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Hi , I would like to know if anybody figured out when sending an email or SMS how to go from "To:" to the actual message you will type without touching the screen ?
The Tab key didn't work for me .
Doesn't the down arrow do it? Works for me.
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Both Tab and the Down arrow work for me. Just tried.
Press Message button to go to Pocket Outlook.
Tap LHS soft key to select New
Type first few letters of contact's name.
When number is suggested, press down arrow to select number.
Press Enter to fill in the number.
Press Tab to move to message area.
Type message
nope it doesn't on my xda exec, if I press the down arrow, the scroll bar will go down but the cursor is still on the "to:"
I dont' have a scrollbar anywhere on the New Message screen. I'm running in VGA landscape mode though. Maybe that's the difference.
Doesn't Tab work?
nope the tab + down key didn't work, it will go down on the scroll bar but the cursor will still be on on the "to:"
You said you were on VGA landscape mode, is it with ozvga ? or did you have asetting on the phone itself ?
jeux_1 said:
You said you were on VGA landscape mode, is it with ozvga ? or did you have asetting on the phone itself ?
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Yeah - it's OzVGA.
Man, it would be really annoying if I had to use the stylus to create SMS. This is the biggest benefit for me: Doing (almost) everything in the system using only the keyboard. I hope you find a solution soon.
yeah, I just have to use my dirty fingers to put the cursor in the right place :?
One quick question, I have some app like wisbar/ netfront 3.3 in VGA already, if I install ozvga will it miss it up or they will still look the same ?
Or maybe there is only one way to find out.... :wink:
If you're using WA2 with OzVGA, you'll have to switch to a QVGA version of your Wisbar theme, otherwise it'll all go very weird. Not too much of a problem though, it just takes up a bit more space in your Themes folder having two versions of the same theme, and you need to switch them manually in WA2 when you switch resolutions.
This is because the system uses 96dpi (QVGA) icons, toolbars, fonts, etc, etc when running OzVGA.
thanks, I'll have a go.
still playing with it, just wait on an update so the phone can have a decent response time, miss my xdaIIs for that but, it is another subject 8)
Still love it BTW!
jeux_1, i have the same exact issue. It was driving my pretty crazy, but it helps to know someone else has this issue. Have you found a fix?
For the last three weeks, I was using the keyboard to write SMS, and my TAB key was moving the cursor from 'To' to the body of the message...
And now, suddenly, it does only a scroll down, like the down arrow, but stay in the 'To' field... :?
Any idea :?: it's really annoying....
Does anybody have an idea about that :?:
I think it is a bug for the O2 EXEC, my friend have an Orange one and work works fine.
I don't think there is a solution and it is a bug on the O2 one. Any of you guys can confirm ?
There is as well a new guy with a new Rom I will ask him if he has the same issue.
Actually, I use a Qtek 9000, different ROM
And it was working for at least three weeks... and now, it does'nt work anymore... smth changed, but I cannot find out what
here goes my theory..... :?
Ok, I found the solution.... my TAB key works again..
The problem came from Tweaks2k2 .NET, version 3.15... as soon as I apply changes with it, the TAB behavior changes... :evil:
Hi All
I've got an O2 XDA Mini S which I've set up using the corporate option, so I no longer have the O2 Software running.
Whenever I start a new conversation in MSN messenger, the soft keyboard pops up, even if the real keyboard is exposed.
This is really annoying as I have to minimise the soft keyboard on every new conversation.
Can anyone help?
Driving me mad! :roll: LOL
D'Oh!
Just tried to make a word document and it's doing the same thing!!!
GRRRRR!
I have tried setting the input options from keyboard to phonepad and it's still doing it.
just start typing (DON'T click it away!). for me after that it remembers that i don't want to use the onscreen keyboard.
OK, so I just rebooted the machine and it's not popping up now.
However, the MSN chat window is all squashed up at the top of the screen... As if there was a softkeyboard there.
I think I'm going to have to get used to the occasional reboot on this!
Thanks for your quick response!
Clicking on the SIP button in the bottom right should disable the soft keyboard, and according to some, it should retain that setting. I don't have a Wiz so I can't confirm, but one way or the other, it might help you to install a dummy SIP. PHM Tools installs one.
PHM Ext. Keyboard SIP PowerToy
The PHM Ext. Keyboard is an empty input panel you can use when you have an external keyboard connected (such as thumb, collapsible, foldable, wireless, ... keyboard) and do not want an input panel to take valuable screen estate.
