Problems too early? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

got me a 8525 mayb 2 weeks ago now and i love it
my device information is as follows:
rom version: 1.34
radio version: 1.16
for anymore information just ask =)
got a 2 gb microsd card, case shouldve arrived already but im guessing will show up momentarily
i got the follow programs installed:
deniel herrero's bandswitch
securegsm phonesettings
htc x-button
microsoft live search
image speed-dialer today plugin freeware
resco explorer with registry add-in
logmein remote control
greesoftware gsplayer
sbsh pocket weather w/ vga icons
pocket nester
omegaone dominoes and checkers
hexacto casino
the majority of these programs are on my microsd card
and as far as my main memory, i have:
Storage: 32.45 mb free out of 56.22
Program: 29.74 mb free out of 49.08
as of yesterday, i noticed that after my phone was on the charger and went on standby for a bit, hitting the power button to revive it would get no reaction, i would have to soft reset it so this is annoying...
and not only that, i find myself soft resetting quite too frequently, few times a day. is this normal? and can this b bad for my phone?
i do love the phone tho
thanks in advance for any help

Firstly soft re-setting will not do any harm, in fact some folks set device up to run a third party application to soft reset at certain intervals just to ensure nothing un-toward is running or going to crash device.
There are quite a number of people who find a crash on coming out of standby.
I'd start with the routine stuff to check first: (which you may well have checked already!!)
1. Did you install a new application near the time when problems began? If so try uninstalling it. If tracked to a particular application you may still be able to use it with new settings. Can you also try temporarily removing the pocket weather application?? - this may be attempting an internet connection.
2. when putting onto charge you use your HTC X button to check nothing is still running and all is fully closed.
3. Providing you are not using Push mail, you ensure Active Sync does not start up, by using e.g. The Fake Server Trick
See how that lot goes first
Mike

appreciate the help. i think it may b pocketnester thats giving me trouble, just installed it yesterday.
thanks again

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New XDA Mini S - Too slow to use ...even in 'Corporate Mode'

Hello
I have just purchased a new XDA Mini S - to replace my dying XDA II (which was giving me electrical shocks and starting to lose data).
Ash (an extremely knowledgeable and helpful O2 shop assistant in Uxbridge) directed me to this site so I could get the details required to to set-up and run my new PDA in Corporate mode.
After set-up was completed, I synchronised the Mini with my work computer (via Activesynch 4.1) - allowing me to download my calender, task and contact items.
And that's it so far!! ...no other memory-intensive applications installed, ...no massive ringtone files, ...nothing!!
However, the unit is running very slow in comparison to my old XDA II. When I am working in the Calender application and go forward several weeks, followed by selecting the 'return to today' icon, it takes about 10 seconds to react. Similar behaviour exists in 'Tasks', when returning to the 'Today screen', and when using the menus - so, basically, all of the time. My previous unit reacted instantly - and that was fully loaded with software.
What can I do? I love the new Mini and the upgraded spec it offers - but is is unworkable - as described above.
If I invested in a mini-SD card could I utilise the additional space as program memory rather than storage?
Hopefully somebody can help. I am reasonably I.T. savvy - but only as a user and not much experience at progrommer / developer level - so basic intructions my be needed!!
Thanks in advance
Gary
I think my previous message was too long...
Basically, how can i speed up my XDA Mini S which is already running in Corporate Mode?
Thanks
Gary
Soft-reset once a day? My Vario runs acceptably quickly after a soft-reset, but slows down over time.
Hi Zathras
Thanks for the tip...
...but I have been 'soft-resetting' several times per day - and it doesn't seem to help.
I do have several years of appointments in my diary. Would reducing this to only 2 weeks of history help?
Thanks
Gary
Hi Gary,
I had a Magician before and also feel the 02 mini s (Wizard) is way slower.
I have read elsewhere that the Wizard has a silly anti-virus program that always runs in memory and will chew up memory.
The boards indicate that to use a different extended rom. The only problem is I cannot get a view on which portions of the o2 Rom should be deleted and which should be kept.
Let me know if you find a way.
Thanks
Adrian
I have noticed a few times after running active snc on my mini s it slows right down till i soft reset.
could it be the same problem?
Hi Adrian
Thanks for your help...
I'm not a programmer / developer - so wouldn't know where to start with ROM edits, etc...
Knowing my luck I would probably do something unrecoverable!!
Is there an easy way to do this? Is it done in the Wizard directly - or via the PC?
...and is it a file that's viewable in explorer?
Excuse my basic approach to all of this. Maybe there is a tutorial somewhere on the boards...
Thanks
Gary
does it slow down after active sync has run ?
Goto to settings memory and make sure all your programs are shut down especially activesync as this seems to slow it down more than anything. Also download check notifications and remove any entries in red that have probably appeared especially if you have been soft resetting several times per day.
You really should see a speed increase if you complete the above. Activesync really does slow your wizard down and more than a few duplicate entries found and removed with check notifications will really help.
See if that helps.
It seems to be the same before and after activesynch!!!
I closed down all running programs and the Calendar is still dead slow...
How do you 'download check notications'?
Thanks again
Gary
http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/ppc_cn_overview.html
Thanks for your help
Do I need to install both 'Check Notifications' and 'Notification Clearfix'.
I am correct in presuming that 'Notification Clearfix' prevents future duplications whereas 'Check Notifications' lets you see all events, whether or not thet are offending?
Gary
try tweaks 2k2 there are some reg hack that help with peformance
I've installed the one that runs at startup, but it only helps clean up the list at startup - not after startup; so if you add alarms/etc., the list can get mucky again. So I've also got it under an icon to run from time to time Need to find a nice scheduling application that can run other applications - just have it run every 8 hours or so
Try some other apps apart from your calendar, it could be that there is just too much info in there. You may just find its not as speedy as your last device, but thats just the way it is. Its a trade off and maybe if the speed is a big issue the wizard isnt for you.
