I've got a couple of apps on the miniSD card which I've added to the start menu but (I guess because they're on the miniSD) when I start up there is no pretty icon in the list.
It's not the end of the world, but I wondered if there was a way to fix it properly?
Yes, you can make a shortcut in the local/windows/start directory.
works perfectly - thanks! Clever things shortcuts
is it possible (as a follow-on) for a program in the 'startup' list that's on the miniSD card to be delayed before starting... or does it retry the card until it's ready?
I don't really understand what you mean.....
OffBeatMammal said:
works perfectly - thanks! Clever things shortcuts
is it possible (as a follow-on) for a program in the 'startup' list that's on the miniSD card to be delayed before starting... or does it retry the card until it's ready?
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Why don't you try and tell us that it won't kill your device, the worst it will do is just give you an error message.
hanmin said:
OffBeatMammal said:
works perfectly - thanks! Clever things shortcuts
is it possible (as a follow-on) for a program in the 'startup' list that's on the miniSD card to be delayed before starting... or does it retry the card until it's ready?
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Why don't you try and tell us that it won't kill your device, the worst it will do is just give you an error message.
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wasn't sure the best way to test... and as I've only had the thing a few hours was a little nervous about busting it but popping memory cards in and out to see what happens to get some empirical evidence
Looks like (on testing) that it doesn't retry an app that's set to run off the card if the card isn't installed in the first few seconds... in fact, programs living on the miniSD card but with shortcuts in the /windows/startup folder don't seem to launch at all (tried with a couple - Chronos and SmartsKeys from here) - does this mean I need to go find a launcher app that loops until it's found/started everything?!
I know... I'm a developer by trade so maybe I should learn to hack this thing myself, but most of my development is web not PDA (last time I used VB for a PC app was before .net!)
Funnily enough, in the testing I discovered it's pretty hit and miss if the shortcut icon appears when the app itself lives on the miniSD card... looks like I'm going to have to move Chronos to main memory if I want to be sure of getting woken up in the am
What's the "local/windows/start directory"?
I have the same problem with the icon for programs on the SD sometimes not showing up (sometimes display as a generic Winsows desktop liiking icon) - the entry is there just that the icon itself isn't the correct program specific one. Doesn't seem to be any rhyme nor reason to it.
So is there a solution?
I have the same problem with Storage Card icons not showing up after a soft reset. Has anyone figured this out? Putting shortcut in the startup folder only cause the programs to be loaded, and sometimes that cause errors and all those apps do get launched.
As a work-around I've installed Smallmenu and put cascading menu on my Programs folder (subfolders). It's a few clicks more but at least I get all my icons, organized the way I like them.
Can someone explain this solution to me? What am I creating a shortcut to? If I create a shortcut to the program in the startup menu, will i tnot just open the program?
That seems more annoying than not having the icons...
Looks like AKU2 update has made this problem go away, at least, I've not noticed a problem with startup or icons since upgrading...
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My XDA2 now has a Sandisk 512MB card.
I also have Journal Bar, SPB pocket plus, Lextionary, Pocket Atlas, Pocket Stars, Currency Convertor X, a few games, (and a few others which I ran out of memory).
What I want to know is how exactly do I get the programmes to run from the sd card, so that the XDA2 memory isn't used to store them.
I have tried x-backup, and I have tried cutting the files using file explorer to the sd card, but then the programmes do not run from the start menu.
I'm sure it's something simple but please let me in on it!
So near, and yet so far!
well when you install programs using activesync you can choose between
if you want to install it in main mem or storage
some programs dont work though if you install them to the storage
if you dont want to install the programs again you may be able to edit the shortcut and pointing the path to the new location and some programs may also require some regediting for them to work after being moved
if you dont want to edit the shortcuts then you can just make new ones
whats under programs is just which shortcuts that are located in windows\programs
Thanks for the help.. made sure I said no to installing in default directory.. now to see if each programme works.. Thanks for the help!
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Hi Gumby I'm in a similar position to you in that I just got a 512Mb SD today and I intend to rebuils my system with appropriate applications on the SD. Have you found out yet which work from the SD and which only work from ROM?
