Display of clock when at standby? - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General

Hello! I am considering to buy a new Prophet. Since I do not wear a watch (I have been using my mobiles for this purpose) I would like to ask whether Prophet allows the display of time when it is in standby mode (P900 had a similar mode - clock was like a screensaver).
Thank you in advance..

Natively, it doesn't support it. You can however use a 3rd party application called SPB Time which will give you this option.

Thank you for info.
Ive been looking for this kind of thing.

Thank you for your answer! I am waiting for my Prophet so I have not tested it.
I hope that this program will not force the PDA to run in full mode (remain at standby mode while dispalying the clock)..
Regards!

when your device is in suspend mode, the screen is blank, you don't see anything, not even a screen saver.
There is one lock utility (I'm not sure if it will work on wm5) but if you press anybutton, it will show you the time, batt, signal, etc.
SPB clock has a nice screen saver but unfortunately, when screen is blank so is the SPB clock.

Try MortSaver which is a nice keylock and displays a clock when you bring the device out of sleep mode using any key. It will then switch the unit off again after x secs.
Oh, and its free (But I would recommend supporting poor old Mort with a donation as he produces a lot of very good software for the PPC!!!)

yep, this is the one I was refering to, but I think the x seconds are not customizeable. Correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks a lot! I will try these.. It is true that I was quite accustomed with my old P910 which always displayed a screensaver (even on "standby") mode.. It looks like I will have to live with it.. Btw, do you know where I could find a case that would be transparent on the side of the screen? (The current packaged screen is opaque and requires that I move out the prophet in order to see the time :-(.
Cheers!!

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What programs you looking for ?

Currently looking for .
Today icon to turn off screen so I can leave WIFI and MSN on with screen off.
Today icon to switch between landscape portrait.
Today bar that shows outgoing calls in minutes and sms texts sent.
Icon on today screen that lets me turn GPS on or off so it doesnt connect itself but I dont need dummy entries.
Task list that actually shows task title like " Walk dog " didnt like taskplus.
Remote software for TV, DVD etc.
What does anyone use for the above and what is everyone else looking for ?
woo.. I won't start about what I'm looking for - it's too much But I ordered (though it's on back order.. bah) the DevKit from MS, so maybe I'll make my own solutions in due time.
Anyway...
For the first two, just get one of the many utilities that allow you to launch a program from your Today Screen. I used tdLaunch right now, might move to cLaunch (same program, bit more functions), or use a different solution altogether. Then get...
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=15527
...to rotate your screen
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14498
or
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=15943
or
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=16314 (includes a component)
...to turn your screen off. Please note that I'm using the last one, and it turns the entire screen off (not just the backlight, the LCD panel as well) - so it won't respond to taps or anything; you'll have to use the on/off button to turn the screen back on. I don't know whether the other two turn the LCD off, or only the backlight.
Then just launch the appropriate application from your today screen using the today screen launching app. Simple as that
just checked - the other two turn the entire screen off as well
You need one single SW: SPB Pocket Plus[/url]

What is "Today timeout"??

I have a MDA Vario. In SETTINGS --> TODAY --> ITEMS tab, what is "Today timeout", which is set at "4 hr" by default?? Does anyone know pls? I do not see any reference to it in the manual. Thx.
Tones
I think that's the amount of time after which it will return to the today screen if you left it with an app open and didn't touch it.
i tried it last night by leaving a game running, but it was still there when i got up the next day. it does seem to be the function u described, mate. Anyone else have any ideas pls?
A game will certainly work differently as it will request permanent focus and fullscreen. Just try with a standard app like calendar...
well, it was only a simple solitaire card game, but nonetheless I will try standard one like you suggested. But if this "timeout" function really is to return to TODAY screen, what is the real use of it? to timeout in 4 hours? and the longest possible time option is 12 hours.
Doesn't it simply stop refreshing the today screen (ie the clock and other values)?
It still refreshes the clock when you put it into sleep mode. However, after a number of hours it always takes some time for the clock to jump to the correct time.
It is the idle time before the Today screen is shown.
It's near useless, I almost always keep my today screen on anyway, because who wants to wait 4hours to see it
Use my TodayButton app if you want quick access to the Today screen...
V
personally, I always return to the TODAY screen anyway by shutting down applications after i'm done with them. I just thought this "timeout" thing was a sophisticated and useful function, but it turns out to be quite the opposite. But i will never understand why anyone want to design it to timeout in HOURS and not in minutes.
I'm the same, I shut down apps and always leave it on the Today screen!
V
vijay555 said:
Use my TodayButton app if you want quick access to the Today screen...
V
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Doesn't the Red button do that anyway?
Nah, red button minimises apps to leave them running in the background (I think it actually just switches to the today screen). Some don't mind this, but for me, if I want the app open, I'll open it, and when I want it closed, I want it closed.
VJOkButt allows you to use the red button to minimse or close, and also properly close the phone to save around 3mb memory. But it does this sympathetically with the phone, so if you're in the phone, it hangs up, but otherwise it's a minimiser.
V
lolz
Morale of the story.... no one knows it. I always keep it disabled. So no big deal.
Had PDF softcopy of Reference Manual of my O2AL, and searched with no hint at all. Lets be it.....
I thought...
Guys,
I just stumbled upon this thread and thought it might be a good idea to get educated. I never knew it.
But this is what I thought - I thought it is the time slot to show appointments.
Means, if you chose a slot of 4 hours, and there are continuous meetings scheduled in your calender (and display of them enabled), then it would act like a rolling 4 hours window (read as slot).
Does this make sense? I never had so many appointmens, but always thought this was the use of it.
Comments please.