I heard a lot of people saying the wizard is slow before I bought one, but I found its speed fine for what I expect from the device. I find my uni much quicker, but again its that trade off, my uni is much bigger.
The wizard needs to be loved for what it is not for what you want it to be. :lol:
I'm trying to love it - believe me !!!
...it is only the speed of the calendar searches that really annoys me - I can cope with the sluggish moments.
And I have just discovered something... when you cross one month to the next, the calendar freezes
If someone can do the following for me - it will verify whether it is specifically my unit that is at fault.
Open Calendar, switch to 'Agenda View', and then, using the directional keypad, arrow right until you cross over one month - say January to February. Does the calendar stop working?
When it rcovers, hit the 'go to today' icon. What happens?
I think there is a bug!!
Gary
Got the mini s ab out a month ago from O2 shop. I just did a hard reset and didn't install any of the O2 crap. Is running quite fast and everything just seems fine. I have tried what you said on the calendar. I don't have any problem. The calendar program just keep running without stopping or anything. After I close the calendar, I pressed on the 'Today' button and everything seems fine.
Thanks for trying for me - I appreciate it...
I just need to find a solution that works for me.
I already have the most basic install possible - corporate mode - so wonder if there are any more avenues to go down...
Cheers for now
Gary
Garrington said:
And I have just discovered something... when you cross one month to the next, the calendar freezes....I think there is a bug!!
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Just tried this on my Charmer in case it was a WM5 bug and I can't replicate it - all works fine.
Try doing a hard reset, and then just when the little box comes up saying something like 'customising in 3 seconds' quickly press the soft-reset button.
Voila! - basic WM5 with no more o2 crap installed! You'll have to set up the gprs and mms yourself, but if you phone cust. sevices then they can e-mail you the instructions...
It should run faster than before.

Program Memory 2MB???????????????

I have no idea what is going on with my Exec and have to keep resetting it all the time to get back the program memory which drops to between 2 and 3mb frequently even when there are no programmes running. Is this normal?
Here is what I have installed on my Exec:
Batter Bar
Program Bar
Pocket Breeze
All the above on the Today Screen.
Besides, I have Net Front
Resco File Explorer and thats pretty much it.
Last night, when surfing with Net Front, I got the error, not enough memory to open programme and then Net front shut down. I checked, the program memory was down to 2.3mb. Closed all the open programmes (only text messages and calender were open) and also went to task manager and closed all running programmes.
Thereafter, the Progam memory went up to 3mb.
But that is where it stayed unfortunately till I ultimately had to reset it and it came back to about 16mb. After texting a little and also opening my appointments, it was down again to 10mb.
I am kind of frustrated actually..... is this expected of the Exec? On my XDA II, I always had in excess of about 50Mb available and maybe that is why it is twice as fast as the universal.
PLEASE HELP......WHAT CAN I DO? THANKS ALL.
Cheers, Vikas.
PS: Spent the last two days searching for any solution on these boards visavis old posts but didnt find out how to and hence this request.
I really really appreciate all those who can help out and thank you all in anticipation.
there isnt a solution, your screwed....
Some "options" for you to consider:
soft reset regularly to get it back
use 02 corporate not the mickey mouse retail version (I use imate)
beware of all "additional" fat that the device comes with by default
read these forums in detail (about 1 month), the sticky at the beginning of the universal forum by craigie4craigie is a really really good start though highly detailed
watch out for what you sychronise, one person had a 12 megabyte PIM file for calendars and contacts. mine was 5meg due to all the calendars, so I stopped syncing all calendards and wound it back to 1meg by doing only the last two weeks.
check your emails, mms, and text files, keep em clean and clear. if syncing emails, only sync the headers or 5kb, dont do attachments.
your today screen additions are always resource hungry, and suck memory. my SPB Pocket Plus, with Weather, and Diary sucks about 8meg (28 startup without anything to 20meg), and slowly dwindles down to 10meg when I soft reset.
As it likes to cache the entire website, I did find one circumstance where for some reason the website was absoloutely massive, with pictures, giffs, fonts etc, and this zapped my memory from 20meg to 3meg. When it closed, it went back upto 12meg.
A couple of files on this site are being tested to kill unused apps memory resources, which is slightly effective.
You really want to try and keep your boot up memory to about 20meg, and it will drop to about 10meg during a days heavy usage.
Consider getting rid off:
Batter Bar
Program Bar
I have heard elsewhere that the Batter Bar in particular wasnt good for the device. As I have never really heard of either and have read lots in these forums for a year or so, then its not a good thing that I dont know of them. Maybe somebody else here could correct it.
Generally, reliable applications that you can use are SPB, Resco, and SBSH each have their own pros and cons. SPB can slow it down also, but it isnt that extensive, and if I find I really need the speed, I just disable it from the today screen, I am beta testing the newer release at the moment.
Activesync left sync'ing all day can easily kill 10meg of my memory over the whole day.
Also, what is actually in your startups, not just the today screen. With my imate, there was about 4 on install, and I got rid of all of them entirely.
There are so many tweaks, hacks, and improvements, and modifications that can be done.
Firstly though, ensure you are in corporate mode from what I have ready about the 02 version.
Seriously think about the hard reset, then be really choosely about what you install, and to where. Test each extensively after each install.
Anyway, thats enough for the moment, let me know your opionions....
So basically I'm screwed.... dont know if I like the sound of that but am sure that is the truth. :lol:
Oh well. Simon, would like to say how much I appreciate your reply and your taking the time to write all this down, that is indeed very nice of you and thanks again for this.
Regarding your message:
1. Yup will keep resetting especially after syncing (at work my Exec is always syncing/charging so guess need to reset once a day)
2. Yup using Corporate mode and not the ghastly slow O2 active desktop
3. Read and followed the Sticky post regarding tips and tricks for the Exec, installed Pocket Mechanic and did a registry cleanup along with deleting most notifications.