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yah this annoys me as well, when browsing in landscape and BOOM this keyboard that covers have the screen pops up! you can't even see what yoru typing...
anyway i remember reading a fix for this somewher, but it was before i got the device. anyone know where its at?
Hey, I changed mine from keyboard to the transcriber, it doesn't seem to popup now and it also give a full screen while on msn rather than only half screen where the keyboard should be.
Just tried this... Thanks!
It gives more of the screen available to MSN, but still not full screen for me.
If I click on the transcriber icon at the bottom of the screen, then click on it again to minimise it, I then get full screen.
Weird problems!
want to try the PHM Ext. Keyboard SIP PowerToy but theire website is down since some time. Could anybody please upload the files in this forum or somewhere else? (eg RapidShare.com,...)
THX!!!
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
PHM tools
I think they're all down for updates.
Here's a zip of all of them.
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so what exactly does that do? i don't want to install anything that can be solved by a reg edit. (dont have a mem card yet)
Fone - one of the cabs installs a dummy SIP called external keyboard or something. It's for people that use external keyboards, basically don't one the built in ones popping up all the time.
It's small, I'd install it if you have a need. If you really don't need the built in keyboards and want a registry only solution, you can disable the SIPs through the registry. Not recommended though.
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Alternatively, as it's just 1 install:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/nullkeyboard.shtml
( could probably hack apart the PHM tools CAB just as well )
thanks a lot, just what i needed!!
CIAO!
VOODOOS!L
Excellent! Works a treat!! Thank You.
Ahh, null keyboard is by beemer. He's a great coder, check out his today plugins for wondrous pleasures.
These null keyboard type things do pretty much the same thing, ie nothing. However, if you're really geeky, Brighthand forums has a large review of a number of them. Use whatever works though.
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its ok, i'll go ahean and install it. i just thought somehow someone could make a couple regedits that would tell the device if in landscape dont show onscreen keyboard. but i guess its more complex than i thought.
short of intercepting it, I don't think so
Technically, software needs to check they keyboard status, and then suppress the SIP from popping up when activating text entry elements (stuff's in MSDN somewhere). Thing is - most people are either too lazy to do so, or aren't aware of any need to do so, or just don't know they -can- do so
There is a registry entry (at least in mine) HasExtKeyboard or something to that effect. I set it from 0 to 1, but it does nothing. Do a registry search for it. Perhaps someone can make a SIP that will normally not pop up anything, but with a keystroke or a tap on the icon will pop it up when you need it.
I'd just like a slim SIP that would have keys like Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo, etc.
There is a registry entry (at least in mine) HasExtKeyboard or something to that effect. I set it from 0 to 1, but it does nothing. Do a registry search for it. Perhaps someone can make a SIP that will normally not pop up anything, but with a keystroke or a tap on the icon will pop it up when you need it.
I'd just like a slim SIP that would have keys like Cut/Copy/Paste/Undo, etc.
Anyone get Tengo to work on the TyTN? I installed it, soft reset it, and I see it when I hit the arrow next to the screen button that brings up the keyboard. But whenever I try to switch to Tengo, it just brings up the onscreen keyboard. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? This is supposedly the WM5 version.
2 possibilities
1) Have you set Tengo as the default keyboard?
Go into Word/or whatever
tap on the keyboard and the littlle up arrow to bring up the Sip selection
tap on the down arrow next to the word keyboard and select Tengo
tap options
tap settings
tick set Tengo as default keyboard
soft reset and see if that helps
2)do you have any Today screen plug-ins showing?
If so try diabling them all and then selecting Tengo, does it work now?
There seems to be a general problem with SIPs and Today plug ins, this apparently has nothing to do with memory, but something to do with the plug ins etc I have this very problem with Calligrapher, one of my favourite apps, I have now had to uninstall it as it conflicted with my spb diary plug in. It was an either or choice, and I can't live without diary.
Write pad used to sometimes be selectable, but Calligrapher never unles I disbled Diary.
I have similar problems with other SIP(eg not Tango), which, for some reason they just won't work. I played around it a few times and noticed some ways around the problem. Say, for example, I noticed that whenever I softreset, and the very first thing to do is to create a new SMS, switch SIPfrom keyboard to the installed one, it will fail (showing only the keyboard). However, if I were to switch from keyboard to letter recognition, and then to the SIP, it works. After that, it will work all the time. You may try that on your tango.
