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How's the new one holding up? Anything different from the other WM 2003 betas? What about the problems with SD cards getting erased for no apparent reason....has that been fixed? :-D
Well since its the T-Mobile test ROM, we got back the following:
Today screen plug-in that displays T-Mobile, Call Log and Voice Mail
SMS Message from the New menu is back
Battery Monitor is back on the task bar (the one at the bottom of the screen).
T-Mobile is being displayed as your carrier as it should on the phone display.
Battery life is much improved as with the other betas.
Your T-Mobile connection settings are back.
Its pretty stable to me haven't had any problems with Alarms, erased SD cards and the such.
HTH
I upgraded the ROM yesterday and kept the AT&T A.20.10 radio stack. It definitely seems more stable, although the signal strenght meter shows weak signal, but I have not had any problems connecting.
sskarlatos said:
I upgraded the ROM yesterday and kept the AT&T A.20.10 radio stack. It definitely seems more stable, although the signal strength meter shows weak signal, but I have not had any problems connecting.
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So it is the radio stack that controls the signal meter and not the ROM!
I also forgot to note that the SIM Tool Kit has been removed from the T-Mobile ROM.
Stability
I've had major stability issues ever since I installed the T Mobile rom on my Qtek P1010 (PW10A1, O2 Radio Stack 4.21.00).
The xda has crashed on me on many occassions, I've been stuck in the middle of a call without being able to hang up, have had issues taking a call, and even using the buttons.
Using the TMO rom on O2 XDA - stability seems fine - not yet erased an sd card, the GPRS works fine, but the phone buttons do not seem to answer or drop a call - I have to use the screen options.
Hmmm. I think I read the 4.00.05 beta had the phone button problem too. Or I could be wrong...
I've been using it for about 3 days now w/ no problems. About 100x better than my 3.17 ROM from TMO. It's about time I can rely on this thing. Call quality is much better and I no longer drop calls where I did w/ previous radio stack & ROM.
working fine for 24 hours.
I upgraded to 4.00.10ENG ROM and the 6.24 Radio stack yesterday. So far, it works great.
The signal meter is trending a little bit lower than when is was running the ATT radio stack, but the call quality is better.
Is it me, or has the ability to disconnect a GPRS connection gone away? I have to turn off the phone to break the connection.
Which is better? I used both and found both to be similar with GPRS and signal strength. I was curious why one would choose over the other.. and also the advantages and disadvantages. I am currently using the latest 4.00.16 T-Mo ROM. TIA.
Actually I am curious as to that question myself.
I currently run the 4.00.11 ROM with the AT&T A20 stack.
The bummer is that since I upgraded to 4.00.11, the signal meter is pretty much unrealiable now. Sometimes it shows 1 bar or none. The phone still works the same and I don't get dropped calls, but weird that it does that.
As far as the radio stack, out of all the people here that have used one or the other, or both, someone has to have an opinion on that.
There has to be some difference in quality since 2 companies have their own stack, Tmobile and AT&T. One must be better in some ways.
I can't say much to the signal bars since I didn't pay too much mind to them before. I *think* my GPRS is slower after I used T-MO 6.24 ROM. I also noticed my GPRS would hang and require a soft reboot in order the mail to retrieve again. I may go back to A.20 since the switch was pretty painless.
I recently purchased a used XDA in good condition. The seller mentioned it has been flashed with WM2003.
It has a ROM version of 3.04.ee ENG
ROM Date : 06/12/2002
Radio Version M.E1
Protocol version : 324e4
I have not been able to find out if the Radio version is new or extremely old.
I reside in Canada and use FIDO GSM network and I can connect with their GPRS network and surf the net etc etc.
GPRS seems a bit slow where my Sony Ercisson phone can connect to GPRS from the exact same physical location and I can surf on it faster than on the XDA...kindda weird
Also, I notice that my GSM signal strength meter also hovers around 1 or 2 bars....where my Nokia or Ericsson show full signal...again weird
Can anyone shed some light on what I got (software ), and maybe should I upgrade to something better?
Thanks,
guru
If the radio works, regardless of the release number, I would suggest leaving it alone, also the bars for signal are in my opinion not very accurate. Radio stack upgrading is extremely risky, a phone with 2 bars is better than a paperweight/brick.
cruisin-thru said:
If the radio works, regardless of the release number, I would suggest leaving it alone, also the bars for signal are in my opinion not very accurate. Radio stack upgrading is extremely risky, a phone with 2 bars is better than a paperweight/brick.
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Thanks for your response.
I am happy with the unit overall, I would rather have it working than a paper weight.
Too bad this unit isn't designed to acept external hardware thru the SD port.
guru
Hello, first the details:
T-Mobile-branded unit, (PW10B1) running on Roger Wireless in Ontario, Canada. I got this unit over the weekend, and a few people reported calls that i had completely missed. after preliminary reading here i found a 'safe' looking ROM (RUUv2.07_CEv4.01.16) update to this:
ROM: 4.01.16 ENG
date: 02/04/04
Radio: 6.25.02
Protocol: 324e4
My issue:
The phone now displays a signal strength that was even weaker than before! please help with -
1. I've tried to look back at the posts with no luck on finding details about the radio stack options - are there any RSU updates that have proven to improve this issue?