4. Synced my contacts/calender etc, about 4.5 Megs
5. Sms's I delete regularly so not more thatn 30 at one time. Emails are usually deleted and hardly any on the Exec.
6. Guess my batter pack and programme bar along with pocket breeze must be using up the RAM as when I soft reset, have about 18 to 19 MB free at that point which dwindles down to about 10 mb during the course of the day. If using Active Sync and then NetFront or Opera, this goes down to about 2/3MB
7. Sorry about battery bar, but meant battery pack pro (gosh I sould like such a dolt). I should get rid of it? Along with Programme Bar? What is a good alternative? SPB POcket Plus?
8. Not much else on the Today screen, just the Battery Pack Pro, Programme Bar & Pocket Breeze thats it.
Will try out your suggestion of doing a Hard Reset and loading again selective programmes, guess I need to figure out which ones even though I like the ones I have on right now. What do you think?
Once again, can't tell you how much I appreciate your taking the time and effort to help out. Thanks a ton.
Cheers, Vikas.
simon_darley said:
there isnt a solution, your screwed....
Some "options" for you to consider:
soft reset regularly to get it back
use 02 corporate not the mickey mouse retail version (I use imate)
beware of all "additional" fat that the device comes with by default
read these forums in detail (about 1 month), the sticky at the beginning of the universal forum by craigie4craigie is a really really good start though highly detailed
watch out for what you sychronise, one person had a 12 megabyte PIM file for calendars and contacts. mine was 5meg due to all the calendars, so I stopped syncing all calendards and wound it back to 1meg by doing only the last two weeks.
check your emails, mms, and text files, keep em clean and clear. if syncing emails, only sync the headers or 5kb, dont do attachments.
your today screen additions are always resource hungry, and suck memory. my SPB Pocket Plus, with Weather, and Diary sucks about 8meg (28 startup without anything to 20meg), and slowly dwindles down to 10meg when I soft reset.
As it likes to cache the entire website, I did find one circumstance where for some reason the website was absoloutely massive, with pictures, giffs, fonts etc, and this zapped my memory from 20meg to 3meg. When it closed, it went back upto 12meg.
A couple of files on this site are being tested to kill unused apps memory resources, which is slightly effective.
You really want to try and keep your boot up memory to about 20meg, and it will drop to about 10meg during a days heavy usage.
Consider getting rid off:
Batter Bar
Program Bar
I have heard elsewhere that the Batter Bar in particular wasnt good for the device. As I have never really heard of either and have read lots in these forums for a year or so, then its not a good thing that I dont know of them. Maybe somebody else here could correct it.
Generally, reliable applications that you can use are SPB, Resco, and SBSH each have their own pros and cons. SPB can slow it down also, but it isnt that extensive, and if I find I really need the speed, I just disable it from the today screen, I am beta testing the newer release at the moment.
Activesync left sync'ing all day can easily kill 10meg of my memory over the whole day.
Also, what is actually in your startups, not just the today screen. With my imate, there was about 4 on install, and I got rid of all of them entirely.
There are so many tweaks, hacks, and improvements, and modifications that can be done.
Firstly though, ensure you are in corporate mode from what I have ready about the 02 version.
Seriously think about the hard reset, then be really choosely about what you install, and to where. Test each extensively after each install.
Anyway, thats enough for the moment, let me know your opionions....
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RE THIS:
7. Sorry about battery bar, but meant battery pack pro (gosh I sould like such a dolt). I should get rid of it? Along with Programme Bar? What is a good alternative? SPB POcket Plus?
8. Not much else on the Today screen, just the Battery Pack Pro, Programme Bar & Pocket Breeze thats it.
DESELECT THE FROM YOUR TODAY SCREEN, AND IF NECESSARY THE STARTUP DIRECTORY.
THEN CHOOSE EACH ONE SEPERATELY FOR THE DAY TO SEE THE IMPACT.
ACTIVESYNC IS SUCKING THE GUTS OUT OF IT.
Resco explorer comes with a free today programme plugin, which is memory efficient.
SPB PP will do journal bar and programme features in one, but has more memory overheads.
never used pocket breeze, but lots do abd isn't likely to be the cause of memory issue.
There is large volumes of info on this forum on memory loss, and most are anticipating a major ROM update to fix.... maybe hopefully, we'll see.
You can try use Memmaid of Dinarsoft to get a list of programs running in RAM and how much of the ram they are consuming, just to get an idea of which particular program is consuming the most ram.
Heres the pocketgear shortcut:
http://www.pocketgear.com/downloads.asp?product_id=14279&prodname=MemMaid (supports WM5) 1.5
Hope this helps you to find out what memory problems you have.
First of Simon, Thanks a lot once again.
Second, sorry for the late reply but was trying out your suggestions which I have to say are invaluable.
Did a Hard Reset a couple of days ago.
Loaded back on some programmes that I really require:
At start with no sync, nothing, Free Ram is 33 mb
I then synced with the computer after loading SOTI Pocket Professional
Total Pim size: 4.5Mb
Free ram at this stage: 25mb
Then loaded on the following:
Rescoe File Explorer along with Resco Today add on
Pocket Breeze (maybe I should look for an alternative?)
Memaid
Net Front 3.3
Memory at this stage is now 22mb or so after a soft reset.
Now really missed the program bar (from Battery pack pro) so installed the Magic Button (Great programme) and PsShutXp.
Total ram now after all this, about 22mb after soft reset, normal usage, with contacts, calender, text messages open, about 18mb.
Guess I can live with this. Maybe removing battery pack pro was the solution.
Of course, the moment I connect to active sync (its on active syn the whole time I'm at the office), the ram goes down to 9mb. Guess that really sucks memory.
Now, maybe I also need to get rid of Pocket Breeze and install some other s/w to replicate it but without too much loss of RAM.
Thanks to you Simon, started using the Resco Today Plug in which I am sure hardly uses much ram. And is not bad at all.
Didnt use pocket plus as most report memory issues with it.
