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How do I save to sd card

My XDA2 now has a Sandisk 512MB card.
I also have Journal Bar, SPB pocket plus, Lextionary, Pocket Atlas, Pocket Stars, Currency Convertor X, a few games, (and a few others which I ran out of memory).
What I want to know is how exactly do I get the programmes to run from the sd card, so that the XDA2 memory isn't used to store them.
I have tried x-backup, and I have tried cutting the files using file explorer to the sd card, but then the programmes do not run from the start menu.
I'm sure it's something simple but please let me in on it!
So near, and yet so far!

well when you install programs using activesync you can choose between
if you want to install it in main mem or storage
some programs dont work though if you install them to the storage
if you dont want to install the programs again you may be able to edit the shortcut and pointing the path to the new location and some programs may also require some regediting for them to work after being moved
if you dont want to edit the shortcuts then you can just make new ones
whats under programs is just which shortcuts that are located in windows\programs

Thanks for the help.. made sure I said no to installing in default directory.. now to see if each programme works.. Thanks for the help!

Similar position
Hi Gumby I'm in a similar position to you in that I just got a 512Mb SD today and I intend to rebuils my system with appropriate applications on the SD. Have you found out yet which work from the SD and which only work from ROM?
It would be halpful for everyone if we could get a list of what should go where.

msgqueuedatafilemicrosoft files

Hi there.
I'm having some problems with my "Storage" and "Programs" memories. Both are at 96% full right now which make my magician crash every now and then. Looking for files to delete I found several "MsgQueueDataFileMicrosoft" files on my windows directory. Does someone knows what they are used for? Can I delete them? Between them they steal 15MB storage memory!
Thanks.
depro

Searching for that answer too
in other threads i found only, that you can delete that files, but they come back soon automatically.
But i never looked after, if they really stole the amount of memory an explorer told they should?
Maybe they use the same memory-part?

Files on mini SD card disappear! Please help!!

The weird problems happened to my Dopod D810 twice.
The first time: The whole file system on card went crazy with all folder names became gibberish (like: &%*()jhui&%^&&!#%&). After a soft reset many folders disappeared, a few folders remained but became duplicated but many files inside were not readable (e.g there are two identical folders named My ebooks).
I thought it might be card-related and I hard reset, formated the card, and re-installed all softwares.
Today it happened again but differently:
- I had some video files in Storage card\My Documents\My Videos folder like this ... video_28.mp4, video_29.mp4, video_30.mp4
- After a video shot, I opened Resco Explorer to check and to replay but all folders and files previously in Storage card\My Documents disappeared. Other folders and programs on the card were still intact and ran fine
- I tried shooting another few video clips (with option saving to card, of course). They all disappeared after shooting.
- But the weird thing is: After shooting, I chose the preview option and WMP played the file well. I paused the playing, check the properties of the now playing file and it showed clearly: Storage card\My Documents\My videos\Video_33.mp4
But in File Explorer and Resco explorer the Storage card\My Documents is absolutely empty despite the file IS BEING PLAYED in WMP
- I tried again and again, the video clips preview were always named in sequence like video_34.mp4 then video_35.mp4, .... but they all mysteriously disappeared.
What is wrong? Has anyone experienced the same problem? Is that a hardware failure (writing-to-card)? Should I send in for repair? Please help! I have some important clips that I really want to keep. Is there any way, any tool to help recover the files that are probably still there?

Do you have another miniSD to run some tests?
This could give you an idea of what is going wrong?
The miniSD could be malfunctioning.
Regards!

Apparently, you are a new user here...
The Trinity has a hardware problem that HTC can't still fix by now. Go search for some posts. There is currently NO solution available - you may try cards with smaller capacity, or you do some preventive measures, such as install SD Sentry.