Hi
I only discovered all of this because I was having so many problems with Calligrapher. About a couple of months ago, I had to do a hard reset and decided instead of using backup, to reinstall apps one by one, and leave some time between to gauge what had gone wrong before.
Anyway, when the new Calligrapher came out, I decided to re-install this application as I was really missing it.
However, there was no way I could get write anywhere to show up.
When I selected it, keyboard came up.
If I selected transcriber, then I could sometimes get write pad to show up, but not always.
I made it my default sip, no difference
I uninstalled TenGo and reinstalled calligrapher - no difference
I tried everything and then did a google search and read about the today plug ins problem. Sure enough, on an empty today screen, Calligrapher ran a treat.
Enabling Phonealarm - still working
Enabling Pocket Plus - still working
Enabling Spb Diary - not working
So, basically I had to choose between Diary and Calligrapher - a hard choice, but I'm afraid Diary won.
It's a shame though, from what Phatware say on their site (this is on their FAQ) list it's a common problem, and not one they can do anything about. It's the OS they say. Apparently people thought this was cured with WM5 - obviously not.
I'm really very annoyed about this, as I have paid for the license etc, and cannot use the app. However, it's not their fault, so I can't ask for my money back. I did think of trying PBreeze instead, but I think that probably it would be the same story, it's to do with the number of today plugins you have installed, not a memory or space problem.
Anyway, hope you resolve your problem.
See this post here, it may solve the problem for you.
mindracing said:
See this post here, it may solve the problem for you.
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You can try install this SIP tweak and select the desired SIP.
Tap Start>Program>G4 SIP Startup and select the desired SIP like Tengo etc, and soft reset.
Please feedback the result. thanks.
Is this better or different (if so how) than SIPCHANGE.CAB?
I had problems with Resco Keyboard and SIPCHANGE.CAB fixed it.
I'm about to install Tengo (used it a few years ago and pretty impressed) and want to know which CAB I should use to make it work reliably.
I installed Tengo today and used SIPCHANGE and it works great. Had to do it twice though as after the first time I still had to set Tengo as default in Tengo options.
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I installed Tengo today and used SIPCHANGE and it works great. Had to do it twice though as after the first time I still had to set Tengo as default in Tengo options.
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TENGO would not load even with SIPCHANGE at startup if password lock is enabled, do you encounter this problem ? i've tried modifying the sequence of the .lnk in startup but no luck. Disable password lock is the only way it seems but i do require password lock, win some lose some ?
TenGo and Today plug-ins
marisa4755 said:
2)do you have any Today screen plug-ins showing?
If so try diabling them all and then selecting Tengo, does it work now?
There seems to be a general problem with SIPs and Today plug ins, this apparently has nothing to do with memory, but something to do with the plug ins etc I have this very problem with Calligrapher, one of my favourite apps, I have now had to uninstall it as it conflicted with my spb diary plug in. It was an either or choice, and I can't live without diary.
Write pad used to sometimes be selectable, but Calligrapher never unles I disbled Diary.
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hmmmm... strange, when i had ilauncher i was having the same problem with tengo, uninstalled ilauncher, installed spb pocket plus and tengo's running with no probs now...
I am looking for a regedit to change the default input method. I am particularly fond of PCMKeyboard and use it religiously but every time I soft reset it always defaults back to the 20 button Touch Keyboard.
Thanks in advance, Dan.
dharvey4651 said:
I am looking for a regedit to change the default input method. I am particularly fond of PCMKeyboard and use it religiously but every time I soft reset it always defaults back to the 20 button Touch Keyboard.
Thanks in advance, Dan.
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Took me a while to figure this out, but you have to first completely disable the Touch keyboard. If you use the standard default sip settings Touch keyboard will always override it on a soft reset.
Reversible method:
Go to [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{198D503A-EFFE-4afd-BC54-EED333C80E6D}\InprocServer32] change the default value from \windows\ezinput.dll to something else like \windows\del_ezinput.dll
Also change the default value at [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{198D503A-EFFE-4afd-BC54-EED333C80E6D}\IsSIPInputMethod] to 0
Do the same thing at [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{62B00599-25D2-4e09-8C48-03BF26DB8517}]
(Note: You can also completely delete these two keys rather than renaming the values.)
Then you can use the standard method of setting the default sip. Go to [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip] change the defaultim key to the right value for PCMkeyboard (never used it so i'm not sure). Just search HKCR\CLSID for the keyboard you want and copy down it's CLSID with the brackets then put that in for the defaultim.
