Has anyone realised that the HTC Universal is not as fast you expected? I've tweaked the registry and done all the optimisations, but my HTC Universal can get sluggish sometimes.
I bought a Dopod 900, and I am using the latest Dopod 900 ROM. Made some Extended ROM modifications, which only involved removing the extra telcos settings from my phone.
Let's see what I have installed in my ROM:
Pocket Breeze + Contact Breeze
Resco Explorer (w/ FTP Client and Registry Editor)
Total Commander
Pocket Informant
Pocket Music
Pocket Hack
Pocket Mechanic
ClearVue Office Suite
Photo Contacts
Now for my other programs in the SD card:
TCPMP Player
SPB Benchmark
My Registry Tweaks:
Upped the Glych Cache to 32MB (limit = 32768)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\
Speeded up the Start Menu Animation (AniType = 1)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GWE\Menu\
Increased Font Cache to 16MB (CS = 16384)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Systems\GDI\SYSFNT
Increased Storage Cache to 16MB (CacheSize = 16384)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Systems\StorageManager
After soft reset, my free ROM is 19MB and free RAM is usually 20-25MB. I only have the Pocket/Contact Breeze Today plug-in on my Today screen.
However, after all the tweaks my Dopod 900 is still not as fast as I expect it to be. Just to quantify "fast" I mean no lag or little lag (less than 2 sec) when open programs and stuff.
I ran SPB benchmark on my clean hard-resetted Dopod 900 and the CPU Index was around 1000+ while the Graphics Index was only 200+
I did a search and found a SPB benchmark for a Dopod 900 from some Chinese review. The CPU index was around 1300+ and Graphics Index was around 200+
My CPU index seems to be 20% slower than the reviewer's result. Is something wrong with my set?
And is there something wrong with Dopod 900 Graphic Drivers? A score of 200+ on Graphics Index is pathetic especially when you consider that the Eten M600 and even the Dopod 838 (HTC Wizard) can achieve 2800+ on Graphics Index.
If anyone has SPB benchmarks results to share of their own HTC universal, please share with us.
I am no expert. I am a newbie to Pocket PCs, but one thing I've learned, as long as you minimize installing applications in the main memory, you can speed up your universal.
You can install Total Commander to your SD Card too. I have that in my SD Card and it works just fine.
cktlcmd said:
I am no expert. I am a newbie to Pocket PCs, but one thing I've learned, as long as you minimize installing applications in the main memory, you can speed up your universal.
You can install Total Commander to your SD Card too. I have that in my SD Card and it works just fine.
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I thought it was the other way round. WM5 PPC access ROM faster than SD Card right? So my installing my core apps into ROM, it should run faster.
RE
I think you should sell your Dopod 900 because you'll be vey disappointed for the simple reason that your expectation of less than 2sec opening for each and every application will never be realized
the most of registru hacks you applied speed up the display but decrise program memory. my expirience says: more program memory - faster device. I get rid of EVERYTHING I don't relly need and my wizard starts with ~27mb of program memory and I love it!
mine is fast, starts up with 30meg.
i think you have amped up your registry tweaks to total overkill. wind em back to the recommendations.
i also believe your pocket breeze and contact breeze are slowing it down, what happens when you remove from today and soft reset.
i can only assume you have done the really obvious, like removed the antivirus software, disabled error reporting, and disabled auto beams.
what is in your startup?
do you have applications on the today screen access the SD card? do you have sd card memory readers on the today screen? are you running any close features such as magic button etc
is activesync auto running in the background?
i have SPB PP, SPB Diary, SPB Backup, SPB GPRS, SPB Weather, all running on startup as today plug ins and my device is acceptable (generally sub 2 - 3 seconds application launch and screen rotation), but if I switch them all off, everything is instantaneous. I also have MSVC running on startup with the SPB stuff. On boot up, RAM is 25mb instead of 30mb.
also, do you have a large PIM file from synchronising contacts and calendar? mine was 5mb and slow. by controlling what I was syncing, namely calendars, and only 100 contacts, it is down to 1mb, this had a big impact.
