I tried to do a search about this, but nothing came up. For some reason, whenever I tried to open my Windows folder using Resco, it takes about 8-10 seconds before it opens up. I don't know what program I've installed that can be causing this. In fact, I even hard resetted and restored using one of my latest backups. The folder opens up normally and quickly, but then a few syncs later, it goes back to taking 8 sec to open the folder (so, only the Windows is affected). I'm thinking maybe it's some dll file that resco or the built-in file explorer are trying to read, but just a conjecture. Please advise if you have any suggestions.
is resco installed in the main memory or storage card?
Opening the windows folder is always slow - it has to gather info on every file, from ROM (which is slow anyway) and then gather icons for every .exe. Disable showing icons for rom files in your settings (I use gsfinder, but I'm sure Resco does this too).
V
I have resco installed in the main memory. I can try disabling the icon display. The only thing disappointing here is it was opening the Windows folder fine, until suddenly it slowed down (overnight). I tried to figure out what program I installed in the interim, but couldn't find anything. This has happened before, but was corrected with a previous backup restored. Then happened again after a few weeks. I just wish there is an answer, instead of me blaming it on software incompatibility. B/c if that's the case, I have to be careful about installing every program in the future. And with WM5, you can't always uninstall programs cleanly.
ganglion5 said:
I tried to do a search about this, but nothing came up. For some reason, whenever I tried to open my Windows folder using Resco, it takes about 8-10 seconds before it opens up.
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One way - overclock your PDA.
Speaking of overclock. Where can I find the omap overclocker? Excuse my ignorance, but I did a search on the net, it links from one site to another, but I can never find the actual site for the download. Does anyone know?
I too have noticed this problem with opening the Windows folder. I have the following observations:
1: Normally when I tap the windows folder it opens up before the spinning coloured wheel has completed one full turn.
2: When the slow down occurs it takes about 4 spins of the colured wheel before the windows folder opens up.
3: Once the slow down has occurred it can be noticed both in Resco file explorer as well as the original windows file explorer.
4: I have noticed that this slow down in opening the Windows folder is also accompanied with a slow down of the boot up time. In my case when things are working nromally a boot up takes 1 Minute and 30 Seconds. (this is the time between when I press the reset button to the time when the today screen has fully redrawn). Once the problem has occurred the boot time increased to 2 Minute and 5 seconds.
5: In my case this problem has occurrred most of the time when I have installed a new software after installing NetFront 3.3. In my case the solution that has worked is to uninstall Netfront 3.3 and then again reinstall it. In other words if I install any new software I first have to remove Netfront 3.3, install the new software and then reinstall Netfront 3.3.
By the way my device is an i-mate Jasjar but the observations are quite similar to the prophet.
Kind Regards
same here guys.. It is obvious that slow down accure after active sync or new application install. Then it makes me think it has to do with registry modification, once windows folder has been modified? Forgive me my ignorance, I’m not a programmer.. And this is just observation in an effort to find a couse and solution. Any ideas? Anybody? Cuz this is really getting on my nerves. This prophet is disappointing me a big time I have magician and prophet and when I compare two phones, with prophet over clocked to 240 (this is optimal speed before it crashes) and magician with its normal speed, both phones have same applications running and the difference is like driving the porche and old opel! Where magician is a porche! I can watch high quality, full 600 mb movie on magician without a flinch! And prophet is barely moving!! I got to tell you, I love the design and everything, but by putting an OMAP processor with WM 5 (which is slow as it is) HTC really screwed up! First they try to make a PDA out of phone, and then they are taking it back from PDA to a phone.. I’m selling it I guess Atom is the next thing for me. It’s just to darn expensive
Smrz, I think you pretty much hit it on the nose with netfront. I noticed that on my old dopod 818pro and now the jamin, the slow down occurred after netfront was installed. But I dismissed that it was due to netfront b/c I think I reinstalled it, and then it was back to normal. But I didn't think about netfront causing a conflict only IF YOU INSTALL NEW APPLICATIONS. I think I'll try reinstalling netfront again, and see if it works. What's frustrating with wm5 is I can't cleanly uninstall applications anymore. Is this unique to my machine, to prophet, or to WM5 in general. Everytime I uninstall, it says it can't do it, but it'll remove the application name from the Add/Remove menu. Meanwhile, I have to go delete the folder in program files manually. And who knows what happened to my registry and dll files during all this. BTW, anyone know where I can get that overclocker?
