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I just noticed, i was looking through the windows folder and i found the filed i wanted to rename to force it to fail loading for a test,
using resco i cleared the readonly flag.
i renamed the file
within 2 seconds the screen refreshed and the original file was there again aswell as the renamed one.
this is similar to xp's prefetch where you can delete system specific files and it will replace them itself, in theory delete the windows folder and it will rebuild itself back to a working system, i went through it on a W2003 Advanced Server course aswell.
if this repairing action could be halted, it would open the devices modding capabilities somewhat.
This is NOT prefetch.
Prefetch is when windows loads some programs into ram ready to run them at boot time. This means its quicker to run word etc when you choose it, so booting takes longer and running word is quicker.
and in theory, if you delete the windows folder, it will be deleted and windows will quickly crash, and not boot again.
It does NOT have the power to re-create copies of deleted files from nowhere!
This magical self generation of windows files is not taught on "W2003 Advanced Server course" or any other, I suggest you ask for your money back.
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Pyrofer, thanx for the well needed humour, u made me laugh with your comments.
You are thinking about the System File Checker thingy. On Windows (not on WM5) there is a directory with a copy of all the system files. If you replace or delete a system file then windows picks up on it and restores the file. As Pyrofer said, its not magical and its not prefetch
Paul
Pyrofer, I think you should get some facts straight before typing,
as a test for me, check you got system restore running, go into your windows installation folder and MOVE notepad.exe to somewhere else, low and behold notepad.exe reappears in the windows installation folder.
http://www.theeldergeek.com/system_volume_information_folder1.htm
That link may educate you a little more
or this one
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531
have you been on any computer courses, maybe you should, as its obvious you know very little about modern operating systems, I may have got the prefetch incorrectly named and should have been clearly explained to the now obvious non technical network engineer, but atleast i know what the systems are capable of.
If WM5 is using the extended_rom as the system restore like and this can be stopped, alot of tidying up from the windows folder will make more ram avaliable
This magical self generation of windows files is not taught on "W2003 Advanced Server course" or any other, I suggest you ask for your money back.
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Have you done the course? maybe you should and you'll find out yourself that windows is more capable than you think.
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE SHOOTING PEOPLE DOWN IN FLAMES TW4T
System Restore / System Volume Information has nothing to do with the system file protection feature you are describing. They are 2 entirely seperate things. The feature you are actually taking about is described here;
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=222193
WM5 does not have either of these features, the extended rom only contains OEM cab files and operator settings, WM5 has no advanced features like this at all.
There are a number of possible explanations, rom files cannot be deleted, but some can be masked by another file of the same name, you can then delete or rename the 2nd file exposing the 1st file in rom. I have seen this behaviour in WM2003.
Paul
thanks psneddon, thats the system i was trying to find the name of, if that can be stopped from happening.
Thanks for having a go at my knowledge, its always nice to see that you did exactly what you accused me of...
"System Restore / System Volume Information has nothing to do with the system file protection feature you are describing. They are 2 entirely seperate things"
And you agreed with this comment, ie, admitted that in your correction of your post, where you slagged me off, you still got it wrong.
So, in two posts you got them both wrong, in my post i stated a list of correct facts. I never said there was no feature to restore wnidows files, i said that it wasnt prefetch and it wasnt.
ALso, I wasnt "BEFORE SHOOTING PEOPLE DOWN IN FLAMES " and using all caps to shout, I was simply trying to point out your mistakes in a humerous way, obviously my humour went over your head.
I didnt flame you, or call you a twat.
Im sorry if I managed to offend you and understand that humour is a very subjective thing, at least one person here got the joke, so lets just end it here please.
I accept your apology, maybe some smileys around the humor parts would help me a little :lol: and maybe i did fly off the handle a little after nearlly getting killed on my way to work this morning. :roll:
WFP ( Windows File Protection ) does exist, ive now researched into it a little and its been around for a while, and you can delete the contents of the windows folder or system32 and it will replace it all (windows o/s related anyway).
What i was implying was that the universal could be using a similar system to this, ie, getting missing files from the rom and putting them back, and like WFP, this comes with an overhead on performance as it has to continually monitor specific folders for the changes.
I know replacing a file with a blank renamed file blocks this from happening but this can cause issues down the line, like replacing the imate today skins, yer renaming txt files and replacing them stops them from being recreated, but you can still choose them in the today skin manager.