Certainly hope that the new ROM fixes these memory leak problems. Thanks a lot again. The Exec is now faster than before but its sad that they would make this device without enough memory or with issues such as this. The XDAII never had any such problems and to be honest, I still miss it.
Cheers, Vikas.
simon_darley said:
RE THIS:
7. Sorry about battery bar, but meant battery pack pro (gosh I sould like such a dolt). I should get rid of it? Along with Programme Bar? What is a good alternative? SPB POcket Plus?
8. Not much else on the Today screen, just the Battery Pack Pro, Programme Bar & Pocket Breeze thats it.
DESELECT THE FROM YOUR TODAY SCREEN, AND IF NECESSARY THE STARTUP DIRECTORY.
THEN CHOOSE EACH ONE SEPERATELY FOR THE DAY TO SEE THE IMPACT.
ACTIVESYNC IS SUCKING THE GUTS OUT OF IT.
Resco explorer comes with a free today programme plugin, which is memory efficient.
SPB PP will do journal bar and programme features in one, but has more memory overheads.
never used pocket breeze, but lots do abd isn't likely to be the cause of memory issue.
There is large volumes of info on this forum on memory loss, and most are anticipating a major ROM update to fix.... maybe hopefully, we'll see.
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Dear Jorgee,
Many thanks for your email and took your advice and downloaded and installed Memaid. It does do the job of cleaning up the Exec well and am going to stick with this one. Thanks again.
Cheers, Vikas.
Jorgee said:
You can try use Memmaid of Dinarsoft to get a list of programs running in RAM and how much of the ram they are consuming, just to get an idea of which particular program is consuming the most ram.
Heres the pocketgear shortcut:
http://www.pocketgear.com/downloads.asp?product_id=14279&prodname=MemMaid (supports WM5) 1.5
Hope this helps you to find out what memory problems you have.
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Newbie questions

Hi all,
Just got my I-mate JAM last week ... and absolutely love it. I know the JAM isn't the latest and greatest anymore, but I wanted a small PPC phone and JAM's the perfect size. The JAMin is too expensive for me, and I also think its improvements (wifi, EDGE, WM5 to name a few) are over-rated.
I had a separate PPC (toshiba e330 ... yeah it's about time it retires) and a smartphone (MPx220) before so it's great I only get to carry 1 device instead of 2.
Anyways, got a few newbie questions I hope you guys can help me with ...
1- Storage memory??
I realize the JAM has limited memory so I've been installing as many programs as possible on the 1G SD memory card.
I still found that ~ 60% of 'storage memory' is used though, so I started moving some more programs to the memory card (and had to relink them one by one).
Afterwards I found the 'storage memory' has actually gone UP even more ... from 60% to 68%??!
What is storage memory? I thought storage memory is the stuff (program / database) stored on the RAM, so by moving some of the programs to the flash card I should see the storage memory go DOWN, not UP?!
When I run something like a 'space detective' I find that all of my big files are on the memory card anyways, so I really don't know how my storage memory got so high, and don't know how to get it back down neither.
2. Repeated resetting
Everytime I do a soft-reset, the PPC has a tendency to do repeated resetting before I finally get it back ... the first time it freaked me out. I thought it's gone into an endless loop and I'd have to do a hard-reset ... good thing I got it back after 4-5 soft-resets. Once I get it back it actually runs stable, and wouldn't reset itself.
Is that normal? Has anybody else experienced this? Usually it'd reset itself again once it gets to loading the phone alarm today plug-in, or when it connects to the phone network.
I currently have the following plugin's installed on the today screen:
-phone alarm
- ADB Weather
- Calendar
And I also run WisBar Advanced 2 ... but I have disabled WA2 to reload itself automatically on soft-resets.
I put phone alarm, ADB weather and WA2 on the main storage instead of memory, because I don't want to increase the chance of crashing.
Does anybody else has this problem? Do I have a software conflict here?
3. Photo contact?
I use photo contact that comes with the phone ... now that software is a piece of crap to begin with, keeps freezing the PPC even for the smallest thing.
And, 5 times out of 10 when someone who's been assigned a photo ID calls, the photo doesn't show up. This is despite I've put the resized photo contacts on the main memory, not the memory card.
Anybody experienced the same problem? And what's a good photo contact ID program to recommend?
4. Good dialer program?
I can also use a good replacement dialer program ... the dialer program that comes with the phone works, but it's pretty slow in suggesting contacts as I dial, and the buttons a tad small as well for 1 hand operation.
I tried D9, but for whatever reason it doesn't install for me ... plus, I also need the DTMF tones to check voicemail and what not.
5. Must have appz?
Any other must have appz you guys would highly recommend? Since getting the phone I've installed:
- phonealarm (great appz for changing profiles and displaying sms / vmail / email / missed calls)
- Wisbar Advanced 2 (great launcher)
- Cyberon BT voice dialer (not sure how it's not included with the phone)
- Resco File Explorer
- Resco Picture Viewer
- Mapopolis
- Intelligolf
- Sprite backup (works well, but extremely slow if launched from the PPC)
- eWallet
Thanks! Any comment / suggestions is appreciated!
Number16, welcome to the board.
I'm afraid I don't have time for a thorough response right now, but some thoughts:
- please read the board rules. Posting a thread with a useful topic title will get you more help, faster. It's in your interest.
- read the wiki and do search the board. The Magician is still my favourite phone, and we've all spent years posting about issues for it. It's likely most of your concerns have already been discussed.
- specifically read the wiki on favourite software. It's far from complete, but it'll point you in the right direction. Someone asks the question every 4.7 minutes, precisely, day and night, so you will find other more detailed responses elsewhere. My recommendations: get gsfinder, claunch and SmallMenuPlus NOW.
- investigate the BigStorage Rom hack. (see Wiki)
Will try to post more later if possible.
