Hi, new to all this but can anybody explain how exchange server and windows mobile communicate using push. Does it use SMS for notification and message is passed through gprs. what if gprs is turned off and wifi is being used will you still get notified? Thanks for the simplification
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I have an xda2 and was always able to collect my email from our Windows SBS2000 exchange server using VPN. Now we have upgraded to Windows SBS server 2003 we cannot get mail.
We are able to log onto the VPN.
We can even use the terminal services and see the server screen, but we cannot download mail.
If we try to get mail we get the following message:-
"Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected and your e-mail account settings are correct . Then, try to download messages again"
The email settings we are using are the same as those that worked with SBS2000 server.
Can anyone help please
Thanks
Sam
From what you wrote I have gotten this...
1. Using VPN to connect to work network.
2. You can access resources on work network, proving the VPN is working.
Now, how are you connecting to get your mail? POP, Exchange Mobile???
I am going to assume you have a reason for not just using Exchange Mobile via Internet, such as don't want external access to Exchange box etc. etc.
sbs2003 mail access
I am using pop3 to access.
This was the way I accessed with SBS2000 with no problems.
The settings of my XDA2 are:
email address: [email protected]
user name: [email protected]l
password: mypassword
account type: pop3
incoming mail: servername
outgoing mail: servername
When I ask it to get mail GPRS is loaded and then VPN is loaded
then I get "connecting" then after a period I get the above error message.
If I leave the email prog and go to Terminal Service I connect and see my login and I can log in.
Sam
pop3 isnt enabled by default in sbs 2003, check settings in exchange admin and in services to make sure youve got the pop3 service running
sbs2003 mail access
Thanks for your help. Pop3 was not started, and WILL NOT START I do not know why. It says look in the Event viwer but no errors appear there.
I have started Imap and that has worked and I am receiving my mail. Thanks for your help.
Sam
PS in your first email you refer to Exchange mobile via the internet.
Isv this a big deal to setup and what are the advantages.
Again thanks for your help. If you are busy please do not bother to answer the PS. I am gewtting my mail so all is ok
Thanks again
Sam
I had it working pretty much straight away, OMA is another thing. Ultimately, we moved on from Exchange Mobile as it didn't offer real-time push capability (unless using SMS).
We now use Pylon Anywhere and couldn't be happier. Not only does it do everything you want, it only costs $654 US for five users. It works with Pocket PC, Palm and Symbian (amongst others) based devices.
Is anyone else having problems with all email attempted to send from the Exec through o2's outgoing mail server returning a failure message at the moment?
Very frustrating. I like to quickly turn WiFi on, sync email and fire off a few snap responses when I get back to base before I decide whether to fire my PC up or not.
Have you clicking the 'outgoing mail requires authorization' box in account options?
I've never actually used my O2 e-mail account to send messages before, but after seeing this thread I tried it and sure enough it didn't work until I ticked the "outgoing mail requires authorisation" box!
Hopefully your advice will fix it for FunkyMagic too!
"I like to quickly turn WiFi on"
hi funky magic
you can't use your wifi connection with the smtp.o2.co.uk setting - that only works for gprs. for wifi you need to set the smtp to your internet provider NOT o2. i use Blueyonder for my home internet - so my smtp is smtp.blueyonder.co.uk - works perfectly. i actually have 2 mail accounts set up - one for use at home on wifi using blueyonder, the other for when i'm out and about using the o2 gprs connection
best
mikey mike
Cheers folk!
I think prior to today I was (without really thinking about it) -
Switching WiFi on.
Recieving new email.
Composing responses and hitting send.
Then just sticking the thing on the cable connected to my PC for charging where I leave it for a few hours before going out for the evening or 'fiddling' (at which point pass-through would have sent the emails correctly at the next 15min sync).
I was in a bit of a rush today to confirm an email had gone out so hit send/recieve after creating a new mail PRIOR to connecting to the wire which I don't think I normally do!
Problemo solved!
Mikey Mike said:
you can't use your wifi connection with the smtp.o2.co.uk setting - that only works for gprs.
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My O2 account with smtp.o2.co.uk works fine for me with wifi
I've just been fighting with this for about an hour, hopefully some of this might be of use to someone:
Receiving mail from an IMAP4 account on my own Linux server. Using the same server as an outgoing SMTP relay.
Everything worked as intended, but obviously could only send outgoing mail when connected via wireless network at home (the SMTP server only allows relay to IPs on the LAN, like most ISP's relays).
Clearly this isn't much use on a mobile device, so I reconfigure outgoing mail to use smtp.o2.co.uk. This fails, which I assumed was because I was not connected via the O2 network at the time.
I enable "outgoing mail requires authentication" and "use seperate settings", and enter my O2 username and password, as used to log in to the website. Still no Joy. I try various permutaions of the username and the previous version of my password, enabling SSL, etc. with no success.
Getting suspicious that this is an XDA issue, I create an SMTP account in Thunderbird on my desktop PC, using smtp.o2.co.uk with authentication. A little trial and error confirms that using "[email protected]" and your website password to authenticate (no SSL or anything clever enabled) works, even though my PC is connected to the internet via another ISP.
I try re-entering the settings a squillion times, rebooting the exec, etc, without any luck. I become suspicious that the changes in config aren't taking. I dig through the registry in search of the settings, but don't find them.
Then it occurs to me to delete the IMAP account entirely, reboot the exec, and re-create it from scratch, this time using the known-good settings for the O2 smtp server. This appears to have worked. I can send email via smtp.o2.co.uk, and it works regardless of whether I'm connected by UMTS to O2 or my wireless LAN at home.
kimble
you are a star! works perfectly
mikey mike
Same problem but with Blueyonder?