Also, there is a big trick, if you dont use video calls, disable it. its on these forums, or can be done via hard reset and not install the cab. there is a registry to disable it. this will consume 30 meg.
Yes, this is all discussed elsewhere. Ensure you haven't installed the extended cab as far as possible, and indicate if you're using the extended rom dialler skin, which is a considerable drain.
Is the bench marking app reliable? I know Buzz was working on some lightweight roms and it'll be interesting for us to benchmark our different flavours.
V
The simplest way to make your device speed up by almost 40% is to prevent the Ext.Rom from installing. All you need to do is first hard-reset your device and when during the process of windows setup, when you come to the operator customisation screen, just soft-reset. This will prevent your device from installing any of the carrier customisation files on the Ext.Rom.
Try it, you won't regret it one bit.
vijay555 said:
and indicate if you're using the extended rom dialler skin, which is a considerable drain.
V
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Can you please post a screen shot of what our phone skin should look like? I know I used corporate mode on O2's ROM, does this ensure that I did not let any of the Ext ROM to install?
I also found the thread that discusses about the phone skin. Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40342
Are you referring to this registry tweak to correct the phone skin?
To set or remove the operator phone skin
The setting is at 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin'
The 'Enabled' DWORD value can be set to '1' to show the operator skin or '0' to show the default skin
For example, to show the default skin
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled = 0
I don't have my phone and facilities infront of me to take screenshots, so am posting some rubbish from my site. But basically, WITH the extended rom specific skin, your VGA phone looks like this:
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Without the ext rom skin (this is the pin entry screen, but it's similar but less screwed up):
The without skin is much much faster.
I've had an idea about how to re-skin the phone hopefully in a light weight manner, but haven't had a second to play with the idea. When I get some time, hopefully next week, I'll play with a proof of concept.
V
But Vijay, doesn't that mean that you lose the ability to make video calls?
wouldn't know, no one ever wants to see my face!
Generally I think it does, but I think the more complete thread posted above contains some details about how to re-enable it. There's also posts somewhere on how to re-enable the terrible intellidialer.
V
Thanks very much Vijay. I'll try it too. Since I'm in the US, we don't have video calls yet, I think.
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After a soft reset, only the auto start stuff active (like MagicButton), I have 15.88MB Program in use.
This seems like a lot to me, especially when the WM2003 Emulator with lots of apps only has 11.5MB in use.
1. Is this typical of the Magician? How much Program memory is yours using after a soft reset?
2. Can anyone advise how I find out what this memory is doing
Comments advises appreciated, thanks, Dave
9.68 in use
For monitoring your system, use Memmaid program! It is very handy and have many functions like memory cleaning, startup managing, memory settings, apps manager etc.
and another thing you must know: if you don't let the extended rom to install, you will have about 30 mb program memory and 10 mb storage!!! (adjusting with slider)
My program memory is about 19MB in use after soft reset
Around 14MB with startup of sbp pocket plus, airscanner firewall, vgs mail, f-secure mobile anti-virus, ae button plus & vjokbutt.
Cheers, M
I've been running most of the day and I've got around 18.55mb. Could probably squeeze a bit more out of that, but I generally keep my installation quite clean.
I'm running AEButtonPlus, MultiIe, FileDlgChanger, Program Menu, SmallMenu, VJToggleToday, VJAccioPhone and VJOkButt.
TodayPlugins: PhoneAlarm, VJAudioNotes, Alarm Today, Notes Today, SPB Weather, VJQOTD, VJTodaySpacer and Claunch.
If I'm feeling particularly thrifty and use VJOkButt in Phone Close mode, I can get 21.57mb. But that's just for special occassions, I almost never have memory problems, and I almost never have memory problems. :roll:
I've been doing some work on the Universal of late, and think there's methods of getting quite a bit more performance out of WM2003 and Wm5. Will investigate and post findings as they come.
