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Hello.
I have recently bought for second time a Qtek 9100 and i have noticed that it has a really poor reception, regarding wifi signal.
More specifically, if i move to next room( few meters away) i loose half strength of signal, and if i move another room (less than 10 meters from my pc) i barely have signal (around 20%)!!!
With a Qtek 9000 i had before, in the same room i had around 90% wifi signal and with my laptop the same!
I have to notice that i selected "best performance" in wifi settings( but the strange thing is whether i have it in best performance or best battery life i can't see any difference).
Is this a hardware failure? If so, i should move quickly to get an exchange device before the replacement period ends.
Thanks in advance for your help!
same problem, tried the wifi g hack, no results. I suggest you try that [wifi g hack] any help from anyone else would be good though
Yes, i have tried that, but no luck.
No change with that!
Is the poor signal normal? Any other 9100/Kjam user to share his feedback?
Please tell your experience as to know if my device is defective, in order to move quickly tomorrow to exchange it.
Thanks!
well i dont know, i get normal signal at home or on anyother open home wifi network, but at school which has wpa-tsk settings, i can only access the wifi when im across the hall. they have another router in the other building, but i can be 5ft away from it and get nothing
Hmmm, i have problems whenever i try to connect to router, usb wifi key, public access point, anything. Just 10 meters away and signal goes close to nothing. So, i am convinced that it is a defective unit.
If anyone else can tell us their experience...
Ok,thank you for your help!
Ur lucky you can connect at all.
I can't even connect to my home wifi set up!
Well I can if I plug the Wizard into my laptop via USB!
Have you guys tried running this CAB? I think it does more than change one registry setting. I have a QTEK 9100 and it worked well for me. No issues with distance or performance (at least not yet). Using a Belkin Pre-N router. Make sure to soft reset after running the CAB on the device. Hope it works for you.
Did nothing for me,
Still can't connect to my home WiFi
yea i have this installed now for about 2 weeks.no additional results
Yes, i have installed it too, no luck with it...
Hmmm, things get complicated.
I tested an 9100 and a Qtek S200 in a shop (demo phones) and i have seen that their wifi is close to my 9100 as far as it concerns the signal.
So, if this is the normal, this sucks!!!
Since 3 days that i have started investigating the case, i have compared my 9100 with a Dell Axim X51v, a Palm Lifedrive and a Qtek 9000, all in the same place.
The results:
Palm lifedrive: 90% signal
Qtek 9000: 80% signal
Dell Axim 51v: 50% signal
Qtek 9100(mine): 25% signal
What the heck!!!
I start to believe that 9100/S200 have a very bad wifi module, regarding it's signal ability!
Any other feedback?
Noone uses his wifi?
Thanks!
I can only tell you that I have the same. the WIFI modukes are not the best you can get.
I can use it but it looses the signal quite often by just moving the phone. :?
Yes, i believe that all new Qtek's-after the tests i've done- have bad wifi modules( except maybe for Qtek 9000, all the others are crap)!
Appologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but ive trawled so many forums i forget where everything is! (noob)
I have my lovely new MDA vario on t-mobile, runs fast, everything works great, however, my wifi signal from my router (asus WL-500G) is really poor even in the same room as the router! forget about the room next door! I have set the device for "maxumim performance" (less battery) and have set my router power settings to maximum, but i still get very bad signal! im sure this is my MDA as my laptop connects to the router no problems from upstairs or garden! Im using the standard wifi software, thought about hitchhiker although user reviews seem to suggest that it "leeks" data and is unstable! Could anyone please suggest what i could do?
Many thanks,
Luke
Hypno said:
I have my lovely new MDA vario on t-mobile, runs fast, everything works great, however, my wifi signal from my router (asus WL-500G) is really poor even in the same room as the router! forget about the room next door! I have set the device for "maxumim performance" (less battery) and have set my router power settings to maximum, but i still get very bad signal! im sure this is my MDA as my laptop connects to the router no problems from upstairs or garden!
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actually this is quite common problem with this device, some people complained about that already. same thing is with my wireless network - sometimes Wizard is completely 'blind' for WiFi signal, even if router is in the same room, and i need to invoke connection manually from network card manager. with iPAQ rx3715 which i used before Wizard i never had such problems and WiFi worked flawlessly...
well, you can increased the signal performance a bit better if you change the setting on your Wifi to best performance, but it will drain your battery...
