I've been using VGA hack for a while against Pocket IE and really like the way it renders pages. But I hate the way VGA Hack works with almost everything else.
Can VGA Hack (or similar) be applied to specific apps only? Say PIE, Word and Excel only?
Failing that, what rival browsers exist?
Opera mobile and opera mini. Never used either and will try them out, but I never use the "1 column" mode in PIE and basically want pages to be as close as possible to a VGA desktop computer. I want framed sites to render well in particular.
Tabbed browsing *would* be nice but I certainly don't care that much.
Faster page rendering would be a real bonus. A couple of sites I visit (say http://www.todayonly.co.uk ) seem to take forever in PIE.
So, what else is there? There's some Japanese browser too, iirc, but how stable is that? How good is the rendering?
Opera is definitely the one you want. Works flawlessly with VGA, automatically and intelligently scales framed pages to display nicely, and will switch to classicl desktop view at a quick click. It even allows your device to identify as a desktop computer when querried by a page.
I disagree.
Pie+ for me is the most stable and feature packed browser. Not really a browser as such but a load of extensions to Pie.
In my view Netfront 3.3 is also a good option. Specially the fact that it supports Flash which Opera doesn't.
By the way I have also tried Mini Opera and in fact am writing this post using mini opera. Give it a try
Regards
Please check out the Web Browser category ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&cat=61 ) on my blog (the later articles have also been cross-posted to the General forum here at XDA-Dev) - it answers ALL your questions. It's really woth checking it out because, based on the info there, you will be able to make an informed decision on which browser to choose.
just try opera 8.6 version it will surely solve ur problem.
I have to Second the Netfront Suggestion
I have used a number of IE addins, and I used Opera during the Beta testing process. I find the in the end I keep coming back to Netfront. I like it enought that I finally did purchase a copy. It renders well in VGA. It has a number of layout formats so you can get a desktop like experience. What I like to use is the following.
Virtual resolution: 800x600
Zoom: 75%
Rendering: Smart-Fit
I also like to set quick render. This causes the page to display in a text layout while the browser retrieves the images and other layout information. This way if you just need a link from the page, you can click it before the whole page is drawn. This can be annoying though if you are trying to read the page because as soon as the browser was retrieved everything, it redraws the whole page, inturupting your reading. For me, this has not been a problem, but Netfront is flexible enough to suit most tastes.
They do offer a short free trial. I suggest checking it out.
Update:
OK, tried Opera for a few days and really, really liked it. However, sometimes it seems like it just doesn't respond at all. When it works, it great. When it's slow, it unusable. Basically, for features it's spot on but for responsiveness I've had to rule it out entirely.
I'm trying Netfront now and so far I'm hugely impressed. Accurate, rapid page rendering and seems to do everything it is supposed to do. I'll give it a week or so before I decide but it certainly looks like a bargain to me (under GBP£20 iirc - the price of a good sandwich)
still mostly happy with netfront,but how do you turn off the irritating way is fills the screen with the focused frame? Nice feature for 240x240 screens, but for vga it just slows me down.
xiasma said:
still mostly happy with netfront,but how do you turn off the irritating way is fills the screen with the focused frame? Nice feature for 240x240 screens, but for vga it just slows me down.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to, but you can always change the rendering mode.
To disable focus on frames navigate to "menu / tools / browser settings/ misc (tab) and uncheck box "enable smart frame operation"
This box is checked by default. With this box checked netfront fills the whole screen with a particular frame you have tapped upon.
Regards
xiasma said:
Update:
OK, tried Opera for a few days and really, really liked it. However, sometimes it seems like it just doesn't respond at all. When it works, it great.
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I think its bcoz ur cache is saved on ur phones memory thus try to change its cache on ur storage card so it will free up the memory & will use less resources.
niketkumar said:
I think its bcoz ur cache is saved on ur phones memory thus try to change its cache on ur storage card so it will free up the memory & will use less resources.
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Let me disagree. It's mostly with other Web browsers (most notably, NetFront) that seem to "freeze" when writing to (comparatively) slow (say, flash ROM-based) storage.
Of course, it's worth relocating the Opera cache (see my tutorial at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=916&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ), but also make sure you only relocate it to a well-optimized card.
By the way do u know that how can i change the location of cache (PIE) on to the storage card ?
niketkumar said:
By the way do u know that how can i change the location of cache (PIE) on to the storage card ?
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Yeah. Please read for example http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,42768
I think Opera for PPC works only with an acceptable speed if you relocate the cache NOT to a faster card BUT to virtual memory card.. there is a driver which does that. I'm greatly impressed with it..