Windows folder
Hi,
any solution found to this problem? My normal time of opening the Windows folder is about 4 secs. After installing of any application which copies its files to Windows folder the time grows. I've tried to uninstall the application, the files are gone, free space is as before, number of files in Windows folder is the same as before, but the slowdown persists.
After installing Manila 2D for example my Windows folder takes up to 40 secs to open and everything slowed down (boot, opening apps from Windows).
Anything I can think of now is maybe a filesystem problem? (\Windows inode corrupted somehow, probably relayed to the fact that it is linked to ROM files)
P.S. I have SPV M3100 (TyTN) with WM6.
Thanks for any advice except hard reset
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I was annoyed that the atom did not have a little program like the "running programs" on the mini, so it got me thinking about replacing it. Instead of accessing the memory manager I made a little app to put on my today launcher (see my sig) so I could get a list of the processes.
The program itself works (even though I think I did it a bit back to front) but there is one problem. In all versions of the os before wm5 my listview works fine. In wm5 the state image list, ie using LVSIL_STATE dose not work. I do not have any programing tools for wm5 and I cant find any info regarding how it handles state images. Any info would be appreciated.
Also is there a way to get an icon onto the recently used programas list in the start menu - without putting the exe/lnk into the start menu folder?
Here is the program if anyone wants to try it
http://odeean.veritel.com.au/ORDprocessManager/processManager.exe
I also found that using
ListView_SetImageList(hwndListView, himlTopLevel, LVSIL_STATE);
screwed up the imagelist used by the file explorer. I would not have expected the explorer to use a state image list to hold the file etc icons, and why should my one have anything to do with it. In the other versions of the os the imagelist one creates belong to the listview and get cleaned up by it when it is destroyed.
the ImageList_AddIcon also fails.
I found the cause.
For years I have been putting 0 in the flags parameter of ImageList_Create.
It always worked because I think it defaults to ILC_COLOR4. The atom has an 18bit colour depth so I guess it needs to be more specific. I tried ILC_COLOR and it worked fine with no more explorer problems. This leaves the question about why the explorer was effected, a bit worrying.
This tiny app takes 2 seconds to do its thing on the XDA 1 and 4 seconds on the atom. Sad, very sad.
...the new version is on the link above now. I noticed that on wm5 cprog comes up as safe to stop (it shouldn't) so don't press stop all if you want your phone to work.
I have a new (four days old) Cingular 8125, and it got a bit antsy on me today.
After working flawlessly for three days, I was installing some applications on a new 1 GB mini SD card, soft resetting after each installation, when it returned after a soft reset and suddenly had no phone network. No "E" indicator, and an exclamation point next to the signal strength indicator. Uh-oh, thought I, before I broke down and cried! OK - not really, but I definitely wasn't happy about this!
When I checked the network settings, it said No Network under the GPRS setting. I called Cingular, spoke with a data rep, and performed a hard reset. (Had to use the "Clear Storage" app - holding the keys and soft reset wouldn't work). As soon as it returned from the hard reset, the Cingular software the rep had pushed out to me installed and phone service was restored. Which is a good thing!
But now I can no longer sync the device via Activesync 4.1. Nor can I install any applications; when I try, I get a dialog saying that the installation was unsuccessful. Windows installer or CAB installation, makes no difference. I can't successfully install anything on the device. I had scrubbed the mini SD card, except for a few folders filled with icons for use mostly in Pocket Informant and PocketBreeze. I figured that it couldn't hurt to leave them there. I also can no longer delete files or folders from the device. It's similar to not having Administrator rights on a Windows XP machine. As if everything is read-only, but I cannot change it.
I copied Smartkey over to the mini SD card via Explorer in Activesync, but whenever I reset the device I get a dialog saying that Smartkey cannot run, unknown developer, etc. I can't close the dialog right away, but it does disappear after about 30 seconds. If I open File Explorer and tap on the smartkey.exe file it does start and work normally - until the next time I soft reset.
Activesync will connect with the device but will not sync. Throws the attached error message. So I can explore the device but not sync. I tried deleting the partnership, performing a "repair installation" of AS 4.1 - no change.
As for the applications I had installed prior to all of this, they all seem to be benign - with two possible exceptions.
