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We have content developed for mobile platforms that works succesfully in the O2 XDAii.
This consists of a flash object, which calls a javascript method, which then links back to an index page.
After some considerable time experimenting with this, it seems that links cause pocket IE to crash if there is a Flash object loaded into the page.
Does anyone have any experience of this problem, or know of a fix?
I've attached an example of what we want to do, which needs extracting, then launch bys_words.htm, and do the match upper and lower case letters game. When you hit the green arrow at the end, it should work on a desktop, and crash pocket IE on the phone.
This is a complicated example, but it seems to happen with just a simple link, and a flash object.
So far I have been a lurker in this forum reading lots of posts regarding the Universal. I have not bitten the bullet yet (i.e. ordered one) but I am tempted to do so. Before making my final decision I would appreciate some input from Universal users.
I am a heavy e-mail user and would use the Universal with a flat fee 3G subscription. My inbox is currently 1 GB and I was planning to get a large SD card and download all my e-mail to the device.
How well does Outlook function on the Universal when you have large inboxes?
How long does it take to browse and search among e-mails, seconds or minutes?
How long does it take to open attachments of normal size (i.e. 300 kB)?
Are the pocket versions of Office usable on the Universal i.e. is it feasible to browse spreadsheets and view word-files or does screen size / CPU speed or other factors prevent the Universal from being effectively used as a micro-laptop?
Can one browse regular webpages (not wappages) successfully with the available browsers or does screen size / CPU speed / lack of plug-in support etc. prevent the Universal from being practically used for regular web browsing?
Finally, is it possible to play XVID rips with "regular" size (i.e. a movie is either 700MB or 2x700MB) without dropping frames on the Universal?
I realize that my questions (and possible answers) are subjective to a large extent. However, it is your subjective opinion on the usability of the Universal that I want!
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So far I have been a lurker in this forum reading lots of posts regarding the Universal. I have not bitten the bullet yet (i.e. ordered one) but I am tempted to do so. Before making my final decision I would appreciate some input from Universal users.
I am a heavy e-mail user and would use the Universal with a flat fee 3G subscription. My inbox is currently 1 GB and I was planning to get a large SD card and download all my e-mail to the device.
How well does Outlook function on the Universal when you have large inboxes?
How long does it take to browse and search among e-mails, seconds or minutes?
How long does it take to open attachments of normal size (i.e. 300 kB)?
Are the pocket versions of Office usable on the Universal i.e. is it feasible to browse spreadsheets and view word-files or does screen size / CPU speed or other factors prevent the Universal from being effectively used as a micro-laptop?
Can one browse regular webpages (not wappages) successfully with the available browsers or does screen size / CPU speed / lack of plug-in support etc. prevent the Universal from being practically used for regular web browsing?
Finally, is it possible to play XVID rips with "regular" size (i.e. a movie is either 700MB or 2x700MB) without dropping frames on the Universal?
I realize that my questions (and possible answers) are subjective to a large extent. However, it is your subjective opinion on the usability of the Universal that I want!
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Is think, you should better bye a laptop
I already have an ultra-portable laptop, which I sit infront 10hrs / day. I thought that the Universal would make a nice compliment to my laptop for the remaining 14hrs ;-).
I have around 1300 emails in my inbox and can scroll up and down very quickly on my Universal. Pocket Outlook doesn't seem to have any search facilities though. I have Push Email configured (using the very latest o2 ROM) from Exchange 2003 and it works very well. I don't bother with attachments though so I can't comment on them.
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I have around 1300 emails in my inbox and can scroll up and down very quickly on my Universal. Pocket Outlook doesn't seem to have any search facilities though. I have Push Email configured (using the very latest o2 ROM) from Exchange 2003 and it works very well. I don't bother with attachments though so I can't comment on them.
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There is a search facility on all PPC that allows you to search through contacts, calender and messaging etc.
You can store attachments on a storage card, although the body of emails stays on the phone.
Word Mobile is OK but doesnt allow images - you just get a big X
Excel Mobile is good and allows some chart integration - doesnt offer all of the functionality that Excel XP does.
IE is good especially displayed in full screen and landscape at the smallest font size at the default view (instead of one column or desktop) Pages can sometimes take a while to appear due to the cpu chugging along - but is alot better than IE on say WM2003SE
Matt
Thanks for the input. Can you confirm the search facility on the Universal and give some details on it?
jketzetera said:
Thanks for the input. Can you confirm the search facility on the Universal and give some details on it?
