T-Mobile Vario, this wifi issue - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Im just about to purchase a Vario after shopping aruond a bit. the main reason im want this phone is for the wifi.
I just read an article about a wifi bug that prevents wardriving.
Is this fixed yet?
Is the only problem that it shows every wifi spot youve connected to? Im guessing I can still access new ones, say if i was in an internet cafe or something.
TIA
Doug
Just a little apprehensive before buying

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Quick question when using pie to surf the net does it hang for a while on locating the web page or does it work instantly.
I have just got the Tytn and looking at web pages using 3g is really slow and really not very usable
I am using tmobile uk 3g network
after inputting a web address it hangs on locating for up to 60 seconds then loads the page very wuickly after that
Anyone any ideas
Thanks
Chris
Very strange. I dont have this problem. The first time a UMTS connection must be established and it is 5 or 6 seconds. The next request are very fast. May be you have established the DNS servers manually?
I get that, browsing using GPRS is painful on t-mobile
how about using opera 8.6 http://opera.com
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
adam_beasley said:
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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Is weird .... Im using unlimited internet T-Mobile NL (UMTS 3G) without any problem ... never freezing and the speed is very stable...
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indra9110
adam_beasley said:
I too have this problem with T-Mobile, On connecting to the internet over GPRS or 3G GPRS it will hang for some time, wether its internet explorer or other internet services I have on the device (HTC Universal).
As I have web and walk I just leave it connected, but its not ideal. I wonder wether its the T-Mobile servers working slowly to authenticate the handset for internet use.
Its been fine upto the last month or so.
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I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
Absolutely agree with you as you have described precisely what my symptoms are.
Hopefully if enough people complain to T-Mobile about it, they might actually admit there is a problem and fix it.
Maybe the delays are because http traffic is proxied
Maybe the delays are because http traffic is proxied....
It looks like Orange are operating a proxy or some other form of protection. A few weeks ago I discovered that they had something in place to restrict access to adult sites, wouldn't have bothered me other than the site I was trying to visit was xda-developers.com.
Even followed their link to get the site unblocked and got a nice little responce stating "Your request has been actioned and the content is confirmed as only suitable for customers over the age of 18." before getting their filtering disabled.
adam_beasley said:
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
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Exactly how i seem to find it, either it works or doesnt. There seems to be nothing u can do either to make it work, reboot, change from UTMS to 2g ot what ever. Nothing has any bearing and its most annoying, tbh i wish id never got the universal now as its a huge piece of junk, or at least the t- mobile ones are. Ive used a 02 one and its just soooooooooooooo much faster in everything.
im using the latest rom and even after flashing its still sluggish before anything is installed.
adam_beasley said:
StuBFrost said:
I have exactly the same problem with an MDA Pro. Fine until a month ago now slow on 3g. GPRS though is fine.
I'm actually quite relieved to find that it isn't just me !
Stu
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Its also become random now, somtimes it connects and its instant, and actually fast even on normal GPRS, other times it can take over a couple of minutes to locate and open a page.
Doesnt seem to matter whether its a full signal or not, whether its after a reset or anything, totally depends on what T-Mobile feels like.
Maybe it cant cope with the number of web'n'walk use now.