It would be halpful for everyone if we could get a list of what should go where.
I know this has happened to people before but ive tried searching at work and now tried searching at home... couldnt find anything.
Today... I was using my 8125 ... I changed themes... you know cingular windows default... just the ones that came with my phone.
Somehow there is nothing on my miniSD... if I go to settings then to memory it shows it has 50 megs taken up... which is what I had before.. but still .... no data there
can someone PLEASE point me in the right direction.
I had some important files on there
Thank you to all that can help
T.
Don't panic, if its showing you there's 50 still used up chances are your files are still there.
What file manager software are you using? If you are using the integrated File Explorer make sure you have it set to view hidden files. Same with Resco File Explorer.
If you are trying to find your files from a specific application such as Notes, Pocket Word, etc. make sure its set to view All Folders at the top and not a specific one.
If all else fails buy a card reader and try to get the files off of your home computer. I would advise you not to leave your SD card in your 8125 till then.
Actually this appears to be more common than we would like to admin with the Wizard. You will most likely have to use a file recovery application on your compter using a card reader to make your files visible again. Not sure why but the Wizard just seems to at random hide all your stuff.
files are not hidden.
I guess im going to have to get card reader.
I don't mean hidden in the sense of a simple file attribute. You are going to have to get a disk recovery program to get your stuff back.
I have also had this happen.
It SEEMS to only occur during a soft reset, so if I plan on resetting the phone, I remove the card first, and don't reinsert until it is done rebooting. that seems to have stopped the problem for me at least.
Very unpleasant problem to say the least!
well I used a program called 'Driverescue' on the card?
is it supposed to be fat1 or fat2 (this made no sense to me) I know a lot about different file systems but have no idea which my card is... fat1 found nothing. I have yet to try fat2.
Anyone know of any good programs (hopefully freeware) to find my data
Thanks for everyones input on this matter.
T
no one knows of any good programs?
I've posted a few software titles that I used to recover my files....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46295&highlight=
I had all the files disapear, so I took the card out and reinserted it and it was fine.
OK HERES THE THING I FLASHED TO LATEST ROM WITH A2DP AND AKU AND EVERYTHING THE QTEK VERSION AND ITS WORKING PRETTY FAST , AND THEN I INSTALL SPB POCKET PLUS AND SPD WEATHER , NOW EVERYTIME I TURN ON THE PHONE OR FLIP THE SCREEN, THERES A 5-10SEC DELAY ON THE TOUCHSCREEN/BUTTONS
WHY IS THIS?
AND SHOULD I GET RID OF SPB
AND HAVE ANY OF YOU HAD THE SIMILAR PROBLEM
PLZ LMK
got a similar problem (although after installing Pocket and Contact Breeze), but learned to live with it.... i think its a memory issue and the today programs using too much memory.
First thing to do is to turn off the SD memory card checking in all today plugins - this should get rid of the main part of the delay...
Hi rancorp!
Where did you install these plugins? If you installed them on the SD-card you should
reinstall them to your Execs flash. I've experience similar problems with SBSH Pocket Breeze
and its Plugins which basically do the same SPB does.
Since I moved the installation to the device everythin ran much better.
I suppose this corresponds to Lordsmiffs advice since a PPC inits its hardware on
wakeup and if he has to init the SD and start things from there it takes time.
Have fun!
mikrolinux
universal speed
operation in most areas should be sub 2 seconds.
some good advice above.
1. Remove memory readers of SD card
2. Install all applications that you use on the today screen to device
3. Remove all icons that look at the sd card for their picture
4. Do not put pocket skype icon anywhere visible, it is a known really really slow bug
5. Common ones well known.... Remove antivirus, turn off error checking, remove auto accept beams
6. If you dont use video call methods, use the original simple phone skin (details are available on wiki)
7. Look at your SPB application, and ensure that you are using what you need... I found I the extras of spb slow it down, the basic today plug in is fast
8. Look at anything else in your startup
9. Look at how much data you are synchronising by referring to your .vol file in the root directory of your folder system
I think a bit more information on your device is necessary. It should be fast. What does your system ram run at on a fresh soft reset.