Anyway i've had enough caffine now, lets get the Univeral up to the standards that the advertising led us to believe.
I was annoyed that the atom did not have a little program like the "running programs" on the mini, so it got me thinking about replacing it. Instead of accessing the memory manager I made a little app to put on my today launcher (see my sig) so I could get a list of the processes.
The program itself works (even though I think I did it a bit back to front) but there is one problem. In all versions of the os before wm5 my listview works fine. In wm5 the state image list, ie using LVSIL_STATE dose not work. I do not have any programing tools for wm5 and I cant find any info regarding how it handles state images. Any info would be appreciated.
Also is there a way to get an icon onto the recently used programas list in the start menu - without putting the exe/lnk into the start menu folder?
Here is the program if anyone wants to try it
http://odeean.veritel.com.au/ORDprocessManager/processManager.exe
I also found that using
ListView_SetImageList(hwndListView, himlTopLevel, LVSIL_STATE);
screwed up the imagelist used by the file explorer. I would not have expected the explorer to use a state image list to hold the file etc icons, and why should my one have anything to do with it. In the other versions of the os the imagelist one creates belong to the listview and get cleaned up by it when it is destroyed.
the ImageList_AddIcon also fails.
I found the cause.
For years I have been putting 0 in the flags parameter of ImageList_Create.
It always worked because I think it defaults to ILC_COLOR4. The atom has an 18bit colour depth so I guess it needs to be more specific. I tried ILC_COLOR and it worked fine with no more explorer problems. This leaves the question about why the explorer was effected, a bit worrying.
This tiny app takes 2 seconds to do its thing on the XDA 1 and 4 seconds on the atom. Sad, very sad.
...the new version is on the link above now. I noticed that on wm5 cprog comes up as safe to stop (it shouldn't) so don't press stop all if you want your phone to work.
I tried to do a search about this, but nothing came up. For some reason, whenever I tried to open my Windows folder using Resco, it takes about 8-10 seconds before it opens up. I don't know what program I've installed that can be causing this. In fact, I even hard resetted and restored using one of my latest backups. The folder opens up normally and quickly, but then a few syncs later, it goes back to taking 8 sec to open the folder (so, only the Windows is affected). I'm thinking maybe it's some dll file that resco or the built-in file explorer are trying to read, but just a conjecture. Please advise if you have any suggestions.
is resco installed in the main memory or storage card?
Opening the windows folder is always slow - it has to gather info on every file, from ROM (which is slow anyway) and then gather icons for every .exe. Disable showing icons for rom files in your settings (I use gsfinder, but I'm sure Resco does this too).
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I have resco installed in the main memory. I can try disabling the icon display. The only thing disappointing here is it was opening the Windows folder fine, until suddenly it slowed down (overnight). I tried to figure out what program I installed in the interim, but couldn't find anything. This has happened before, but was corrected with a previous backup restored. Then happened again after a few weeks. I just wish there is an answer, instead of me blaming it on software incompatibility. B/c if that's the case, I have to be careful about installing every program in the future. And with WM5, you can't always uninstall programs cleanly.
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I tried to do a search about this, but nothing came up. For some reason, whenever I tried to open my Windows folder using Resco, it takes about 8-10 seconds before it opens up.
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One way - overclock your PDA.
Speaking of overclock. Where can I find the omap overclocker? Excuse my ignorance, but I did a search on the net, it links from one site to another, but I can never find the actual site for the download. Does anyone know?
I too have noticed this problem with opening the Windows folder. I have the following observations:
1: Normally when I tap the windows folder it opens up before the spinning coloured wheel has completed one full turn.
2: When the slow down occurs it takes about 4 spins of the colured wheel before the windows folder opens up.
3: Once the slow down has occurred it can be noticed both in Resco file explorer as well as the original windows file explorer.
4: I have noticed that this slow down in opening the Windows folder is also accompanied with a slow down of the boot up time. In my case when things are working nromally a boot up takes 1 Minute and 30 Seconds. (this is the time between when I press the reset button to the time when the today screen has fully redrawn). Once the problem has occurred the boot time increased to 2 Minute and 5 seconds.