Let me know if that doesn't make sense and I'll explain it more thoroughly.
~Xen
Awesome. Thanks a bunch man. Worked like a charm.
Or others that need to change the default SIP may use the attached .cab. Have fun ...
thank you so much, this was getting to be so annoying
I have tried sipchange however the standerd is still wrong after a soft reset. Sipchange hasn't really done anything or do I need to follow a certain order?
look for a program called IMSelector. It works on my Touch where SIPChange did not
EliteXen said:
Took me a while to figure this out, but you have to first completely disable the Touch keyboard. If you use the standard default sip settings Touch keyboard will always override it on a soft reset.
Reversible method:
Go to [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{198D503A-EFFE-4afd-BC54-EED333C80E6D}\InprocServer32] change the default value from \windows\ezinput.dll to something else like \windows\del_ezinput.dll
Also change the default value at [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{198D503A-EFFE-4afd-BC54-EED333C80E6D}\IsSIPInputMethod] to 0
Do the same thing at [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{62B00599-25D2-4e09-8C48-03BF26DB8517}]
(Note: You can also completely delete these two keys rather than renaming the values.)
Then you can use the standard method of setting the default sip. Go to [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip] change the defaultim key to the right value for PCMkeyboard (never used it so i'm not sure). Just search HKCR\CLSID for the keyboard you want and copy down it's CLSID with the brackets then put that in for the defaultim.
Let me know if that doesn't make sense and I'll explain it more thoroughly.
~Xen
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I did that and and it killed my Touch. I had to reset then restore backup. Basically after I made the changes and rebooted it kept coming to black screen with no functionality. Has anyone had that problem? (Before that I had the SIP change installed. Could have been the problem?)
Thanks,
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I did that and and it killed my Touch. I had to reset then restore backup. Basically after I made the changes and rebooted it kept coming to black screen with no functionality. Has anyone had that problem? (Before that I had the SIP change installed. Could have been the problem?)
Thanks,
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Has anyone been able to make the registry method work on the Touch?
I've tried it twice ad both times I get a dead reboot. So I had to hard reset and restore from backup.
SultanH said:
Has anyone been able to make the registry method work on the Touch?
I've tried it twice ad both times I get a dead reboot. So I had to hard reset and restore from backup.
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I also get a dead reboot. Looks like OP forgot to mention something...
BTW, TouchPal's CLSID might be
{802C691C-EB46-442c-BC54-DC2C42B156C3}
SultanH said:
Has anyone been able to make the registry method work on the Touch?
I've tried it twice ad both times I get a dead reboot. So I had to hard reset and restore from backup.
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I use this method on my touch immediately after a hard reset and it always works. I think the instructions are pretty clear.
Are you deleting the key or just renaming it.
Also could you try backing up your phone then hard resetting and following the directions before you reinstall/restore anything. You can use Mobile Registry Editor to make the changes through Activesync.
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I use this method on my touch immediately after a hard reset and it always works. I think the instructions are pretty clear.
Are you deleting the key or just renaming it.
Also could you try backing up your phone then hard resetting and following the directions before you reinstall/restore anything. You can use Mobile Registry Editor to make the changes through Activesync.
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I renamed the first two and deleted the second two. Maybe b/c I didn't do it once after hard reset.
works fine for me... i prefer the standard keyboard as well.. anyone know if it's possible to enlarge the keys a little more by a registry setting? i'd like to keep the "Large" keys but also retain the number keys on top as well. if i switch to large keys the number pad disappears, possible to have numbers+larger buttons?
if this is in the registry, anyone know where i should look or is the standard keyboard size fixed?
IMSelector did not work for my vogue but SipChange did. No need to fool around with the registry which I'm scared to try.
Did you try to use SKTools? I use this app. and its woking on my HTC Diamond.
To cwzkevin,
I have also experienced deadlocks at the next boot. They seem to be related to using an wrong CLSID for the desired new input method. At least for each language this is different.
My changes, according to the original post from EliteXen, did work on a german Swisscom branded HTC Touch Pro, but provoked the black screen on reboot on a english Swisscom branded HTC Touch Diamond.
I did delete both keys, not changing them.
So, look up the CLSID first, before using it.
br, Marcel
Just out of interest and im not really a fan of the default one. I have recently installed the Touch HD? Keyboard cab which has a really nice keyboard that is big enough to be used with fingers, is there anyway of setting this as the default instead of always having too select it instead of the small blue one? Hopefully it's just a registry setting but I can't seem to spot anything.