Excuse me for asking... how to turn off the SD memory card checking in today plugins? Thanks.
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Excuse me for asking... how to turn off the SD memory card checking in today plugins? Thanks.
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I believe they were referring to 3rd party applications that have SD card memory capacity indicator plug-ins. I don't think any shipped ROM has a SD card indicator plug-in.
Thanks cktlcmd.
I just flashed my phone with NFSFAN's Custom rom there are no predefine programs under the program list. I want to add GPS toggle and Igo8 icon that's installed on my storage card for easier access but I can't browse to it. Seems I can only add what's installed under Windows/Programs
To the best of my knowledge your problem is a generic one that has nothing to do with NFSFAN's ROM.
Everytime you flash a new ROM, generic or custom it wipes clean your windows start menu ( to "factory" state)
The programs installed on your SD card are still there, your just missing the shortcuts.
1. Use a file explorer of your choice and navigate to storage card/program files and all your installed programs should be there inside folders. The rest applies to the generic File explorer that comes with windows but any other program should be similiar.
2. go into a program folder, find the exe for the program (it's usually the one with the icon for the program). right click it with your stylus and select copy.
3. Next select menu (lower right soft key), under edit select "Paste shortcut"
4. Right click the shortcut, select either "cut" or "copy" (hint: using copy and leaving the shortcut allows you to skip the previous steps next time you flash a new ROM!!)
5. Navigate (using the up key) to Windows/start menu/program files and paste the shortcut there, for games there is a further directory. Also you can now rename the shortcut if you want.
6. Now open up the "all programs" soft key on the program tab of M2d, or select add and the program from you SD card should now be on the list.
For IGo8, I use TomTom. TT installs automatically when you insert the SD card into the ppc. After flashing a new ROM I just take my SD card out and then reinstall it. I am not sure if IGo8 works the same way or not but if the above steps prove frustrating for that, give it a shot.
It's a pain to go through this everytime you flash. It would be great if there was a tool to scan your SD card for programs and automaticaly install the proper shortcuts. There is none to the best of my knowledge. Then again, no one ever gets rewarded for being lazy.
Have fun, and if your new to this (especially flashing new ROMS), read...read...and read.
Best of luck
Wow, that's some detailed info. Thanks
I haven't tried your method yet, but I just remember that GPS toggle is actually a today plugin, NSFANS takes up the entire today screen, therefore it isn't visible.
I usually toggle my gps on before starting Igo and I get instant Sat lock.
As far as Igo8 Vs TT, I have both but I like the interface of Igo better. I don't have to reinstall anything after I flash. I just go to the Igo8 folder in my Storage card and execute the program. It runs off the storage card, there's nothing to install.
Cool, I've been meaning to try IGo myself sometime.
Not being able to use normal today plugins is a turn off for some. Only having one calendar line is another (M3d has a calendar tab). It's not NFSFANS's fault, that's Touch-flo 2d (Manila 2d). It is more a plugin itself than a whole new UI, it started on the diamond, was released on the Opal and Jade (Touch 3g) phones and ported to our devices by the devs here at XDA.
I love it personaly, it offers most users everything they need without going too deep into the actual winmo interface.....which is not to "touch" friendly.
I think a workable solution might be to see if you can put a shortcut to GPS toggle on the programs tab.
In the developement and Hacking section several devs were working on an m2d/today toggle that lets you toggle back and forth. There is also another app that tries to use the soft keys. Of course if you like M2d but need more than one prog tab, search "m2d operator tab" on this site. It is fully customizable and allows you to basically have 2 program tabs.
M2d operator tab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451623
Toggle :
http:///forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464359
second today (M2d control):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447504
If M2d proves to be not for you, I suggest using the old today screen with schens HTTC customizer in place. It's worth it's weight in gold as well. I was using it untill M2d came out.