5: In my case this problem has occurrred most of the time when I have installed a new software after installing NetFront 3.3. In my case the solution that has worked is to uninstall Netfront 3.3 and then again reinstall it. In other words if I install any new software I first have to remove Netfront 3.3, install the new software and then reinstall Netfront 3.3.
By the way my device is an i-mate Jasjar but the observations are quite similar to the prophet.
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same here guys.. It is obvious that slow down accure after active sync or new application install. Then it makes me think it has to do with registry modification, once windows folder has been modified? Forgive me my ignorance, I’m not a programmer.. And this is just observation in an effort to find a couse and solution. Any ideas? Anybody? Cuz this is really getting on my nerves. This prophet is disappointing me a big time I have magician and prophet and when I compare two phones, with prophet over clocked to 240 (this is optimal speed before it crashes) and magician with its normal speed, both phones have same applications running and the difference is like driving the porche and old opel! Where magician is a porche! I can watch high quality, full 600 mb movie on magician without a flinch! And prophet is barely moving!! I got to tell you, I love the design and everything, but by putting an OMAP processor with WM 5 (which is slow as it is) HTC really screwed up! First they try to make a PDA out of phone, and then they are taking it back from PDA to a phone.. I’m selling it I guess Atom is the next thing for me. It’s just to darn expensive
Smrz, I think you pretty much hit it on the nose with netfront. I noticed that on my old dopod 818pro and now the jamin, the slow down occurred after netfront was installed. But I dismissed that it was due to netfront b/c I think I reinstalled it, and then it was back to normal. But I didn't think about netfront causing a conflict only IF YOU INSTALL NEW APPLICATIONS. I think I'll try reinstalling netfront again, and see if it works. What's frustrating with wm5 is I can't cleanly uninstall applications anymore. Is this unique to my machine, to prophet, or to WM5 in general. Everytime I uninstall, it says it can't do it, but it'll remove the application name from the Add/Remove menu. Meanwhile, I have to go delete the folder in program files manually. And who knows what happened to my registry and dll files during all this. BTW, anyone know where I can get that overclocker?
Windows folder
Hi,
any solution found to this problem? My normal time of opening the Windows folder is about 4 secs. After installing of any application which copies its files to Windows folder the time grows. I've tried to uninstall the application, the files are gone, free space is as before, number of files in Windows folder is the same as before, but the slowdown persists.
After installing Manila 2D for example my Windows folder takes up to 40 secs to open and everything slowed down (boot, opening apps from Windows).
Anything I can think of now is maybe a filesystem problem? (\Windows inode corrupted somehow, probably relayed to the fact that it is linked to ROM files)
P.S. I have SPV M3100 (TyTN) with WM6.
Thanks for any advice except hard reset
I Want To Know IF There Is Any Way That I Can Hide Programs Or Mask Them SO That They Don't Show Up On The Programs List And Also Hide Any Files Associated With The Program
HELP
Any Help Please
It's difficult to answer without knowing what you are trying to accomplish. Why would you want to hide programs on your own phone?
Anyway, your best luck will be with small programs, the kind that run as a single executable, that you can put somewhere on the SD card.
Im Sure Im Not The Only One With These Issues
My Girlfriend Was Always Questioning Me About Why I Always Kept My Phone Locked And Would Not Answer It When I Was Around Her So I Put A Program Called Magicall On My Phone I Don't Know If Your Familiar With That But You Can Screen Certain Calls Well As She Always Does Whenever I Leave My Phone Unlocked She Went Thru It When I Was In The Shower She Saw The Program But Couldn't Get Into It Sp She Went On The Internet To Find Out What It Was And Then She Wanted To Know Why It Was On My Phone And We've Been Arguing Ever Since So Please Help Me Id You Can It Would Be Much Appreciated Thank You In Advance
I don't have a technical answer..sounds more like it's a trust issue. Besides locking the phone, only thing I can think of is install on sd...but then you have to remember to remove the sd card when you put the phone down.
If this was a pc, I'd say install the private stuff on an encrypted volume like TrueCrypt. Not sure if there's anything like that for ppc.
This would probably work...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-freeotfe4pda-v3-00.html
But I'm telling you, it will be a real PITA to manage a setup like this. Methinks it would be easier to just get straight with the gf, but I know very little.
i tried to download the program but it said that it was not a valid ppc application any more suggestions
old_school_dave said:
This would probably work...