I don't think anyone seems to have asked this before either, certainly nothing came up in a search of default keyboard.
I don't have my X1 yet, so I'm afraid I can't comment on your problem.
But, I was wondering, does the hardware keyboard still work correctly (@, etc.), and have you lost predictive contacts with the hardware keyboard also? I'm trying to get a list of what to install when I get my X1, and I'm kinda stuck with regards to the keyboard, Touch Pal seems to be the way to go, as it doesn't replace the original DLL.
I went into settings->Input and switched it to full QWERTY, Now the HTC one pops up instead of the blue one.
by doing that, after soft reset the ketboard returns to the original small blue one...
I tried to switch it in iput settigs but i still ge the blue one. Do I need to do anything on the registry?
Get SKTools (not the Standard one, the full one) and set default keyboard there. The standard WM6 config page doesn't seem to remember settings when you try set the Touch HD keyboard as default.
aussiebum said:
Get SKTools (not the Standard one, the full one) and set default keyboard there. The standard WM6 config page doesn't seem to remember settings when you try set the Touch HD keyboard as default.
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hi there, i have SK tools but couldnt find the option for default keyboard.
Which part of the program should i look at?
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I don't have my X1 yet, so I'm afraid I can't comment on your problem.
But, I was wondering, does the hardware keyboard still work correctly (@, etc.), and have you lost predictive contacts with the hardware keyboard also? I'm trying to get a list of what to install when I get my X1, and I'm kinda stuck with regards to the keyboard, Touch Pal seems to be the way to go, as it doesn't replace the original DLL.
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I have installed a few different keyboards on WM6 with my xperia and all of them have not changed the layout of the hardware keyboard, it has not changed at all. It's only the software keyboard. Predictive contacts? Predictive words? It certainly suggests words on the normal blue one, though I haven't noticed it on the Touch HD one, though to be honest I don't like anything predictive.
I have also been changing it and yes it sticks with it but as soon as the phone is switched off and back on, it changes back so I presume it's something in the registry but i've no idea what to look for. Certainly "keyboard" doesn't show anything or indicate anything that could be changed.
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hi there, i have SK tools but couldnt find the option for default keyboard.
Which part of the program should i look at?
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It's under the Maintenaince => Input Methods. Click on the Category button to get there.
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I have also been changing it and yes it sticks with it but as soon as the phone is switched off and back on, it changes back so I presume it's something in the registry but i've no idea what to look for. Certainly "keyboard" doesn't show anything or indicate anything that could be changed.
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Changes to default keyboard via SKTools is permanent, it stays even after phone is switched off/on.
Thanks for the help thus far. I have been using SKTools since you mentioned it now and have found on a couple of occassions that it doesn't save and I need to change it. The majority of the time it does. Now you can enable/disable certain parts but the wierd thing is you cannot fully default to a different keyboard. When I select the Full QWERTY keyboard as default it sets and says Completed 1 in a little pop up box (I think it's completed) Regardless once you do that, if you try and disable or remove the default Keyboard (wm6 default) it says that you cannot because it is set at default and you must select another to be the default first. Which contradicts itself because it won't let you.
It's obviously a registry key somewhere that can be changed but to hell if I can find it. Im only using SK tools for this purpose so it would be nice to find it and then remove the utility.
Any further ideas?
how come i also install the HD keyboard but i doesnt seem to work??? even when i change to compact keyboard it still remain the same.... someone help mi pls....
Kris1986 said:
how come i also install the HD keyboard but i doesnt seem to work??? even when i change to compact keyboard it still remain the same.... someone help mi pls....
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did you soft reset after installing??
Here's the registry setting that did the job for me:
## ENABLE HTC FULL QWERTY AS DEFAULT KEYBOARD ##
RegWriteString("HKCU","\ControlPanel\SIP","Default Im","{36BC8FF6-8241-4c36-ABDE-204885471FEE}")
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Found here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451958
Thanks Prosto that did the trick though I seem to have broke something. I don't think this is related but...
After I did the registry change I uninstalled SKTools and restarted the phone, then tried to start windows media player. While it starts, as soon as I try to play any type of music/video, look in the library or update library the phone freezes and I have to take the battery out to reset it. Don't understand where I was going wrong with this, i've obviously buggered something up but not being able to listen to my music is a big downer! Don't suppose you would have any ideas?