I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomoly. Sometimes my unit seems to run extremely slow...like several processes are running in the background and hogging all the resources. I make sure that all "Running Programs" are closed and it is not during a "checking email" cycle, my internet history and cookies are cleared too. Sometimes I can click on something and wait up to 20 seconds before the "wheel" stops rotating and it completes the requested task. When this happens, it is 2-3 times slower than my HTC Touch.
Then, there are other times when everything seems to be running fine. Everything is quick and responsive with no noticable delays.
Background: My unit is the European X7500 version with WinMo 6 installed by the "selling store". The only additional programs I have installed are AvantGo, Google Maps, SPB GRPS Monitor, Skype, Sprite Backup and Vito Audio Notes. All were "clean installs" with no error messages and if memory serves correctly, I was noticing symptoms of these issues prior to installing most of these programs. I currently have 81.60 MB storage memory available and 76.90 MB program memory available.
ROM Version: 2.21.405.2
ROM Date: 07/20/07
Radio Version: 1.50.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.83.7020.20H
ExtROM Version: 2.21.405.101
It seems that there is something at work here but I can't seem to put my finger on what is causing it. Is it possible the the installation of WinMo 6 has something to do with this problem?
Although I am a long-time Windows PDA user, I have no experience at upgrading OS's, ROM's or hacking the registry entries (or even reading them for that matter). Any assistance in isolating the cause of this frustrating problem would be greatly appreciated.
Download latest rom!
Hey thats cool, I also have an HTC Advantage and an HTC Touch!
Anyway, I would recommend that you download and install the latest WM6 rom from the HTC e-club site, then install all your programs on the Micro drive. You can also try defragmenting the drive using Pocket Mechanic or similar utillity!
Good luck!
Thanks for the tip branko but from what I understand, I already have the most up-to-date version of WM6 (listed in OP). Also, I do not have a lot of programs installed (6) and half of these are installed on the MD. Defrag doesn't make sense as it is only a couple of months old with very little added and nothing removed.
That's why I am leaning towards something that may not have gone completely "tickety boo" during the installation of WM6. I am just trying to figure out if anyone else has experienced this problem after upgrading before I try a complete re-install of the OS. I was hoping that there is some way to be able to look for whatever is causing this slowdown. Kind of like using Task Manager in XP to see what processes, if any, are running in the background.
GPRS monitor has been known to cause slowness. Try Hard reset and not install GPRS monitor and see if that helps. When I got my X7500, it had GPRS monitor on the CD and I installed it and I had the same issues. Uninstalling the GPRS did not help, I had to Hard reset and then load my apps and not load the GPRS monitor.
I know is sucks to hard reset and have to reload your apps, but since you only have a few, it is worth a try.
Good luck
Thanks eagle 1. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Too bad if that is the problem because I kind of like the GPRS Monitor. And the funny thing is, I am also running GPRS Monitor on my HTC Touch without problems and 1/3 the processor speed.
I just checked the versions and my Advantage has 2.4.5 build 923 (from original CD) and my Touch has 2.5.1 build 225 (download purchase). So, I wonder if the older version has issues with WM6 and the newer version has fixed those issues.
Well, there is only one way to find out for sure. I will try a hard reset tomorrow when I get some time (too tired tonight) and report back. If I find that this has corrected the issue, I may try loading the newer version and see what happens.
Thanks again.
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GPRS monitor has been known to cause slowness. Try Hard reset and not install GPRS monitor and see if that helps. When I got my X7500, it had GPRS monitor on the CD and I installed it and I had the same issues. Uninstalling the GPRS did not help, I had to Hard reset and then load my apps and not load the GPRS monitor.
I know is sucks to hard reset and have to reload your apps, but since you only have a few, it is worth a try.
Good luck
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eagle1,
You've just posted the tip of the day! I've always noticed that my taskbar icon took a long time to change from 3G to H, but never occurred to me that the GPRS monitor was the culprit. After uninstalling it,I already noticed a marked reduction in time taken to change from 3G to H, and my web browsing speed has improved! I'm going to try a hard reset when I got some free time later and see if it improves even further.