Oltp: Re - VJOkButt. How are you finding it? Any problems? Pm or post in the other thread if you find any. I haven't done any programming for a day (!) so I still have to make the latest round of updates.
V
Hi
After soft rest I have 21.55 Mb available.
I running in the backgraound this software:
Magic Buttom, Photo Contact pro, PhoneAlarm, AlarmToday, WorldMate, Time Sync, psShut, Redial, Battery Monitor, Storeaway Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Regards
Gigino
I have 13.2 MB in use after SoftReset.
Running:
Wisbar +Adv desktop
voicecommand
Pocket Hack Master
VJToggletoday (go vijay555)
8)
Jewcookie: that seems a bit low. Just for laffs, could you give us a reading before and after the heavy weights, ie before and after wisbar/WAD, and likewise voice command?
I've been compelled to start playing with Voice Command for some developments/hacks I'm doing for the Universal, and I realised how much I missed the sexy voice (!). But it's quite a big install.
PS Apologies for the slow ToggleToday update. I got distracted by a very cool hack I'm working on, kind of related, but which might come some time after the "basic" ToggleToday. You've never seen anything like it :wink:
V
Oh come on VJ,
Give us some more details pls pls pls pls pls .... pls
btw forgot I'm running dktoday & spb weather as well
oltp, I've got to tweak one or two things and then I'll try to send you a screenshot (or a movie :wink.
V
vijay555 said:
Jewcookie: that seems a bit low.
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Oeps.. i checked it at wisbar memory meter :lol: but thats free memory.
How about this..
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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It's even lower! How do you find performance? Everything smooth enough?
V
vijay555 said:
It's even lower! How do you find performance? Everything smooth enough?
V
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Yeah, everything is smooth, i even use pocket hack master to lower the speed to 312 Mhz... And still its smooth dude.
Jewcookie: Good good. Will give wisbar a go some time.
V
I can make a movie with my cam if you want. You can see my smoothness
VJ, looking forward to it.
As for performance, no fancy screenshot yet, I'm running with storage 8.63MB & program 26.48MB in use. Have an enlarged cache & PIE soups up a lot. But must say it still goes as fast/slow as just after the reset
Running: AEButtonPlus, CardExport, GPSGate, SPB Pocket Plus, Cyberon Voicedial
TodayPlugins: PhoneAlarm, SPB Pocket Plus, PocketBreeze, Contact Breeze, WeatherPanel.
Free: 14.47MB (Storage) + 20.39 MB (Program) = 35MB.
In case I need to free more resource (TomTom + IGuidance + TCPMP player when I am driving), I will run NoPlugins Today to disable all Today Plugins.
Storage = 24.70; Program = 12.25 (in use after soft reset).
Today items:
PhoneAlarm
Calendar+
QuickTasks
IndiBar
WeatherPanel
PocketMusic
'Running in storage memory':
Weather Panel
MortSaver
Sprite Backup
MS VB Runtime
Pocket RSS
ThemeMaster
Bluetooth Patch
PocketHackmaster
Remote Keyboard
TomTom
Abidia Wireless
WisBar Adv
IndiBar
PHM Powertoys
Card Export
Pocket Informant
Resco Explorer
PocketMusic
Engineering Calc.
Adobe Reader 2.0
Intellidialer
PocketLookout
PhoneAlarm
Pocket TV Listings
MS SQLCE 2.0
Checkpoint 5.0
Calendar+
QuickTasks
Probably a few other things too; could do with more memory I think!
Hi!
Main memory:
Storage 13,14 MB (5,86 MB in use), Program 44,27 MB (12,67 in use).
Internal storage:
26,72 MB (22,16 MB in use)
I have applied the Big Storage hack, and have moved as many dll's to storage as possible, and installed almost every program to storage.
