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Hello fellows,
When there's more than one "pending" icon near the clock, such as: new message arrived, phone call missed, speakerphone ON, etc. -- they are (expectedly) replaced by one icon that looks like a bubble with some lines in it.
It's great way to see there are many notifications waiting for you. When clicked, this icon displays another row with all the constituent icons.
However, with O2 1.72.187 image (without Blackberry support as I don't need it) there is a permanent O2 icon displayed. And the worst about it is -- it is treated just like it IS one of "pending notice" icons! So if you get a text message, you don't have cute envelope icon, but you have a BUBBLE already!
Previous versions allowed to move the O2 icon (centre or left), and it didn't count as notice, so "new message", or "Missed call" icon displayed as is - and only when you had let's say "new message" AND "missed call" you used to get the "composite" bubble icon. Now you can not do anything with O2 icon (it used to display connections menu), and it's just a piece of ****e sitting there for no reason.
That issue really ticks me off as I can't instantly see on the screen - what exactly has my XDA II received! The red LED on the top right corner is very helpful to indicate waiting things, and if I could somehow make that O2 icon to NOT count into pending icons -- or may be just bump up +1 the wrap limit for that place, so it would accomodate one more icon before wrapping into bubble icon, -- I'd be a happy camper.
Can it be done via registry?
Thank you for your attention!
Speach Bubble
I have the same frustration. Hoping that some wiszzard out there will be able to help
Speach Bubble
I have the same frustration. Hoping that some wiszzard out there will be able to help
Speach Bubble
I have the same frustration. Hoping that some wiszzard out there will be able to help
I looked into this thing with the O2 icon. Before the 1.72 release it used to allow selection of connection and to disconnect. It was also possible to position it elsewhere. Now all that is possible is to tap it and it brings up O2 Active. It sucks. :evil:.
I found the registry entry that specifies the position of the icon, but altering it is useless because when ever O2 Active starts it changes the registry entry back to its 'middle' position setting. Sort of defeats the object of having the data in the registry in the first place! Even deleting the entry in the registry is no good as O2 Active re-creates it! :roll:.
I dont have the O2 Active burtton no more, i deleted it from the startup folder in windows and it doesnt load it up at start up, but if you click O2 Active then it shows up and you have to restart the xda2 again to get rid of it...
Thank you guys for your involvement.
I tried to just stop O2 app; it only could be cancelled with End Task, and the bloody icon still sat there, only this time doing nothing.
Seeing not much practical use in that "newfangled" O2 icon -- I thought I'll rather give up that interface at all.
Thank you dcs, it looks like they really deliberately locked things up to make it linger -- breaking the good thing and achieving the opposite effect. The old O2 app icon was a) useful; b) moveable between left corner & centre and c) didn't spoil the notifications count, so I didn't mind.
So I just went to add/remove programs and scrapped both O2 apps.
Then had to change background, as even after reboot there was ugly leftover on the screen (I think the right part remained transparent, ugh :evil. Finally it is all working fine now and I see what comes to my XDA2.
Enough time spent, mine and yours. It better be changed in next versions, or will be permanently kept out of my XDA-2.
<rant>Whoever designed that change just drove me off using the O2 app. (Talk about luring new customers?) I sincerely hope someone from O2 reads all the bitter words in this thread, and passes them to people responsible for packaging new OS versions. I like O2 as company, but the current state of O2 app is an abomination. (Also lots of referenced to paid services from the menu, but lack of free services)
By losing this app, there is no way I can subscribe to any of O2 "value-added" services. I have TomTom for realtime voice "satnav" and AvantGo for my news -- all with no rolling subscription fees.</rant>
EastExpert said:
So I just went to add/remove programs and scrapped both O2 apps.
Then had to change background, as even after reboot there was ugly leftover on the screen (I think the right part remained transparent, ugh :evil. Finally it is all working fine now.
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Out of interest, just selecting a different theme in the Today settings clears the display problem (after uninstall) or prevents it from happening if done before uninstalling.
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Out of interest, just selecting a different theme in the Today settings clears the display problem (after uninstall) or prevents it from happening if done before uninstalling.
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May be I had selected a wrong theme, (or may be the same theme and didn't realise it), but I had to also [x] "change background" checkbox. Then I selected the bright blue Default and that was it
Edit: "Change background" has nothing to do with background problem it's actually related to adjacent Browse button.
In fact there were only 4 Today themes that had this problem, all the rest of them worked fine. I presume they were old version or something.
Glad that you managed to solve the problem. However, mine continues as I use CommonTime mNotes to interface to Lotus Notes.