I have found that rebooting without the card in and then putting it back in sorts this out. Also I am attaching fixes from HTC and others which stop minimise this happening. Finally, it is suggested you use the Sandisk MiniSD Ultra II cards instead as they have a faster transfer rate. These are available on Amazon for about 15 UK pounds.
Hawk

Damn it! They're gone
Thanks for all the suggestion.
I did reboot without the card then reinserted it but didn't help.
The card is Kingston 2GB
@Nighthawk2050: what does the first patch do? the second patch seem to be for another set, not Trinity?
@WW2250: what does SD Sentry do?
I bought a Transcend card reader, but could not recover any video files.
The card reader however showed the My Videos folder containing only one last video clip.
It also showed 4 other folders which report error when clicked on
.gif
1.gif
gif
p0.gif
There are also 2 other files
/p300p1..gif (two dots) with a reported size of 1,838,093 KB
i/p320p1..gi with a reported size of 789,709 KB
I think with a faulty product like this, I have the right to return it (to Three Australia - a 3G provider)
I think they only have one other 3G set which is the Dopod 838 Pro
Please advise if the 838 Pro has any similar problem (or other potential problems)?

Nighthawk2050 said:
I have found that rebooting without the card in and then putting it back in sorts this out. Also I am attaching fixes from HTC and others which stop minimise this happening. Finally, it is suggested you use the Sandisk MiniSD Ultra II cards instead as they have a faster transfer rate. These are available on Amazon for about 15 UK pounds.
Hawk
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First patch (miniSD HC Patch.cab) don't work....download the new one from the official thread (anyways, it work only on LVSW's ROM v2.0.1.1 and on AX3L's ROM anyversion) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1341004#post1341004
Second patch (ArtemisSDEnhancement.CAB) is only for ARTEMIS, not Trinity

Try Panasonic SD formater for format your SD card.
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Borut

The first patch might not be working for WM5, since it was originally extracted from Hermes WM6 ROM. But you mileage may vary.
SD Sentry is a program written by a Spb developer, who had exactly the same problems of you (for his Artemis though). At that time, there was no fix available from HTC. So he wrote that little program to check constantly for indications of SD card corruptions, such as missing files or folders, screwed up file and folder names, etc.
If such indications are found, it offers you a warning and an option to reboot such that you won't be doing further damages to your card writing to it in an already corrupted state. If you reboot in time, you can yourself a day before it wreaks havoc.
For details, you may want to visit his page at http://www.nixie.narod.ru/sdsentry/index-en.htm
BTW, there was an official fix from HTC for Artemis, but none is released for your precious Trinity, AFAIK.

fookwell said:
Please advise if the 838 Pro has any similar problem (or other potential problems)?
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Don't know for sure for 838 Pro - but it seems to me that this problem is a special free feature from HTC for newer devices like Artemis and Trinity. Besides this issue, I think it's not worth to go back to 838 Pro since it's an older device, slower, and has different sets of problems by itself.
I read extensive from the Artemis forum - and from there I learn that they have a worthy workaround that you may want to try: Don't ever press the power button - let the power save timeout take care of shutting down the machine when not in use.
Their theory is that there's a problem with the HW/OS that interact with the SD card whenever there's a power event, probably lies in the cache or the controller, creating corrupted filesystem data, when unfortunately being actually flushed to your card, would actually inflict real damage. So, if you get strange card suddenly disappear errors, strange filename folders, etc... you'd better reboot it immediately.
Removing the card and re-inserting it seems to reinitialize the driver and will probably revive your card too, but I'd say reboot it is your best bet.
Looks like you now need some software recovering tools to savage your files from your already damaged card. Grab as many as you can recover, re-format the card, and install SD Sentry.

I thought Dopod 838 Pro (Hermes 100) is more or less the same as a Trinity with a keyboard and without GPS?
Anyway, maybe I have to stick with this Trinity for now.
About SD Sentry: another program, would it further slow down the phone?

fookwell said:
Anyway, maybe I have to stick with this Trinity for now.
About SD Sentry: another program, would it further slow down the phone?
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It's incredibly light-weight. I even forgot its existence once installed and configured. It never get into your way unless absolutely necessary - when your card get corrupted
Hope it helps.

Hmm maybe its only my trinity but I observed everytime all the SD data is lost is when I use the internet explorer to download and install something onto the ppc.I've done downloading Flash player 7 from my ppc internet explorer and after a soft reset the sd data is also lost.tell me if I am wrong pls.maybe we can avoid it by not using the ppc i.e. to download stuff and intsall it

if you can reproduce it every time exactly, then it's good. Record the exact procedure and tell HTC about it. I read the guys at artemis forum did that and get a fix from HTC.
I want to do that but I just couldn't reproduce it.