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By choosing search, you are presented with the following options:
All Data
Calender
Contacts
Excel Mobile
Help
Larger than 64kb
Messaging
Notes
Outlook Mobile
Tasks
Word Mobile
.....You just enter what it is you want to find and it will find it.
A program like Total Commander (Which is freeware and a replacement for File Explorer) contains options to find files and works better for file searching and allows for searching within files.
Basically - even if WM5 doesnt do something - there will be another app sometimes free that will enhance functionality.
Matt
To answer on the Xvid issue: never tried that but I am very sure you need to rip it down to a smaller (pixel- and file-) size to view it without choking.
I've been using VGA hack for a while against Pocket IE and really like the way it renders pages. But I hate the way VGA Hack works with almost everything else.
Can VGA Hack (or similar) be applied to specific apps only? Say PIE, Word and Excel only?
Failing that, what rival browsers exist?
Opera mobile and opera mini. Never used either and will try them out, but I never use the "1 column" mode in PIE and basically want pages to be as close as possible to a VGA desktop computer. I want framed sites to render well in particular.
Tabbed browsing *would* be nice but I certainly don't care that much.
Faster page rendering would be a real bonus. A couple of sites I visit (say http://www.todayonly.co.uk ) seem to take forever in PIE.
So, what else is there? There's some Japanese browser too, iirc, but how stable is that? How good is the rendering?
Opera is definitely the one you want. Works flawlessly with VGA, automatically and intelligently scales framed pages to display nicely, and will switch to classicl desktop view at a quick click. It even allows your device to identify as a desktop computer when querried by a page.
I disagree.
Pie+ for me is the most stable and feature packed browser. Not really a browser as such but a load of extensions to Pie.
In my view Netfront 3.3 is also a good option. Specially the fact that it supports Flash which Opera doesn't.
By the way I have also tried Mini Opera and in fact am writing this post using mini opera. Give it a try
Regards
Please check out the Web Browser category ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&cat=61 ) on my blog (the later articles have also been cross-posted to the General forum here at XDA-Dev) - it answers ALL your questions. It's really woth checking it out because, based on the info there, you will be able to make an informed decision on which browser to choose.
just try opera 8.6 version it will surely solve ur problem.
I have to Second the Netfront Suggestion
I have used a number of IE addins, and I used Opera during the Beta testing process. I find the in the end I keep coming back to Netfront. I like it enought that I finally did purchase a copy. It renders well in VGA. It has a number of layout formats so you can get a desktop like experience. What I like to use is the following.
Virtual resolution: 800x600
Zoom: 75%
Rendering: Smart-Fit
I also like to set quick render. This causes the page to display in a text layout while the browser retrieves the images and other layout information. This way if you just need a link from the page, you can click it before the whole page is drawn. This can be annoying though if you are trying to read the page because as soon as the browser was retrieved everything, it redraws the whole page, inturupting your reading. For me, this has not been a problem, but Netfront is flexible enough to suit most tastes.
They do offer a short free trial. I suggest checking it out.
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OK, tried Opera for a few days and really, really liked it. However, sometimes it seems like it just doesn't respond at all. When it works, it great. When it's slow, it unusable. Basically, for features it's spot on but for responsiveness I've had to rule it out entirely.
I'm trying Netfront now and so far I'm hugely impressed. Accurate, rapid page rendering and seems to do everything it is supposed to do. I'll give it a week or so before I decide but it certainly looks like a bargain to me (under GBP£20 iirc - the price of a good sandwich)
still mostly happy with netfront,but how do you turn off the irritating way is fills the screen with the focused frame? Nice feature for 240x240 screens, but for vga it just slows me down.
xiasma said:
still mostly happy with netfront,but how do you turn off the irritating way is fills the screen with the focused frame? Nice feature for 240x240 screens, but for vga it just slows me down.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to, but you can always change the rendering mode.
To disable focus on frames navigate to "menu / tools / browser settings/ misc (tab) and uncheck box "enable smart frame operation"
This box is checked by default. With this box checked netfront fills the whole screen with a particular frame you have tapped upon.
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Update:
OK, tried Opera for a few days and really, really liked it. However, sometimes it seems like it just doesn't respond at all. When it works, it great.
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I think its bcoz ur cache is saved on ur phones memory thus try to change its cache on ur storage card so it will free up the memory & will use less resources.
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I think its bcoz ur cache is saved on ur phones memory thus try to change its cache on ur storage card so it will free up the memory & will use less resources.
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Let me disagree. It's mostly with other Web browsers (most notably, NetFront) that seem to "freeze" when writing to (comparatively) slow (say, flash ROM-based) storage.