The following programs are installed:
Spb Pocket Plus 3.0
Spb GPRS monitor
Spb Diary
Spb Extended Theme Pack
CAB installer
Check Notifications
MemMaid
Outlook Quick Clean Up Addin
Sprite Backup
Where is my RAM
PhoneAlarm
ScreenGuard
AE Button plus
ArcSoft MMS
Scandinavian keyboard
OperatorConfig (Norway)
Resco Explorer (with registry addin)
Phone Pad
Smart Dialing
vCard
VisualGPS
TomTom 5.21
eWallet
vxUtils
PhonePad skin Reflex Graphite
Resco Sudoku
Spb Arkaball
PK
Hi all
I've found several bugs with this great app and my JasJar updated to last ROM.
After installing Resco File Explorer 5.35 on my SD card it happens that, if I close and start again Resco File Explorer, the RecBin icon desappears from tree structure. It seems also that its functionality is missing. In my SD there's still a folder named Recycled, but if I remove a file it doesn't go into that folder neither RecBin icon appears in tree structure.
But this is the less I found. Infact the whole app runs partially. The botom menu bar is loaded partially, as you can see in my screenshot posted below:
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
This should be the correct functionality:
Did anybody experience this? Any Solution?
The top one is WM5 the bottom is WM2003SE. Nothing wrong there....
Edit: Oops....OR NOT. LOL
No clue why it's like that mate, but you can still access it all from Menu button.
Uhm...it's not quite this way. From menu I can't delate files and to do it I have to tap and hold over the file to manage a pop up menu and tap delate option. In my opinion it seems to be a bug...
:roll:
It's not a bug. In "options" there's a setting to "Use WM5 softkeys" (or something similar). Untick that and you'll have the old WM2003 bottom bar that you want. I prefer the WM5 style myself though....
As for the recycle bin, go to your phone's root directory, then go up one level, and you can access your Recycle bin. the "~Recycle Bin" folders aren't where you're supposed to access your trashed items.
ThX so much!!!
...even if I am no sure that RecBin issue is solved...
with the recycle bin, i have lost mine a couple of times, reinstalling the app brings it back to correct functionality.
i guess recycle bin problems are caused by installing resco explorer on sd-card. some applications loose their connection to files on sd-card when wm5 goes into sleep mode. have no idea wether this is a wm5 bug or an application bug. so far i am going to install resco explorer into main memory as long as this issue is not fixed. i had that loosing recycle bin problems several times and it always happens when you do not need it
regards
peter
i'm the same, i install only mission critical applicaitons to main memory, and this is the first application installed at all times, no matter what.
I always install all apps to main memory, wtf is the point in having it if you just try to make the freespace as large as possible all the time???
So far I have installed,
SBSH Pocket Breeze
SBSH Contact Breeze
SBSH iLauncher
SBSH Pocket Weather
SOTI Pocket Controller
TomTom 5.21
Wizbar Advance 2
eWallet
Opera
Resco Explorer
TCPMP
All the latest versions, all into main memory and it flies with most apps coated in nice VGA Skins I have 15mb free Storage Memory.
The only thing i use my SD for is data, and maybe the odd large game like AirIslands, which consumes 23mb.
Some data files i do keep on the phone, like the wallet file for eWallet.
All this based on the new rom and it's still faster than the previous rom.
Carn Out
Ah, ok. I'm another one who always installs Explorer as my first program, and I install it into main memory too, so I've never seen the recycle bin disappear. Hopefully now that you've installed it to Main Memory too, those problems are a thing of the past!
And in answer to Carnivor, I install all of my apps (except those with today plugins) to the Storage card for a couple of reasons.....
In most cases, after a hard reset, all you need to do to get your programs running again is create shortcuts to your .exe files (if they were stored on the SD card) rather than re-installing everything from cab files. That makes a hard reset a bit more bearable.