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Exactly how i seem to find it, either it works or doesnt. There seems to be nothing u can do either to make it work, reboot, change from UTMS to 2g ot what ever. Nothing has any bearing and its most annoying, tbh i wish id never got the universal now as its a huge piece of junk, or at least the t- mobile ones are. Ive used a 02 one and its just soooooooooooooo much faster in everything.
im using the latest rom and even after flashing its still sluggish before anything is installed.
Having been in a T-Mobile 3G area most of today (Loughborough, Leicestershire) the service itself has been as quick as ive ever used it, getting around 270k on a fairly medium signal.
The times it hasnt worked (long first time loading) it has returned to me with a server or IP error. I just assume that as web'n'walk is unlimited, but has restrictions on use, that the servers are overloaded trying to monitor or prevent certain services working.
Its been picking up a bit lately tho, im suffering the waiting times less and less each time I try. Tho 3G UMTS has really sucked the life out of my battery today, it may be best I keep it on 2G instead.
Haven't noticed any of these problems on T-Mobile in and around London. Have you all removed your "Content Lock"?
As mentioned earlier by Taz69, connection may be slowed down by the T-Mobile servers checking to see if you're 'allowed' to visit various sites?
I disabled my content lock ages ago using 'My T-Mobile' on www.t-mobile.co.uk - give it a go if you haven't already, it may make a difference?
My content is unlocked and always has been so it isn't that umfortunately.
PC_Arcade said:
I get that, browsing using GPRS is painful on t-mobile
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So, Im not the only one :roll: Do you get the problem where it can take 30+ secs to switch between GRPS and 3G too?
Also, I spoke to T-Mobile about slow speeds and lack of connetivity - I can hardly get a signal in my office, although I am sat across road from a T-Mobile mast!!!
They said that as the mast across road was congested, my device was connecting via a mast further away (I like the idea of it not trying to get on a congested mast, but distance causes problems with connectivity too :roll: )
Other thing they pointed out was, if you call them with the postcode that has the problem, it gets logged...enough logs and they escalate it (I'm up to 6 logs in my postcode now lol)
How can I tell if it's switching? Mine says "Connected (GPRS, 3G)"
Since (re)removing the lock it does seem significantly faster though
If your connected via standard GPRS then the connected logo at the top of the screen will have a G on it, if your connected via 3G GPRS then it changes to a U (for UTMS).
Ive always had a delay swapping between the 2, yesterday my 3G signal kept dropping so it would switch back to 2G, and it kept doing this so much I couldnt get any internet for about 5 mins. I know you can turn the UMTS band off, but this makes buying a 3G phone pointless.
I have content lock off since day one, and its always been fast. Today theres been bo problems with the service at all, fast logon, good speed connections etc.
Seems a random thing lately, but its only been lately. Its been fine for a few months before, so hopefully its somthing there working on and it slowly getting sorted.
The problems could be down to the pay and go users Web and talk, for a max of £1 per day they get unlimited internet, see t-mobile for more info, this could be eating servers bandwith within certain areas, i was able to logon this morning, but after 9am i keep getting page cannot be found errors, The little u and the 2 arrows show me I'm conneted but i cant load any pages, I hope this is the case and t-mobile sort this out asap
I have had the same problem now for around a month. I am using Opera 8.60 and it takes around 1 minute to actually resolve the host name. Sites with adverts on take forever. I contacted T-Mobile and they said that the signal in my area is really good and there shouldn't be a problem. They told me to take the sim card out, wait 30 seconds and then reinsert it, and then try.
I have not yet had any luck, and it seems to be the same throughout the country, as I was in Cornwall over the weekend on holiday and it was just as bad.
P.S. I am in Liverpool, and I have a full 5 bar umts signal.