"Mini S2U"

Source Code Finally Posted...
Sorry it took so long to post the source. I haven't been monitoring this thread for some time due to other time demands. A recent email reminded me that I promised to release the source, so here ya go...
Release 6 Notes Below...
About a week ago, I was looking for an app that would lock my wizard when it came out of suspend. I use a bluetooth headset for all my calls, so I rarely remove my phone from its carrier. However, while talking, I tend to move around and frequently the hang-up button would be pressed resulting in a disconnect.
Frustrated, I looked at a few apps. I really like the "Slide to Unlock" feature in the iPhone-like app S2U. It more or less suited my needs. However, my bluetooth headset wouldn't work with S2U installed.
Thus I set about writing an app that would "lock" the phone whenever it came out of suspend mode. The result is the app, LockDown, attached to this post. Once run, LockDown sits in the background waiting for "resume" event. At this time, it locks all keys and prevents any stylus events save one - a "Slide right to unlock" slider control. As with S2U, once the thumb tab is slid all the way to the right, the keys are unlocked and the unit once again responds to the stylus. Also note that LockDown only takes up 5k of memory.
LockDown has been tested on TNT.1933 (WM6) for the Wizard. It's compiled as a PPC 2003 app, so in theory it should also work on WM5 and any PPC 2003 devices. I've tested it with my Visual Studio WM5 and PPC emulators, and it worked fine. However, it couldn't test it on the real deals.
It's a new app. While I'm not experiencing any problems, please consider it beta for now. As such, don't wire it up as an auto-start link until you've run with it awhile and are certain it works as advertised. For now, I suggest just copying it to your \windows folder and linking to it there. If you have any problems, please report them, and I'll address them ASAP.
Release 6 Notes
The slider bug was fixed.
The Message option was fixed.
Application Invocation
Lockdown [-lock] [-close]
With the -lock parameter, the application starts in lock mode.
With the -close parameter, the application is removed from memory (if running).
Registry Options in Folder \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Lockdown\Slider
Position (DWORD, 0):
If set to 0, the slider is centered.
If > 0, the slider is positioned X pixels below the "Top Taskbar".
If < 0, the slider is positioned X pixels above the "Bottom Taskbar".
Padding (DWORD, 2):
Pixel offsets for slider arrow from the left and right edges of the slider window.
Message (String, "Slide right to unlock.")
The text message displayed in the slider window.
TextColor (DWORD, 00FFFFFF hex):
Color of slider message. Note that the HEX color format is 00BBGGRR where BB is blue, GG is green, and RR is red.
FontPoint (DWORD, 16):
The font size of the slider message.
PenColor (DWORD, 00F04050 hex):
Color of the slider arrow.
BackgroundColor (DWORD, 00CCCCCC hex):
Color of the slider background.
WidthMultiplier (String, .92):
Must be a floating point value. Multiply this value with the lesser value of the desktop height or width (in pixels) to determine the slider width.
For example: If the desktop display is 240 by 320 and the WidthMultiplier is 0.9, the slider width is 216 (240 X .9) pixels.
HeightMultiplier (String, .22):
Must be a floating point value. Multiply this value with the lesser value of the desktop height or width (in pixels) to determine the slider height.
TabWidthMultiplier (String, 1.5):
Must be a floating point value. Multiply this value with the calculated slider height to determine the width of the slider arrow.
Note that the height of the arrow is always equal to the height of the slider.
EnableAnswer (DWORD, 1):
If set to 1, the answer button is enabled during an incoming call period (while the phone is ringing).
If set to 0, the answer button is always disabled.
EnableIgnore (DWORD, 1):
If set to 1, the ignore button is enabled during an incoming call period (while the phone is ringing).
If set to 0, the ignore button is always disabled.
After the installation, only the Position key will be present in the registry. I figure that most users will only tweak this value.
To modify the other parameters, add the appropriate keys with the defined types as shown in parenthesis. The default values are also listed in the parenthesis.
If you decide to tweak these parameters, please remove any shortcut to Lockdown from the StartUp folder. While I've taken steps to prevent "bad" values in these parameters, I still suggest this precaution.
Please note that Lockdown must be terminated and restarted before any changes to registry settings take effect.
As always, if you have any issues, please let me know.
W James
Very Great app...im sure many will find it useful
Does not work on my CDMA Touch
Tried it out but does not run on my CDMA touch.
It work for me on Hermes With schaps wm6 Ver 4.30
thanks.
WJames said:
Greets.
About a week ago, I was looking for an app that would lock my wizard when it came out of suspend. I use a bluetooth headset for all my calls, so I rarely remove my phone from its carrier. However, while talking, I tend to move around and frequently the hang-up button would be pressed resulting in a disconnect.
Frustrated, I looked at a few apps. I really like the "Slide to Unlock" feature in the iPhone-like app S2U. It more or less suited my needs. However, my bluetooth headset wouldn't work with S2U installed.