Just a question before I "pull the pin" and do a hard reset. I noticed that in the Remove Programs listing it shows Microsoft Office Mobile. A hard reset will not uninstall this, will it?
Also, under the Programs directory, Adobe Reader LE and Windows Live will also survive a hard reset, correct?
Thanks.
anything is the remove programs folder will get deleted but dont worry everything you need including Office is just a link away. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364366
Ok, I just noticed that MS Office Mobile is actually on one of the CD's that came with the unit. I wondered why it was showing up in the Remove Programs folder. I received my device with WM6 already installed from the dealer so I didn't realize that it's not pre-installed in WM6.
Also, another question regarding the hard reset. I synchronize with Outlook on my laptop and my contact database has about 1,600 contacts. After a hard reset, would it be better to delete my existing ActiveSync partnership and create a new one. Or, would connecting to my existing partnership after a hard reset cause any problems.
I am assuming that because my current partnership was originally set up to sync both ways, that once connected after a hard reset, it will realize there are no contacts on the device and automatically transfer them over from my laptop. Is there anything I am missing.
And one last thought based on eagle 1's tip regarding GPRS Monitor not playing nice, has anyone else come across any other programs that cause problems and I should stay away from? That includes the Sprite Backup Tool included on the disc.
Is there a problem with sprite backup? I don't notice any yet.
Sorry, I should have clarified. I don't know if there is a problem with Sprite. I am just asking if anyone else has found it causes any trouble.
My reasons for asking are that I have just done a hard reset and so far I have not loaded any programs. Once I sync my Outlook contacts back, I will think about re-installing individual programs. But this time, I will do it one-by-one.
Rick76 said:
Sorry, I should have clarified. I don't know if there is a problem with Sprite. I am just asking if anyone else has found it causes any trouble.
My reasons for asking are that I have just done a hard reset and so far I have not loaded any programs. Once I sync my Outlook contacts back, I will think about re-installing individual programs. But this time, I will do it one-by-one.
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Oh yes, you should reinstall all your program one by one. If not, you'll simply bring back whatever that caused the slow down.
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Hello
I have just purchased a new XDA Mini S - to replace my dying XDA II (which was giving me electrical shocks and starting to lose data).
Ash (an extremely knowledgeable and helpful O2 shop assistant in Uxbridge) directed me to this site so I could get the details required to to set-up and run my new PDA in Corporate mode.
After set-up was completed, I synchronised the Mini with my work computer (via Activesynch 4.1) - allowing me to download my calender, task and contact items.
And that's it so far!! ...no other memory-intensive applications installed, ...no massive ringtone files, ...nothing!!
However, the unit is running very slow in comparison to my old XDA II. When I am working in the Calender application and go forward several weeks, followed by selecting the 'return to today' icon, it takes about 10 seconds to react. Similar behaviour exists in 'Tasks', when returning to the 'Today screen', and when using the menus - so, basically, all of the time. My previous unit reacted instantly - and that was fully loaded with software.
What can I do? I love the new Mini and the upgraded spec it offers - but is is unworkable - as described above.
If I invested in a mini-SD card could I utilise the additional space as program memory rather than storage?
Hopefully somebody can help. I am reasonably I.T. savvy - but only as a user and not much experience at progrommer / developer level - so basic intructions my be needed!!
Thanks in advance
Gary
I think my previous message was too long...
Basically, how can i speed up my XDA Mini S which is already running in Corporate Mode?
Thanks
Gary
Soft-reset once a day? My Vario runs acceptably quickly after a soft-reset, but slows down over time.
Hi Zathras
Thanks for the tip...
...but I have been 'soft-resetting' several times per day - and it doesn't seem to help.
I do have several years of appointments in my diary. Would reducing this to only 2 weeks of history help?
Thanks
Gary
Hi Gary,
I had a Magician before and also feel the 02 mini s (Wizard) is way slower.
