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MDA Pro locks up unexpectadly!! Anyone else....

MDA Pro locks up unexpectadly!! Anyone else had this experience? My wifes MDA Pro for no apparent reason freezes or lock-up 2 - 3 times a day and then requires a soft-reset to be operational again. I every other aspect, it works perfectly, it's just those damn lock-ups. It results in missed calls etc, as the phone is then out of action and one wouldn't be aware of it until you pick it up to use it.
Have exchanged this phone twice in 2 weeks because of it! I believe it's the ROM, even though when not locked-up, it performs extremely well. I am considering flashing the ROM with the Jasjar Rom, as this is now stable.
Anyone tried and had success in doing this, and if so, how do you find it after the upgrade?

Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.

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simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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Hi simba:Thanks for the response.
That's great that you no longer suffer these issues of 'lock-ups', but do you know exactly what .cabs are omitted from install? The reason I ask, is that when you do this process on the jasjar ROM, you loose 3G video calling and the dialler skin. Have you noticed anything like that as yet?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.

Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
mackaby007 said:
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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Hi simba:Thanks for the response.
That's great that you no longer suffer these issues of 'lock-ups', but do you know exactly what .cabs are omitted from install? The reason I ask, is that when you do this process on the jasjar ROM, you loose 3G video calling and the dialler skin. Have you noticed anything like that as yet?
Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated.
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Unfortunately I can not answer your question. I do not use 3G video calling. Also I did not missed any apps of T-mobile yet. I even noticed that without the extended rom apps, MSN is present on my MDA Pro. Probably when installing the extended rom, it removes MSN.
I have read on the forum that members have succeeded in getting the MDA Pro updated to Jasjar Rom. Be carefull tough, as your are actually 'killing' your MDA Pro and then reviving it.

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simba said:
I have read on the forum that members have succeeded in getting the MDA Pro updated to Jasjar Rom. Be carefull tough, as your are actually 'killing' your MDA Pro and then reviving it.
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Please elaborate. 'Killing the MDA Pro'? What just by flashing the ROM? :?
It's important I learn what you mean, because I'm seriously contemplating this exact move, as I'm tired of exchanging my wifes Pro for yet another one!

It's not dangerous. I am a girl and I challenge you to do it.
Anyway, if you need me to send the files that I used for flashing my MDA pro, just tell me, I could send/upload it. I keep it because *someone* (read PM) might need it later.

Re:Here we go!!
dianna_wills said:
It's not dangerous. I am a girl and I challenge you to do it.
Anyway, if you need me to send the files that I used for flashing my MDA pro, just tell me, I could send/upload it. I keep it because *someone* (read PM) might need it later.
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You're on!! :roll: The fact that you're a 'girl' means nothing to me. You're obviously a techie and that makes you one of the guys as far as I'm concerned! Had to say that....my wifes standing over me with a pick-axe :lol: Thanks for your reply. PM'd you back. About to get cracking!! :wink:

I can live with it!!
And there's me thinking it's a simple procedure like upgrading the ROM on the jasjar! Stupid me!
No way am I chancing a patched version of the ROM update and hoping I don't retire my wifes' Pro. I think we'll wait till November and use the t-mobile ROM when it comes out. Thanks all the same diana_wills. You're obviously more than just a techie....you've got bigger nuts than I'll have left if I get this wrong!

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Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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I've done this and noticed there is alot more free RAM too!
One question tho, does anyone know where to get the intelli dialler for WM2K5?

Re: Extended rom not installed - no lock up so far
hollinshead said:
simba said:
I had the same issue. A couple of lock ups per day. I decided to do a hard reset and when it tried to install the apps of the extended rom after the hard reset, I prevented this by soft resetting the MDA Pro.
Currently only the standard apps of WM5 is installed. So far I have not had any lock ups.
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I've done this and noticed there is alot more free RAM too!
One question tho, does anyone know where to get the intelli dialler for WM2K5?
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Yes there is at least 40MB storage space, but no 3G video calling! What else is missing from the omitted cab installation? I noticed a performance boost as well when not installing the extRom, but without knowing for sure what is left behind, I've had to revert to the full ROM.