Of course, it's worth relocating the Opera cache (see my tutorial at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=916&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ), but also make sure you only relocate it to a well-optimized card.
By the way do u know that how can i change the location of cache (PIE) on to the storage card ?
niketkumar said:
By the way do u know that how can i change the location of cache (PIE) on to the storage card ?
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Yeah. Please read for example http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,42768
I think Opera for PPC works only with an acceptable speed if you relocate the cache NOT to a faster card BUT to virtual memory card.. there is a driver which does that. I'm greatly impressed with it..
It's great, what an excelent idea being able to tilt the device to be able to scroll around a web page
Me too. I just wish this worked in all apps that have scrollable windows (ie Excel etc)
I aggree totally, maybe in time !!!
Its good, but i tend to find that its ok for a couple of minutes, but you'll change the angle that you're holding it, and the calibration would go to sh.t. And as per the other comments, needs 'other application' support.
There is a game on the iPhone called Lights Out where the object of the game is to light up or knock out all the lights in a 5x5 grid. When a square is selected that square and its four immediate neighbours, above, below, and to each side invert. There is no wraparound. The object of the game is to get all the squares black.
At the risk of revealing my age, I saw a hand held version of this game in the early 1980's.
When mastering any new programming platform, this application becomes the standard with which I start. I know the logic, so the problem merely becomes getting the thing to run under the new platform. I wrote this in 2005 while fighting my way through the very steep learning curve of Embedded C++. Previous platforms for this program have been, ZX81, BBC Micro, DOS, Windows and finally Windows Mobile. Next stop Linux!
It is an example of minimalist programming on WM. Written in Embedded C++ as a Win32 application it is targetted at ARMv4 chipsets. As such it should run on all PPC versions from Windows Mobile 2002 onwards. The menu is limited to two main items, so WM 5/6 will display it as a WM 5/6 app. Minimalist programming means it can be distributed as as a single .EXE file of a mere 9.5 Kb in size. The DLLs it calls are already on your device, there is no need for a .CAB installation.
It has 5x5, 7x7 and 9x9 grids, all are solvable.
I hope you enjoy it. It will keep you quiet but it might drive you totally nuts!
UPDATE!!! Now works with 480x800/240x400 devices, see later posts for the details.
UPDATED!! Version 1.2 released.
Changes: 11x11 grid added. It is solvable, but it took me a while to figure it out!. You may need a stylus as fingers may be a bit too awkward. For that reason, I do not intend to go to 13x13 and beyond.
The short display glitch on initial program load now fixed.
Game and drawing code optimised. (There are often better and faster ways to do things, if you take the time to look.)
UPDATED!! Version 1.3 released.
Now also runs on both Pocket PC and SmartPhone devices. Now runs on any sized screen, even those that have not been released yet! The blank screens that were reported in later posts are now a thing of the past. Here's the method, take the width and height of of the client area and size the game to 90% of smaller of the two. Why did I not think of that in the first place?
SmartPhone users:- Welcome aboard! Image attached below: The white square is the target square. Move it to the square you want to change with the D-Pad/Arrow buttons, then press 'Enter' to change it. Smartphones prior to Mobile 6.0 may not have the 'File Explorer' application. (It depends on the OEM build). In this case, use ActiveSync. Connect to your phone and drop the unzipped 5x5.exe file via the 'Explore' option into the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\ directory, and it will appear alongside Solitaire and BubbleBreaker in the games menu of your device. Smartphone 2002/2003 users need to use \Storage\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games\
Pocket PC users won't see any change, just tap the square you want to change. The program looks at which platform it is running on, and behaves accordingly.
UPDATED!! Version 1.4 released. - The Knight's Gauntlet.
Just when you thought you've mastered it, the Knight's Gauntlet is firmly thrown down. Selecting Knights from the main 5x5 menu, changes the pattern of squares that are inverted to those a knight's move away in chess, (two forward, then one to the side), as per the Knights image below. Up to 9 squares will invert on each move. As per changing the grid size, toggling the knights game on and off will restart the game.
All four grid sizes are solvable, but you are warned, it is a lot harder than the normal cross game.
It was only a small change to the game logic, and this program was all ready to go in September, but I would not release it, until I had proved to myself that it could be done. A brute force attack can be used to break the 5x5 Knight's game but as the grid gets bigger the problem grows exponentially. A quad core processor running a console C++ application, using the SSE3 PC registers (XMM) macros to play one move on the entire board in one machine instruction, was not enough.