I have read elsewhere that the Wizard has a silly anti-virus program that always runs in memory and will chew up memory.
The boards indicate that to use a different extended rom. The only problem is I cannot get a view on which portions of the o2 Rom should be deleted and which should be kept.
Let me know if you find a way.
Thanks
Adrian
I have noticed a few times after running active snc on my mini s it slows right down till i soft reset.
could it be the same problem?
Hi Adrian
Thanks for your help...
I'm not a programmer / developer - so wouldn't know where to start with ROM edits, etc...
Knowing my luck I would probably do something unrecoverable!!
Is there an easy way to do this? Is it done in the Wizard directly - or via the PC?
...and is it a file that's viewable in explorer?
Excuse my basic approach to all of this. Maybe there is a tutorial somewhere on the boards...
Thanks
Gary
does it slow down after active sync has run ?
Goto to settings memory and make sure all your programs are shut down especially activesync as this seems to slow it down more than anything. Also download check notifications and remove any entries in red that have probably appeared especially if you have been soft resetting several times per day.
You really should see a speed increase if you complete the above. Activesync really does slow your wizard down and more than a few duplicate entries found and removed with check notifications will really help.
See if that helps.
It seems to be the same before and after activesynch!!!
I closed down all running programs and the Calendar is still dead slow...
How do you 'download check notications'?
Thanks again
Gary
http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/ppc_cn_overview.html
Thanks for your help
Do I need to install both 'Check Notifications' and 'Notification Clearfix'.
I am correct in presuming that 'Notification Clearfix' prevents future duplications whereas 'Check Notifications' lets you see all events, whether or not thet are offending?
Gary
try tweaks 2k2 there are some reg hack that help with peformance
I've installed the one that runs at startup, but it only helps clean up the list at startup - not after startup; so if you add alarms/etc., the list can get mucky again. So I've also got it under an icon to run from time to time Need to find a nice scheduling application that can run other applications - just have it run every 8 hours or so
Try some other apps apart from your calendar, it could be that there is just too much info in there. You may just find its not as speedy as your last device, but thats just the way it is. Its a trade off and maybe if the speed is a big issue the wizard isnt for you.
I heard a lot of people saying the wizard is slow before I bought one, but I found its speed fine for what I expect from the device. I find my uni much quicker, but again its that trade off, my uni is much bigger.
The wizard needs to be loved for what it is not for what you want it to be. :lol:
I'm trying to love it - believe me !!!
...it is only the speed of the calendar searches that really annoys me - I can cope with the sluggish moments.
And I have just discovered something... when you cross one month to the next, the calendar freezes
If someone can do the following for me - it will verify whether it is specifically my unit that is at fault.
Open Calendar, switch to 'Agenda View', and then, using the directional keypad, arrow right until you cross over one month - say January to February. Does the calendar stop working?
When it rcovers, hit the 'go to today' icon. What happens?
I think there is a bug!!
Gary
Got the mini s ab out a month ago from O2 shop. I just did a hard reset and didn't install any of the O2 crap. Is running quite fast and everything just seems fine. I have tried what you said on the calendar. I don't have any problem. The calendar program just keep running without stopping or anything. After I close the calendar, I pressed on the 'Today' button and everything seems fine.
Thanks for trying for me - I appreciate it...
I just need to find a solution that works for me.
I already have the most basic install possible - corporate mode - so wonder if there are any more avenues to go down...
Cheers for now
Gary
Garrington said:
And I have just discovered something... when you cross one month to the next, the calendar freezes....I think there is a bug!!
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Just tried this on my Charmer in case it was a WM5 bug and I can't replicate it - all works fine.
Try doing a hard reset, and then just when the little box comes up saying something like 'customising in 3 seconds' quickly press the soft-reset button.
Voila! - basic WM5 with no more o2 crap installed! You'll have to set up the gprs and mms yourself, but if you phone cust. sevices then they can e-mail you the instructions...
It should run faster than before.
Apologies if this has been posted before but cant find it in the search...
1) On soft reset, I loose sms messages, even if I have closed "Text Messages" with any of the 3rd party "close" button programs.