In Main Memory:
Pocket Informant
PocketBreeze
ContactBreeze
iLauncher
On the mini SD:
Resco File Explorer 2005
PDAMill's Gamebox Solitaire, Gems, and Classic
Dinarsoft's HandySwitcher and HandyMenu
Phatnotes 4.7
ListPro 4
Tweaks2k2
Resco Sudoku
Resco Keyboard Pro
All versions that claim to support WM5. All applications seemed to be working fine, with the exception of Resco Sudoku and Resco Keyboard Pro. The only change I had made with Tweaks2k2 was showing the time and date in the taskbar. Resco Sudoku locked the device up, with just a black background and 13 large colored orbs on the screen. I uninstalled it immediately. Resco Keyboard kept giving error messages when I tried to select it as the SIP. I had just uninstalled Resco Keyboard and performed a soft reset when it returned from that reset it had no phone network. Note that all of these applications had been working fine up until this point in time, except Resco Sudoku and the Resco Keyboard Pro. Hmm... Needless to say, I suspect that the Resco apps have a problem with WM5. But I owuld think that a hard reset should have cleared up anything those apps had done. Maybe not, though.
Anyway, that's when I called Cingular. Does anyone have any idea at all as to what could be causing all of this? Or better yet, what could fix this? Please!!
I'm very familiar and comfortable in WM2003/SE, but I'm completely new to WM5, so I'm not even sure where to look for troubleshooting.
Thanks in advance for any advice!
EDIT: Really sorry the thumbnail is so small - I didn't think that it would be, Click on it to read it. Thanks again.
EDIT: Error should read: 0x8000ffff Sorry about that.
I think the fact that you cannot delete files/folders on the device is key. If you cannot modify folders, then the installer can't either, so software installations will fail. Does this also apply to files and folders on your card? I'm guessing that it does not, and that your supposition (key folders and perhaps registry keys are RO now) is correct. Unfortunately, you can't modify folder permissions using activesync explorer and you can't install an application that can either. Catch-22.
Have you tried a hard reset subsequent to your discussion with the Cingular rep? Perhaps this will re-create an installation with the standard settings.
Sleuth255 said:
I think the fact that you cannot delete files/folders on the device is key. If you cannot modify folders, then the installer can't either, so software installations will fail. Does this also apply to files and folders on your card? I'm guessing that it does not, and that your supposition (key folders and perhaps registry keys are RO now) is correct. Unfortunately, you can't modify folder permissions using activesync explorer and you can't install an application that can either. Catch-22.
Have you tried a hard reset subsequent to your discussion with the Cingular rep? Perhaps this will re-create an installation with the standard settings.
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No, I haven't hard reset again yet - I wanted to wait and see what responses I get.
I did, however, find one of the Activesync logs though, and all sync attempts since the last one that worked have the following two error messages:
"TraceToFile -> ERROR in CChangeTracker::GetMaxCounterInProfileCleanupTable : hr = 0x800ffff - ctapi.cpp(3695)
TraceTraceToFile -> ERROR in CRAPIDevicePrivate:HandlePackets : hr 0x800ffff - RAPIDevicPriv.cpp(443)
And then some whcih are very similar, but with the numbers in parenthesis changing.
Look familiar to anyone?
Thanks.
OK, I just found a Microsoft KB article (Q243349) that seems to indicate that an 0x08000ffff error is Microsoft SQL Database-related.
??? Baffling.
Actually I do have an MSSQL Server on my PC - one of the programs that I run installed it and requires it. Maybe if I disable it?
EDIT: Error should read: 0x8000ffff Sorry about that.
I just noticed that wherever the errors start throughout the log, the only two applications mentioned - other than Activesync, of course - are Resco Explorer and Ilium's eWallet, which is really odd. I never installed eWallt on this device, though it has been giving me fits on my AximX50v ever since they introduced SyncPro about a year or so ago.
My 8125 is up and running again.
I performed a hard reset and this time I downloaded and installed AS 4.1 on my notebook and tried synching with that. My notebook does not have an SQL server installed, and it's a "virgin" AS install - neither Resco Explorer 2005 nor eWallet Pro has ever been installed on that PC.
I can't say for sure, and I'm still investigating, but I believe, based on the Microsoft KB article that I referenced above, that the SQL server on my desktop PC, and possibly eWallet Pro and/or Resco Explorer 2005, is the cause of my recent grief.