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-freeotfe4pda-v3-00.html
But I'm telling you, it will be a real PITA to manage a setup like this. Methinks it would be easier to just get straight with the gf, but I know very little.
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Here is a solution if you are not trying to be open with gf:
Have the program cab on sd card renamed to something that would never be used by gf, such as erasememory.cab. Use program when you need it. I don't think this will work if you are trying to use a program to keep her from finding out about other gf, you may want to use the thing from Men in Black that erases her memory.
The program from earlier, or some other virtual encryption device may work, but you may have issues due to the fact that you are running a program tied into so many others (phone, sms, etc). You may make your phone pretty unstable.
Why don't you tell her that you accidently replied to a text that sent you spam messages and you were trying some freeware program to block, or that you were getting a call from some random number that was harrassing you and you were trying this program to see if it would stop the calls. You gotta think on your feet if you are going to prevent the ***** session after she found out. Careful if she pulls the verizon/sprint bill and checks sms/calls.
if what im trying to do is not possible then is there anyway to change the icon or mask the program im up for any suggestions right now other than being honest cause I love my women
"i tried to download the program but it said that it was not a valid ppc application any more suggestions"
exe files in general are install ment to be run on the pc with the pda connected not directly on the pda!
about hiding programs then
\windows\start menu\programs and remove the shortcut goes along way
after I deleted the shortcut I tried going into my documents to open the program but it didn't open is there another way to open it also I tried changing the name of the program with this method and it worked but is there a way I can change the icon because that would be perfect thanks for your input it is much APPRECIATED and if there's anything I can help you with let me know
rsturgis0601 said:
after I deleted the shortcut I tried going into my documents to open the program but it didn't open is there another way to open it also I tried changing the name of the program with this method and it worked but is there a way I can change the icon because that would be perfect thanks for your input it is much APPRECIATED and if there's anything I can help you with let me know
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Here is how you mask the icon.
Use total commander and navigate to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and find that .lnk file: delete it.
Find another .lnk file and copy to pasteboard. Go to another folder and paste it there (just as long as the other folder doesn't have the same link). Go into properties of that copied link and click on shortcut tab at the top. In the target field, click on File and navigate to Program Files/(DIRECTORY OF YOUR PROGRAM)/(EXECUTABLE FILE THAT OPENS YOUR PROGRAM) and click OK. Click File/Rename and call it something benign or something she wont click (like Erase Phone Memory).
You will then cut to pasteboard and navigate back to Windows/Start Menu/Programs and paste that file. You will then use that file to start the program. You could also change the name of the directory folder in program files if she knows how to navigate around in total commander/ file explorer. It will still show up in task manager as what it is though, and same goes for x button/ pocket plus.
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Thanks Got It You Just Helped Me Take My Relationships To A Whole New Level
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Glad to help you be so devious. Happy mongering.
Running windows 8 on my Main System and was having trouble gettin sickbeard and couch potato to run on startup.
In windows 7 I accomplished it by putting shortcuts in
C:\Users\Account Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Start Up\
The same folder exists in Windows 8 but placing a shortcut there wasn't working for Sickbeard and buggy for Couchpotato and SABnzb.
However there is an equivalent folder for Metro:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Progams\Start up\
After placing the shortcuts there it is working perfectly.
(Tried task scheduler to launch SB, CP and SAB but that also didn't work)
is this still working? I am having trouble getting sickbeard or couchpotato to launch on startup on the Release Preview
EDIT: Yes it is thanks. I was having problems finding that folder but putting it into chrome's URL bar worked for some reason.
BUMP: Turns out it's not working.. turned on computer this morning and CP + SB didn't start. :S tis a damn shame.
try adding a reg entry here...
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
add the program you want to load to that list and see what happens, im in the middle of something at the mo and cant try it but it should work just fine.
note you only should use one of them
CU Current users, for user specific programs
LM Local machine, for all users
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try adding a reg entry here...
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
add the program you want to load to that list and see what happens, im in the middle of something at the mo and cant try it but it should work just fine.
note you only should use one of them
CU Current users, for user specific programs
LM Local machine, for all users
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Thanks for the information, this makes them appear in the Startup tab of Task Manager, but doesn't make them start on boot :S I believe it's something to do with the apps themselves rather than Windows 8. Maybe it changes the way it does things or something :S