2) On soft reset, I lose BT338 GPS connectivity, have to remove the device and port then re add - have read on here that you need to uncheck secure connection, I've tried it with both checked, and unchecked and still fails
3) On soft reset, whatever background image I have dissapears, but a portion is left behind in the drop down window.
4) Im with Orange, which of the cabs in the Extended ROM can I delete and still be able to use the phone.
5) When using Sprite Backup It does not back up either calendar or contacts, even though I have Personal Databases checked (or if it does, it doesnt restore them)
I dont want a load of Orange bloatware using up the memory, just enough for phone, gprs connection and WiFi to work.
Getting quite used to doing hard resets now, had issue over the weekend with one app causing Picture viewer to lock up!
Many thanks from a grateful Newbie!
jedi23mi9 said:
4) Im with Orange, which of the cabs in the Extended ROM can I delete and still be able to use the phone.
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Once you have flashed your phone and done the reset afterwards, letting the customisations install they are no longer of any use to you until you do a hard reset, at which point the ROM will reload and the customisations with it.
If you use backup software after you delete the entire contents of your ExtendedROM you won't lose a thing.
Have you got the right version of Sprite? I think the latest is 5.1?
If you have no luck with it, give SPB a try. I've used it on my Alpine and Uni with great success.
Have you tried flashing with the latest ROM for the other problems? I'm on the latest Orange ROM and so far things seem to be working fine with SMS, desktop and BT pairing.
Thanks,
Sprite is 5.1.0 Build 1417 - downloaded last friday
ROM version seem to be same as yours, 1.30.90WWE 02/24/06 so I guess thats most upto date Orange ROM (had device just under 3 weeks)
Grr @ self for not reading sig !
Another thing to try is the Qtek ROMs? Assuming you're unlocked of course.
Good Luck with it =)
Im not brave enough to unlock it
I absolutley adore the beast, and its spot on for what i need, just wish I could resolve the minor issues that whilst not spoil the use of it, nevertheless are annoying. BT338 gets hot fix in seconds, but takes me 5 mins to un pair then reapir the blasted BT connection
Going back to the extended ROM, what I meant was do I need all the cab files that are in there to use the phone, as in can I remove some, then Hard reset and have a smaller number actually load up.
I dont use the Orange today screen for one, and given that there is only 25Mb of usable program memory out of 50, I'm wondering how much of that is caused by TSR orange code that can be removed at build
EDIT: had a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...0&postorder=asc&highlight=reg+tweaks&start=25 but still non the wiser (someone listed the Orange FR cabs)
There is an easy way to do this that doesn't require unlocking the ExtROM, which you have to do to be able to delete anything in there.
When you hard reset, tap the screen, sync the touchscreen, cut and paste, then Windows loads up.
Right after that it will give you 3 seconds before loading the contents of the ExtROM. If you hit the reset pin during that three seconds it won't load anything in there.
You can then browse to it with a decent file manager and install the .CABs by hand.
But, don't be afraid of unlocking, it takes one program and two registry edits. Gives you 10MB of space to play with too.
Ah, my fault, read som much about unlocking that I thought you meant the sim card.
Yip, I've run the ExtRom unlocker and found out how to look inside
Not really that bothered about storage on the device, more about having a nice trim OS so that i have more program space as the kernel is smaller
Thanks again
got me a 8525 mayb 2 weeks ago now and i love it
my device information is as follows:
rom version: 1.34
radio version: 1.16
for anymore information just ask =)
got a 2 gb microsd card, case shouldve arrived already but im guessing will show up momentarily
i got the follow programs installed:
deniel herrero's bandswitch
securegsm phonesettings
htc x-button
microsoft live search
image speed-dialer today plugin freeware
resco explorer with registry add-in
logmein remote control
greesoftware gsplayer
sbsh pocket weather w/ vga icons
pocket nester
omegaone dominoes and checkers
hexacto casino
the majority of these programs are on my microsd card
and as far as my main memory, i have:
Storage: 32.45 mb free out of 56.22
Program: 29.74 mb free out of 49.08
as of yesterday, i noticed that after my phone was on the charger and went on standby for a bit, hitting the power button to revive it would get no reaction, i would have to soft reset it so this is annoying...
and not only that, i find myself soft resetting quite too frequently, few times a day. is this normal? and can this b bad for my phone?
i do love the phone tho
thanks in advance for any help
Firstly soft re-setting will not do any harm, in fact some folks set device up to run a third party application to soft reset at certain intervals just to ensure nothing un-toward is running or going to crash device.