The MSKB article specifically targets the SQL database - same version as mine - as a known cause along with certain databases, and since both eWallet and Resco Explorer 2005 are mentioned throughtout the WCESComm.log, always in the first four or five lines of the error messages contained in the log, I suspect that eWallet's DB may have somehow triggered the mayhem, as their SyncPro has caused endless losses of my eWallet data since Ilium introduced it. It's possible that Resco Explorer 2005 just happened to be the application I had just installed before the device went belly up for a bit there. Actually, Resco Keyboard Pro was installed right after that, but since RE 2005 is mentioned in every error log item, and since Resco has a special page on their site mentioning how "...an issue with the way that Windows Mobile 5 handles installing software that may result in a failed installations...". I've written Juro about the issue, to give him a heads up just in case.
So all is well for now. Hopefully I will be able to continue synching my other PPCs (five), all with WM2003/SE, on the desktop, as the SQL thing is only supposed to affect the WM5 OS.
If anyone else runs into a similar situation, please send me a PM or post here. I'd be glad to share whatever I discover on this, and I would also be interested in seeing how other devices were affected, common issues, etc.
hello,
I have an O2 XDA Orbit for the past 4 weeks but have had an ongoing
problem that when I install some programs the phone just keeps going
round and round soft resetting itself!!!
I have tried to eliminate which program (if any one in particular) is causing
this and I have now had enough. The ONLY way to stop this happening is to
remove the battery. Then I have to do a hard reset and lose all the programs
that I have installed. I even used SPB backup to help things along and even
when I think I have got a good working setup that can be re-installed the
phone can repeat this behaviour some time later for no apparent reason.
Also if I add a couple more programs it then happens again anyway.
Does anyone have any idea why this is and how I can fix it PLEASE?
It's driving me nuts, I love the phone but can not be doing with this.
I list below the details from the boot up screeen in case they are of help:
1.25.0001
1.25.0000
02.67.90
1.25.0.0
If anyone has a solution it would be most appreciated, THANKS.
If you have any other questions please ask.
All the best - Michael
And what programs did you add, a list would probably help
These are among them but...
Hi and thanks for interest but as I said above I do not seem able
to find out which program (if any) is the culprit? Even when I have installed
a few and made a "stable" backup a few soft resets later and it happens
again! It's doing my head in. I have tried different programs in various order
and things appear to be fine - then repeated soft reset going round and round
and the only way to stop is remove battery and hard reset, re-install programs
and do it all over again. Even the "stable" backups appear to be no good???
It occasionally happens with only a few programs installed! Would a "firmware"
upgrade be possible or help do you think? How would that be done safely?
However, here is a list of programs tried - I had to do a hard reset to get these:
anton tomov pocketmechanic
binaryfish all mobile mines
blue point studio pocket earth
conduits pocket player
dinarsoft memaid
electric pocket ringo
handmark tetris, monopoly and trivial pursuit
lakeridge wisbar lite
omega one dominoes and checkers
opera browser
pocketmax pocketwords
pocketmind pocketmusic
resco keyboard
resco picture viewer
spb backup
spb clearvue pdf
spb gprs monitor
spb pocket plus
webis pocket informant 2007
That's it - in no special order or combination...
I personally can not find any one of them as being responsible?
In case you are wondering the phone came already unlocked from O2 as an
upgrade. I am on Virgin, it has a 1gig micro sd card fitted.
Hoping someone will have the answer, many thanks,
All the best - Michael
P.S. I have other programs I would like to install but it seems so futile at
the moment. I also forgot to say that tomtom navigator 6 is installed too.
And generally speaking when the programs are running without any bother
they all seem to work fine, no crashes or hangs, hope this helps?
Finally, I am using Microsoft Activesync 4.2 and it seems to make no
difference whether programs are installed in main memory or storage card?
Thanks again - Michael
anton tomov pocketmechanic is low level software so most likely to cause issues.
But really, just try installing only a few of the apps and using it for a few days. Random resets are unusual of course, and if it was hardware or firmware, it would happen all the time. But if it doesn't happen after a hard reset, your issue is software, not hardware/firmware.
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i had the same problem. the device did not reboot when removing the storage card. i took out some files from the Programs directory and found out, that some where causing eboot. for me it was SK tools folder. when i removed that, the device did not reboot. i dont know what it is...
Thanks for replies so far
I am taking note of suggestions so PLEASE keep them coming.
If anyone needs any more info just ask, I shall be checking
here on a regular basis to see if anyone has more ideas.