There isn't anything missing apart from the t-mobile ****e!
All programs etc are there

Quick tip... I found that If you let the first two cabs install THEN press reset as the third one is loading, you'll have video calling and intellidialler back, but nothing else from the ExtROM. (This is on my JasJar, can't guarantee this'll work on the MDA Pro)
Hope this helps...

Thanks sub69. From my observations of hard resetting the MDA Pro, there seem to be some vital cabs being installed later on in the install, hence my reason for reverting to the full t-mobile ROM.

One thing i noticed by avoiding the cabs install was that my device had no mms support at all, neither in inbox or programs.
Where can you download the t-mobile roms when they are available, is there a site like my-xda ?
Adam

I just updated mine to the JASJAR rom, works mint now!
Has MSN and skype too!
Also you can select network when u set it up, and it installs all mms settings!

My Magician freezes

Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias

Helle again,
As you've got the same problems on rom 1.12 & 1.13 and you got it just for a week I'd say go back and get another one. There are people with simular issues and I guess there are much more users without it, like myself.
So my advice use your warrenty, make a backup of your contacts etc. first with sprite (trial version is available) or AS or whatever, saves you a lot of times. I won't restore the apps just reinstall, maybe it is some combination of a faulty program & with a backup you get that back as well. And it gives you the chance to determine, if possible, what's causing the freeze.
Good luck, M

ok, then thanks again
Today I made a ROM update @ T-Mobile. If that did not the trick (I will look for errors the next days), then I will use my warranty and change the device itself. I hope they don't send it to technical support somewhere, but give me another one instead...
Greetings and thanks for your infos, Matthias

haimat said:
Hello all,
last week I got my new HTC Magician, here in Austria so called "T-Mobile MDA Compact". Unfortunately I have the problem, that my device freezes from time to time (at least 1 time a day). This happens most of the time when using the T-Mobile IntelliDialer, but sometimes it happens even when I do not use the device at all.
When the problem occurs, I am not able to make or receive a call, the upper status LED is gone as well (no signal, no blinking).
When I got the device I had ROM 1.13 installed, but after I heard that maybe this could cause the problems, I installed version 1.12 from T-Mobile site, but still have the same problems.
Now I am really out of ideas, don't know what to do. It seems I am not the only one with this problem, so I am afraid it hase no sense to switch the device with a new one @ a T-Mobile shop. Or do you guys have a "good", normal running Magician w/o this bug?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Greetings, Matthias
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Hi,
I have been using my Magician for almost 8-9 months .. moving from ROM version 1.11 to 1.13 WWE BigStorage (radio 1.11 to 1.13 as well).Recently (last 1mth or so) I start to notice that I have a strange problem similiar to you, my 'radio' would 'hang' where I cannot receive or make calls, can't even receive or send SMS. However, my signal (the top bar signal strengh) will still work. This is really fustrating .. because the PDA still works, I won't know when my Magician 'hangs' ... (at least until I try to send SMS or make a call).
I've downgraded to Radio 1.11 & ROM 1.11 ... I'm still facing this problem, but not as often (sometime once in 2 days). The strange thing is that my wife who is using a Magician as well, is facing the same problem (symptom arrise almost the same time together). Both our phone used to be fine.
So far, no luck trying to locate the source of the problem, and I don't think both our magician's hardware got screwed at the same time ... I have a feeling, it has something to do with GPRS ... gut feel ... but cannot confirm.
Anyone face this problem and managed to solve it, I would appreciate any pointers ... Many thanks!
Note : I don't install additional ROM software such as CallerID, etc ... I only use intellidialer.

Hello, you could be right with your GPRS feeling, I have it as well...
Is the LED of your device blinking, when you have one of these freezes?

Hi guys,
Don't know if this gets you on the right track, but a few months ago I had major memory problems with my magician. Thought it was a virus, probably was one or two today plug-ins that consumed all of my memory very rapidly. Think of plug-ins like OO journalbar. Didn't look at the led blinking I just soft-reseted to solved the prob. for a few minutes. Very inconvenience when you're navigating in a car.
Since I ditched these plug-ins eveything is fine, tried them afterwards of course & noticed the memory leaks.
When you're not using anything like those apps. it must be something else. Maybe there's something on the forum.
Cheers, M

I thought about some apps or plugins as problem source too, so I refreshed my device without installing any additional app to it -- no success. So I still have these hangups, even if I have no tool installed...