Is it worth taking my MDA back and getting a new one? i have already set the network adaper to maximum performance (less battery)! If its a general problem with alot of MDA's will a new handset fix this? or what about upgrading the radio? im using all the standard ROMs etc that came with the handset at the moment, im scared of messing it up/loosing access to my unlimeted browsing (that i pay £9.99 a month for ) Im happy with the menu speed and everything its just the wifi letting me down! If upgrading the Rom/radio is advisiable could someone please tell me what version works with the MDA?
My current versions are as follows: (this was bought brand new last week so im assuming i have the latest t-mobile rom?)
ROM: 2.21.2.6WWE
Radio: 02.19.11
Protocol: 4.1.13.09
Ex Rom: 2.21.2.109
Many thanks for everyones help.
try to tweak Wifi to used a G signal from the default B signal...if your Wifi network can accomodate G signal also....for further information look at here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898 and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784
Cant say I have any trouble at all with the wifi. Can use it in any room in the house with no problems. I would first check out a new unit and if thats the same then maybe it doesnt like your router ?
Hello All,
I am wondering if you can help. I have a Linksys N router at home which is supposed to be 4x the area of coverage from a g. It is in my basement and the signal in my bedrooms is very weak. I purchased a Linksys signal booster and plugged on the first floor to repeat the signal to the bedrooms.
Here is the problem: I use my TYTN on the first floor close to the basement window and the signal is ok but when I move farther on the first floor the signal becomes very weak - not to mention how weak it is upstairs in the bedrooms.
I tried it with my Univeral and it is a killer full bar signal. This leads me to believe it is either my wifi is busted on my TYNT in terms of reception or they have very weak WIFI antenas. Can someone confirm if they have a similar problem?
Thanks,
Gilbert
yes i think there is a problem with the signal
he is very weak!
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
At least it got better WiFi-signal than the Wizard...
Change the mode to 'best performance' and try again.
Cheerio
Howard
El_Mar1ach1 said:
Both Universal and Blue Angel have better wifi signal than hermes...incredible... I wonder how htc project device...
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I don't know about Universal, but I have a BlueAngel and it doesn't have better wifi signal than Hermes. Hermes a lot better for me, mine is an HTC TyTN (WWE) #628.
FWIW I have both Blue Angel and Wizard devices -- the Wizard's WiFi is far superior to the BA. The BA can barely pick up the signal for my office network, but the Wizard can connect to it from outside.
You should try to adjust the battery vs. performance slider in wifi settings
and report if the signal is stronger then.
I haventh had the opportunity to test the wlan yet myself.
Guys, i have use ALL HTC devices so far and i can surely say that their wifi chipsets in terms of signal strength is totally crap( i have made lots of tests comparing to other PDA brands).
I haven't used an HTC Hermes so far but i am afraid( judging from your saying) that the problem still persists.
I've done a quick test: opened wififofum on BlueAngel and Hermes, and walked around the house.
BA found 13APs, while TyTN found 22. At some point BA was seeing 7/13 while TyTN 11/22.
So, TyTN is far superior
Well here is the deal.
I tried my universal in my bedroom and it has full bar and then tried it with my Tytn and it has one bar!!!!!
I have a linksys N router in my basement and a signal booster in the first floor and this is adquate to boost the signal to my second floor bedrooms. But instead, all other devices have excellent reception but my tytn has one or two bars to the max when i put it in best performance mode. I am running a surge on wifi signals in my house and it is still weak.
WTF
Gilbert
Sorry If I'm kinda jumping or hijack this thread. Although this thread I guess is better than I start a new thread. My Prophet also sucks when receiving WIFI signals. I have an Alpine, an 02 Zinc, a nintendo DS, a laptop. dudes, my prophet couldn't even receive signal on the next room adjacent to where my router is. but for everything else in my devices, it can go as far as outside my house. probably 15meters away from the wifi, but can still browse. my prophhet can only receive wifi signals if i put my phropet besides the router itself. then slowly moving away but not exceeding 10 FEET. I mean what the hell is the wlan for if it ain't going further than 10 eet from the router. in my devices here's from the farthest to the weakest:
1. My Laptop of course: can still watch youtube outside the house.
2. My Alpine: dudes the signal rocks! even thru my inside gates.
3. My Zinc: slightly nearer than my alpine.
4. My NDS: kinda halfway than my Alpine.
5. My Prophet: worse: you should be beside the router. then why i don't i just open my dang PC and browse from it.
I have all these device with me.
for about sometime I also had the nokia n91. wifi signal's pretty good too. I just sold it out since when browsing heavy sites, the explorer turns off. I freakinly hate my prophet for it's ridiculous wifi connection. Currently I'm flashing all available rom there is just to test my WIFI reception. Hope you guys observe my tests. thanks!