Ttfn, all the best - Michael
I've found two programs thus far that send my Orbit into this behaviour, SK Tools and Tengo. Once sussed, cold restart, reinstall without these, and all is stable.
Neither of these are on your list, so I'd be interested to know once you find out the rogue program!
See this post for a fix?
Thanks for your suggestions so far, keep 'em coming please.
In the meantime I have had a very positive and promising response here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1116164#post1116164
Look at post number #2 to find out exactly what it might be and fix?
cheers - Michael
Still doing it!
Hi All,
Well what can I say? I have been very careful and am STILL with this lousy
problem! Had enough, feel like chucking the rotten thing in the bin!
Would it be any good or easy for me to update the ROM, WM5, or anything
else that may help? It is already unlocked.
It's no good to me if I am not able to run the programs that I want, unless
they are known to cause problems? But right now it's about impossible to
discover what is causing this? Could it be a combination of programs?
If so, I have no chance of working it out?
All the best to you, Michael
I had the same problem for the first time last week and I had pocket mechanic only recently installed. I have hard reset the device and the problem has gone. So I installed the program again and hopefully I will not have any further issues?
Other programs installed include:
Resco keybord explorer and picture viewer
Sbp Brain evolution
Space reclaimer
Airscanner Anti Virus
Code Wallet Pro 6
Sprite Backup
Tom Tom 5
Worldmate
Towncompass Dataviewer
Monopoly
Pocket Mini golf 2
Age of Empires
Pac-Man
Oxford Dictionary
Soft key applet
Htc Phone pad
Anyone else having these issues please list what programs you are using or have just recently installed so we can find any possible trends?
I have also noticed since reinstalling my applications that the voices on tom tom sometime sound strange until I exit application and run it again.
Orbit reboots constantly
I also have a brand new orbit, which also started constantly rebooting after installing loads of software.
I eventually fixed it by removing the storage card (containing SK Tools) removing that software maually with a card adapter.
Meanwhile I rebooted the phone without the card, it managed to boot properly. I removed the program (in system settings) and then turned it off and replaced the card. It now works fine.
I think SK Tools is the main offender! But if you still want a list of my installed progs, just ask.
It's not just SKTools m8, nothing really to do with any particular program to be honest. When installing a program, when finished it should have an OK button at top right hand corner, if it doesn't then you know as soon as you reboot it will go round in loops. The only way to prevent this if you don't see the OK button is to un-install the program before rebooting, then try and install it again, it will work, it's just some programs don't work first time. ALSO any programs which at end of installation say something like "ppc must now be rebooted, do you wish to reboot now? press ok for now or cancel to continue" you SHOULD NOT let the program reboot your system as that will again cause the orbit to go round in loops again, you should press cancel (the program has still been installed don't worry) then hold the power button down until the shut down message pops up, then shut down manually and restart, that way it will work fine. Trust me, I've sussed it out from like day two.
Rebooting again!
Yeah,my mistake. I spoke too soon!
It did settle down for a bit. But it does keep looping, but now it even does it at random times, I haven't installed anything for a while but it's really unstable.
Your right about the 'OK' thing in the top corner it does disappear.
But I have the additional problem, which is on another thread with the 2gb storage card getting garbled unless I soft reset the device- my device often gets into a loop after I soft reset to get my sd card data back (especially after using TomTom or Rescoe explorer) - i thought i'd fixed that too, cos the phone behaved perfectly for a week...and then it all went horribly wrong again!
Do these these storage card and rebooting problems happen on ALL orbits? Or should I just replace my handset?
I removed these two programs and...
Hi All,
it's been a while since I posted here but I have found (so far) that
when I un-installed SPB Pocketplus and Resco keyboard my XDA Orbit has
NOT EVEN ONCE gone into the re-booting loop! I may try O2 plus?
I am also now happily running too many programs to list - all with no
apparent problem other than the storage card issue below.
Because of this I am not going to use them again until I feel very brave
and patient? Also I have the problem of garbled files and folders on my
2gb Sandisk (made in Taiwan) storage card, bought from USA on Ebay?
At the moment it reads 5.37gb! The garbled files are NOT deleteable and
have a file size up to 1.450gb! Does any one have an answer to this yet?
But so far my programs are running OK, fingers crossed. I shall see if anyone
finds a definite answer to this by following other threads.