So whereas I has the speach bubble permanently on the today screen (sharing the frustration that I didn't know when I had received a missed call/SMS, revceived a new note etc), I now have a permanent 'M' symbol where the speach bubble originally was.
I really just want it blank and only to come up with a speach bubble where there is something new.
How do I get rid of the 'M'?
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
OK I have spent a lonley evening searching the forum for the answer on this - if its here I am sorry i cant find it - on my (new today) xda IIi there is an o2 Icon on the task bar - it sits in the most troublesome of places and covers up parts of program headings - it must be simple enough but I canot work out how to get rid of it - I have searched for the icon file itself to get the name and search for a value in the reg but no avail - please help - someone - anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!
o2 icon
hi,
browse to the windows startup menu and it should be under connections, delete that shortcut and voila.....................
thank you somuch -
that was doing my brain in - what possesed them eh? - tell me that!!!!!
once again - thnks- it was the only thing PISSING ME OFF SO FAR
o2 icon
no probs........here 2 help
You can actually just tap and hold for a second or so on the icon, and a menu appears with a slide bar...letting you move the icon wherever you want it, that's if you want to keep it anyway.
I just cancelled the install of that all that O2 Active rubbish.
As I've stated before in here, I quite like the version that's on the 2i as it allows you to have different themes without it looking crap. Some of the features on this version are quite useful as well.
I've always wanted a screen that makes use of all aspects of the screen as it would a normal Nokia mobile, for example with battery life up the side and signal strength up the other, with some space to actually show the picture you've chosen.
I don't suppose anyone's found anything like that recently have they? I gave up looking 6 months ago!
Cheers
Anthony
New Update of O2 Connections
New Update of O2 Connections...
Forgot the thread here...
Hi,
Recently upgraded to the M5000 from the M2000 (Blue Angel)
....and I am very pleased with the phone overall but have a couple of questions - I have searched but cant seem to locate the answers:
1. Does the battery drain more when constantly connected to UMTS?
2. Where has my "New" menu gone i.e New text, appointment etc?
3. When the clam shell is closed with the screen on the inside - what are the 3 holes on the top (Looks like a speaker)
4. Why doesn't Excel or Word retain the zoom settings when saving a document?
5. Writing a text using the phone pad the auto lookup for contact names doesnt work - which makes writing one handed texts impossible!
6. Finally, sometimes the icons contained within the settings>system panel disappear and only reappear after a soft reset - any idea why?
Thanks in advance.
Matt
first of all update the rom, and in regards to the 3 holes when the shell is closed, yes its a speaker, u can actually pick up a call without opening the shell, and those 3 holes are wot u put next to your ears to hear the other person.
Looking up contacts via the keyboard works fine wiv me, i got a orange aswell.
In regards to UMTS, i think it will only drain battery if your actually using it to transfer data, once idle, shouldn't have much impact. I personally think wifi uses more battery than UTMS.
If your worried about battery life, get a double capacity battery from ebay.
In regards to the "new" menu, i dont know which one ur refering to, the ORange customisation for the Today screen?
I let someone else answer the rest.
But if you havent, then do update the rom. I had my orange received last week, and it still shipped with the rom that came out last year. Update the rom.
1. Does the battery drain more when constantly connected to UMTS?
Don't know tbh.
2. Where has my "New" menu gone i.e New text, appointment etc?
WM5 removed it in favour of the 2 "Soft-keys" at the bottom of the screen. There is a hack to replace it - do a search on this forum.
3. When the clam shell is closed with the screen on the inside - what are the 3 holes on the top (Looks like a speaker)
4. Why doesn't Excel or Word retain the zoom settings when saving a document?
no idea.
5. Writing a text using the phone pad the auto lookup for contact names doesnt work - which makes writing one handed texts impossible!
Using Contacts to find the person first is faster.
6. Finally, sometimes the icons contained within the settings>system panel disappear and only reappear after a soft reset - any idea why?
:?: :?: :?:
The new menu is now integrated into the orange app that puts a taskbar on the left side of the screen..
You enable it from the today menu
Top icon is contacts inc new
3rd icon is new MMS/SMS etc
4th Icon down is Appts
Next one is MSASUNC, notes, file explorer Calculator and options
Bottom is WWW selections
Thanks for all your help!!
I am loathe to try any unofficial upgrades to ROM until Orange release a new one (I know there is a new Business one but nothing on the customer side).
I received my phone on Thursday 6th April 1900 GMT - and as at 1625 GMT on 12th April - am finally happy with my setup - so am not trashing it just yet!!
