta said:
But how would you know which number you send the SMS to? You will never now what SIM card the "thief" is using!
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maybe it could send you a message first after every sim card change? to see the numbers
no need to install One-Pass, just set the "prompt if device unused" to 0 minutes, then it will always ask for password.
Man if we could get a program like this it would be great (SMS Lock), and more than likely if someone finds your phone they are not going to know what to do with it...
dwd said:
no need to install One-Pass, just set the "prompt if device unused" to 0 minutes, then it will always ask for password.
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What if they do a reset? I don't think the password is in effect at that time. You could require a password (PIN) for the phone, but I find that to be a hassle.
With one-pass, the phone won't complete the soft reset unless the password is entered.
It also allows you to program the buttons for a "quick password".
not to get too offtopic but I for a start would NEVER put important data on an mobile device. It's risky enough with some docs on my notebook but those are now going to be transferred to an remote encrypted server with an stable VPN connection.
PDAs aren't secure. PERIOD. I never store any important data on my Magician. The worst thing you'll find are the text messages to my gf, hehe. Btw i'm I the only one concerned about losing an € 500 device ?
Liking the boom-on-SMS idea tough. Will prob never use it. I use deltalock to lock the screen of my Magician. 9 of 10 ppl are too stupid to figure out how to unlock it. hehehe.
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not to get too offtopic but I for a start would NEVER put important data on an mobile device. It's risky enough with some docs on my notebook but those are now going to be transferred to an remote encrypted server with an stable VPN connection.
PDAs aren't secure. PERIOD. I never store any important data on my Magician. The worst thing you'll find are the text messages to my gf, hehe. Btw i'm I the only one concerned about losing an € 500 device ?.
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hence
will also use gps capability when availible
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no more lost device!
Hi All,
I set my 8125 up to synch with my work exchange server in order to keep my calendar and contacts up to date.
My work server enforces a device based password now frequently when I go to access the device I have to put in a password before it unlocks and I can access it's functions.
Anyone know how to disable the password requirement?
I am not talking about removing the password to connect to the exchange server, just the enforced password to access the device itself after it has been sitting idle for an hour or so.
I figure it has probably set registry values to control the password type, size and frequency it has to be entered as well as enabling/disabling it.
Anyone have any knowledge of how this is implemented on WM5 with push email?
http://www.zenyee.com/
Bypass push email password
Perect!
Thanks
Could someone post a more direct answer to this question? I can't find anything on zenyee to address this....
Thanks!
EDIT: Never mind - I found the "Zenyee.com Stay Unlock.zip" utility here: http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030&page=2. (attached in case it disappears again!)
StayUnlock
More info can be found on this at
http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030
Zenyee StayUnlock worked fine for me until I upgraded to an 8525. Now I am not sure if it is working or not. Once it informed me that the security policy was being applied but I have not seen it since and occasionally when I turn on the phone I have to enter a password. It happens every time if I power the phone all the way off and then on again.
I just modified the lock timeout to be 24 hours so that might help.
In order to access that setting you may have to modify a registry key to make the option availabe. I had to do this on my 8125 but the 8525 already had the key set. Details of that key change are in the same thread of the link above.
Working on 8925?
Can anyone get this thing to work on an 8925?
I installed the Cab Zenyee.comStayUnlock.cab
I see StayUnlock in the Startup Items Folder.
I see Zenyee.comStayUnlock in the "Remove Programs" window.
I have checked my registry and it is already set to 1.
I still get the prompt for password every 20 minutes.
Do I need to do anything besides install this cab (since my registry is already set properly)? I keep reading that people are "modifying the lock timeout". What does that mean and how do you do it? Heck, changing this to once every 24 hrs is MUCH better than every 20 minutes.
Robert
Nevermind. I just found out where the "password settings" was. (settings > personal tab > lock). I've set that to 24 hours. We'll see if Stay Unlock keeps that from prompting me every 24 hrs.
Robert
I installed the .cab file that I found on here and I was very pleased with the results
I then cooked it into my ROM and am still pleased
One thing that was slightly nagging me however was the notification you get when the policy is reapplied. For some reason our IT dept have configured the policy to refresh every hour, which I can obviously bypass with this excellent utility. Unfortunately every hour there is a notification and a (slightly) annoying bleep as the utility kicks in. Not that noticable but still a bit annoying.
Anyway I went direct to the site (http://www.zenyee.com/) of the developer and found a newer version (2.0) that operates in silent mode by default
Excellent..... Hope our IT dept don't find out
ADB100 said:
I installed the .cab file that I found on here and I was very pleased with the results
I then cooked it into my ROM and am still pleased
One thing that was slightly nagging me however was the notification you get when the policy is reapplied. For some reason our IT dept have configured the policy to refresh every hour, which I can obviously bypass with this excellent utility. Unfortunately every hour there is a notification and a (slightly) annoying bleep as the utility kicks in. Not that noticable but still a bit annoying.