What I want to say is that the wifi singnal has matters with the barrier in the space and the network condition itself. Beside that ,I made a test before,the wifi singal on WM6.1 was better than WM6.Maybe you can try to update your OS version.
Is it normal that about 15-20m from my home WLAN access point, TyTN loses the signal. Even within 4m from the WLAN station, the signal bar won't go to the highest level?
Is this normal behaviour?
I have used laptops with internal WLAN cards that can reach the access point from about 50m away without any problems and signal level at good.
same happens to me, my dell laptop works just fine but my tytn looses signal 8-10 meters from wifi spot...
Change the power save mode to best performance, to see if it helps:
start - settings - connections - wireless lan - power mode
Although it doesn't sound like the case, it is possible for the radio receiver to be overloaded if the signal is too strong as would be the case with it right next to the AP.
Bit like trying to listen to music standing next to a speaker chucking out 10kW
David.
Yup, have tried that power save/performance thingie. Wasn't much difference wether the powersave or performance was at it's highest setting.
Hi, Which is your serial number...starts with HT6??? ?
Bye.
Yeah i can agree my wifi signal is poor on my MDA Vario II, worse than my Vario, and far below my laptop,
it sucks as i live just near a star bucks and have a 1 year t-ob hotspot subscription.
not sure if its the same problem but my vario2 constantly drops its wifi connection and starts searching for others regardless of signal strength. When i called T-mobile they confirmed it ws a hardware fault and are sending me a new replacement.
Wiper said:
Is it normal that about 15-20m from my home WLAN access point, TyTN loses the signal. Even within 4m from the WLAN station, the signal bar won't go to the highest level?
Is this normal behaviour?
I have used laptops with internal WLAN cards that can reach the access point from about 50m away without any problems and signal level at good.
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poor WLAN reception was quite an issue in HTC Wizard and unfortunately problem remains with HTC Hermes/TyTN as well. big shame imho, however since i have web'n'walk deal, i don't use WLAN in my Vario II at all.
ferrari said:
Hi, Which is your serial number...starts with HT6??? ?
Bye.
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The s/n is HT628F...
I have the same problem described above. Very weak signals and constantly dropping connection / looking for other signals. I have an M3100. Is it a ROM or hardware fault?
Same problem here.
2 laptops work fine, as did my HTC Prophet (Orange M600).
I returned the M600 and went for the M3100 instead. Little did I know the M3100 would have problems picking up the wifi signal from my router where the M600 had NO problems at all.
I've been considering replacing the wirless router for one with a bigger range, or installing a signal booster of some sort.
I thought maybe I have a duff phone, but looks like it's the norm.
So far at least my replacement Vario2 isnt displaying the previous wi-fi sigal dropping problem so maybe the problem was ironed out on the newer models - my old serial number was HTC623 and the replacement is HTC624
same here - very weak wifi on serial - HT634xxx
Yes i need to also confirm that my unit is suffering from very weak wifi signal.
Right now im siting by my 838 Pro and my notebook, my notebook has "full signal (5 bars)" but my 838 pro has "very weak signal (1 bar)"
my unit has serial number of HT634xxxxxx
bought in bangkok 4 days ago.
Thanks for any inputs
Cheers
NR
Just got my phone this week, serial number is HT635, WiFi performance is crap.
I've only managed to have it work once so far for about 20 minutes, even if I stand next to my router.
Doesn't work at work either.
magicalex said:
not sure if its the same problem but my vario2 constantly drops its wifi connection and starts searching for others regardless of signal strength. When i called T-mobile they confirmed it ws a hardware fault and are sending me a new replacement.
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Are your sure they said it was a hardware failure??
I have the same problem. Sitting about 5 ft. from my wireless router the Tytn drops the connection, displays 2 wireless icons in the topbar and wants to connect the the wireless router of somebody else. I have to delete the wireless settings and re-enter them in order to get WiFi working again. The signal is also very weak and after 10 meters the connection is gone. HT633.
Pardon my ignorance, never tried wi-fi, but anyway... Couldn't be a reason that AFAIK 'g' mode is turned off by default? I thought I saw it in the one of the tweaking utinily...
What ??? The Wi-Fi in TyTn is that very bad ???
I hate to say that I just ordered that phone with T-Mobile NL ! And I ditched my Magician. The reason was that I want that Wi-Fi !!