Internet fine on 3G, no internet on G.

I just got my 8525 on monday fron cingular, when I first got it I noticed that the internet will work fine on 3G but it wont work on G, for some reason on G it will time out when looking to load a page on IE and it wont receive or send emails either. So I said, what the hell, let me upgrade to WM6 and this should be solved, I was wrong, I have the same exact problem on WM6 and I've spent countless hours going thru all the threads looking for an answer and still nothing. Dont want to call CS since I'm on WM6 and they would start giving me crap about it. Anyone knows whats going on here? I can get internet fine on 3G and I could tether fine to my lappy but if I go out of a 3g and into a plain G network, it wont let me do anything online. Could it be software or hardware? If hardware, how would I go about returning since I upgraded to wm6?
Your help is greatly appreciated.
If you have HTweakC, check the Phone...GPRS/G3 Connection setting and tick Enable GPRS/G3 Auto Attach.
I found that i had the problem you describe when moving from the 3 network in Sydney (Aus) to a regional centre where only GSM/GPRS was available.
I'll try that and see if it works when I move to a none 3g zone. Thanks a lot.
That didn't fix the problem, still no internet when on G network and do have internet while on 3g network. Any other suggestions?
Which WM6 are you on ? I'd think that the Black 2.0 for Cingular might be best and with the 1.40 Radio.
Are you a new Cingular subscriber ? If you are maybe try your SIM in another phone. They might not have provisioned your account properly.
No, I'm not new to cingular and I'm using now the WM6 Black Edition. But dont think that matters tho since it was doing the same thing on wm5. Any suggestions?
Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
Did you solve the problem?
Diazman said:
Well, have read and gone thru countless threads and still no answer to this problem. Like i said, I went back to WM5 and still have no internet when on E but get lightning fast connection while on 3G. Has anyone experienced this before?
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I use my 8525 in a non 3G network (GPRS/Edge) and I haven´t been able to have a decent connection since day 1 back in December. If you solve your problem please share the solution. Thanks
Maybe this will help
I bought my very own Tytn this week and got a mobile internet subscription with it. I can't seem to connect to any webpage using IE either.
I'm a Firefox fan and always use that wherever I am. So I decided to try the pocket version of that, which is called Minimo. it's on http://www.mozilla.org somewhere.
For some unknown reason, that solved my problem. IE still doesn't work, no matter what I try, but I can surf as much as I want on Minimo, which is fine for me.
Hope this helps.

Poor Wifi on TyTN II

I gave off my HTC P3600(Trinity) and purchased a TyTN II in the hope of getting better options, particularly on WiFi. I frequently travel and rely on WiFi hot spots to connect to the internet. I was disappointed because TyTN II could hardly detect a WiFi signal and when it does it always drop off. From my experience, HTC P3600 is even better in handling WiFi. Has anyone had a similar problem and got a solution? Is there a kind of service pack kit to jump start it? Please share and help!!!!!
I haven't detected any problems with Wi-Fi so far. Working great.
Good, steady connection, since "Power Mode" is mostly set to "Best Performance".
Mine also works like a charm.
check your Radio ROM, u might have a dodgy one, as some work better than others.
Wifi works good.
Sometimes the signal drops. But use Wififofum. So the wifi will scann all the time
Having the same poor WiFi problem with Vario III
lithocan said:
I gave off my HTC P3600(Trinity) and purchased a TyTN II in the hope of getting better options, particularly on WiFi. I frequently travel and rely on WiFi hot spots to connect to the internet. I was disappointed because TyTN II could hardly detect a WiFi signal and when it does it always drop off. From my experience, HTC P3600 is even better in handling WiFi. Has anyone had a similar problem and got a solution? Is there a kind of service pack kit to jump start it? Please share and help!!!!!
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I'm having exactly the same problem with my T-Mobile Vario III. It seems that if I'm any distance at all from a WiFi router the connection is crap. The phone has been like this for some time now and I am getting sick and tired of not getting a decent WiFi connection anywhere.
The phone is still under warranty so I'm sending it back to the T-Mobile repair centre.
My radio ROM version is 1.27.12.11. I intend to re-flash the phone with the latest HTC official WM6.1 and radio at some stage but I suspect that the poor WiFi problem may be hardware related otherwise loads more people would be complaining about this like they are about the sh*te graphics performance.