Hello,
same pb with me. Pretty anoying...
I saw that i'm sharing this pb with several people. but doing a wide search on google doesn't give the impression that every body has this pb.
Is it a hardware pb, should I take in back for repair.
Does a WM6 upgrade would solve it ?
thanks for your help.

It's indeed annoying especially when you got nothing left in the card. I don't know about the scope of your search in google - but it's a pretty big problem here in this forum - definitely not limited to Trinity or Artemis.
I am sure not everyone encounter this problem - since it's quite related to write i/o activities to the card. Playing music with media player count as one - since it updates (read: writes) the DRM files in the card automatically whenever it is running; people who use camera reported corruption; and the original poster who downloads and installs cabs on the card.
It's definitely a hardware + software problem, which might be able to get fixed by a software driver patch, but only after HTC has identified the root cause of the problem. That's why I asked s4cr3d to report the bug to HTC if he has a recipe to reproduce the bug step by step.
Take it back for repair? Forget it. WM6 doesn't seem to resolve it as well. I read someone with WM6 (cooked) still have this problem. Don't know about the official rom.... yet.

thanks for your answer. need to wait then... still great device...

I'm using AX3L's ROM v2.0.8 and I must say the SD problem affects WM6 cooked ROMs too. It seems to me that it has something to do with software/hardware incompatibilities.
The specs are as follows:
- Corsair 2GB MiniSD
- AX3L v2.0.8
- AX3L ExtROM v2.0.5
The problem started when I used Resco Explorer's built-in unzip tool to unzip a file onto the Storage Card. Everything went ok until I opened up "Storage Card" and went, "where's the My Documents folder?". In a spectacular twist, I managed to corrupt the card (thru formatting, re-formatting again and again) and now it's dead. I used Panasonic SD Formatter, formatting in Linux, etc. and they weren't much help. My word of advice is to store everything safe in your computer the moment you see disappearing files because it might just go downhill from there.
I strongly believe it is Resco Explorer but I cannot verify this cos' I don't wanna screw up more cards.
I have since bought a Sandisk 1GB card and reflashed AX3L v2.0.8 without the ExtROM (and so, no Resco Explorer). It might be the card, it might be Resco Explorer but I have had no problems since (it's been 10 days now).
Anyway, hope this helps someone in some way. Will definitely try the SDSentry program just to be absolutely safe. These cards don't come cheap over here..

MyFavs Disappeared after multiple hard resets...?

I did about 3 hard reset to the phone (for testing purposes), and all the sudden the myfavs program does not appear after I did the hard reset the 4th time, I did the hard reset about 2 more times and it did not restore the myfavs program (it suppose to back to its factory settings)
Now I keep getting "your myfaves contacts have been restored" text message every time time I turn on the phone (keeps pilling up with this same text message)which your suppose to only get once.
under the memory setting; storage & program seems to have the exactly same file size as when i had myfavs before.
What can I do? all I want is the default factory settings.. help me.

Hah! You survived longer than I did with it. I hard reset once just to clean my phone up before I started messing with anything (messing with the ROM, etc.) and the MyFaves app disappeared completely from the little tray bar at the bottom and the Today Screen.
Interestingly if you dig around with the file browser in the \windows\ directory I can see all the MyFav5 related applications, but nothing launches.
I'm tempted to try the RUU but to be honest the MyFaves program just ate a ton of memory and resulted in me calling people on accident when I had the Today Screen Plug-in active. So as long as the plan still gets accounted correctly (read as: I don't get charged for calling my 5 people),I don't really care.
I thought I'd let you know you aren't the only one out there with the exact same problem. I would like a solution but it isn't mission critical for me.

I found a solution to your problem. I'll do some more testing later. For now:
Could you look in your \Windows\ directory of your phone and tell me what "My*" applications and files are listed there? (You might have to make the basic file explorer show all files by using Menu>Show All Files).