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Real VGA mode is something I really miss from my HX4700 and WM2003SE.
Does anyone know if the guys that made these apps are working on versions for WM5?
Any way to hack the OS directly in the mean time?
The universal is already VGA - why would you run real_vga on it?
I know the Universal as VGA. So is the HX4700.
I take it you've never seen SE_VGA real VGA mode on a VGA pocket PC device before then?
It stops the pixel doubling of images in IE and makes the scroll bars/task bar much smaller.
Some people hate it as they think it makes text etc. too small. Personally, I have 20:20 vision and love the extra destop real estate it gives.
se_vga rocks on the HX, most definately a must have on a VGA... I wouldn't bother with a VGA device without it, the extra money on the outlay is only really worth it if you get the extra space. Sure the standard VGA looks a little slicker, but se_vga makes use of the vga fully... I was hoping WM5 would support real VGA, I guess that answer is no then?
Correct.
WM5's VGA support is pretty much the same as WM2003SE's. Everything looks nice but is all the same size as it would be on a QVGA screen.
sadly I have never owned a VGA PPC device
I tried a program to make my QVGA device VGA but it did something funky to my device so I removed it. This was back in WM2003 days with an iPaq 3870.
Can anyone recommend a VGA enabler for the BA ?
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Can anyone recommend a VGA enabler for the BA ?
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Heh, yeah.
It's called an HTC Universal upgrade. Just a simple upgrade to do.
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AdmiralAK said:
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Heh, yeah.
It's called an HTC Universal upgrade. Just a simple upgrade to do.
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Sadly I need GSM850
Here's a thread on everything VGA.
Good link. Thanks.
I now understand why my icons aren't displaying. Looks like I need some files from a QVGA version of WM5.
rilot said:
I know the Universal as VGA. So is the HX4700.
I take it you've never seen SE_VGA real VGA mode on a VGA pocket PC device before then?
It stops the pixel doubling of images in IE and makes the scroll bars/task bar much smaller.
Some people hate it as they think it makes text etc. too small. Personally, I have 20:20 vision and love the extra destop real estate it gives.
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I've installed this and took it away after a while. I would like to share my thoughts on product such as OzVGA.
Yes, the text is way way too small for me . I personally could not read them. The main application that I could use smaller icons and letters are internet pages. but I find that the default is already capable of displaying at a size that my eye would find too tiny. Therefore the need to make it even smaller is not there, for me.
Not only that, after installing it I had other problems including:
- My soft keyboard disappeared all together. Some other buttons within applications also have vanished. This is a serious problem. (don't know why and not techincal enough to solve the problem)
- Many icons disappeared.
- Some icons are bigger than the others
- Many applications now occupies only 1/4 of the screen, leaving 3/4 of blank space that could not be used for any other purpose whatsoever. For example, my co-pilot live vehicle navigation system now just sits in top left corner, making the screen look real ugly. Many other applications out there might be able to occupy the entire space but many won't. My music player is also another example that shrunk to 1/4 its nice original size leaving 3/4 unuseable blank space.
Although it is possible to revert to and from the original resolution, it requires soft resets. I like to have many applications open simultaneously. Internet, music, word, mail, msn chat, etc. I want some of them to use the real estate in a better way, but many I don't. It's unfortunate that I can't mix them (or perhaps there is a way that I don't know).
Would be nice if the above problems could be thoroughly thought through and resolved,
eaglesteve said:
I've installed this and took it away after a while. I would like to share my thoughts on product such as OzVGA.
Yes, the text is way way too small for me . I personally could not read them. The main application that I could use smaller icons and letters are internet pages. but I find that the default is already capable of displaying at a size that my eye would find too tiny. Therefore the need to make it even smaller is not there, for me.
Not only that, after installing it I had other problems including:
- My soft keyboard disappeared all together. Some other buttons within applications also have vanished. This is a serious problem. (don't know why and not techincal enough to solve the problem)
- Many icons disappeared.
- Some icons are bigger than the others
- Many applications now occupies only 1/4 of the screen, leaving 3/4 of blank space that could not be used for any other purpose whatsoever. For example, my co-pilot live vehicle navigation system now just sits in top left corner, making the screen look real ugly. Many other applications out there might be able to occupy the entire space but many won't. My music player is also another example that shrunk to 1/4 its nice original size leaving 3/4 unuseable blank space.