Thanks again
Matt
I am trying to remove the bottom bar that is normally removed by deleting wifiinit.lnk and init_tray.lnk from startup...problem is they arent in startup. And when looking at the remove programs list there are no programs. Any suggestions?
Tell us what you have in windows\startup and post copies of the link files if possible, then some bright spark in the forum may be able to work it out for you :wink:
batti
dcinobar
inclose mobile
poutlook
voice command
nickcerda said:
batti
dcinobar
inclose mobile
poutlook
voice command
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Looks like all the usual links have gone now except poutlook - which many say can be deleted anyhow. They must be using another initiation method - have you checked \windows to see if you have init_tray.exe if you have try a trick i use with clear storage. Make a text file with any text in does not matter - save as init_tray.txt then rename to init_tray.exe and paste it into windows using total commander. Result init_tray.exe will not work. Works with clearstorage.exe and I get no error message. If you do get an error message replace with an exe that does nothing - I hope you get my drift :wink:
EDIT Possibly you could replace it with dcinobar.exe or inclose mobile.exe i.e. rename the exe's and then remove the startup link to the app as this app will be started instead of init_tray.exe
Actually I thought of something similar to that already, but guess what... no init_tray.lnk or .exe and no wifiinit.lnk or .exe anywhere on the device according to resco explorer search. Thank you for the great idea though. Do you or anyone else have any other ideas?
Maybe something to do with it?
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init]
"Launch99"="\\Windows\\SAPSettings.exe"
"Depend50"=hex:14,00,1E,00
"Depend20"=hex:0A,00
"Launch10"="shell.exe"
"Launch80"="srvtrust.exe"
"Depend70"=hex:1E,00
"Launch70"="connmgr.exe"
"Launch50"="shell32.exe"
"Depend61"=hex:32,00,3C,00
"Launch61"="ciphase2.exe"
"Depend21"=hex:14,00
"Launch21"="coldinit.exe"
"Depend30"=hex:15,00
"Depend60"=hex:14,00
"Launch60"="services.exe"
"Launch30"="gwes.exe"
"Launch20"="device.exe"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\init\BootVars]
"MasterKeyFileDir"="\\windows"
"DBFlags"=dword:00010000
"Flags"=dword:00000005
"RequireCertMod"=dword:00000001
"ProfileDir"="Documents and Settings"
"SystemHive"="Documents and Settings\\system.hv"
TyTN now uses services
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
Delete the registry key...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
You are awesome! Do you have a TyTn or is that for other phones also?
Just received my TyTN today.
The first thing I did was figure out how to get rid of those tray icons!
Actually, if you look at the following post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41968) you will find many hacks that are not restricted to the Universal but work on all WM5 machines, inluding the TyTN. I am using a few of the myself on my TyTN
i'm about 200 to $250 short from getting one feel free to donate! I go to This ebay posting every day and just DROOOL over it... again, donations welcome..
better yet, i got a deal! For the amount of that device with shipping which is $779 + $29.99 which comes out to $829.99, (lets just make it $830 flat) I'll throw in my working wizard which has 2 scruffs on the front(comes complete with box, i-mate warranty, headset, case.. basicly everything in the box except the extra stylus), a wizard with a damaged screen, an xbox 360 premium. (just the xbox360 itself, no power supply, no hard drive, no controller (i'll give u a couple demo discs)) AND.... a like new Sony PSP with like 3 or 4 games (i maybe played the thing 10 times since i bought it, its been nesting in its oem case for god knows how long.)
PM me if you'll take me up on that offer
Re: TyTN now uses services
Freshster said:
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
Delete the registry key...
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
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I don't think that just removing the icons removes that space that the bar takes up, does it?
:?:
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JNGold said:
I don't think that just removing the icons removes that space that the bar takes up, does it?
:?:
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Yes, removing the icons removes the tray space.
Try it.
Wiz said:
Actually, if you look at the following post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41968) you will find many hacks that are not restricted to the Universal but work on all WM5 machines, inluding the TyTN. I am using a few of the myself on my TyTN
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Very good link. Thanks Wiz!
Looking at the "HIDEWIRELESSMGRICON.cab" in that link, it shows that you can disable the Wireless Manager Icon by simply changing a single registry entry instead of deleting the whole WirelessMgr key.
To update my directions...
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
"Keep"=dword:00000000
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
I have tested these and both work perfectly.
Intellisync 7.0 and Tytn
Hi,
Since I've installed this new version of this software I've been using for a long time now each time I soft reset my device I got stuck on the windows mobile blue background. I can get pass it!!!