All the "My" files that are in windows directory (revised & no file missing or mistyped). The some files are repeated to I placed the filesize next to them.
My5_Land
My5_Land.swf.0409
My5_Port.swf.0409
My5app
My5Client
My5ControllerPanelPlugin
My5MsgCenter 138k
My5MsgCenter 30b
My5PimProvider
My5service
My5Today_MaskCircle
My5Today_MaskRing
MyFave
MyFaves 19.1k
MyFaves 29b
MyFaves_add
MyFaves_hourglass
MyFaves_PhCDefault
MyFaves_sihouette
MyFavesApp_3DMask
MyFavesApp_74x743DMask
MyFavesApp_ContactMask
MyFaves-plugin
MyFavTodayPlugin
Myinfo.96

Extreme184X said:
All the "My" files that are in windows directory (revised & no file missing or mistyped). The some files are repeated to I placed the filesize next to them.
My5_Land
My5_Land.swf.0409
My5_Port.swf.0409
My5app
My5Client
My5ControllerPanelPlugin
My5MsgCenter 138k
My5MsgCenter 30b
My5PimProvider
My5service
My5Today_MaskCircle
My5Today_MaskRing
MyFave
MyFaves 19.1k
MyFaves 29b
MyFaves_add
MyFaves_hourglass
MyFaves_PhCDefault
MyFaves_sihouette
MyFavesApp_3DMask
MyFavesApp_74x743DMask
MyFavesApp_ContactMask
MyFaves-plugin
MyFavTodayPlugin
Myinfo.96
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My5Service.exe is the key application. I wanted to make sure you had all the bits to the MyFaves program. The reason you see duplicate names with different file sizes is that the File Explorer program that you have on your hand held suppresses extensions of files for whatever idea.
Now then to fix your problem you are going to need to edit the registry of your device (I used total commander, the .CAB is in one of the Useful cab threads).
A key is missing from the registry after hard reset. WOO!!
Go to \\registry\\HKLM\init\ (using total commander's akward directory structure style)
You then have to add a new key, I used "Launch94" as I was noticing most of the T-Mo crapware was using the Launch9# series of keys
Then edit the key's data to be: My5Service.exe (Must be spelled correctly)
Basically what you did was add in a registry key that tells windows to load up the MyFaves service at boot so all the my faves apps will initialize properly. Putting My5Service.exe into the \windows\startup\ folder doesn't work (I tried it initially).
Soft reset and the phone will act wonky for a second as it is refreshing itself, don't panic. A box popped up saying "MyFaves display set to ON" and all was well at that point.
Then, since you want factory default I'd just remove Total Commander using the add/remove programs feature.

Good lookin out!!!
thanks alot, it did it and it worked.
I made an attemp to reformat the phone again, and myfavs appeared. Funny How I never managed to get that total commander for this phone. Lol im an experience user with registries (now gonna experiment with the register editor an tweak the phone to make phone faster and remove useless I don't need)
Thanks lot you have been helpful and gave fast support!!

Ah well no insult to your ability or experience was meant. I try to be as specific in my write ups as possible so others who might have the same problem can understand the solution, regardless of ability. Tends to make my life at work a lot easier when I do that so it's become a bit of a habit.
Glad it worked for ya and I'm actually surprised it survived another format. But hey all it says is there is some glitchy code in the re-install portion T-Mo has built.

Extreme184X said:
(now gonna experiment with the register editor an tweak the phone to make phone faster and remove useless I don't need)
Thanks lot you have been helpful and gave fast support!!
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By the way, let me know what tweaks you try. I'd be interested in them myself.

Good seeing people help each other out. The speed tweaks are everywhere, but to remove things you have to recook and flash your phone. (Alternatively, you can flash one of the many available ROMs our cooks have already made or made a custom one based on my own through the link on my signature.)

i got a quick Question how about trying to add it to a already cooked rom is that possible ? bc i love the PDAVIET-ROM BUILD 20931.1.5.0.PV(uploaded) rom but the myfaves tab dont work

does anyone have the my faves.cab?

Is There Any Way To Hide Programs

I Want To Know IF There Is Any Way That I Can Hide Programs Or Mask Them SO That They Don't Show Up On The Programs List And Also Hide Any Files Associated With The Program

HELP
Any Help Please

It's difficult to answer without knowing what you are trying to accomplish. Why would you want to hide programs on your own phone?
Anyway, your best luck will be with small programs, the kind that run as a single executable, that you can put somewhere on the SD card.