Although it is possible to revert to and from the original resolution, it requires soft resets. I like to have many applications open simultaneously. Internet, music, word, mail, msn chat, etc. I want some of them to use the real estate in a better way, but many I don't. It's unfortunate that I can't mix them (or perhaps there is a way that I don't know).
Would be nice if the above problems could be thoroughly thought through and resolved,
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I would like to give an update to this.
Instead of using ozVGA, which carries the above problem that I was not able to solve, I tried out another product called MvRTVGA. There seems to be quite a lot of improvement with the later product. No missing icons. Only a few minor annoyance due to bigger icons remaining. Almost all application (the only exception being my copilot pocket PC version 5) covers the entire screen rather than just 1/4 of it.
Overall, the balance of equation changes for me. The true VGA, without the problems that I initially experienced, does make the unit display a lot more attractive, and now I'm a convert.
What is Mvrtvga? Did a search on google and couldnt find anything
Thanks Matt
It is released and can be downloaded here
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/
Get it quick cause the old one expires June First.
Later; Lew
Uh oh... looks like they want to charge for it. Looks like they are offering a 30 day trial... :x
Everyone is tring to make a buck.
Opera is pretty good and I wouldn't really mind paying $24 :/.
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Uh oh... looks like they want to charge for it. Looks like they are offering a 30 day trial... :x
Everyone is tring to make a buck.
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Opera has always been software you have to pay for. They've just been putting out alot of new versions with free trials recently.
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Get it quick cause the old one expires June First.
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Yeah, I noticed it today. My workaround is to set 31.05 before you start Opera(beta)
man ive been using mini opera this whole time on my 8125... i guess i shoulda been using the ppc version...
man ive been using mini opera this whole time on my 8125... i guess i shoulda been using the ppc version...
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actually i think opera mini is the fastest browser i have used yet...i have them all...maybe it's because opera mini separates a whole page into several pages...
Sorry double post.
Opera Mini uses a proxy server that massivly compresses the data and photo's, as well as reformating and cutting down the stuff it thinks you wont need. Really it's for small screen mobiles.
Opera Mobile is a 'proper' browser', slower but a much richer experience. I recommend people have both.
Well I wouldn't mind paying the $25 if there weren't so many crappy bugs that weren't fixed.
I would list them but someone on another forum did the work. To quote:
"My what a huge disappointment ! What's the point of putting out Betas if they only correct half the bugs ?
I have an X50v running WM2003SE. I'm running it in hi-res VGA mode.
I've just downloaded the latest demo, and after a mere 20mins of playing here's what I've found so far:
Pros
The Courier fonts have gone.
Zoom now works properly.
Double space problem gone on keyboard.
Keyboard comes up correctly in context now.
Javascript (edited - previously read Java) pages seem to work fine.
Cons
The progress bar still covers the horizontal scroll bar.
I find the progress bar annoying, and can't see a means to turn it off.
My D-Pad won't scroll me vertically in the same manner as PIE. Instead, it operates as per the Betas and tabs you between various screen elements.
The highlight problem is still there i.e. links won't work if you've accidentally managed to highlight another link. So you have to click a blank bit of screen to de-select, then hit the link.
Flash still doesn't work.
On long pages, the information stays all corrupted at the end.
Frustrated is just not the word. This was all looking so promising. Why ignore half the bad stuff after all this time ?????????"
I can confirm this is all true.
If they could just program it so us users can configure how WE want the d-pad to scroll between selectable items and the page then I'd be happy.
The team that put together Opera Mini (the Java Midlet version) are clever enough to assign up/down for link selection and left/right for page scrolling so why can't the Opera "Larger" team give us at least that if they're not going to give us full configurability? If anyone wants to bring up the horizontal scrolling argument, don't. I always use either "Fit to screen" or "One column" mode anyway
so it doesnt support flash? not good
how does this compare to the latest Minimo?
McHale said:
how does this compare to the latest Minimo?
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Minimo is more like bloat-a-mo. Opera is much more refined.
Who really needs flash on a mobile device anyways?
Anyone else finding that 8.6 is much slower that the last version (beta) to load up?
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Anyone else finding that 8.6 is much slower that the last version (beta) to load up?
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This is the first version I have used so I can't compare, but it does take a long time in general to load up. I have added opera.exe to my exceptions list to not close when I click the close button so it is always running once loaded the first time. This works well for me.
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Anyone else finding that 8.6 is much slower that the last version (beta) to load up?
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Have you UPX'd it yet?
On a separate note: Put Opera cache files on Storage Card...
1) Close Opera.