2. I see people with a slightly different ROM titles (ROM 4.00.16 / Radio 6.25.2) are you having signal strength issues?
3. where would i find past versions of ROMs? like the 4.00.16 i mentioned above?
4. would it be better to try to update the radio stack separately?
thanks very much! sorry for the long post
Be very careful with radio stacks, if you mess up you could end up with a pda and no phone, are you sure that you have a bad signal, it might be an idea to experiment as I dont think the signal meter is terribly accurate in reality.
You should know that the signal strength display in WM2003 shows fewer bars for the same signal. It doesn't mean that your received signal is weaker. With WM2003 I've had great reception with one (tiny) bar, and usually acceptable reception with no bars.
thanks for the reply guys - i noticed i noticed the same things in its use yesterday - i carried on a complete conversation with no bars showing... crazy.
anyways, in that case i am pretty well happy with it. I think the test will be when i start using it heavily during my commute into and around Toronto.
again, thanks for the help
Here are the files which brought some people's Touch Cruise back to life.
Warning: Don't forget to HardSPL before using these!!!
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This is all the stuff you need:
Murata Radio-ONLY ROM:
http://rapidshare.com/files/141524518/Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar
Custom RUU (by udK) to avoid hardreset after flashing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376119
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Optional links for reading if you are interested:
Original shipped ROM by Murata Electronics:
Warning: This ROM will change your language to Russian, if you have only reception problems, use Radio-ONLY ROM above!
http://rapidshare.com/files/141527497/RUU_Polaris_HTC_RUS_1.25.411.1_radio_sign_25.65.30.04_1.58.21.23_polaris_murata_Ship.exe
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if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
mavvy4ever said:
Hi guys,
I stumbled across this thread... and it seems that there are already a few people who tried to flash the Russian ROM and after that flushing a WWE ROM without radio and they reported that their Polaris was working again after that...
I am currently a little too anxious to try out myself with my Orbit 2 but I thought it would be an idea to point this possible solution in a separate thread and for those who have tried it, please vote so we have a better overview if this is a fix or not...
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I tried the Radio-only first (after I did the HardSPL flash) but I still get only 2 bars 3G signal strength. Only outdoors it's 4 bars and when walking it's changing between 3 and 4 bars. 2G (GSM) is always at 4 bars inside and outside.
After that I flashed the complete Russian ROM but everything stays the same. Also after hardresetting the device. Even after flashing it again and again :|
Now I think I tried every option which I found on this xda forums several times... maybe any1 has another idea?
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No need for apologies well it gives me a better feeling that my Orbit2 is not really that bad, though I remember I had better reception in original state. Currently I'm trying to figure out why TomTom does not get any satellites. I have updated latest data with QuickGPS and chose Built-In GPS...
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took about half an hour to get the initial first gps fix... but from then on, it gets the first fix within 3-5 seconds... nice
its working again
Hi guys, i flashed the radio "Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23.rar" and since its back to full strength!
i also lost all my data cuz updating the radio also hard resets ur device;-)good luck folks and dont throw ur polaris away!
Works greaaat ! Thank you so much guys!!
Ok here is my story... I bought a Cruise but the first thing I did was to unlock it (without testing it before!). So when I tried it I thought "what this piece of ****... the reception is so bad!!" but thought it was normal so I was already thinking about selling it on eBay Then I found this forum....
I've just flashed it with Radio_Murata_PPAS_1.58.21.23 and it works like a charm now, so thank you very much!
ps: before finding this post I tried each rom radio I found! thx again!
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
superduper said:
if you have 4 bars in 2G mode, then nothing is wrong with your reception level. 3G mode is completely different from 2G mode all together. having 2-3 bars in 3G mode is perfectly normal. 3G coverage is week in general. You have nothing to be concerned about really.
In my situation I was having 1-2 bars in 2G mode and 1-2 bars in 3G mode. (Polaris). Also, in 3G mode signal frequently was degrated to the level where radio would automatically fallback to 2G mode and stay there. We have practicaly entire HTC range at our disposal. Every single HTC phone that has been manufactured Himalaya inclusive. As soon as I have noticed week GSM signal on Polaris, I have checked few others for the same issue, namely:
Kaiser, Wings, Niki, Excalibur, Cavalier, Himalaya, Pharos, Hermes, Trinity, VOX, Herald and few others.
Also, please note: Kaiser, Wings, Niki and Polaris were running indentical radio: stock standard 1.58.21.23. we keep our handsets consistent accross the board as much as we can.
Kaiser, Niki and Wings produced excellent reception quality results with full 3-4 bars in 2G and 3+ bars in 3G mode.(UMTS 2100 and HSDPA).
I have tested on 3 GSM networks in total.
At the same time, Polaris demonstrated very concerning results in both 2G and 3G mode. (see above).
That is why I have decided to further investigate this issue.