Sounds like really s..tty problem.
Does the use of gprs or phone functionalities make any difference? what happens when you skip the ext-rom installation (hard-reset & soft-reset just before the customization kicks in) & go for basic WM2003, without all the TMO apps&branding?
M

... tried this allready, but without any difference, device freezes serveral times a day. I would say it's a hardware fault, can't think of another problem source.
Yesterday I spoke with a T-Mobile tech @ T-Mobile support. He told me, he is not aware of this problem and he always had "good" devices. And he updated my ROM to latest version...
Since I still have the problem, I will change my device now and see if this makes any difference!

haimat,
I think exchanging your magician is the best option, the techi might be right in saying he only encountered good ones. Haven't found much error reports like yours, so the rest must be good (look at the bright side). Hope you can trade it directly without any hassle & enjoy your magician for the rest of it's lifetime.
Found some people with a universal with simular probs. didn't read all posts though there were so many. So can't tell you how it ended, it's about a JasJas that hangs and hangs and ...
In the meantime good luck with the change of your device.
Cheers, M

New O2 Exec ROM version 1.13.82 WWE

Just received a replacement for my faulty O2 Exec and it's got a new ROM version:
ROM: 1.13.82 WWE
ROM date: 30/11/05
Radio: 1.04.02
Protocol: 42.37.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.188 WWE
Only difference I've noticed so far is that the Personal install option has been dropped.

GREAT NEWS !!!!
Me wanna get it!

cool...
so how is it? better than ever before? ;o)))
no, seriously. is it any better?
thanx
buzz

Does it have the Blackberry WM5 Client?

Obviously, everyone is keen to know the differences/improvements/mess ups, so post up as soon as you notice anything!!
How about the bluetooth switching itself off, that should be easy to test?

buzz_lightyear said:
cool...
so how is it? better than ever before? ;o)))
no, seriously. is it any better?
thanx
buzz
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Buzz .. any chance for some dump ?

I presume that updating the ROM means that you lose all your data and basically have to start from scratch??

Updating the ROM would be like a hard reset, so you'd lose anything that wasn't backed up or on the storage card.
1 other difference in the ROM I've noticed it in the couple of hours I've had it: Error reporting and incoming beams are both turned off by default (not exactly a big deal, I know).
I've no idea if it has a blackberry client. How would I tell?
I've no need for bluetooth yet since the wife's got Tom Tom 5 under wraps until Christmas, but I've switched it on and will report back in 24 hours to see if it's switched itself off or not!

Start dreaming up your wishlist for this update Less memory leaks, less freezes on SMS receipt, less notification queue problems, less SD card problems, push email, blackberry software, stereo bluetooth... anything else?

LOL, true true - just sold my XDA2s on EBay (sadly for only £165) and I'm missing it already, just the speed, efficiency and streamlined operation is far superior to the Exec AT THE MOMENT.
I also think its ridiculous that you lose EVERYTHING when rom upgrading, imagine if upgrading to Windows Vista mean't you lost your personal data? It simply wouldn't happen so why do they believe PocketPC users should have to?

Hi Moandal, could you tell me if when you right an email from the keyboard and press the "tab" button, does it actually jump from "from" to the "message" ?
:lol:

jeux have you tried using the DOWN ARROW button?

yeah, I tried no luck, couple of other guys in another threat got that issue and I did hard reset the phone still no luck.

Back after a while away from XDA's - Anyhow, I've had the XDA exec a week and after many freeeeeeeze ups i decided to change it. Went into O2 in Bristol today and they almost admitted that the exec's had a known issue! The guy told me a 'NEW' batch had arrived today and they had been told that they should be a much more stable unit.
Gone is the personal install option and the battery bar is now on the today screen. The unit has opperated all day with no lock ups and the screen refresh when changing aspect is almost instant!!! (i've got all the same apps running so it is a level playing field)
Not much eles is obvious, but like i said it just runs much better - if any of you out ther are still within O2's exchange period then i would get one from the 'New' batch.
I'll report more when i've had a good play around

Widhill, is the new batch a software/rom update only? Or were there hardware issues with the old batch?
I guess I doubt they would tell you that much detail.