Hope this is informative, all the best - Michael
This is the way to put CORRECT pressure on the memory card:
put the memory card in and make sure the flap clicks into place and does not bounce back up.
put the sim flap down and make sure it is clicked firmly in place.
once above steps are done get an EXTRA simcard and place it on the sim gate directly above the active sim.
carefully put battery back in and hold in place with finger whilst replacing back cover.
all should be fine
I have been installing loads of stuff on my orbit and a couple of times it has gone into this reset loop you guys are on about. I was wondering if anyone knows if this issue would persist after a hard reset and restore. I have spb backup, recently installed, but I have never needed to restore. It never happened before the last 3 things I installed: Magic Button, CLauncher, and spb shell, which I would hate to uninstall any of.
2020vision
HI 2020VISION............
I KNOW THE SOLUTION.........ITS EASY.
JUST REMOVE TOMTOM's Start FILE FROM MINISD CARD THATS IT.......THIS WILL ALLOW YOUR POCKETPC TO STOP REBOOTING....U R DONE....IF U STILL CAN'T DO IT ......I'LL EXPLAIN U A BIT MORE IN MY NEXT POST AND U DON'T NEED TO HARD RESET YOUR POCKETPC...........HAVE FUN..........
FOOTLEFT
'DESIGN TO DO THE JOB'.
Sounds simple but...
May I ask if ALL the others with this same problem also
have TOMTOM installed? I was beginning to think that it
could have had something to do with one or more SPB programs
as these are seeming to be a common link? What do others think?
Will certainly test what you say when/if it happens again.
Thanks - Michael
P.S. Could you still leave your detailed explanation anyway? Ta.
I've had this problem once a while ago. At that time I was installing a lot of different programs and the one caused the problem was probably HTC X-Button. I was so scary that I hard reset and reinstalled things without it.
Yesterday the same problem occured after I ran Spb Backup. This time I tried with a simple solution by removing the MicroSD card and installing it back. This did help. I ran Spb Backup without a problem.
So I guess this may have something to do with a vulnerability of the Orbit to low-level software.
I'll keep an eye to see if this would happen again.
BUSPBP
Guys, I have a question.
I used to have an iPaq 6300 running WiMo 2003, when selecting input methods there is an arrow beside the input method you click on to bring up the menu that lets you choose between Keyboard, Block Recognizer, Transcriber or Letter Recognizer. This was instantaneous! The moment you press the arrow, the menu pops up and you can switch input methods instantly.
On my new Atom Exec though this is not the case. You have to press the input method icon first, which brings up the arrow, then click on the arrow, then wait like a minute before the menu pops up. What gives? Is this really how all WiMo5 devices work? Is this a problem with WiMo5 or with the Atom Exec in particular?
It is annoying because it makes it harder to switch between input methods. Could someone tell me the score on this?
Thanks,
My bad, I fiddled around with the Atom a bit more and fixed the problem by doing a Hard Reset. Now I set the PPC back up to how I like it and it's working flawlessly.
Hmm after some time the problem seems to be back. It looks like the phone bogs down with stuff after a while, causing this problem. I don't feel like reformatting, does anyone have a fix, or a program that cleans up and optimizes your PPC?
this is an issue of WM5.
It also happens to WM6. The more applications you installed, the slower it will get (not sure what kind of application though). Well, Atom Life has 1GB of ROM. Of course people will start installing a lot of applications.
Anyway, I read somewhere in the forum stating that if you have more than 10 today plugin installed, the SIP will take a some time to appear. The plugins don't necessary be active. I mean, the ones not active are also counted. I have not confirmed this yet though.
I have more than 40 programs installed in my atom. It didn't slow down that much (only 5 to 10%) but what I usually do is to backup everything first before I install anything. At the first sign of speed reduction or bugs, I just do a restore. I have more than 15 today plug-ins both active and inactive. However, one thing I noticed is that it is better if you install your non-essentials to your sd card. It doesn't matter if you do a hard reset, they will still be there and if you use a tray launcher or clauncher, you can configure the icons to reappear even if you do not re-install them. This way, you reduce the clutter in your main memory and at the same time save you the trouble of re-installing. The reconfiguration of the executable icon will take some time but it is still faster than re-installing 30+ programs. It is important though to maintain a storage of no less than 17MB. Once you go below this, you will really see the reduction in speed and will be pissed off with your PPC. By the way, do not use Opera or any modified IE (tab browsing and downloading. by the way, Opera is good with downloading but sucks in handling your PPC's memory) while doing something else with your PPC. It will really really slow down your PPC.
i posted this same thread sometime ago, but there was no solution. At last i discover the culprit. I see the difference in speed when i install Embedded Windows VB Runtimes. regardless whether i install it in the memory card or the main memory.