There are quite a number of people who find a crash on coming out of standby.
I'd start with the routine stuff to check first: (which you may well have checked already!!)
1. Did you install a new application near the time when problems began? If so try uninstalling it. If tracked to a particular application you may still be able to use it with new settings. Can you also try temporarily removing the pocket weather application?? - this may be attempting an internet connection.
2. when putting onto charge you use your HTC X button to check nothing is still running and all is fully closed.
3. Providing you are not using Push mail, you ensure Active Sync does not start up, by using e.g. The Fake Server Trick
See how that lot goes first
Mike
appreciate the help. i think it may b pocketnester thats giving me trouble, just installed it yesterday.
thanks again
hello,
I have an O2 XDA Orbit for the past 4 weeks but have had an ongoing
problem that when I install some programs the phone just keeps going
round and round soft resetting itself!!!
I have tried to eliminate which program (if any one in particular) is causing
this and I have now had enough. The ONLY way to stop this happening is to
remove the battery. Then I have to do a hard reset and lose all the programs
that I have installed. I even used SPB backup to help things along and even
when I think I have got a good working setup that can be re-installed the
phone can repeat this behaviour some time later for no apparent reason.
Also if I add a couple more programs it then happens again anyway.
Does anyone have any idea why this is and how I can fix it PLEASE?
It's driving me nuts, I love the phone but can not be doing with this.
I list below the details from the boot up screeen in case they are of help:
1.25.0001
1.25.0000
02.67.90
1.25.0.0
If anyone has a solution it would be most appreciated, THANKS.
If you have any other questions please ask.
All the best - Michael
And what programs did you add, a list would probably help
These are among them but...
Hi and thanks for interest but as I said above I do not seem able
to find out which program (if any) is the culprit? Even when I have installed
a few and made a "stable" backup a few soft resets later and it happens
again! It's doing my head in. I have tried different programs in various order
and things appear to be fine - then repeated soft reset going round and round
and the only way to stop is remove battery and hard reset, re-install programs
and do it all over again. Even the "stable" backups appear to be no good???
It occasionally happens with only a few programs installed! Would a "firmware"
upgrade be possible or help do you think? How would that be done safely?
However, here is a list of programs tried - I had to do a hard reset to get these:
anton tomov pocketmechanic
binaryfish all mobile mines
blue point studio pocket earth
conduits pocket player
dinarsoft memaid
electric pocket ringo
handmark tetris, monopoly and trivial pursuit
lakeridge wisbar lite
omega one dominoes and checkers
opera browser
pocketmax pocketwords
pocketmind pocketmusic
resco keyboard
resco picture viewer
spb backup
spb clearvue pdf
spb gprs monitor
spb pocket plus
webis pocket informant 2007
That's it - in no special order or combination...
I personally can not find any one of them as being responsible?
In case you are wondering the phone came already unlocked from O2 as an
upgrade. I am on Virgin, it has a 1gig micro sd card fitted.
Hoping someone will have the answer, many thanks,
All the best - Michael
P.S. I have other programs I would like to install but it seems so futile at
the moment. I also forgot to say that tomtom navigator 6 is installed too.
And generally speaking when the programs are running without any bother
they all seem to work fine, no crashes or hangs, hope this helps?
Finally, I am using Microsoft Activesync 4.2 and it seems to make no
difference whether programs are installed in main memory or storage card?
Thanks again - Michael
anton tomov pocketmechanic is low level software so most likely to cause issues.