Jeux_1: Sorry I can't answer the e-mail question since I've not got e-mail set up on my Exec yet.
I've had bluetooth switched on for almost 24 hours now and it's still not switched itself off (although I haven't actually used the bluetooth). I'm not sure if this proves the bluetooth problem is fixed or not since I've not experienced the bluetooth-switching-off problem myself.

Hi Doody, It would seem that the issue is with the software not the hardware - however that is only my opinion. The new Exec seems to still be holding up and no problems yet! I give it a good going over later tonight and see if i can get to go wrong (haha). I have noticed that the O2 active program is still there but only if you tap on it in programs. The only way to get rid of it was to choose the install type again (only takes 15 secs to change and its gone) The biggest difference is the screen refresh on changing from landscape to portrait - It's Instant (well almost).
So before everyone panics - i would guess we will see a new update from O2 very soon!!!

hi Moandal,
could you please dump the ROM out of it?
If you need assistance, just let me know.
THANX
buzz

Jeux_1: I've set up email now and tab does take me from "from" to the message.
Buzz: I'll happily dump the ROM for you, but I'll need an idiot-level step by step guide!

Hi Jeux_1,
I don't have an XDA Exec, but i don't think you need the ROM upgrade to solve your problem...
I was having the same problem with my JasJar but it was solved using one of the registry hacks in Tweakz 2k2.Net
It's the hack that relates to smooth scrolling in Pocket Internet Explorer... what you need to do, is to turn it off so that PIE scrolls by link to link instead...
After which you should notice that you can easily swap between To, cc, Subject and message body in your e-mail messages....
I hope you find it useful...
Take it easy...

K-Jam restarts itself...

Hey Guys, is this only my issue or it happens to you as well?
I noticed that my K-Jam (Qtec or whatever) restarts itself from time to time. I have almost fresh (yesterday formatted) WM5, no today plugins, no additional appz installed. Sometimes when I look at my phone it shows Password Keypad which is set to lock the device after 24h of being idle (that's the way I realized it must have been restarted).
I didn't have enough time to play with it and check how often it does so, thought I will ask experts here first...
Right now I have 1.6.7.1 WWE ROM, I will update to newest today and check if it solves the problem (by the way ... which one do you recommend I-Mate or Qtec?).
Thanks!

TroLoo said:
I noticed that my K-Jam (Qtec or whatever) restarts itself from time to time. I have almost fresh (yesterday formatted) WM5, no today plugins, no additional appz installed. Sometimes when I look at my phone it shows Password Keypad which is set to lock the device after 24h of being idle (that's the way I realized it must have been restarted).
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this is quite well known issue. wizard sometimes resets itself without any particular reason and it was discussed here many times. i used to have this problem with my wizard, however after updating to AKU2 ROM, it got much much more stable than before. try to update ROM to newest AKU2 version and then check if problem persist.

eva_d said:
this is quite well known issue. wizard sometimes resets itself without any particular reason and it was discussed here many times. i used to have this problem with my wizard, however after updating to AKU2 ROM, it got much much more stable than before. try to update ROM to newest AKU2 version and then check if problem persist.
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Right... sorry for mentioning well known topic again then...
Thx for the reply!
TroLoo

I certainly had a major issues with this on the old rom.
However int eh past week I have lost 2 important phone calls when the damn thing has rebooted int eh middle of a telephone call.
Robin