Also, and more importantly, my "pim.vol" and "cemail.vol" files are getting absolutely enormous and I need the space. There's probably a way of moving these files to the SD card, but I haven't bothered looking yet (although I may have to if their sizes keep spiralling upwards)
hey carnivor
next sunday you have to spend a lot of money..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
just one question
So far I have installed,
SBSH Pocket Breeze
SBSH Contact Breeze
SBSH iLauncher
SBSH Pocket Weather
SOTI Pocket Controller
TomTom 5.21
Wizbar Advance 2
eWallet
Opera
Resco Explorer
TCPMP
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Don't you have installed too many program in your universal ?
i know that wisbar slow down the universal a lot
also sbsh product are not "light"
i think is too much for universal hardware...or not ??
I'm currently using a slightly battered Jam as a second phone, and it's quite depressing to see how that phone is so much quicker than the JasJar, even after the latest ROM upgrades. Still. I have a similar list of software installed to Carnivor, and it's not too bad. It's perfectly usable, just a bit annoying when you're in a hurry...
Not really an issue, i only have 1 today plugin, pocket breeze, all the rest of the sbsh stuff is accessed within that, using custom today plugin options, (the weather and ilauncher).
the latest wisbar is vastly improved on speed, but i did turn alot of the options off, they waste ram and i just wouldnt use them, like its own start menu, i dont like it, i just use the windows one, so its turned off,
you can tweak pocket breeze like that aswell, ie turn of the unread mail counters and turn off the expand/collapse etc
Whats happening next sunday????
It's just a joke
from your attached jpg
next sunday...
payment Council Tax 114
payment Leon 200.98
payment Life Insurance 15.97
payment Projector 22.96
hey Carnivor you have to put an allarm on your pocket Breeze :lol: :lol:
ciao
aha now i get yer, DOH
Ok, my wizard is running at stock speeds (no overclocking) cause i am currently trying to get it running as I want it to before I start trying to overclock the nuts off it. Problem I have is that after a while it starts running like a dog and no matter what processes I kill it will just not get back to its post soft-reset sprightly nature.
In my startup folder I have
CapNotify
CheckAutoRun
GPRSNotify (which is somehting to do with SPB GPRS monitor I think)
sddaemon (smart dial daemon from what I read on these forums
Services
I have already disabled
Init_tray
poutlook
Theme refresh (which kept changing my desktop back, grrr)
WifiInit
Has anyone got any idea what makes it run so slowly?
Anyone know how to stop pMSNServer from running itself in the background all the sodding time?
Or how to stop ActiveSync loading in the background when it has been nowhere near a USB cable?
Anyone know how to get programs to actually close when you hit the [X] and not have to use task manager to kill the process? (Free options appreciated, I didnt really like pocket plus).
Cheers for any help you can offer.
Yeah
Remove Pocket MSN from TODAY
Regards,
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jeasbe said:
Yeah
Remove Pocket MSN from TODAY
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Already done as I have absolutley no intention of using it. Have
Date
Messaging
Tasks
DKToday
Calender
Device Lock
running on my today screen.
Have you performed the WM5 registry tweaks? These are documented here
An easy way is to install mokski's two tweak cabs.
As for the x closing apps you can use wclose which I posted here I also use smartskey, a quite necessary lil app!
Hope I was of some help.
Cheers. Just disabled the file system cache (which I dont remember enabling) and will see how it works. If it doesn't work, I shall be re-enabling it and boosting the amount available.
Also disabled the phone skin. Does this work on a wizard? Or is it's running slightly faster the fact that I have just restarted? Or maybe it's just my imagination?
Thanks for wclose, should make life a little easier. Shall look into smartskey afterwards.
jeasbe said:
Yeah Remove Pocket MSN from TODAY
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This doesn't stop pMSNServer.exe from running. That was the first thing I did (unchecked it), and I even removed the option from the registry branch for Today.
rubbercow said:
jeasbe said:
Yeah Remove Pocket MSN from TODAY
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This doesn't stop pMSNServer.exe from running. That was the first thing I did (unchecked it), and I even removed the option from the registry branch for Today.
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Ditto. Seems to be tied into Poutlook, so as long as I dont read my SMS messages it seems to be ok.
And disabling the skin on the phone app seems to have been the biggest improvement so far.....