But really, just try installing only a few of the apps and using it for a few days. Random resets are unusual of course, and if it was hardware or firmware, it would happen all the time. But if it doesn't happen after a hard reset, your issue is software, not hardware/firmware.
V
i had the same problem. the device did not reboot when removing the storage card. i took out some files from the Programs directory and found out, that some where causing eboot. for me it was SK tools folder. when i removed that, the device did not reboot. i dont know what it is...
Thanks for replies so far
I am taking note of suggestions so PLEASE keep them coming.
If anyone needs any more info just ask, I shall be checking
here on a regular basis to see if anyone has more ideas.
Ttfn, all the best - Michael
I've found two programs thus far that send my Orbit into this behaviour, SK Tools and Tengo. Once sussed, cold restart, reinstall without these, and all is stable.
Neither of these are on your list, so I'd be interested to know once you find out the rogue program!
See this post for a fix?
Thanks for your suggestions so far, keep 'em coming please.
In the meantime I have had a very positive and promising response here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1116164#post1116164
Look at post number #2 to find out exactly what it might be and fix?
cheers - Michael
Still doing it!
Hi All,
Well what can I say? I have been very careful and am STILL with this lousy
problem! Had enough, feel like chucking the rotten thing in the bin!
Would it be any good or easy for me to update the ROM, WM5, or anything
else that may help? It is already unlocked.
It's no good to me if I am not able to run the programs that I want, unless
they are known to cause problems? But right now it's about impossible to
discover what is causing this? Could it be a combination of programs?
If so, I have no chance of working it out?
All the best to you, Michael
I had the same problem for the first time last week and I had pocket mechanic only recently installed. I have hard reset the device and the problem has gone. So I installed the program again and hopefully I will not have any further issues?
Other programs installed include:
Resco keybord explorer and picture viewer
Sbp Brain evolution
Space reclaimer
Airscanner Anti Virus
Code Wallet Pro 6
Sprite Backup
Tom Tom 5
Worldmate
Towncompass Dataviewer
Monopoly
Pocket Mini golf 2
Age of Empires
Pac-Man
Oxford Dictionary
Soft key applet
Htc Phone pad
Anyone else having these issues please list what programs you are using or have just recently installed so we can find any possible trends?
I have also noticed since reinstalling my applications that the voices on tom tom sometime sound strange until I exit application and run it again.
Orbit reboots constantly
I also have a brand new orbit, which also started constantly rebooting after installing loads of software.
I eventually fixed it by removing the storage card (containing SK Tools) removing that software maually with a card adapter.
Meanwhile I rebooted the phone without the card, it managed to boot properly. I removed the program (in system settings) and then turned it off and replaced the card. It now works fine.
I think SK Tools is the main offender! But if you still want a list of my installed progs, just ask.
It's not just SKTools m8, nothing really to do with any particular program to be honest. When installing a program, when finished it should have an OK button at top right hand corner, if it doesn't then you know as soon as you reboot it will go round in loops. The only way to prevent this if you don't see the OK button is to un-install the program before rebooting, then try and install it again, it will work, it's just some programs don't work first time. ALSO any programs which at end of installation say something like "ppc must now be rebooted, do you wish to reboot now? press ok for now or cancel to continue" you SHOULD NOT let the program reboot your system as that will again cause the orbit to go round in loops again, you should press cancel (the program has still been installed don't worry) then hold the power button down until the shut down message pops up, then shut down manually and restart, that way it will work fine. Trust me, I've sussed it out from like day two.
Rebooting again!
Yeah,my mistake. I spoke too soon!
It did settle down for a bit. But it does keep looping, but now it even does it at random times, I haven't installed anything for a while but it's really unstable.
Your right about the 'OK' thing in the top corner it does disappear.
But I have the additional problem, which is on another thread with the 2gb storage card getting garbled unless I soft reset the device- my device often gets into a loop after I soft reset to get my sd card data back (especially after using TomTom or Rescoe explorer) - i thought i'd fixed that too, cos the phone behaved perfectly for a week...and then it all went horribly wrong again!