HTC TyTN (HTC Hermes 300) very slow and sluggish

Hi there,
I'm new to this forum - and new to the whole Windows Mobile idea as I'm normally an avid Apple fan but I do make an exception when it comes to the phone as the iPhone (as of yet) is quite 'useless' when it comes functionality and flexibility compared to a Windows Mobile device.
In either case, I've recently flashed my MDA Vario II and, after having used Black Satin for a day or two, put on Schap's 3.60a WM6 ROM. The only reason i did not like Satin was that it combined the inbox/outbox for MMS and SMS messages (knowing my luck I'm sure there would have been an easy way around that).
Right, ever since I put on the WM6 ROM and installed a few other applications, such as Spb's Mobile Shell, Spb Weather, etc etc the phone seems to be incredibly sluggish and slow. I did a full re-set and then installed one application at a time to see if it has something to do with a particular bit of software. But I don't think that's the case as the phone acts pretty slow even with nothing installed after the hard re-set. But now, after a few days, it takes, for example, around 15seconds to show the Windows directory using either File Explorer or Resco's explorer. The start-up progress, especially the transition from the Splash Screen to the standard Home Screen is incredibly slow and happens in stages. It then takes about another 30 seconds for the keypad to come up, asking for my PIN.
I've been running all sorts of utilities such as MemMaid, PocketMechanic and SKTools to make sure that the device is in 'mint' condition but, if at all, this made little change to the overall speed.
I expected the phone to run slightly slower under WM6 compared to WM5 as, strictly speaking, the TyTN, as I understand it, was not designed with WM6 in mind - which may be the reason why a lot of providers here in the UK do not offer a WM6 upgrade. However, the phone has become uncomfortably slow and sluggish so is there any way to speed it up or is this a known issue with WM6 on the TyTN?
Also, not sure this is the right forum for this but I also tried to set up Direct Push and it works fine - only problem I have is that it does not seem to support WiFi (it does when I check manually but as soon as I utilise the Direct Push function, the phone insists to connect to the 3G network). Now this is not necessarily a big problem as I've got an unlimited data plan but when at home I am using WiFi and there is little point in having both switched on, WiFi and the Data Connection as that does drain the battery. Again, any ideas to solve this would be appreciated
Thank you guys

Hello mate,
Not sure why you are having the problems you are having. Anyway I run Schaps on my Tytn (see my sig), together with SPB products without any problems at all. The whole lot is rock solid.
My suggestion would be that you re-flash your device with the combination of ROM and Radio that I use, given I have confirmed no issues. If that works then you have at least proved your device is ok. If it doesn't work then your problem lies elsewhere, probably with the device.
Strong advice - make absolutely sure you have done all the things and taken all the precautions outlined in Mr Vanx's excellent guides (see here http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/)
I will track this thread to see how you get on.
Cheers
WB

Hello there...
How was your device under Satin? I am running Satin on an 8525, and it runs ok. Black Satin is also a WM6 rom. I am running HTC home, pocket breeze and iLauncher. SPB tends to let it slower, but not that slow for sure.
I suggest you read through the specific thread of Schaps 3.60. I am not sure, but i once read a few posts, and if i recall correctly, there were some problems with the version. Either that or 3.57... don't know for sure.
I also suggest re-flashing with a different rom. Or, read through the Satin thread here at XDA-devs or at 4winmobile, and there might be a fix for the mms/sms thingy. Then go back to Satin. There is also the Black X going on, but I think it is still beta...
Just don't forget to follow Mr. Vanx precautions, specially installing HardSPL v7, if you don't want a bricked device.
Let us know how it goes

Hey there,
Thanx for replying. I have been thinking about re-flashing the ROM but to see if that helps. I have been playing with the phone a lot so I may have somehow done something which I shouldn't have - whatever that may be :S
Can I ask ... in your sig you state that the 1.50 Radio is very buggy - what are the issues with it, cos I am using that one and was wondering if that could possibly be related to it?

Thanx for the replies guys. I've decided to re-flash the ROM and, it seems to be working fine again. I actually think the phone works slightly faster now as it did under the T-Mobile WM5 ROM. I haven't updated the Radio and stuck to 1.50 as I've read somewhere that it's working fine for the UK (lemme know if I'm wrong - they say there would be a noticable improvement in 3G reception, but I haven't seen that, but I dont seem to have any major issues with 1.50)
So, fingers crossed the phone won't slow down again - which I guess it shouldn't and I'll be careful what I install on it, making sure I have the latest versions of everything.
Thanx again for all your suggestions

Flipside,
Radio 1.50 caused me loads of problems; dropped calls, not being able to make a call for no reason, people not being able to reach me even though the phone was on and in an excellent signal area, having to reboot to get the radio to switch on, etc, etc.
Have not looked back since i went to 1.47. The lesson learnt for me was not to jump at the latest radio rom, just because its the latest. Latest does not necessarily mean best for ones particular circumstances.
Cheers
WB