I had to use a special version of the mobile program that could dump the state of the board and moves out to a file to be analysed by the PC later by a suite of programs that could combine boards together by the thousands. All good fun!
On and off, it has taken me three months to find the knights solutions to the 7x7, 9x9 and 11x11 games.
UPDATED!! Version 1.5 released. Now with demo mode.
For those who think it is impossible, let the demo mode show you how to do it.... But there is a slight twist........ You will be shown the same solution for each puzzle each time, but the moves are shuffled and they may also be reflected or rotated, just to confuse matters further. Shuffling the moves, rotating, or reflecting, logically, has no effect on the final result.
Happy puzzling!
18th Feb 2010 update fixes WinMo 6.5.3 Dialog box issue mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635063
23 June 2011 CE version added. Note this version is for Windows CE, ARM powered devices only, as is displayed in the last of the images below. Don't run this version on a WinMo device the display will look awful! As an extra caveat, it will only run properly if the OEM of your CE device has built the OS with components that are expected by the 'Standard' version of the SDK as used by EVC 4.0.
Any screenshot?
Thanks!
Nice little game.
Small problem
Hi,
I'm probably missing something here, but I get a white screen without anything I can actually do with it (using Omnia).
Any help?
Grief that is going to be addictive.
So simple yet so tricky at the same time.
works fine on a SQVGA (320x320) device to, and im after 1 minute angry ....
very nice; solved 5x5 - 9 clicks. going to try to crack 7x7
this is lot's of fun & a little tricky!
nice game
Does not work with my HTC Touch HD (WVGA 800x480)
I got a white screen.
stephj said:
At the risk of revealing my age, I saw a hand held version of this game in the early 1980's.
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LOL at remark above ^^
Nice little time waster you have here! Thanks!
Anybody thown their phone out the window in frustration yet?
To the members having trouble with high resolution devices, it was only written to run on 'standard' Pocket PC screens, 240x320 portrait/landscape and 240 square devices.
Sorry it doesn't work properly on larger screens. I'll have a look at it. I may have to borrow one of these later wizzo phones from someone, and find out what's going wrong, or I'll see what's in the WM6 SDK emulator.
May take a while, but I'm on it. Watch this space.
doesn't work on touch diamond 2 with 800x480?
any solution you might know?
anybody??
seems like a great hit, this game.....
tnx in advance
marcel
I have downloaded the WM 6.1.4 SDK from Microsoft's site. It includes a 800x480 device image.
The bad news is the program produces the effect mentioned above. i.e white screen, and nothing.
The good news is exactly that, the bug can be reproduced. This will allow me to step through it, figure out exactly what the hell is going wrong, and fix the code.
This may take few days to sort out, more later.
Fixed! Now works on 800x480 devices as well, in landscape or portrait. Use the zip file in the original post at the top, it has been updated with the new program.
The reason for the fault was that 800x480 devices return a bigger value for the long side of the screen when using GetClientRect();
The program did not recognise this value and could not figure out whether it was landscape, portrait or square, which fouled up the WM_PAINT code.
The code automatically centres the grid in the window, so that bit was OK.
Have fun, until a new screen format comes along.........
This little game is f***ng addicting!
Thanks a lot!
Keep up the good work!
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Hi,
I'm probably missing something here, but I get a white screen without anything I can actually do with it (using Omnia).
Any help?
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I'm using Samsung Omnia and I get the same problem when starting 5x5. What to do?
HOLLY BALLS! lol this game is addicting and hard. i am yet to beat it!! haha. great game thanks!
It is a kind of drug........
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GreenOmnia,
This program will run on 480x800 devices as marcelvanblankers above can confirm. The problem may be that you still have the old version of 5x5 active in your phone.
On a PC you can run multiple versions of Word, Excel etc. until you run out of memory. Under WM only one version of any program is allowed to run at any one time. When a program starts it looks for the same named process. If it finds it it, it activates that copy, and then kills itself. Later versions of WM may correct this, but earlier programs still run to these rules. If you load a new version of the program to your phone and have the old version still active in memory, when you run the new one you only reactivate the old one.
Listen up everybody! Think about the above paragraph. If you have understood it, that is a real WM pearl of wisdom!
To fix the problem, if your version of WM has Task Manager, use that to kill the running version of 5x5, or use Settings->System->Memory->Running Programs and then select 5x5 and end it. Delete all versions of 5x5 from your phone, then reload the new version from the top post in this thread and retry it.
If all this still doesn't work, I will post a test program to run on your device that reports the actual size of the client area window.
We'll take it from there.