Now the good news is via activsync I can still connect to my device and explore it. I can also remove the software (intellisync) and this will let me regain access to my device.
The problem is I can't live without Intellisync so I end up reinstalling it evrytime.
The problem is link (I guess) to the security screen which replaces the default winm 5 one.
Questions :
1 where can I find a step-by-step description of the boot process ?
2 What is the name of the security app object ?
3 Who could help ???
Many Thanks
REMOVE bottom tray on 8525 (mobile 5)
I seen lots of articles about how to remove or turn off bottom tray, but none work. I have similar problem as this user: No intTRay of anykind is found, my startup folder contents are similar to his. I've removed the individual icons like battery, etc, but I need to get rid of the animated today icon, the the Animated Today program puts on the tray, so the tray will disappear...
any ideas?
I may be wrong but the last time I checked, the 8525(TyTN) is not a Wizard.
dharvey4651 said:
I may be wrong but the last time I checked, the 8525(TyTN) is not a Wizard.
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Yep, you are correct. The Tytn is the big brother to the Wizard, which is known as the 8125, not the 8525.
Reposted
I posted this question in the Hermes forum, which I think is the right place?
thanks,
ck
Freshster said:
Very good link. Thanks Wiz!
Looking at the "HIDEWIRELESSMGRICON.cab" in that link, it shows that you can disable the Wireless Manager Icon by simply changing a single registry entry instead of deleting the whole WirelessMgr key.
To update my directions...
The bottom tray icons can be removed by making the following registry changes...
1. To remove the Battery Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\Power]
"ShowIcon"=dword:00000000
2. To remove the Wireless Manager Icon:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr]
"Keep"=dword:00000000
3. Soft Reset
Tray Icons should now be gone.
I have tested these and both work perfectly.
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Thnx a lot man. i've been thinking that this thing is impossibla on my cingular 8525. but U proved that there are still people who know good methods on how to work w/ registry!
Brand new WIzard today. Upon insering a SIM I get a "Message From Network" notification which lists the three nearest STD codes. My own, and two other surrounding areas.
I'm reasonably sure this is not a carrier thing - does anyone recognise what it is and can tell me how to get rid of it? It's pops up whenever I switch the unit on.
Thanks.
click start > settings > phone > more
then take the tick off broadcast channels and it wont bother you anymore
Cheers boss - unfortunately, broadcast channels isn't checked.
Tried enabling & disabling but still getting the notifcation.
its a cell info message from the network, similar to what you can have on my old nokia phones, use windows explorer to explorer your wizard with your pc and go to my device>windows>startup and see if there is anything loading at startup that you dont recognise. Not sure how clued up you are on ppc's but if you list whats in the startup directory ,myself or someone else will let you know what they are doing. Also state what network you are on?
Yeah mate - I remember the cell info on the old Nokias.
Startup directory has:
CapNotify.lnk
elatepushservice.lnk
Init_Tray.lnk
poutlook.lnk
sddaemon.lnk
Cheers for the help.
Just noticed after switching it off and back on again, the date restes itself to Novermber 2005... Hmm.
kryogenik said:
Yeah mate - I remember the cell info on the old Nokias.
Startup directory has:
CapNotify.lnk
elatepushservice.lnk
Init_Tray.lnk
poutlook.lnk
sddaemon.lnk
Cheers for the help.
Just noticed after switching it off and back on again, the date restes itself to Novermber 2005... Hmm.
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I think elatepushservice.lmk is the culprit, remove elatepushservice.lnk, better cut it from there n paste it in other location for backup.
Cheers for the help - no joy I'm afraid.
CapNotify.lnk - wouldn't let me cut.
elatepushservice.lnk - No difference
Init_Tray.lnk - wouldn't let me cut.
poutlook.lnk - wouldn't let me cut.
sddaemon.lnk - No difference
Strange...
Look here for your date/clock reset problem. It is the internal battery. Look for explanation on how to replace by me (Nandaly - second page).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316622
regarding your other items. the elatepushservice is for direct push email. The other items are generally there for all Wizard OEM roms.
CapNotify is for activating an indicator on your screen when you are using your keyboard (tells you if you have Caps on or off and/or symbol on or off)
Init_Tray is to start the tray along the bottom of the screen with the power icon and comm manager indicator.
The reason you cannot cut some of them is that they are in the ROM memory of the phone. The others that you are able to cut are ones placed there during the customization of the phone (Extended ROM) added by the branding carrier of the phone (in your case TMo)