Anyway I went direct to the site (http://www.zenyee.com/) of the developer and found a newer version (2.0) that operates in silent mode by default
Excellent..... Hope our IT dept don't find out
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i personally would be more concerned about IT telling HR.
As an IT Admin i can say those policies are there as much to protect corporate info as to annoy end users.
Stay Unlocked
I've been using this little app for 2 years since my Kaiser days and I love it. Now they got a new version which doesn't prompt security at all!
deedee said:
i personally would be more concerned about IT telling HR.
As an IT Admin i can say those policies are there as much to protect corporate info as to annoy end users.
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That's true and reasonable, but at the same time you have no chance to modify the applied settings temporarily, even when it causes more trouble than maintains security. Just an example: You use your PDA for car navigation. Chances that it will be stolen while you are driving are extremely low, but it is very dangerous to enter a PIN every 15-20 minutes during driving. For these occasional situations it is very useful to override default policy settings and set PIN activation interval to several hours instead of minutes.
Completely agree on this. I could have lived with the lock policy when the device stayed unlocked when plugged in, but keying a PIN while driving should not be done.
I had the same issue before with Blackberry Connect. Last friday I switched to ActiveSync push synchronization and stumbled into the WM lockscreen issue.
Zenyee's tool seems (just using it for some hours) to work on WM 6.5.x (23xxx build) Energy ROM.
This is EXASPERATING !
The password screen pop up always after 1 mn without touching screen.
This is independant of the settings.
Is there a possibility to modify this behaviour ?
Thanks in advance.
do you use exchange push mail? policies can invoke password screen.
I spoke about the Universal password.
It appears even if you do nothing after 1 mn and even if you do anything except touching the screen.
If you watch TV it appears, if you watch video it appears, if you phone it appears...
Exasperating !
My previous XDA IIs didn't do that.
Vince
are you sure that you don't use the "password protect" in the settings???
You could always remove the password.....
Maybe it's something to do with both screen blanking and keyboard timeout settings. Not just one but 2 different settings.
Yes, I use the "password settings" and I want it, but I don't want the password screen which appear itself after one minute.
The setting is "0 minute".
I want it if I switch off the PDA but I don't want it itself as a "screensaver" after one minute !
Vince
Me too
Hi all, this is happening to me too. I've just installed 'Jwrightmcps Crossbow ROM Update 2.02.02 WWE', and the Universal asked me for a password when I configured push email (like it did under WM5).
However, unlike WM5, it now comes on after just a moment of inactivity - it also demands a password when the machine's been woken up by a phone call, meaning so far I've missed every call I've had, while I'm entering my PIN (infact, I'm worried that this PIN entering process is causing the call to hang up).
Any thoughts?
Many thanks in advance.
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
vangrieg said:
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
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through which connection ar eyou checking mail? wifi or celluar?
when your phone goes into standby, only celluar connection is active.the wifi is turned off (unless you change the registry or use aadvanced tool to maintain wifi connection while the phone is in standby).
buggybug0 said:
through which connection ar eyou checking mail? wifi or celluar?
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Cellular of course. I know that Wi-Fi doesn't work in standby.
Hi,
I've got the same problem. My X1 is configured to fetch mail through the data-connection (which remains open while in standby). But the mail is fetched only when I get the phone out of standby.
My version is the dutch unbranded version. Rom version: 1.02.937.3
vangrieg said:
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
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Hi,
I have the same issue with my recently purchased Raphael.
No email pop when the device is in standby mode.
My former phone (Hermes, WM6.0) had a totally different behaviour, retrieving emails at the configured interval, either through cellulafr or WiFi connection. It seemed that the scheduler was able to wake up the device, open the connection as appropriate, and pop the mail server. Then notification was issued as a sound alarm, LED blinking and/or screen pop-up.
Is the new behaviuor linked to WM6.1 or to a manufacturer specific setting?
Please can someone help to sort this out ?!?
HTC Touch Pro T7272 (Raphael)
ROM 1.90.406.5 FRE
Radio 1.02.25.19
I haven't been able to solve this issue. I doubt it's a WM6.1 bug because I haven't encountered it on my previous devices with the same operating system. So the firmware has something to do with it apparently.
I installed one of the push mail programs called Seven (www.seven.com), and checking mail in background works just fine for me now, but this is not a fix for the native client bug of course.
I accidentally deleted poutlook file. Can someone please upload it so I don't have to resort to hard resetting the phone? I have a lot installed on it.
Please.
Thanks.
same problem
I cannot get the mail client to check for mail every 30 minutes when it is in standby.
Anybody?