Im Sure Im Not The Only One With These Issues
My Girlfriend Was Always Questioning Me About Why I Always Kept My Phone Locked And Would Not Answer It When I Was Around Her So I Put A Program Called Magicall On My Phone I Don't Know If Your Familiar With That But You Can Screen Certain Calls Well As She Always Does Whenever I Leave My Phone Unlocked She Went Thru It When I Was In The Shower She Saw The Program But Couldn't Get Into It Sp She Went On The Internet To Find Out What It Was And Then She Wanted To Know Why It Was On My Phone And We've Been Arguing Ever Since So Please Help Me Id You Can It Would Be Much Appreciated Thank You In Advance

I don't have a technical answer..sounds more like it's a trust issue. Besides locking the phone, only thing I can think of is install on sd...but then you have to remember to remove the sd card when you put the phone down.
If this was a pc, I'd say install the private stuff on an encrypted volume like TrueCrypt. Not sure if there's anything like that for ppc.

This would probably work...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-freeotfe4pda-v3-00.html
But I'm telling you, it will be a real PITA to manage a setup like this. Methinks it would be easier to just get straight with the gf, but I know very little.

i tried to download the program but it said that it was not a valid ppc application any more suggestions

old_school_dave said:
This would probably work...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-freeotfe4pda-v3-00.html
But I'm telling you, it will be a real PITA to manage a setup like this. Methinks it would be easier to just get straight with the gf, but I know very little.
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Here is a solution if you are not trying to be open with gf:
Have the program cab on sd card renamed to something that would never be used by gf, such as erasememory.cab. Use program when you need it. I don't think this will work if you are trying to use a program to keep her from finding out about other gf, you may want to use the thing from Men in Black that erases her memory.
The program from earlier, or some other virtual encryption device may work, but you may have issues due to the fact that you are running a program tied into so many others (phone, sms, etc). You may make your phone pretty unstable.
Why don't you tell her that you accidently replied to a text that sent you spam messages and you were trying some freeware program to block, or that you were getting a call from some random number that was harrassing you and you were trying this program to see if it would stop the calls. You gotta think on your feet if you are going to prevent the ***** session after she found out. Careful if she pulls the verizon/sprint bill and checks sms/calls.

if what im trying to do is not possible then is there anyway to change the icon or mask the program im up for any suggestions right now other than being honest cause I love my women

"i tried to download the program but it said that it was not a valid ppc application any more suggestions"
exe files in general are install ment to be run on the pc with the pda connected not directly on the pda!
about hiding programs then
\windows\start menu\programs and remove the shortcut goes along way

after I deleted the shortcut I tried going into my documents to open the program but it didn't open is there another way to open it also I tried changing the name of the program with this method and it worked but is there a way I can change the icon because that would be perfect thanks for your input it is much APPRECIATED and if there's anything I can help you with let me know

rsturgis0601 said:
after I deleted the shortcut I tried going into my documents to open the program but it didn't open is there another way to open it also I tried changing the name of the program with this method and it worked but is there a way I can change the icon because that would be perfect thanks for your input it is much APPRECIATED and if there's anything I can help you with let me know
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Here is how you mask the icon.
Use total commander and navigate to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and find that .lnk file: delete it.
Find another .lnk file and copy to pasteboard. Go to another folder and paste it there (just as long as the other folder doesn't have the same link). Go into properties of that copied link and click on shortcut tab at the top. In the target field, click on File and navigate to Program Files/(DIRECTORY OF YOUR PROGRAM)/(EXECUTABLE FILE THAT OPENS YOUR PROGRAM) and click OK. Click File/Rename and call it something benign or something she wont click (like Erase Phone Memory).
You will then cut to pasteboard and navigate back to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and paste that file. You will then use that file to start the program. You could also change the name of the directory folder in program files if she knows how to navigate around in total commander/ file explorer. It will still show up in task manager as what it is though, and same goes for x button/ pocket plus.

Thanks Got It You Just Helped Me Take My Relationships To A Whole New Level

rsturgis0601 said:
Thanks Got It You Just Helped Me Take My Relationships To A Whole New Level
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Glad to help you be so devious. Happy mongering.