Cavey.co.uk said:
Or how to stop ActiveSync loading in the background when it has been nowhere near a USB cable?
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Activesync fix
In Active Sync on your device, go to menu-Configure server. Then put in a fake server address and leave all other settings as they are. tap next untill you come to the screen that asks which items you want to sync. uncheck all checkboxes that indicate which items are synced with the Exchange Server and finish the configuration. Then go to menu-schedule and set the sync options both to manual. Now Active Sync will not start automatically to try to make contact with an Exchange Server, which is the cause of the problem.
How do you mean 'disable phone skin' ? and what is the visual effect?
I have a tmobile mda, and when I did disable phone skin it got rid of this ugly pink dial pad when I would try to use the phone as a phone. It also disabled smart dial which was good because smart dial would call people when i was already on the phone because my ear would accidentally push buttons.
From this -
Dr Puttingham said:
Have you performed the WM5 registry tweaks? These are documented here
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i got this -
Remove operator skin from Phone app
If your device's Phone app is skinned, you can remove by setting:
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Similarly, you can restore it with:
HKLM\Security\Phone\Skin\Enabled = 1 (DWORD decimal)
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And as bendog says, it removes the autodial features so whenever you push a button it doesnt go through your phone book trying to match a number (which is REALLY annoying when you are trying to use the "Press 1 to buy a ticket" style systems).
Otherwise, it is still kind of blue, just a LOT less laggy.
Phone still seems to end up running like a bit slow though (dont know if that is just a general slow down due to disabling the file system cache) despite me having over 20Mb of Program memory free still. Killing pMSNServer and poutlook when they are running in the background helps.
Current background tasks are....
connmgr* - This and cprog do the actual phone bit, dont think you should want to kill them.
cprog* - Phone GUI maybe?
device*
filesys**
GPRSNotify - SPB GPRSMonitor software related
gwes**
mstli*
NK*
sddaemon*
services*
shell32*
srvtrust*
Things with a * are in /windows. All are .exe files. Those with a ** are .exe files in /windows with a .exe.0409 file also present... no idea what those are.
Also, poutlook and pmsnserver are in windows and are not "required", so seems I cant use that as a test of whether the process is "required"/"preferred".
I think my problem with the blasted pmsnserver stems from me using my hotmail msn account to log into MSN messenger (which promptly downloaded the hotmail into poutlook). Am gonna have to change my msn account to a new MSN address and see if I can remove the hotmail folder.... am sure I have seen a thread on it on here somewhere....
/me finds option to download hotmail automatically..... and disables it
Hmmmm... maybe that will solve that problem.
I use smartskey as well - a beaut of an app, very usefull.
If you want to determine what is consuming the most memory, you could try to install ITaskMgr, which shows CPU Load, Memory Load, and running tasks and processes as well as how much memory they consume each.
Very handy to spot those applications that consume a lot or have memory leaks the longer they are used.
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
Hello,
I own a Qtek S200 and I have loaded it with every possible ROM without solving my problem. The problem is a very strong memory leak.
After a reset I have something like 17 mb free. At the end of the day I end up with around 5 Mb and here we go for another reset.
I am using SPB Pocket Plus so every task I start is completely closed when I am done with it.
Does anybody have the same problem? Is there any solution?
Thanks
xtrips - great topic title! A+ for effort
You'll have to detail what software you've got installed, and for your own benefit, try hard resetting and running the device without any software installed to confirm the location of the leak. Frankly advice is going to be - hard reset, re-install one app at a time and run it for a while, until you find the one that leaks.
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Hi, I'm having the same kind of problems, never got time to test and check if it's software or OS related..
Need help!
Hi,
I just want to know how much RAM do you have left after a soft reset and if it holds an acceptable amount of free ram in the long run.
I have tried every available ROM on my S200 and I usually run the following softwares:
- SPB diary, weather, time, insight
- Wisbar Advanced
Well after soft reset I have something like 18 Mb free but after an hour it gets to 10. The morning after I only have 6 or 5. At this point it is useless to try to run anything. It just freezes.