Hi All,
Im having a similar problem with my Exec and outgoing mail via GPRS/3G and smtp.blueyonder.co.uk. I get "Invalid message recipients". however if i send a message to my own email address at blueyonder it is sent ok. also if i send via wifi its ok. If i send the message using my SPV C500 via GPRS it sends OK. All the settings are the same.
I wonder if its a 3G/UTMS problem? unable to get just GPRS coverage (I dont belive im saying this).
I hope this dose not mean another Hard reset.
Regards
Premo
Kimble: Thanks for an awesome post! 8)
[EDIT: I am using my own Exchange server, so it doesn't matter to me, but I can use the info to help others, so thank you.]
Kimble, you star. i had the same problem but it's working now.
I note that SSL can't be turned on. Does this not concern anyone else?
I am wondering whether push email is functioning through wifi on the prophet? I have wifi coverage over my city, and would prefer it then getting billed for GPRS...
Push Email client from Microsoft will not work over WiFi, it is meant to generate business for mobile providers
But Siemens and other mail server solutions companies offer push email over WiFi for WiFi Providers - but I think no one is offering it yet.
Note: Be carefull with push email over GRPS. Depending on individual settings this can generate a lot of traffic without downloading a single email. One engineer told me about 15 megs traffic just for polling the Exchange server, without downloading a single email. Of course you can work out conservative settings, but better get a GPRS or UMTS data flat...25 euros here in Germany (www.base.de)
Are you 100% sure of this?
Microsoft's implimentation of Push e-mail uses HTTP(S) so therefore should not be limited to the transport unless the implimentation is restricted on the device in some way?
All the information I have totally contradicts your statement, can you please justify it can as I fear it is absolutely incorrect.
Dear, I don´t have to "justify" anything. Do your own research, ask Microsoft MSDN like I did, and then write about it. Enjoy.
PS: The original question was - as I understood it: Can MS push email client for Mobile 5 work over WiFi.
Why you do not use POP3/SMTP or IMAP through WiFi ?
Thanks guys
Thanks Lucas, I think that pretty much answers my question.
Cheers.
You can setup a schedule like i did in activesync to poll email over wifi every 5 min and disable push.
If you want to use gprs, then just change schedule to sync as new items arrive and enable push in comm manager
What happens when out of wifi range?
Jamichy, what happens if you go out of wifi range with your settings? Do you get an error message or something you then need to respond to each time you are out of range?
Usually, activesync will try to sync, but does not generate any notifications. If I launch activesync, it shows me the time of last sync with exchange server on top line.
If i leave push settings on, and connect to wlan, Activesync Generates an "Attention Required:To syncronise you need to have a cellular network connection" message...
So when I'm at home or work, i disable push, and on the road i keep push enabled. BTW, Direct push can work using both GPRS web and wap settings
I didndt change any settings and have went over the settings over and over and they are all the same. One of my email adresses wont send out (but can receive ) emails. When I hit the send/receive button it sais
"Messages cannot be downloaded to your mobile device. Make sure you are connected to the internet and that your email accnt settings are corrent. Then try to download messages again"
I even tried to delete the account and then recreate it by doing the setup again.....this is the only account that wont send emails.... it's a IMAP aol account...please help
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Are you connected via WiFi to your own internet gateway at home, or are you connected via GPRS?
via GPRS/EDGE
Try an alternative smtp server for your outgoing mail and see if that makes a difference.
does anyone know any alternative smtp server for aol? Im currently using smtp.aol.com thanks in advance
anyone? please help...cant send emails for a week now.
bump..i've seen a few people lost on howard forums that this has been an issue with aol smtp servers...can anyone confirm this?
i'm having the same problem with sending emails
I'm having the same problem - In fact, I have the same problem when using WiFi on my home network, while my home computer using Outlook (with the same settings) running on the SAME WiFi network connects to AOL's SMTP just fine.
I'm stumped.
I recently tried to install Sprint Mobile Email on my Mogul to have it push email from my desktop Outlook program like the old Business Connection software did. I installed the desktop client and got it set up but when I try to register the device itself, it gives me an error. "Error S7122: Cannot connect to the server. Please check your connection and try again."
Anybody got a clue how to fix this? I can tell you that after 7 hours (yes, 7 hours) on the phone with 6 different people on 2 days, Sprint has no clue at all.
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I recently tried to install Sprint Mobile Email on my Mogul to have it push email from my desktop Outlook program like the old Business Connection software did. I installed the desktop client and got it set up but when I try to register the device itself, it gives me an error. "Error S7122: Cannot connect to the server. Please check your connection and try again."
Anybody got a clue how to fix this? I can tell you that after 7 hours (yes, 7 hours) on the phone with 6 different people on 2 days, Sprint has no clue at all.[/QUOTE
Are you trying to get your business email from your outlook or are you just trying to get emails from other accounts pushed onto your phone like hotmail does?
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I'm trying to push email from my home computer's Outlook application which is hooked up to a POP3 account. I used to be able to do this with Sprint's Business Connection which has a desktop client that interacts with Outlook to push email to the Mogul.
This is the way the new Sprint Mobile Email client is supposed to work too but it doesn't.
I just set up the Mobile email settings on my Mogul to access my POP3 directly and it worked smoothly. No desktop app, no funny settings. Configred my POP and SMTP servers and it was done. Created an account called POP in poutlook and it pushes from my webmail server just fine.
One thing I do have on my desktop Outlook is to leave a copy of the mail on the server so it doesn't pull it before Sprint pushes.