Got this info from another site, it really works.
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make WM5 SIP faster (加快輸入法) (not a joke)
X51V ENG A12 + Ce-Star 2.8R2A + Monster SIP + MS IME for JAP works well.
But I am not very sure "every WM5 PPC" works well, too.
After installing a lot of softwares, WM5 SIP becomes slow.
You can make it fast again.
1. install resco explorer 5.42 and resco registry at \Device
2. use resco registry to export the registry of
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID
to a file (like CLSID.reg) at PPC, or SD, or CF
donnot edit or modify CLSID.reg
3. use resco registry to delete CLSID
4. use resco explorer to execute CLSID.reg to import the registry CLSID back
5. turn off PPC, soft reset
It is amazing like magic.
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Weird... it really works. Everything back to normal. Menu is displayed instantly after tapping on the list button.
I'm using Atom Life WM6, so this mean that it also works for WM6.
Urk Double Post
Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
I have no perceptible slowdown on the Exec other than the input method switching. I just need to fix that!
My main memory is about 85% free (83.6MB) and yes I do install all the non-essentials to the SD card.
MightyOx I'll try your method hopefully this fixes this issue. While "upgrading" to WM5 I thought it would be a completely better experience, but I'm finding WM5 has issues and that quite a few things were done better in WM2K3 (like the SIP switching speed) or how about creating a new SMS message in WM2K3 you only needed 2 taps here in WM5 you need 3. *roll eyes* sometimes I wonder what developers are thinking when they take steps backwards like this.
On the other hand I love being able to rotate the screen, and Voice Command 1.6 was totally worth it.
Mochan said:
Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
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It's not O2's software. It just happen to be the next software you've installed before the problem show itself. It can be any software. As I said in my previous post, it will happen after you've installed a certain number of software. I think it is WM5 and WM6 related.
Anyway, the workaround is already posted. So, I have no more complain about this problem.
Yeah, looks like it's not. I tried Mightyox's method, THANK YOU SIR my Atom is running fine again. It's like once you pile over some registry entries over the CLSID directory, it takes time to get it. So the solution is to delete the registry key and "re-enter" it so it goes back on top. Very strange but if it works then more power.
Tried it on my flame...Wow...works like a charm
I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomoly. Sometimes my unit seems to run extremely slow...like several processes are running in the background and hogging all the resources. I make sure that all "Running Programs" are closed and it is not during a "checking email" cycle, my internet history and cookies are cleared too. Sometimes I can click on something and wait up to 20 seconds before the "wheel" stops rotating and it completes the requested task. When this happens, it is 2-3 times slower than my HTC Touch.
Then, there are other times when everything seems to be running fine. Everything is quick and responsive with no noticable delays.
Background: My unit is the European X7500 version with WinMo 6 installed by the "selling store". The only additional programs I have installed are AvantGo, Google Maps, SPB GRPS Monitor, Skype, Sprite Backup and Vito Audio Notes. All were "clean installs" with no error messages and if memory serves correctly, I was noticing symptoms of these issues prior to installing most of these programs. I currently have 81.60 MB storage memory available and 76.90 MB program memory available.
ROM Version: 2.21.405.2
ROM Date: 07/20/07
Radio Version: 1.50.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.83.7020.20H
ExtROM Version: 2.21.405.101
It seems that there is something at work here but I can't seem to put my finger on what is causing it. Is it possible the the installation of WinMo 6 has something to do with this problem?
Although I am a long-time Windows PDA user, I have no experience at upgrading OS's, ROM's or hacking the registry entries (or even reading them for that matter). Any assistance in isolating the cause of this frustrating problem would be greatly appreciated.
Download latest rom!
Hey thats cool, I also have an HTC Advantage and an HTC Touch!
Anyway, I would recommend that you download and install the latest WM6 rom from the HTC e-club site, then install all your programs on the Micro drive. You can also try defragmenting the drive using Pocket Mechanic or similar utillity!
Good luck!