2) Create a folder on your storage card where the cache files will go.* I chose \Storage Card\Program Files\Opera\cache4, but I don't think the folder structure or folder name matter.
3) Open \Application Data\Opera\opera.ini in a text editor.
4) In the [User Prefs] section, add the following line -> Cache Directory4=[full path to folder on storage card].
In my case my entry is Cache Directory4=\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera\cache
5) Save and close opera.ini.
6) Restart Opera. Your cache is now being written to your storage card.
Taken from -> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=140988
i tried setting up the cache to a different folder, but it did not work.
first, as you mentioned, directory name doesnt matter. so i put it in:
\Storage Card\Cache\Opera
then
\Storage Card\Cache\Opera\cache4
then
\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera\cache4
all those folders did not work. the last one i did was to changed it the same as yours, but still didnt work.
im using the latest version (cause the previous one expired on june 1).
disregard my previous post. it worked now.
my fault was, i did not set it up correctly:
Directory4=\Storage Card\Cache\Opera
it should be:
Cache Directory4=\Storage Card\Cache\Opera
thanks for this great tip!
Hey @ all,
i just tested a little around with my Advantage and 3.5G and found out that my Opera is never faster then 120Kbyte/Second... then i was wondering if this is the same on my WLAN. I ve got a 3.5 MBit DSL and tried first with Opera again 100-120 Kbyte/Second. After i tested with PIE. 450-540 Kbyte/Second...
Do i have to change some settings?
Thanks for your help
Kind Regards,
CoDeX2k
I've had a similar experience, and now use PIE over Operah. No idea why its like this!!
CoDeX2k said:
Hey @ all,
i just tested a little around with my Advantage and 3.5G and found out that my Opera is never faster then 120Kbyte/Second... then i was wondering if this is the same on my WLAN. I ve got a 3.5 MBit DSL and tried first with Opera again 100-120 Kbyte/Second. After i tested with PIE. 450-540 Kbyte/Second...
Do i have to change some settings?
Thanks for your help
Kind Regards,
CoDeX2k
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Wow, I have to try the latest Pie out. Thanks for the info.
Meant PiePlus.
aphid said:
I've had a similar experience, and now use PIE over Operah. No idea why its like this!!
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I did not do any benchmarks but I did find PIE faster. I have been using it over Opera and even Vueflo is set for PIE.
Maybe we need to tweak some settings in Opera as I do find the multiple tabs very useful.
Is there such a thing as tweaking the MTU or otherwise for individual applications on the Athena? Maybe Opera is slower because it processes the HTML differently and tries to adjust it for the screen while IE doesn't do as well of a job. Let me know if I'm wrong here.
Edit: I'm going to read through these to find out if there is anything that can be done. But I can't yet until later tonight or maybe this weekend. If you guys give it a go, let us know what you find if anything.
http://www.opera.com/support/service/customization/
its, I think Opera is definitely MUCH MUCH slower than IE. This is not just in loading itself , in fetching data, in displays, but also in accepting input from the keyboard. Opera is unable to cope with the high speed typing using TenGo software keyboard, whereas IE has no problem coping.
I'm sticking with IE from now until this problem is addressed in future version.
As per suggestions in this thread I tested PIE.
Oh my god (OMG for all you netizens) it is h o r r i b l e. It doesn't render anything correctly.
And I do not find that Opera is slower, but that could be due to the service providers crappy Edge (only ~160 kbps).
Opera renders pages quite nicely although sometimes it misses things, but overall it it is much more pleasurable to surf using Opera.
Strange, i also found Opera better, and the speed is not slower than IE as well.
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Strange, i also found Opera better, and the speed is not slower than IE as well.
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I found after changing a few settings in Opera it runs great and better than Pocket IE.
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I found after changing a few settings in Opera it runs great and better than Pocket IE.
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you mind sharing your setting? so I can test it on my DOPOD too
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you mind sharing your setting? so I can test it on my DOPOD too
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Not much but here they are:
- Menu/Windows/....defaults.
- Menu/Display/, select Load images, Fit to screen, Landscape. Go to Zoom and selectd 90%. Found that putting it on 90% pages load better and faster on my end.
- Menu/Tools/, General tab: uncheck Jump to page content, check Block pop-ups, Minimum font size 10. History tab: 2000KB, Network tab: All SSL and TLS checked, all Proxy left blank, Misc tab: All checked but Use grab and scroll. I found that checking grab and scroll slowed down the browser.