Do these these storage card and rebooting problems happen on ALL orbits? Or should I just replace my handset?
I removed these two programs and...
Hi All,
it's been a while since I posted here but I have found (so far) that
when I un-installed SPB Pocketplus and Resco keyboard my XDA Orbit has
NOT EVEN ONCE gone into the re-booting loop! I may try O2 plus?
I am also now happily running too many programs to list - all with no
apparent problem other than the storage card issue below.
Because of this I am not going to use them again until I feel very brave
and patient? Also I have the problem of garbled files and folders on my
2gb Sandisk (made in Taiwan) storage card, bought from USA on Ebay?
At the moment it reads 5.37gb! The garbled files are NOT deleteable and
have a file size up to 1.450gb! Does any one have an answer to this yet?
But so far my programs are running OK, fingers crossed. I shall see if anyone
finds a definite answer to this by following other threads.
Hope this is informative, all the best - Michael
This is the way to put CORRECT pressure on the memory card:
put the memory card in and make sure the flap clicks into place and does not bounce back up.
put the sim flap down and make sure it is clicked firmly in place.
once above steps are done get an EXTRA simcard and place it on the sim gate directly above the active sim.
carefully put battery back in and hold in place with finger whilst replacing back cover.
all should be fine
I have been installing loads of stuff on my orbit and a couple of times it has gone into this reset loop you guys are on about. I was wondering if anyone knows if this issue would persist after a hard reset and restore. I have spb backup, recently installed, but I have never needed to restore. It never happened before the last 3 things I installed: Magic Button, CLauncher, and spb shell, which I would hate to uninstall any of.
2020vision
HI 2020VISION............
I KNOW THE SOLUTION.........ITS EASY.
JUST REMOVE TOMTOM's Start FILE FROM MINISD CARD THATS IT.......THIS WILL ALLOW YOUR POCKETPC TO STOP REBOOTING....U R DONE....IF U STILL CAN'T DO IT ......I'LL EXPLAIN U A BIT MORE IN MY NEXT POST AND U DON'T NEED TO HARD RESET YOUR POCKETPC...........HAVE FUN..........
FOOTLEFT
'DESIGN TO DO THE JOB'.
Sounds simple but...
May I ask if ALL the others with this same problem also
have TOMTOM installed? I was beginning to think that it
could have had something to do with one or more SPB programs
as these are seeming to be a common link? What do others think?
Will certainly test what you say when/if it happens again.
Thanks - Michael
P.S. Could you still leave your detailed explanation anyway? Ta.
I've had this problem once a while ago. At that time I was installing a lot of different programs and the one caused the problem was probably HTC X-Button. I was so scary that I hard reset and reinstalled things without it.
Yesterday the same problem occured after I ran Spb Backup. This time I tried with a simple solution by removing the MicroSD card and installing it back. This did help. I ran Spb Backup without a problem.
So I guess this may have something to do with a vulnerability of the Orbit to low-level software.
I'll keep an eye to see if this would happen again.
BUSPBP
Guys, I have a question.
I used to have an iPaq 6300 running WiMo 2003, when selecting input methods there is an arrow beside the input method you click on to bring up the menu that lets you choose between Keyboard, Block Recognizer, Transcriber or Letter Recognizer. This was instantaneous! The moment you press the arrow, the menu pops up and you can switch input methods instantly.
On my new Atom Exec though this is not the case. You have to press the input method icon first, which brings up the arrow, then click on the arrow, then wait like a minute before the menu pops up. What gives? Is this really how all WiMo5 devices work? Is this a problem with WiMo5 or with the Atom Exec in particular?
It is annoying because it makes it harder to switch between input methods. Could someone tell me the score on this?
Thanks,
My bad, I fiddled around with the Atom a bit more and fixed the problem by doing a Hard Reset. Now I set the PPC back up to how I like it and it's working flawlessly.