Thanks for the tip branko but from what I understand, I already have the most up-to-date version of WM6 (listed in OP). Also, I do not have a lot of programs installed (6) and half of these are installed on the MD. Defrag doesn't make sense as it is only a couple of months old with very little added and nothing removed.
That's why I am leaning towards something that may not have gone completely "tickety boo" during the installation of WM6. I am just trying to figure out if anyone else has experienced this problem after upgrading before I try a complete re-install of the OS. I was hoping that there is some way to be able to look for whatever is causing this slowdown. Kind of like using Task Manager in XP to see what processes, if any, are running in the background.
GPRS monitor has been known to cause slowness. Try Hard reset and not install GPRS monitor and see if that helps. When I got my X7500, it had GPRS monitor on the CD and I installed it and I had the same issues. Uninstalling the GPRS did not help, I had to Hard reset and then load my apps and not load the GPRS monitor.
I know is sucks to hard reset and have to reload your apps, but since you only have a few, it is worth a try.
Good luck
Thanks eagle 1. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Too bad if that is the problem because I kind of like the GPRS Monitor. And the funny thing is, I am also running GPRS Monitor on my HTC Touch without problems and 1/3 the processor speed.
I just checked the versions and my Advantage has 2.4.5 build 923 (from original CD) and my Touch has 2.5.1 build 225 (download purchase). So, I wonder if the older version has issues with WM6 and the newer version has fixed those issues.
Well, there is only one way to find out for sure. I will try a hard reset tomorrow when I get some time (too tired tonight) and report back. If I find that this has corrected the issue, I may try loading the newer version and see what happens.
Thanks again.
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GPRS monitor has been known to cause slowness. Try Hard reset and not install GPRS monitor and see if that helps. When I got my X7500, it had GPRS monitor on the CD and I installed it and I had the same issues. Uninstalling the GPRS did not help, I had to Hard reset and then load my apps and not load the GPRS monitor.
I know is sucks to hard reset and have to reload your apps, but since you only have a few, it is worth a try.
Good luck
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eagle1,
You've just posted the tip of the day! I've always noticed that my taskbar icon took a long time to change from 3G to H, but never occurred to me that the GPRS monitor was the culprit. After uninstalling it,I already noticed a marked reduction in time taken to change from 3G to H, and my web browsing speed has improved! I'm going to try a hard reset when I got some free time later and see if it improves even further.
Just a question before I "pull the pin" and do a hard reset. I noticed that in the Remove Programs listing it shows Microsoft Office Mobile. A hard reset will not uninstall this, will it?
Also, under the Programs directory, Adobe Reader LE and Windows Live will also survive a hard reset, correct?
Thanks.
anything is the remove programs folder will get deleted but dont worry everything you need including Office is just a link away. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364366
Ok, I just noticed that MS Office Mobile is actually on one of the CD's that came with the unit. I wondered why it was showing up in the Remove Programs folder. I received my device with WM6 already installed from the dealer so I didn't realize that it's not pre-installed in WM6.
Also, another question regarding the hard reset. I synchronize with Outlook on my laptop and my contact database has about 1,600 contacts. After a hard reset, would it be better to delete my existing ActiveSync partnership and create a new one. Or, would connecting to my existing partnership after a hard reset cause any problems.
I am assuming that because my current partnership was originally set up to sync both ways, that once connected after a hard reset, it will realize there are no contacts on the device and automatically transfer them over from my laptop. Is there anything I am missing.
And one last thought based on eagle 1's tip regarding GPRS Monitor not playing nice, has anyone else come across any other programs that cause problems and I should stay away from? That includes the Sprite Backup Tool included on the disc.
Is there a problem with sprite backup? I don't notice any yet.
Sorry, I should have clarified. I don't know if there is a problem with Sprite. I am just asking if anyone else has found it causes any trouble.
My reasons for asking are that I have just done a hard reset and so far I have not loaded any programs. Once I sync my Outlook contacts back, I will think about re-installing individual programs. But this time, I will do it one-by-one.
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Sorry, I should have clarified. I don't know if there is a problem with Sprite. I am just asking if anyone else has found it causes any trouble.
My reasons for asking are that I have just done a hard reset and so far I have not loaded any programs. Once I sync my Outlook contacts back, I will think about re-installing individual programs. But this time, I will do it one-by-one.
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Oh yes, you should reinstall all your program one by one. If not, you'll simply bring back whatever that caused the slow down.