Strange internet problem on T-Mobile G2

Hi,
Not sure if it’s my handset or for everyone in general in the UK on T-Mobile network.
Strange but true. While traveling, internet just doesn't work on my G2. Whether on the popular motorways such as M1, M25 or on train where T-Mobile coverage is very good, I get one or two bars the internet just doesn't work. It throws up error messages that it cannot reach the host it’s trying to connect meaning no data connection. It’s definitely not the coverage problem. Something to do with the phone as I never had this problem on my Nokia E71.
I called T-Mobile helpdesk but they just don't know and don't understand. Is anyone having the same internet problem while traveling? Any workarounds? I don't want to change the firmware as I can get a replacement from T-Mobile (I suppose) if I'm persistent with them. If I change the firmware, it may void the warranty as my phone seems to be faulty.
Any recommendations or workarounds?
Thanks in advance.
Hari
I'm getting something similar some of the time. I'm waiting for the official SW update in the hope that this will be fixed.
Yes, same problem here sometimes. I wonder if it's got something to do with the phone maybe?
Do you mean WiFi or 3g? One of the best things for me was sitting on eurostar watching the gps marker shoot across the screen as the map also was updating... that was a month ago, though, couple of days after I got the phone.
So do you ever get a connection.
When travelling in a car mine seems mostly ok.
It does lose internet connection sometimes when moving from a 2g to 3g signal and can take a couple of minutes to come back.
You could try forcing a 2g connection only to test if that works ?

wifi issues

hello all.
im having issues with my wifi. im getting realy poor reception even when standing next to the router. i did lots of reading about the matter but could not conclude whether it was a software or a hardware issue. im running stock rom.
i got the phone from google the tmobile version and im currently using it in Oman.
when i got it, i turned the phone on, it asked me if i wanted to update i said, all went perfect.
at first i didnt notice, then couple of hours later i noticed that the wifi bars will not go more than 1 bar if im 20 feets away from the router. if i put the phone on top of the router i still got one bar short than full.
last week i ordered another phone for myfather inlaw. i asked him to cancel and not update his phone to ere27, the same update i performed.
i compared his phone and mine at his house, my phone wouldnt even see the network when we were one floor down when his phone showed 2 bars.
im totaly confused, i dont want to root nor unlock the bootloader. however, i tried to manually flash the update ere27 again using sd card, thinking maybe there was some error last time. still the same.
on the other side i have a jawbone 2 headset. the reception is so bad if i take the phone more than 15cm for my headset, same with the dock. the dock being bluetooth capable, the phone doesnt have to be sitting at the dock in order for it to play music.
while i was doing my readings, it seemed that the bluetooth and wifi are the same chip, thus im wondring it might be a chip issue.
so now im back to zero, radio software issue or chip hardware issue.
some other facts:
i have no problems staying connected to my wifi with my low signal. i have no voice issues nor 3g issues. (3g still under observation and testing to see whether it works fine for me.
this week im getting another nexus one for my brother and dont know whether i ask him not to perform the ere27 update and wait till google sends another ota that might update the radio.
correct if im worng, i was thinking to flash only the radio. i currently have the 4.03, locked and unrooted and was thinking to flash the 4.04 radio but from what i understood that to flash radio u need to be rooted and unlocked?
if yes, then i will have to wait for googles ota.
if no, then point where to find the tutorials and radio file.
any feedback is much appreciated
Try the app wifi fixer... it helped me alot with keeping a good signal
i tried that also but that software helps u maintain a connection. i have no issues staying connected but i have issues with the strength of the wifi signal.
any more inputs
you should WiFi fix app because it shows you what channels are too crowded in your area and which ones are free. it sounds like your channel is so crowded that even next to the router the phone can't get a good signal.
hello
thank u for ur input. today i asked my father inlaw to update his nexus one to update1. i have asked him to refrain from it before thinking it might be a software issue on mine. after his update, his signals got even better when mine struggled to maintain a signal. mind u both phone where next to each other.
i also had blurtooth issues using my jawbone. at first i thought it was my bluetooth but today i tried his headset. the headset would start staticing if the phone is below my shoulder. after doing some readings, i learnt that the nexus one shares the same chip for bluetooth and wifi.
now im certain its a hardware issue.
since im in oman, i emailed htc and told them about the problem and my location. i offered them the option of me sending the phone to my company in san diego or directly to them. lets see what they say.
in the meantime, i decided to purchase another n1 (loaner) till i send mine and have it back after repair. after which i will sell the loaner ; )
cheers

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