After flashing Murata PPAS radio, Polaris receives 3-4 bars in GSM mode indoors, full 4 bars outdoors, 3 bars indoors and 3-4 bars outdoors. This is perfectly in line with other phones based on the same hardware platform: Kaiser, Niki and Wings.
I hope it helps.
P.S. At this stage I come to conclusion that there are Polaris handsets that have issue and others that have not. No matter what radio they being flashed to. This is perfectly possible if manufacturer replaced some electronic chip in newer batches of phones. This is common practice for mass production. Therefore we have conflicting reports in both polls.
bottom line is: if your Polaris has no issues with GSM reception after non-Murta radio upgrade, then it will likely to keep good reception level with any radio.
Murata radio seems to address the issue with support for specific chip only in handset and will not improve reception level for every single Polaris out there.
Please accept my appologies for such a long winded post.
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Yeah I extensively tested my Orbit 2 this weekend. I think I have no more problems now with it. So my vote to my own poll is actually wrong now... should be "... my 3G reception is back to normal and at full strength"
Thanks to everyone involved on Xda Dev!
At home with original rom I had 2 bars, after to Raramomo SFR and 1.64.08.21
still 2/1 bars in 3G, I have tested Murata and always 2/1 bars, so I have decided to keep 1.64.02.21 because I known its battery's drain and I known nothing about Murata.
Thanks a lot for you works
Murata radio is a life saver for wm6.1..awesome full 4 bars reception...highly recemmended for anyone have reception problems after updated their radio ..awesome
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
Heyyooooo
Thank you VERY VERY VERY MUCH guys
My Polaris was born again
SecureGSM said:
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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So all new radios should be reconstructed from begining with these or similar settings?
harmsuploe said:
You guys are great! I flashed the radio only Murata, and it fixed everything.
I'm an US expat working in China. The entire import industry for the Polaris shutdown these few weeks because of this problem. There will be many happy Chinese HTC dealers tomorrow. Wooohooo!
Hearty, hearty thanks!!!!!
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Great news, but too bad my dealer hadn't heard about it when I picked mine up. Can you please point to where you downloaded that rom and what you used to flash it? I tried the first of the two links above and the RUU is unreadable (??????)...
Thanks.
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Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
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My question is, why my (I got it early, I guess I have an old model) Polaris came shipped with 1.58.23.21 where the Murata Radio reads version number 1.58.21.23 which is lower and thus I assume older?
SecureGSM said:
Just to clarify on this issue with low reception for some Polaris handsets:
Manufacturer has replaced some micro electronic components in some batches of Polaris.
Stock standard radio 1.58.21.23 and others has no support for those new components and therefore new handsets suffer low reception level issue.
1.58.21.23 radio Murata has support for new components included and maintains backward compatibility to earlier shipped handsets.
this radio will not affect ( improve or otherwise) reception quality for phones in older batches.
P.S. Radio is genuine.
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I think you are incorrect, I had other radio work on my polaris for little while in 3g before they dont work, I think it is got something to do with mty
Thank you for the great discovery. This Murata thing is working! I wanted to go with this device to the warranty, but i said to give this a shot, because my TC had the same simptoms discribed (only that i tested in GSM, i use 3g only for net).
Where i had signal between 70-80% (2-3 lines) now i have 100% (i use this percentage because i have batterystatus program that tells me in percentage). Where one hour ago my TC didn't discover any signal now it has 70% (2-3 lines).
I tested with dslreports.com/mspeed before and after:
GSM/GPRS: 29kbits before - 40kbits after
3g: 141kbits before - 200kbits after
My device information:
ROM VERSION: 1.25.405.1 WWE
ROM dare: 12/11/07
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23 (it writes the SAME version i had before, no murata no nothing)
Protocol version: 25.65.30.04W
I have to mention one thing: on my box (the box with the htc touch cruise in it), where it has the bar code, it writes Rev. A (from Revision A). I think maybe all devices with revision A will benefit from this radio and other revision not... please specify what it writes on your package.
Thanks again! Now I can say I am sattisfied with my investment (If you look in my posts I baught a s-h htc tytn I with battery drain problems... now is for sale for just 180 Euro in Romania... i can ship it if someone wants it)
thanks you for your help.
I had a bad reception in GSM mode.
I downloaded this rom.
Now in my room my reception is full (after 2-3 lines).
And my touch cruise detect a 3g area (no before this radio rom).
I try in my office this morning (no signal with the original rom).
I'am enjoy and this Rom resolve my problem.
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
yrsmart said:
Hello, im also expiriencing same reception problems, but in my system alredy says that i have radio rom 1.58.21.23, the phone never got flashed, can be alredy the murato radio rom ?!
If not, can i try the murato radio rom with the "original" installed rom that came with de device ?
Anyone knows where can i get this current rom i have or maybe back it up if i want to roll it back ?
Some users expirienced some attery drains after flash with murato... what about you guys ?
Regards, Ricardo.
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did you buy "second-hand" so it might have been already used with a rom and been restored to "original" state before sold to you?
you can overwrite the rom even if it has the same version number.
i have no battery issues with the murata radio only rom.