I usually do at least 2 or 3 soft resets a day.
I am sick of it and I would like to know if anybody shares the same experience?
Thanks
Ditto here too, a memory leak of some sort. Installed SKs soft to 'get back' the RAM which just sends hibernate calls to running soft and has them free up what RAM they have accumulated thus far. I also found that at the end of the day my filesys.exe, gwes.exe and my shell32.exe have trippled or even quadruppled in size and anything I try to free up the RAM is futile - soft reset gets it back to around 18MB. By the way I don't have any SPB Software installed either, it probably isn't any faulty soft, I am thinking that it has to do with these ROMs that we flash with. When the original QTEK ROM was installed the RAM at boot was already at 18 - 20MB and now with 2.20.7.34 it starts with 2.2MB and then jumps back to +/- 18MB after about 10 seconds or so... something in there is clanking around somewhere but I am not a mechanic.
Just my input, I would like to not have to do 2 or 3 reboots per day too...
Hi there, just found that loaded app's dlls won't be unloaded, even if you use a task manager to really close the apps. That seems intended by design, it's not a memory leak (as they won't be loaded again the next time you start that app).
So.... if you use few apps, either intensively or not, you won't have to restart your ppc all the time. BUT if you use many (many) apps, even if you only launch them once per day, you may have to reboot everyday once your memory will be completely filled with those dlls. EVERYTHING uses dlls (and they have not much in common), including creating a new contact, new task, viewing your calendar, launching a settings applet, etc.
i have got the same problem, using AKU 2.3 ROM, which ROM are you guys using? And what today plugins have you got?
I have:
luncher
spb diary 2.2.1
ptravelalarm 2.7 beta
Don't bother....
uccoffee said:
i have got the same problem, using AKU 2.3 ROM, which ROM are you guys using? And what today plugins have you got?
I have:
luncher
spb diary 2.2.1
ptravelalarm 2.7 beta
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I've been evolving around the same set apps loaded in my PDA from the beginning, on the other hand I tried 'almost' all the AKU's around and i can tell you that:
- only when I tried AKU's 3.x or WM6, and only then, I could clearly notice a serious improvement in memory management.
I was always blaming the software I was installing but i ran many tests including running my PDA with the OS only, not even loading Extended ROM stuff. Well my S200 always behaved badly.
The problem is these AKU's are still very buggy and i had to reverse back to the release Qtek version 2.2 os.
It's the worse for memory management (i wake up sometimes wit only 2.3 mb memory lesft to use!) but it still is the most stable and all features works.
That's all.
has anyone thought of a way around this? or a way to increase RAM for that matter? i've been using PocketIE and after 3 or more additional windows via spb pocketplus, the prophet slows down drastically or worse it hangs when i check the RAM it's already critically low.. i tried rebooting the prophet and running only PocketIE again through GPRS (3 windows again) still the same thing.. slows or hangs.. any workarounds here? BTW im using iMate ROM 2.13.9.23WWE if it helps.. RAM starts up at 18MB..
Hi, having same problems here with ram. Maybe we could just stop some processes we don't use form start up. For instance
Input method; i just use kboard, not handtype or phonepad
Dictionary
MMS
GPRS
Speedialing...
The question; HOW TO!?
Maybe you could try the little proggie OxiosMemory to get rid of the trash without having to soft-reset. Can be found typing OxiosMemory in Google.
Hmmm, my TD2 only seems to have 183MB of Program memory. The official specs say "288MB RAM", the same as the Touch Pro, but I'm sure my TP had more Program Memory available than the TD2 has.
It tends to run at 77% of Memory used, whereas the TP ran at around 48%. Maybe TF3D2 takes up more RAM.
Any comments?
I agree as well...I am not sure what is going on here??
I got mine in today and it says 288MB Ram. and all day it's been at about %5o memory usage or below. Been messing around with it alot.
where does it say 288MB? could you post a screen shot please?
mine is reporting 183mb as well shouldnt it be 288? also the storage says 299mb mind you this is just via the task manager so might not be showing it all?
mine says
Storage total = 298
Program total = 183
OldOlson said:
where does it say 288MB? could you post a screen shot please?