Poor me
Lurker0 said:
Pardon my ignorance, never tried wi-fi, but anyway... Couldn't be a reason that AFAIK 'g' mode is turned off by default? I thought I saw it in the one of the tweaking utinily...
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I think your point is accurate there Lurker. I've done some hunting around to find a Registry hack to enable Wifi G which I found here.
I'm happy to report that it actually made quite a difference. Previously the signal would cut out constantly in my living room and was generally useless. After applying the Wifi G hack, I get a medium to low signal in my living room, which is stable. I've tested the bandwidth and it is exactly the same as my PC gets. The Vario II Wifi reception still isn't exactly great, but it works in the rooms I need it to, so that's good enough for me.
Here is the hack (amended for Vario II):
1) Locate the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS
2) Add new DWORD Value:
name: dot11SupportedRateMaskG
D value: 8
guys, this hack is for the Wizard only and does nothing on the Hermes... the Hermes comes with 802.11g wifi enabled by default.
Hi,
I have my legend from 3 week s now, and very pleased with it... I has a Hero before and happy to play now with Android 2.1... However... I'm a little bit disapointed with the quality of my network signal nd some other bug that I hadn't on my hero...
Problems...
Wifi signal and Network GSM signal often bad or lower quality than previously... Is that normal and know for future dev...
Browser often doesn't load the Internet page when signal is not good and stop working or show the error loading message, and even if my signal is ok...
So basically my radio version is...
47.26.35.04U_7.05.35.26L
2.6.29-9a3026a7
Build 1.23.405.1 CL139791
Can you help me, is a new rom or radio planned for soon...
thx
Buzz
Buzz
did you compare the performance of your Legend with another phone?
my Legend is underperforming compare to my HTC Cruise, but I'm using H3G here in Italy, running only on 3G network.
Sent from my HTC Legend using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
No i do not compare I juste have problem qith signal quality at all... And yes compared to my hero, it is worst...
Same here, bad WiFi or Edge/3G performance compared with my iPhone 3GS or some other phones I've tested (at the exact same location).
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I haven't tested my Legend side-by-side with other phones, but I have an overall feeling that my old HTC Magic was more stable wrt GSM/3G networking.
The main problem for me is that quite often Legend cannot keep connections/phone calls alive when switching between EDGE and 3G networks. I've never had such problems with Magic (on the same operator, Swisscom in my case).
I'm not sure if this happens because of weaker reception, a bug in the Legend's radio, or some sort of incompatibility with my operator's network. (The old Magic was Swisscom-branded, so maybe it was tweaked for Swisscom in some way).
same here
I can confirm radio is generally weak with Legend. It loses GSM/3G connection completely in places where my previous phones (HTC Snap & Magic) were showing weak signal but were still holding connection. Same goes with Wi Fi unfortunately. My conclusion: Legend's radio is weaker compared to other phones. Don't get me wrong - you may never experience any problems if GSM/3G/Wi Fi signal is strong in your areas of inhabbitance. But in my case (work phone - so got to be reachable 24/7) it looks like Legend has Failed.
I've had a magic, hero and nexus one before the legend, and for me the legend seems weaker than hero/magic (which are the same in my experience) but MUCH better than the nexs one.#
Overall the legend has been ok though, the only annoying thing I've experienced is when I go into a no signal area (e.g. underground) and come back, it sometimes doesn't pick up a signal again and stays on no network until I switch off and on. Annoying if it's in your pocket and you've not noticed for a while...
Bad Wifi
I've had the Legend for 2 days now and I'm experiencing severe problems with radio.
Specifically wifi:
* Signal on Legend is VERY low compared to Hero
* I'm also loosing connection all the time, where my Hero was extremely stable
* Problem is worse when I'm using my laptop's wifi at the same time
- When laptop is turned off, wifi is somewhat stable on the Legend, when I'm surfing the web on my laptop AND using wifi on the Legend, I seem to have problems with both. I loose connection on the Legend and wifi on laptop is very slow. When Legend wifi is off, I have no problem whatsoever.
* I sometimes have problems accessing Market, Browser and other apps that require net access.
* Switching between wifi and 3G/Edge seems slow and doesn't always work
I AM comparing the Hero and Legend at the same time. I have no problem with Hero and Laptop running at the same time, only Legend and laptop!
Edit: I now about "early adopter syndrome" where they release something before it's finished. BUT this really isn't a new product in that respect, it's supposed to be an improvement. I did not get the Legend for this hassle. If it persists and nothing is gained from my email to HTC, I'm returning it as a defect product.