I'm planning on trying to optimize it more if at all possible maybe sometime this weekend. Also planning on possibly optimizing some registry entries for communicating via Internet. If there is an equivalent MTU setting like on PC's then that needs to be optimized because if you're going from GPRS to WiFi or 3G the settings won't be the same.
Edit: One more thing, if you didn't know about the opera.ini file here is a little info on that. I'm working on figuring out the best settings for this as well. Since I don't know when I'll have time to finalize this here is the info so you guys can look into it yourselves and not have to wait on anyone. ;-)
The file is located on your device at:
\\Application Data\Opera\opera.ini
You can find most of the preferences defined here:
http://operawiki.info/OperaINIFiles
I haven't had a chance to find where in the registry you can find connection optimization data but I know there are programs out there that you can setup profiles for each connection type, GPRS/WiFi/3G/etc...I wonder if these programs allow you to setup MTU's and other settings. Can anyone provide info on this?
Today when I used my Opera it was okay
It appears that our units are having erratic sluggishness at times. Most of the time it is fast but for no apparent reasons things started freezing up.
I'm begining to suspect this might be due to compaction thread activities going on, where the file system just simply takes up most of the available resources.
I thought the following information might be useful in order for us to understand what is really going on with our device.
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=106009
What does everyone else think?
Everynow and then when I click on a URL in an email etc Opera does not launch. The wait cursor spins and spins to no end. I then try to start Opera myself using its icon ... same result. I close all running applications wondering if this is memory related and try Opera again ... no difference. So in short I've had it with Opera for now so I want to go PIE way.
Does anyone know how I can change the system default such that each time I click on a URL PIE opens up instead of Opera?
Thanks a lot for all your help.
There are numerous video's out there showing things the HD can do but MY version certainly can NOT. And despite how cool these features are, surprisingly hardly Anybody talks about them, I find almost no information anywhere on this forum or on Google.
Check out this video, for example. A nice demonstration of LOTS of features that to my knowledge do not exist on the HD:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-smartphone
- First of all, the thing that caught my eye the most, is THE LACK OF THE ZOOM TRANSITION EFFECT BETWEEN PAGES THAT WAS IN ALL THE PREVIEW VIDEO'S.
- Then, there's the the IN CALL RECORDER application. Where the heck is it?!
- And even more important (yes I like graphics), the OPERA TAB SWITCHING, with its Cover Flow-ish way of showing all the open tabs as separate windows in semi-3D... See the attached screenshots. Also note how the buttons in the browser (at the bottom) are aligned differently. Can I get this Opera version somewhere?
The list goes on.
Why are these things not in the HD, or are they in yours and just not in mine?? Is it some firmware update I don't know about?
Please, enlighten me.
why they have removed the tabbing feature is beyond me.
I wonder if these are features that can be enabled?
My girlfriend has the Nokia N96 and her version of Opera even supports this. No, it does not look as fancy with the reflections and all, but the same tab windowing is there.
Also they said this version would include Flash Lite 3.1 well I can't even watch a video on the YouTube site. It does show more than without plugin (the movie overviews) but no playback.
And the zoom effect... As stated in a different thread it may be a performance issue, I can imagine it can cause freezes and instability, just like with the Manila tab-to-tab scrolling where you would see one screen flip away and the other one in, like on the first Diamond firmware versions. They just removed that transition because it lagged a lot.
Too bad.. The zoom effect looked really nice, albeit a bit iPhonish...
The Opera tab navigation is a mystery to me though. It's completely unrelated to other software and so it would not cause instability, it's just a missing feature in Opera.
And where is my in call recorder?? Such a tool seems very handy in a lot of situations, such as when contacting help desks, customers etc.
hi guys,
i'm also very interested to enable or find the OPERA TAB SWITCHING like on symbian nokia or iphone, it is really great;
and another thing, i want to have more than 3 pages open at the same time in opera, and it is set to 3 maximum...do you know where to set more pages allowed.?
thanks
While I agree it sucks that some features were pulled, it happens. One feature I do like (a lot) that was left in was the zoom feature in Opera (not the tap on page thing).
Click on the magnifying glass (bottom left) when in full screen mode, zoom away.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/11/18/opera-mobile-10-beta-available-on-windows-mobile/
Did anyone try it on the HD2?
ooh thanks for the tip, downloading and trying now.
First impression: Wow it loads up quick. Probably at least 1 third of the time of 9.5
It uses HTC keyboard rather than the Opera one as in Mini 5.
Just tested loading engadget on 10 and 9.5 and they came out about the same, around 16 sec on low strength wifi connection.