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Give me till this afternoon.... It is almost 9am here... I need to find an app for takin a screen shot and post it up when I can.
If you're referring to Device Information then mine shows 288 etc... but in Taskmanager memory its 183.
I see what you are saying. Could it be that that is what is left after Windows is installed on the phone? Kinda like when you buy a mp3 player or HD or SD Card..... it may say 16GB but it actually is 15.68GB. (Just exaple not accurate numbers)
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Ah thank you for the shots, I only looked at the middle and the right location.
Sorry for this.
Low Program Memory
Does anybody has a clue why TD2 has so litle free program mem? After a whole day use I end up having 20-30 MB of free memory. I'm afraid that this will cause problems in the future if I install some more applications.
Today I have 4 application installed and all are placed on storage card.
After Reboot free program memory is 95MB av a total of 183MB. That means that 88MB is allocated upon startup. What is allocating so much memory.
I had a touch HD and allmost never went below 70MB of free program memory.
is there a memory leak somewhere ????
Strange?
Even though I have so little of program memory left starting at 70% memory allocation, I could open all preinstalld applications without exiting (note, word, ppt, IE, Opera, Mail inbox, calc, etc..., etc...) + iGO8 and strangly memory allocation is still at 80%. I should not complain as it doesn't seem to distrupt me from what I want to do. It is maybe like vista caching dll's and thats is maybe why we feel that TD2 is much faster then Touch HD.
Hi Guys
Ive realized too a huge use of RAM during the day,
But seen that Opera is running the hole time (or it seems so).
coz the opera open Instantly, maybe a push internet function.
When i close opera with the x, it seems to close, but when u
click again it will open very fast, too fast for me
I think ist still running in Background.
Maybe it this our memory- eater?
Mastah
Memory - Opera
if you want to exit opera you need to choose exit from the opera menu. otherwise it will run in the background.
jpfa said:
if you want to exit opera you need to choose exit from the opera menu. otherwise it will run in the background.
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thx
but ive seen that doesent change the free Ram avaiable...
Opera does run in the background even when you exit it, its even running right after a softreset. If you want to check for yourself open the windows task manager (taskmgr located in the windows folder) not the HTC one and view the processes list. Opera runs as a background process which is why it loads so fast and updates the push internet pages.
shuflie said:
Opera does run in the background...
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Thx thats what i doubt..
hello,
did anyone found why htc taskmanager only shows 183.73 program memory?
i cheked on a htc touch pro that has the same amount as td2 288 and the taskmanager there reports 200.57 program memory.
shuflie said:
Opera does run in the background even when you exit it, its even running right after a softreset. If you want to check for yourself open the windows task manager (taskmgr located in the windows folder) not the HTC one and view the processes list. Opera runs as a background process which is why it loads so fast and updates the push internet pages.
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Yeah very snappy and all but you don't fool us HTC. If Opera IS running in the background, why not have it in the HTC taskmanager? I've been trying to find a registry entry that provides for the hiding of the Opera process but haven't had no luck so far. Will get back to you if I find it.
Guys, don't worry about how much free memory you have. Memory that is free is not being used and is therefore wasted. Ideally at any given time the OS should be using as much memory as it can to speed things up. Windows Mobile has a system (as does Symbian and I suspect other mobile OS), whereby if memory is low when a process requests it, it will tell other processes to shut down (well, first it tells them to reduce their memory footprint, then to shutdown if that doesn't work). If you have 20mb free it's because lots of programs are running. The fact that they're running allows them to be switched to very fast. If you start another program that for some reason requests 30mb, Windows Mobile will free the memory for it by shutting other processes down, especially ones it knows haven't been used in a while. 'Proper' applications will be written to not have volatile state held in memory and will be able to shutdown and then start up again minutes later as if they'd never been away.