Cheers,
well assuming you're using his newest one all you have to do is go to the program you want in the file explorer, tap and hold it, and then just tap "send shortcut to programs".
ehh, I just flashed my phone with Dette 2D v2.3 today. I'll mess with it for a few days and try something else until I find the one that feels good to me.
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Cool, I've been meaning to try IGo myself sometime.
Not being able to use normal today plugins is a turn off for some. Only having one calendar line is another (M3d has a calendar tab). It's not NFSFANS's fault, that's Touch-flo 2d (Manila 2d). It is more a plugin itself than a whole new UI, it started on the diamond, was released on the Opal and Jade (Touch 3g) phones and ported to our devices by the devs here at XDA.
I love it personaly, it offers most users everything they need without going too deep into the actual winmo interface.....which is not to "touch" friendly.
I think a workable solution might be to see if you can put a shortcut to GPS toggle on the programs tab.
In the developement and Hacking section several devs were working on an m2d/today toggle that lets you toggle back and forth. There is also another app that tries to use the soft keys. Of course if you like M2d but need more than one prog tab, search "m2d operator tab" on this site. It is fully customizable and allows you to basically have 2 program tabs.
M2d operator tab:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451623
Toggle :
http:///forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464359
second today (M2d control):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=447504
If M2d proves to be not for you, I suggest using the old today screen with schens HTTC customizer in place. It's worth it's weight in gold as well. I was using it untill M2d came out.
Cheers,
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Don't you need to use astrogps launcher with iGO? I'm using NFS 1.25 and I need some sort of priming software for iGO and Tomtom, is there something else you are using?
I only use google maps (on my M2D search tab), and TomTom while driving.
I use no other program to prime at all.
I travel coast to coast with my job, I just use the search tab, or launch TomTom (never in the same order, sometimes only one or the other), and presto.....a fix within 10 seconds.
As I said in another thread, I was showing off my phone to my FO one day and let google maps run while we were departing Montreal. It showed us going down runway 28, turning eastbound and crossing the St. Lawrence. The only reason it quite was we were going to fast for google maps to update through the data connection. Later in cruise (at 23,000 ft) I launched TomTom, it was confused as heck (didn't know what road we were on!!!!), but it did show our proper Lat/Long (I confirmed it with the aircraft's FMS).
Been running smooth for a while, never a problem getting sats or a quick fix.
That was a helpful explanation for me too. I'm a noob and using your steps I now have Skyfire in my Start Menu. Many thanks !!!
These are my requests that I have which would actually "complete" my perfect HD2... if any members here would like to contribute some info as to how I may go about and fulfill them, then I would have much gratitude. Thanks
-Aside from the volume control that MysticGenious posted along with his taskbar, is there any other cab or registry change that will allow me to change my volume in increments of 1 as opposed to 3 bars each time? I am familiar with the paid app, but I do not want to go that route.. If mysticGenious created something that works when you use his taskbar, then I'm sure someone else has created something.
-Take the application "FootPrints" for example... Unless I have that activated on my tab screens, I am unable to create a shortcut so that I can save it on as a quicklink. This is the same with the HTC Calender App and any other tab application. If its not active in the Tab menu then the shortcuts doesn't exist. Is there a workaround? I would like to use Foot Prints, but I only want it as a quicklink, NOT as a Tab folder. I have already tried activating the tab and creating the shortcut to the quicklinks, but as soon as i removed it from the Tab Menus, it disappeared. There has got to be a way for this to happen. Cause I mean the program is there, but for some reason it only works if its active in Tabs.
-Transformers... I have tried reinstalling the Transformers cab but that didn't work. I just want to be able to click the Transformers shortcut and be able to select either 1 or 2 and then the movie instantly pops up. I have the movies saved on my sd card now, but because i moved them out of the SD card and onto my computer at one point in time, the link that connected them is no longer there. Basically I have all the components, I just need some guidance on how to make the shortcut link and work again... I'm assuming that i have to direct the file via registry editor "Total Commander" or something, I am just confused when it comes to that stuff on my HD2
and believe it or not, thats actually the only issues I have left with the phone, I'm sure that someone has a suggestion, or knows an answer... thanks a lot guys