V
apart from games I'd recommend the following:
1. Eye on privacy
2. XCPU Scalar
3. SPB plus
4. HiCalc
5. Novii remote
6. imusic
I would recommend;
AE Button plus
Allows you to map up to 3 functions per button, works great on the magician
+ its free
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=20322
"Total commander" is a great free file explorer
"Mortscript" is a useful for custom tweaking
"PHM Traylaunch" put shortcuts in the System Tool Tray
Also search this forum for a sound tweak that vastly improves audio quality when listening to music via headphones
& checkout http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php
Thanks guys, great advices there.
Speaking of AE Button plus, I installed the (free) ver 1.0.1 but somehow it only works for the contact and schedule button. I didn't re-assign the TALK/END buttons because it says if I do I won't be able to use these buttons in the dialer.
And somehow AE Button also doesn't work for the camera and record buttons (on the side) neither ... if I re-assign some other tasks to them, they don't bring up the camera application but won't start the intended application neither. I just hear a few beeps and nothing happen.
Does the paid version of AEB Plus improve that?
Sorry if I've gone off-topic here...
number16 said:
Thanks guys, great advices there.
Speaking of AE Button plus, I installed the (free) ver 1.0.1 but somehow it only works for the contact and schedule button. I didn't re-assign the TALK/END buttons because it says if I do I won't be able to use these buttons in the dialer.
And somehow AE Button also doesn't work for the camera and record buttons (on the side) neither ... if I re-assign some other tasks to them, they don't bring up the camera application but won't start the intended application neither. I just hear a few beeps and nothing happen.
Does the paid version of AEB Plus improve that?
Sorry if I've gone off-topic here...
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That's the same version as i'm using. Works on my contact & calender buttons & on my camera & record buttons perfectly, I use the camera button for the camera & flight mode toggle, I have mortscripts assigned to the other buttons which changes the buttons functions depending on what program is in the active window.
I find this easier to use stylus free than WM5 (I also own a Universal & a Prophet for the wife)
From your first post it sounds as your devise is a bit buggy, might be worth doing a hard reset or flashing it with a custom ROM.
A well setup Magician is an almost perfect PDA/Mobile phone balance
Have fun.
PS; Try the free trail for the paid version of AE Button & see if you like it.
Mister B said:
That's the same version as i'm using. Works on my contact & calender buttons & on my camera & record buttons perfectly, I use the camera button for the camera & flight mode toggle, I have mortscripts assigned to the other buttons which changes the buttons functions depending on what program is in the active window.
I find this easier to use stylus free than WM5 (I also own a Universal & a Prophet for the wife)
From your first post it sounds as your devise is a bit buggy, might be worth doing a hard reset or flashing it with a custom ROM.
A well setup Magician is an almost perfect PDA/Mobile phone balance
Have fun.
PS; Try the free trail for the paid version of AE Button & see if you like it.
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i have 2.5.1 registered version i cant figure how to toggle flight mode operation..help plz and i wanna ask if we can put magician on vibrate mode with any any key ???
max414 said:
i have 2.5.1 registered version i cant figure how to toggle flight mode operation..help plz and i wanna ask if we can put magician on vibrate mode with any any key ???
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Flight mode toggle
Download from link below then unzip & copy the program below to your phone or sd card, then create a shortcut to it in your programs folder (if you have a shortcut in your programs folder, it will show up in the menu in Buttons). Then go to "Settings>Buttons" & pick what button you want to link to the flight mode toggle program.
Vibrate mode toggle
You could create a batch file to use with Mortscript (freeware) which would turn your vibrate on & off, then link this batch file to a button.
Its quite easy to do, do a search for Mortscript. If you need help let me know & i'll write the script for you & give you what help I can in setting it up.
Mortscript is a great bit of software which can enable you to solve a few problems so its worth doing some research on it.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/pdamagician/wm2003sewm5software.html
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/pdamagician/Downloads/tel.on-off_100.zip
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Flight mode toggle
Unzip & copy the program below to your phone or sd card, then create a shortcut to it in your programs folder (if you have a shortcut in your programs folder, it will show up in the menu in Buttons). Then go to "Settings>Buttons" & pick what button you want to link to the flight mode toggle program.
Vibrate mode toggle
You could create a batch file to use with Mortscript (freeware) which would turn your vibrate on & off, then link this batch file to a button.
Its quite easy to do, do a search for Mortscript. If you need help let me know & i'll write the script for you & give you what help I can in setting it up.
Mortscript is a great bit of software which can enable you to solve a few problems so its worth doing some research on it.
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i have got mort script but it s too much for my little brain......if was hoping if u could provide the file i will assign it a button ...looking forward to your help...thx for flight mode toggle
I've got the paid version of AE Buttons Plus and it still runs a little funny sometimes ... certain buttons will work from time to time. For example, I left "single click" for Button1 untouched (which should be Calender by default) and "double click" would start Notes. Well, it starts Notes on double-click all right, but from time to times single-click wouldn't do anything. A reset usually fixes the problem, but then it'll happen again after a while.
So instead of leaving "single click" for the button un-assigned, I've assigned it to Run Appz -> Notes. That did the trick so far.
I also find that Wisbar Advanced 2 is causing quite a bit of problem ... anybody else has problem with it? With WA2, PhoneAlarm and AEButtons running at the same time, the Magician gets pretty unstable. It's a lot better if I don't load WA2.
Which is too bad, cos i've been a fan of Wisbar from long ago (well, it was a freeware then) ... anybody has any suggestion for a taskbar launcher? I really don't want something that's too busy looking, and I don't like clauncher ... I use the today screen for caleder plugin's and what not.
Thanks,
max414 said:
i have got mort script but it s too much for my little brain......if was hoping if u could provide the file i will assign it a button ...looking forward to your help...thx for flight mode toggle
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"max414"
I've sent you a private message rather than go further off topic on this thread.
Check your private messages & get back to me.
If you guys interested have a look at the 10 Best Softwares
Comments?
Here's my 2 cents on this '10best software' list ... befoer I start I gotta say for the most part I don't agree with it, for 1 reason or another.