Hmm after some time the problem seems to be back. It looks like the phone bogs down with stuff after a while, causing this problem. I don't feel like reformatting, does anyone have a fix, or a program that cleans up and optimizes your PPC?
this is an issue of WM5.
It also happens to WM6. The more applications you installed, the slower it will get (not sure what kind of application though). Well, Atom Life has 1GB of ROM. Of course people will start installing a lot of applications.
Anyway, I read somewhere in the forum stating that if you have more than 10 today plugin installed, the SIP will take a some time to appear. The plugins don't necessary be active. I mean, the ones not active are also counted. I have not confirmed this yet though.
I have more than 40 programs installed in my atom. It didn't slow down that much (only 5 to 10%) but what I usually do is to backup everything first before I install anything. At the first sign of speed reduction or bugs, I just do a restore. I have more than 15 today plug-ins both active and inactive. However, one thing I noticed is that it is better if you install your non-essentials to your sd card. It doesn't matter if you do a hard reset, they will still be there and if you use a tray launcher or clauncher, you can configure the icons to reappear even if you do not re-install them. This way, you reduce the clutter in your main memory and at the same time save you the trouble of re-installing. The reconfiguration of the executable icon will take some time but it is still faster than re-installing 30+ programs. It is important though to maintain a storage of no less than 17MB. Once you go below this, you will really see the reduction in speed and will be pissed off with your PPC. By the way, do not use Opera or any modified IE (tab browsing and downloading. by the way, Opera is good with downloading but sucks in handling your PPC's memory) while doing something else with your PPC. It will really really slow down your PPC.
i posted this same thread sometime ago, but there was no solution. At last i discover the culprit. I see the difference in speed when i install Embedded Windows VB Runtimes. regardless whether i install it in the memory card or the main memory.
Got this info from another site, it really works.
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make WM5 SIP faster (加快輸入法) (not a joke)
X51V ENG A12 + Ce-Star 2.8R2A + Monster SIP + MS IME for JAP works well.
But I am not very sure "every WM5 PPC" works well, too.
After installing a lot of softwares, WM5 SIP becomes slow.
You can make it fast again.
1. install resco explorer 5.42 and resco registry at \Device
2. use resco registry to export the registry of
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID
to a file (like CLSID.reg) at PPC, or SD, or CF
donnot edit or modify CLSID.reg
3. use resco registry to delete CLSID
4. use resco explorer to execute CLSID.reg to import the registry CLSID back
5. turn off PPC, soft reset
It is amazing like magic.
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Weird... it really works. Everything back to normal. Menu is displayed instantly after tapping on the list button.
I'm using Atom Life WM6, so this mean that it also works for WM6.
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Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
I have no perceptible slowdown on the Exec other than the input method switching. I just need to fix that!
My main memory is about 85% free (83.6MB) and yes I do install all the non-essentials to the SD card.
MightyOx I'll try your method hopefully this fixes this issue. While "upgrading" to WM5 I thought it would be a completely better experience, but I'm finding WM5 has issues and that quite a few things were done better in WM2K3 (like the SIP switching speed) or how about creating a new SMS message in WM2K3 you only needed 2 taps here in WM5 you need 3. *roll eyes* sometimes I wonder what developers are thinking when they take steps backwards like this.
On the other hand I love being able to rotate the screen, and Voice Command 1.6 was totally worth it.
Mochan said:
Aha! O2's proprietary software is a bunch of Today plugins! That may be the culprit. I noticed the a while later though after the O2 software was installed.
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It's not O2's software. It just happen to be the next software you've installed before the problem show itself. It can be any software. As I said in my previous post, it will happen after you've installed a certain number of software. I think it is WM5 and WM6 related.
Anyway, the workaround is already posted. So, I have no more complain about this problem.
Yeah, looks like it's not. I tried Mightyox's method, THANK YOU SIR my Atom is running fine again. It's like once you pile over some registry entries over the CLSID directory, it takes time to get it. So the solution is to delete the registry key and "re-enter" it so it goes back on top. Very strange but if it works then more power.
Tried it on my flame...Wow...works like a charm