Same for me. Discovered this problem in the last few days after setting up my Yahoo account to collect every 15 mins. It seems to do it as soon as I wake the device.
Also tried setting up Peak and Off Peak times and the schedule box is greyed out.
I set up a fake exchange server to highlight it but Im not sure if the settings are universal or just for the fake server?
@vangrieg
Which seven product was it please?
How does this Seven work?
Surely there's a way to make it sync while in standby? It's almost like you can't receive a text or a phone call until you wake your device??!?!?!
Shetlander said:
Which seven product was it please?
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I'm using their beta program - http://community.seven.com/main.php
Need to register, but it's free.
AndyCr15 said:
How does this Seven work?
Surely there's a way to make it sync while in standby? It's almost like you can't receive a text or a phone call until you wake your device??!?!?!
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It works fine in standby. I'm not sure what you mean when asking how it works. It's a push mail service which uses their server as a proxy of sorts, which checks your mail on POP, IMAP, Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, and even Outlook Web Access accounts. Whenever there's new mail, it's pushed to your device. So you don't check mail from your device actually, it's done by the server, your phone just downloads mails when they arrive.
From the UI perspective, you are just using your stock WM Outlook.
Text messages seem fine, but I've noticed the same with emails - nothing happens til the device wakes.
This is a bit of a deal breaker really - MS couldn't put this in to force people to use Exchange or something daft like that, could they?
I had the same issue on my diamond and You have to use one of the following programms called "Kaiser Tweak or Schaps_AdvancedConfigTool". There are two points, where you can set the "Suspend Timeout from AC resuming and Battery resuming". I have set the values from 1 second to 75 seconds
I dont quite understand how or why it should make a difference but I seem to have inadvertantly fixed this issue with my phone. Im on O2 and couldnt get my MMS to work despite having the correct settings. Eventually on the O2 active connection, I changed the WAP protocol from WAP2.0 to WAP1.2 and my MMS worked. Since then though so has my email! Previously it would only work when the phone was fully awake or when i sent/received, now there are messages waiting when I switch the phone on!
Gav
Ive had this since my Wizard. I assumed it was for a reason. If you dont touch your phone for 8 hours, but it is still connecting and retrieving mail every 10 minutes it is a waste of battery power. You won't see the mail till you bring it out of standby whether it has retrieved them or not.
Schoolydoo, Mine checks every couple of hours and when i use my phone they are there ready to read which im happy with as it irritated me having to send and receive manually. Just posted what Ive found to possibley help others. Ive not had chance to set up a push mail system but as Ive got several different accounts Im happy with how mine is now working. It just seems odd that the protocol thing should effect the auto retrieval.
Gav
21gg said:
I dont quite understand how or why it should make a difference but I seem to have inadvertantly fixed this issue with my phone. Im on O2 and couldnt get my MMS to work despite having the correct settings. Eventually on the O2 active connection, I changed the WAP protocol from WAP2.0 to WAP1.2 and my MMS worked. Since then though so has my email! Previously it would only work when the phone was fully awake or when i sent/received, now there are messages waiting when I switch the phone on!
Gav
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Hey, could you describe exactly how you did this please? I can't find the setting for this anywhere
In messages select the left hand 'all messages' tab, then right hand 'menu' select mms options, then the 'servers' tab. My phone then shows the only connection as 'o2 active MMS', select it and it opens a screen where you can edit the settings, the bottom option is WAP Version, select 1.2 and its done.
Like I said, stil dont know why it works but deffinately does! Let me know how you get on.
Gav
21gg said:
In messages select the left hand 'all messages' tab
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I was looking in the Connections options under the control panel settings. Doh.
I've changed this option and I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks for your quick reply Gav.
I'm trying to get Mobile Justice working on my HD2 but apparently MJ can't activate the GPS because whenever I send my phone a text message requesting the phone's position, nothing happens until I manually start the phone's GPS (by starting Google Maps or some other navigation software for instance). Only then will it send back a text message with its coordinates.
I also installed MJ on my Touch Diamond and on that MJ works perfectly. I send the phone a text message requesting its position and within a few minutes I receive a response from the phone.
So anyone else using MJ on their HD2 and experience the same problem? Were you able to solve it? If not, is there an alternative to MJ?
I just did a bit more testing and contrary to what I said before, it's not necessary to start some kind of GPS application first to have MJ send its position, but it is necessary to switch the phone ON.
Before you say that of course the phone needs to be on, I mean it needs to be active. So when it "switches off" automatically after not using the phone for a minute, it won't respond to a location request text message.
So if I just loose the phone, it's not possible to get its position (because it will not be active then).
Try remotetracker, free and by far the most feature rich app of this type.
samsamuel said:
Try remotetracker
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I did, it doesn't work on my HD2 (it won't send an SMS when I change the SIM card).
Any other alternatives perhaps?