1. Wisbar Advanced / Desktop.
Ok, I really like Wisbar, dating back to the PPC2002 times. It was a smart little program that worked very well as a launcher and took up close to nothing in terms of memory and storage, and better, it was a freeware. The Wisbar advanced these days though, is a memory hog for what it does. It may not be a problem on somehting like a x51v, but on a device like the Magician it really isn't the best solution for launcher. Plus, I dunno if it's just me, but I ran into all kinds of software problems with Wisbar advanced 2, potentially caused by software conflict with other softwares I have. Maybe someone else have better luck with WA2 though.
2. PocketBreeze
Never really used it, but personally I'm not a fan of busy today screen ... but that's just me.
3. PocketWeather
DOn't know why I'd pay for this software when I can get ADBWeather for free.
4. PocketMusic
I used PocketMusic in the PPC2002 days, and it's not bad ... but these days when you can get GSPlayer for free, it gives PM a run for the $$.
5. RescoFileExplorer
No question about this one. Always the first program I install after a hard-reset, 'nuff said.
6. Memmaid / PocketMechanics
I use Memmaid and it's great. Never used PocketMechanics
7. QuickNotes
Never used it ... so can't really say.
8. SPB Backup
I used Sprite Backup on my old PPC so I continue to use it on the Magician. Other than being rather slow when it scans your device, I have no complaint about Sprite. I never used SPB so I can't compare.
9. Internet Browser
Haven't tried anything other than IE so can't say ...
10. Theft Alarm
Well, I use eWallet to store all the sensitive information ... never used theft alarm so can't say.
I guess that's just the list for PPC ... because for PPC phones, I'd say PhoneAlarm's one of the top 'must-get' softwares for sure.

O2 XDA Orbit keeps rebooting - is it faulty?

hello,
I have an O2 XDA Orbit for the past 4 weeks but have had an ongoing
problem that when I install some programs the phone just keeps going
round and round soft resetting itself!!!
I have tried to eliminate which program (if any one in particular) is causing
this and I have now had enough. The ONLY way to stop this happening is to
remove the battery. Then I have to do a hard reset and lose all the programs
that I have installed. I even used SPB backup to help things along and even
when I think I have got a good working setup that can be re-installed the
phone can repeat this behaviour some time later for no apparent reason.
Also if I add a couple more programs it then happens again anyway.
Does anyone have any idea why this is and how I can fix it PLEASE?
It's driving me nuts, I love the phone but can not be doing with this.
I list below the details from the boot up screeen in case they are of help:
1.25.0001
1.25.0000
02.67.90
1.25.0.0
If anyone has a solution it would be most appreciated, THANKS.
If you have any other questions please ask.
All the best - Michael
And what programs did you add, a list would probably help
These are among them but...
Hi and thanks for interest but as I said above I do not seem able
to find out which program (if any) is the culprit? Even when I have installed
a few and made a "stable" backup a few soft resets later and it happens
again! It's doing my head in. I have tried different programs in various order
and things appear to be fine - then repeated soft reset going round and round
and the only way to stop is remove battery and hard reset, re-install programs
and do it all over again. Even the "stable" backups appear to be no good???
It occasionally happens with only a few programs installed! Would a "firmware"
upgrade be possible or help do you think? How would that be done safely?
However, here is a list of programs tried - I had to do a hard reset to get these:
anton tomov pocketmechanic
binaryfish all mobile mines
blue point studio pocket earth
conduits pocket player
dinarsoft memaid
electric pocket ringo
handmark tetris, monopoly and trivial pursuit
lakeridge wisbar lite
omega one dominoes and checkers
opera browser
pocketmax pocketwords
pocketmind pocketmusic
resco keyboard
resco picture viewer
spb backup
spb clearvue pdf
spb gprs monitor
spb pocket plus
webis pocket informant 2007
That's it - in no special order or combination...
I personally can not find any one of them as being responsible?
In case you are wondering the phone came already unlocked from O2 as an
upgrade. I am on Virgin, it has a 1gig micro sd card fitted.
Hoping someone will have the answer, many thanks,
All the best - Michael
P.S. I have other programs I would like to install but it seems so futile at
the moment. I also forgot to say that tomtom navigator 6 is installed too.
And generally speaking when the programs are running without any bother
they all seem to work fine, no crashes or hangs, hope this helps?
Finally, I am using Microsoft Activesync 4.2 and it seems to make no
difference whether programs are installed in main memory or storage card?
Thanks again - Michael
anton tomov pocketmechanic is low level software so most likely to cause issues.
But really, just try installing only a few of the apps and using it for a few days. Random resets are unusual of course, and if it was hardware or firmware, it would happen all the time. But if it doesn't happen after a hard reset, your issue is software, not hardware/firmware.
V
i had the same problem. the device did not reboot when removing the storage card. i took out some files from the Programs directory and found out, that some where causing eboot. for me it was SK tools folder. when i removed that, the device did not reboot. i dont know what it is...
Thanks for replies so far
I am taking note of suggestions so PLEASE keep them coming.
If anyone needs any more info just ask, I shall be checking
here on a regular basis to see if anyone has more ideas.
Ttfn, all the best - Michael
I've found two programs thus far that send my Orbit into this behaviour, SK Tools and Tengo. Once sussed, cold restart, reinstall without these, and all is stable.
Neither of these are on your list, so I'd be interested to know once you find out the rogue program!
See this post for a fix?
Thanks for your suggestions so far, keep 'em coming please.
In the meantime I have had a very positive and promising response here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1116164#post1116164
Look at post number #2 to find out exactly what it might be and fix?
cheers - Michael
Still doing it!
Hi All,
Well what can I say? I have been very careful and am STILL with this lousy
problem! Had enough, feel like chucking the rotten thing in the bin!
Would it be any good or easy for me to update the ROM, WM5, or anything
else that may help? It is already unlocked.