Can someone expert here give us more info about this and future dev or problem source ? As for me Even if I like the legend I can not understand how they can launch a device giving lower result that it's previous version : the htc hero... ???
Sooooo, Hero radio is ok and get's good signal strength........Hero is made of plastic. Legend radio is weak, drops connection a lot....Legend is made of aluminum. Is it possible that we will never get good reception on the Legend, that it's not a bug, but a weakness with the metal used. Like The first iPhone......and why they are doing glass/ceramic back in the 4G iPhone....
Just asking...I have the Legend as well if you think I'm dissing the Legend here.
nexus one is plastic and from my experience has considerably worse signal strength
The problem for me is more on the wifi reception even if signal is 3/4 I experience a lot of time error in the internet browser, and it become unusefull...
I juste ahad a reply from the HTC support and SO PLEASE SEND THEM A REQUEST IF YOU EXPERIENCE THE SAME PROBLEM as they told me not too much people 've reported actually this problem so they can not sent the development to the dev team...
"New Response
Dear Thank you for your enquiry about htc legend. We regret but as far as we are concern there is not known issue on htc legend regarding the radio and wifi. Once we have a big number of customers with a similar case then we will report this issue to our developers in order to create an update, but currently we do not have enough of examples. If these steps have not helped, please let me know by responding using the link provided and I will be happy to check again for you. Best regards, Ivona HTC customer support team HTC Corp. Global Service Division http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx
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i have not had any reception issues with my legend. however the fm radio is terrible lol
noobdeagle said:
i have not had any reception issues with my legend. however the fm radio is terrible lol
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FM Radio depends on your headphones/earphones since it uses that wire as an antenna.
I don't have anything to compare against, though I am pretty disappointed with the wifi reception... Does it use the ring around the camera lens as the antenna?
Has anyone tried WiFi Fixer?
I've been told that the Legend has trouble with Dlink routers. I have a Dlink 825 and my Hero had no trouble with this router. But with the Legend, I'm experiencing dropped signals and interference with my Laptop connection when the Legend is connected as well. My friend then replaced the same router with a Zyxel one and has full coverage.
Im having the same issues..even when i have strong wifi signal, it often cannot connect to anything and I have to turn wifi off and on. (netgear router)
I also have issues with 3G, the signal is all over the place...when other phones have a good signal, sometimes when i come from standby the signal is gone completely (showing a 'x' on the signal bar), this is in the middle of the city with strong signal from all other phones!
I have turned off 3G and using only GSM and have not had problems since.
stanace said:
FM Radio depends on your headphones/earphones since it uses that wire as an antenna.
I don't have anything to compare against, though I am pretty disappointed with the wifi reception... Does it use the ring around the camera lens as the antenna?
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well compared to my cowon S9 radio which is perfect the legend is useless. yes i know that its related to the headphones but if a pair of Q-Jays isnt good enough than i dont know what is
as for the internal recievers i have started to have a problem with the mobile data connection. even in a strong location it just doesnt recieve im betting its a software issue tho cause it reads full strength and still does it sometimes a reset of the phone makes it work again but it will randomly cut off after its been on for a while
No problems with wi-fi here (whereas my TP2 sometimes struggles to initially connect) but the GSM radio performance is below what my TP2 gets in the same location. GPRS is possible however. Don't have 3G signal here.
Not sure whether this indicates a big problem as have only had Legend for 1 day but have seen "emergency calls only" quite a few times It kinda comes and goes.
Having said that, the TP2 was a bit flakey here (all mobile network signals aren't great here at home) until the 4.xx.xx.91 radio ROM upgrade, now it's better. (started on 3.something, whatever Voda initially released the 6.1 TP2 with ... I forget tbh)
Hopefully we will see a radio upgrade.
paradoxni said:
Im having the same issues..even when i have strong wifi signal, it often cannot connect to anything and I have to turn wifi off and on. (netgear router)
I also have issues with 3G, the signal is all over the place...when other phones have a good signal, sometimes when i come from standby the signal is gone completely (showing a 'x' on the signal bar), this is in the middle of the city with strong signal from all other phones!
I have turned off 3G and using only GSM and have not had problems since.
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I have exactly the same problem on both wifi and 3G, it deconnect even if signal is ok... and I Have to turn it off and turn it on... Can a specialist confirm this and tell me if the problem come from our phone, the radio firmware or the mattalic case of the legend ???
THX