Tried testing a few sites and if anything 10 might be slightly slower at downloading and rendering, only by a second though and I might not be timing that accurately. Overall though it's much faster to load so one benefit there.
Note: Just realised I've been doing above tests with Opera Turbo off. doh. Re-testing with new sites now.
OK, with turbo on, thinkbroadband.com loads just under 5 seconds on Opera 10 and on 9.5 it's just under 9 seconds.
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First impression: Wow it loads up quick. Probably at least 1 third of the time of 9.5
It uses HTC keyboard rather than the Opera one as in Mini 5.
Just tested loading engadget on 10 and 9.5 and they came out about the same, around 16 sec on low strength wifi connection.
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Thank you for letting us know. It looks promising.
Does multitouch work naturally like in original 9.7 version included in hd2?
What I mean is, does the multitouch gesture zoom in the web page (enlarging the textsize etc) or does it zoom in the window (like non-supported applications manually added through registry)?
Thank you.
I think it's 9.5 included with HD2, but no, the multitouch isn't working in 10 beta.
Also need to find a way to replace it as the default browser...
Edit: Updated tests above with turbo on
Edit 2, I was wrong, it is 9.7 sorry.
No auto-rotation like in 9.7 either.
Another noticeable difference is the page updates way quicker. E.g. browsing my rememberthemilk.com tasks page on 9.7, there's a lot of the checked pattern when swiping around the page. On 10 there is none at all.
@ Biffy
Thank you for your quick response.
Is the executable named as "OperaL.exe"?
If not, did you try to rename it? This might restore multitouch gestures and auto-rotation
Will check the OperaL.exe, but won't I need to move it to the overwrite the default folder maybe?
Also tried swiping around engadget.com, in 9.7 it's not hard to get a bit of the checker pattern even after the page is loaded. On 10 I can't seem to get any and think it may be smoother overall too.
Edit: Renamed exe to OperaL.exe but now no pages seem to load...
It's nice to see the tab limit has been increased from the tiny amount on 9.7
I'm not sure if this new version will be work good with our htc hd2... because the opera version by default are optimised for our devices, not likely the beta version of opera.
(omg sorry for my poor english)
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Will check the OperaL.exe, but won't I need to move it to the overwrite the default folder maybe?
Also tried swiping around engadget.com, in 9.7 it's not hard to get a bit of the checker pattern even after the page is loaded. On 10 I can't seem to get any and think it may be smoother overall too.
Edit: Renamed exe to OperaL.exe but now no pages seem to load...
It's nice to see the tab limit has been increased from the tiny amount on 9.7
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I don't think that it is necessary to have it in the same location. But it may be necessary for the executable to have the same filename, window name & class name (you can check the last 2 using a task manager, but the filename is the easiest to start with).
You can increase the maximum number of tabs in version 9.7.
See the tips & tricks thread or type opera:config in your opera mobile
Just trying to sort out my wifi problem, as no connections were working. Then will retry as OperaL.exe
I knew about the tabs in 9.7 but it's still nice in 10 it's better by default, one less thing to have to tweak.
My connection is working again after a reset, don't know what happened there...
Renaming to OperaL.exe hasn't changed anything. The default executable is Opera9.exe, would it be worth trying that, or something else?
Edit: Opera9.exe doesn't help either. Guess it's not going to be such a simple fix.
Got to say, I like the way the interface is heading.
Not too worried about the lack of HD2-centric optimisations, that will surely come later.
Loads fast
Biffy said:
My connection is working again after a reset, don't know what happened there...
Renaming to OperaL.exe hasn't changed anything. The default executable is Opera9.exe, would it be worth trying that, or something else?
Edit: Opera9.exe doesn't help either. Guess it's not going to be such a simple fix.
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Thank you for trying.
Hopefully there will be a solution, so that Opera 10 will remain optimized for our device.
I think the thing I miss most is the auto-rotation. As it makes zoom un-necessary on lots of pages.
Pinch & zoom doesn't work, either auto rotate and no much differences from 9.7, better ui, opera turbo and little more.
and opera turbo loads faster yes, but it is a ****ty compressor that makes the images looks like crap.
I still with 9.7
been playing with Opera 10 this morning - FAST.
i guess you either love or hate Turbo, but I love it.
The only issue I am having is that the links from the sense browser page still open in 9.7, but 10 has made itself default for mail links, so a little muddled.
Turbo got better .. it can play animated gifs now for example (it couldn't before). But you can;t set image quality, and the default quality is very bad.