It's no good to me if I am not able to run the programs that I want, unless
they are known to cause problems? But right now it's about impossible to
discover what is causing this? Could it be a combination of programs?
If so, I have no chance of working it out?
All the best to you, Michael
I had the same problem for the first time last week and I had pocket mechanic only recently installed. I have hard reset the device and the problem has gone. So I installed the program again and hopefully I will not have any further issues?
Other programs installed include:
Resco keybord explorer and picture viewer
Sbp Brain evolution
Space reclaimer
Airscanner Anti Virus
Code Wallet Pro 6
Sprite Backup
Tom Tom 5
Worldmate
Towncompass Dataviewer
Monopoly
Pocket Mini golf 2
Age of Empires
Pac-Man
Oxford Dictionary
Soft key applet
Htc Phone pad
Anyone else having these issues please list what programs you are using or have just recently installed so we can find any possible trends?
I have also noticed since reinstalling my applications that the voices on tom tom sometime sound strange until I exit application and run it again.
Orbit reboots constantly
I also have a brand new orbit, which also started constantly rebooting after installing loads of software.
I eventually fixed it by removing the storage card (containing SK Tools) removing that software maually with a card adapter.
Meanwhile I rebooted the phone without the card, it managed to boot properly. I removed the program (in system settings) and then turned it off and replaced the card. It now works fine.
I think SK Tools is the main offender! But if you still want a list of my installed progs, just ask.
It's not just SKTools m8, nothing really to do with any particular program to be honest. When installing a program, when finished it should have an OK button at top right hand corner, if it doesn't then you know as soon as you reboot it will go round in loops. The only way to prevent this if you don't see the OK button is to un-install the program before rebooting, then try and install it again, it will work, it's just some programs don't work first time. ALSO any programs which at end of installation say something like "ppc must now be rebooted, do you wish to reboot now? press ok for now or cancel to continue" you SHOULD NOT let the program reboot your system as that will again cause the orbit to go round in loops again, you should press cancel (the program has still been installed don't worry) then hold the power button down until the shut down message pops up, then shut down manually and restart, that way it will work fine. Trust me, I've sussed it out from like day two.
Rebooting again!
Yeah,my mistake. I spoke too soon!
It did settle down for a bit. But it does keep looping, but now it even does it at random times, I haven't installed anything for a while but it's really unstable.
Your right about the 'OK' thing in the top corner it does disappear.
But I have the additional problem, which is on another thread with the 2gb storage card getting garbled unless I soft reset the device- my device often gets into a loop after I soft reset to get my sd card data back (especially after using TomTom or Rescoe explorer) - i thought i'd fixed that too, cos the phone behaved perfectly for a week...and then it all went horribly wrong again!
Do these these storage card and rebooting problems happen on ALL orbits? Or should I just replace my handset?
I removed these two programs and...
Hi All,
it's been a while since I posted here but I have found (so far) that
when I un-installed SPB Pocketplus and Resco keyboard my XDA Orbit has
NOT EVEN ONCE gone into the re-booting loop! I may try O2 plus?
I am also now happily running too many programs to list - all with no
apparent problem other than the storage card issue below.
Because of this I am not going to use them again until I feel very brave
and patient? Also I have the problem of garbled files and folders on my
2gb Sandisk (made in Taiwan) storage card, bought from USA on Ebay?
At the moment it reads 5.37gb! The garbled files are NOT deleteable and
have a file size up to 1.450gb! Does any one have an answer to this yet?
But so far my programs are running OK, fingers crossed. I shall see if anyone
finds a definite answer to this by following other threads.
Hope this is informative, all the best - Michael
This is the way to put CORRECT pressure on the memory card:
put the memory card in and make sure the flap clicks into place and does not bounce back up.
put the sim flap down and make sure it is clicked firmly in place.
once above steps are done get an EXTRA simcard and place it on the sim gate directly above the active sim.
carefully put battery back in and hold in place with finger whilst replacing back cover.
all should be fine
I have been installing loads of stuff on my orbit and a couple of times it has gone into this reset loop you guys are on about. I was wondering if anyone knows if this issue would persist after a hard reset and restore. I have spb backup, recently installed, but I have never needed to restore. It never happened before the last 3 things I installed: Magic Button, CLauncher, and spb shell, which I would hate to uninstall any of.
2020vision
HI 2020VISION............
I KNOW THE SOLUTION.........ITS EASY.
JUST REMOVE TOMTOM's Start FILE FROM MINISD CARD THATS IT.......THIS WILL ALLOW YOUR POCKETPC TO STOP REBOOTING....U R DONE....IF U STILL CAN'T DO IT ......I'LL EXPLAIN U A BIT MORE IN MY NEXT POST AND U DON'T NEED TO HARD RESET YOUR POCKETPC...........HAVE FUN..........
FOOTLEFT
'DESIGN TO DO THE JOB'.
Sounds simple but...
May I ask if ALL the others with this same problem also
have TOMTOM installed? I was beginning to think that it
could have had something to do with one or more SPB programs
as these are seeming to be a common link? What do others think?
Will certainly test what you say when/if it happens again.
Thanks - Michael
P.S. Could you still leave your detailed explanation anyway? Ta.
I've had this problem once a while ago. At that time I was installing a lot of different programs and the one caused the problem was probably HTC X-Button. I was so scary that I hard reset and reinstalled things without it.
Yesterday the same problem occured after I ran Spb Backup. This time I tried with a simple solution by removing the MicroSD card and installing it back. This did help. I ran Spb Backup without a problem.
So I guess this may have something to do with a vulnerability of the Orbit to low-level software.
I'll keep an eye to see if this would happen again.
BUSPBP

Athena Running Slow Sometimes!

I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomoly. Sometimes my unit seems to run extremely slow...like several processes are running in the background and hogging all the resources. I make sure that all "Running Programs" are closed and it is not during a "checking email" cycle, my internet history and cookies are cleared too. Sometimes I can click on something and wait up to 20 seconds before the "wheel" stops rotating and it completes the requested task. When this happens, it is 2-3 times slower than my HTC Touch.
Then, there are other times when everything seems to be running fine. Everything is quick and responsive with no noticable delays.
Background: My unit is the European X7500 version with WinMo 6 installed by the "selling store". The only additional programs I have installed are AvantGo, Google Maps, SPB GRPS Monitor, Skype, Sprite Backup and Vito Audio Notes. All were "clean installs" with no error messages and if memory serves correctly, I was noticing symptoms of these issues prior to installing most of these programs. I currently have 81.60 MB storage memory available and 76.90 MB program memory available.
ROM Version: 2.21.405.2
ROM Date: 07/20/07
Radio Version: 1.50.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.83.7020.20H
ExtROM Version: 2.21.405.101
It seems that there is something at work here but I can't seem to put my finger on what is causing it. Is it possible the the installation of WinMo 6 has something to do with this problem?
Although I am a long-time Windows PDA user, I have no experience at upgrading OS's, ROM's or hacking the registry entries (or even reading them for that matter). Any assistance in isolating the cause of this frustrating problem would be greatly appreciated.
Download latest rom!
Hey thats cool, I also have an HTC Advantage and an HTC Touch!
Anyway, I would recommend that you download and install the latest WM6 rom from the HTC e-club site, then install all your programs on the Micro drive. You can also try defragmenting the drive using Pocket Mechanic or similar utillity!
Good luck!
Thanks for the tip branko but from what I understand, I already have the most up-to-date version of WM6 (listed in OP). Also, I do not have a lot of programs installed (6) and half of these are installed on the MD. Defrag doesn't make sense as it is only a couple of months old with very little added and nothing removed.
That's why I am leaning towards something that may not have gone completely "tickety boo" during the installation of WM6. I am just trying to figure out if anyone else has experienced this problem after upgrading before I try a complete re-install of the OS. I was hoping that there is some way to be able to look for whatever is causing this slowdown. Kind of like using Task Manager in XP to see what processes, if any, are running in the background.
GPRS monitor has been known to cause slowness. Try Hard reset and not install GPRS monitor and see if that helps. When I got my X7500, it had GPRS monitor on the CD and I installed it and I had the same issues. Uninstalling the GPRS did not help, I had to Hard reset and then load my apps and not load the GPRS monitor.
I know is sucks to hard reset and have to reload your apps, but since you only have a few, it is worth a try.
Good luck
Thanks eagle 1. That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Too bad if that is the problem because I kind of like the GPRS Monitor. And the funny thing is, I am also running GPRS Monitor on my HTC Touch without problems and 1/3 the processor speed.
I just checked the versions and my Advantage has 2.4.5 build 923 (from original CD) and my Touch has 2.5.1 build 225 (download purchase). So, I wonder if the older version has issues with WM6 and the newer version has fixed those issues.
Well, there is only one way to find out for sure. I will try a hard reset tomorrow when I get some time (too tired tonight) and report back. If I find that this has corrected the issue, I may try loading the newer version and see what happens.
Thanks again.
eagle 1 said:
GPRS monitor has been known to cause slowness. Try Hard reset and not install GPRS monitor and see if that helps. When I got my X7500, it had GPRS monitor on the CD and I installed it and I had the same issues. Uninstalling the GPRS did not help, I had to Hard reset and then load my apps and not load the GPRS monitor.
I know is sucks to hard reset and have to reload your apps, but since you only have a few, it is worth a try.
Good luck
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eagle1,
You've just posted the tip of the day! I've always noticed that my taskbar icon took a long time to change from 3G to H, but never occurred to me that the GPRS monitor was the culprit. After uninstalling it,I already noticed a marked reduction in time taken to change from 3G to H, and my web browsing speed has improved! I'm going to try a hard reset when I got some free time later and see if it improves even further.
Just a question before I "pull the pin" and do a hard reset. I noticed that in the Remove Programs listing it shows Microsoft Office Mobile. A hard reset will not uninstall this, will it?
Also, under the Programs directory, Adobe Reader LE and Windows Live will also survive a hard reset, correct?
Thanks.
anything is the remove programs folder will get deleted but dont worry everything you need including Office is just a link away. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364366
Ok, I just noticed that MS Office Mobile is actually on one of the CD's that came with the unit. I wondered why it was showing up in the Remove Programs folder. I received my device with WM6 already installed from the dealer so I didn't realize that it's not pre-installed in WM6.
Also, another question regarding the hard reset. I synchronize with Outlook on my laptop and my contact database has about 1,600 contacts. After a hard reset, would it be better to delete my existing ActiveSync partnership and create a new one. Or, would connecting to my existing partnership after a hard reset cause any problems.
I am assuming that because my current partnership was originally set up to sync both ways, that once connected after a hard reset, it will realize there are no contacts on the device and automatically transfer them over from my laptop. Is there anything I am missing.
And one last thought based on eagle 1's tip regarding GPRS Monitor not playing nice, has anyone else come across any other programs that cause problems and I should stay away from? That includes the Sprite Backup Tool included on the disc.
Is there a problem with sprite backup? I don't notice any yet.
Sorry, I should have clarified. I don't know if there is a problem with Sprite. I am just asking if anyone else has found it causes any trouble.
My reasons for asking are that I have just done a hard reset and so far I have not loaded any programs. Once I sync my Outlook contacts back, I will think about re-installing individual programs. But this time, I will do it one-by-one.
Rick76 said:
Sorry, I should have clarified. I don't know if there is a problem with Sprite. I am just asking if anyone else has found it causes any trouble.
My reasons for asking are that I have just done a hard reset and so far I have not loaded any programs. Once I sync my Outlook contacts back, I will think about re-installing individual programs. But this time, I will do it one-by-one.
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Oh yes, you should reinstall all your program one by one. If not, you'll simply bring back whatever that caused the slow down.

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