Thus I set about writing an app that would "lock" the phone whenever it came out of suspend mode. The result is the app, LockDown, attached to this post. Once run, LockDown sits in the background waiting for "resume" event. At this time, it locks all keys and prevents any stylus events save one - a "Slide right to unlock" slider control. As with S2U, once the thumb tab is slid all the way to the right, the keys are unlocked and the unit once again responds to the stylus. Also note that LockDown only takes up 5k of memory.
LockDown has been tested on TNT.1933 (WM6) for the Wizard. It's compiled as a PPC 2003 app, so in theory it should also work on WM5 and any PPC 2003 devices. I've tested it with my Visual Studio WM5 and PPC emulators, and it worked fine. However, it couldn't test it on the real deals.
It's a new app. While I'm not experiencing any problems, please consider it beta for now. As such, don't wire it up as an auto-start link until you've run with it awhile and are certain it works as advertised. For now, I suggest just copying it to your \windows folder and linking to it there. If you have any problems, please report them, and I'll address them ASAP.
W James
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hi WJames,
any screenshots of your app? it sounds very usefull, but how does it look
like?
today plugin s2u
it was a dream cam true if was a today plugin, to the left...lock, to the right ...unlock, but in the today,
I use my standard windows lock today plugin, without the lock buttons, so when i touch any buttom , the backlight goes on (to see the clock and appointments in one clic).
today plugin s2u is the rigth way.
great work
red.schumi said:
hi WJames,
any screenshots of your app? it sounds very usefull, but how does it look
like?
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as he said...it sits behind the screen..and waits for the resume event
Here's a screen shot as per request. It's very plain jane. I wasn't looking for the beauty of something like S2U. I merely wanted a functional app that didn't take up much real estate (5kb).
Once it's gone through the paces and looks to be bug-free, I'll release the code and you can tweak to meet your needs.
It gives a black screen with white text in the center of screen saying "Slide right to unlock." There is a box with a plain white slider. You cannot see your today screen.
edit: Sorry, had the page open while I tested it and did not notice your reply before posting.
is it me or do we really need another "slide to unlock" app to mimic the iphone. There's already S2U Pro & S2U2.
What's funny, is that yeah these are cool but are they really needed? If you setup the device button lock correctly, then what's the point of a S2U app? All it does is add one more step to getting to your today page....
smittyofdhs said:
is it me or do we really need another "slide to unlock" app to mimic the iphone. There's already S2U Pro & S2U2.
What's funny, is that yeah these are cool but are they really needed? If you setup the device button lock correctly, then what's the point of a S2U app? All it does is add one more step to getting to your today page....
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To each his own, but i run S2U2 because it allows me to operate my phone via bluetooth while the buttons are locked. The builtin lock doesn't let me do that.
perasite said:
To each his own, but i run S2U2 because it allows me to operate my phone via bluetooth while the buttons are locked. The builtin lock doesn't let me do that.
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Hmm, never had that problem with bulit-in lock. Yes, to each their own. I've installed/uninstalled S2U2 soooo many times. I love the app but end up finding that it serves me no real purpose (other then eye candy) and it gets uninstalled. New version comes out, installed for a about 3-4 hours, then uninstalled again.
Very Nice...can i Request something?
Hi
Thanks for the nice application
very small, problem free so far (on Eten M700 with WM6) & useful
Can i have 3 requests please:
1- can you make the slider spring back to the left if it was accidentaly moved to the right, right now it stays half way & i think if you make it spring back it will be more safe as a lock & it will look better too
2- can you make the slider button wider (double) so i can catch it with my fat fingers
3- can you add an icon, so i may put it in my today launcher list & it would look better than the plain white square, something like a lock or key or a hand can do.
I also noticed that sometimes as i come out of the suspend mode, the slider is either late to appear (1-2 sec) & may remain unresponsive for two or three trys to slide it to right (stays in place)
Once started i couldn't figure how to get rid of it & seems that only way is to soft reset to go back to normal wake up without locking
Hope these comments help..thanks again for nice work
smittyofdhs said:
is it me or do we really need another "slide to unlock" app to mimic the iphone. There's already S2U Pro & S2U2.
What's funny, is that yeah these are cool but are they really needed? If you setup the device button lock correctly, then what's the point of a S2U app? All it does is add one more step to getting to your today page....
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Those apps you mentioned take a ****load of memory and add to battery drain because of all the animations and graphics. His is a simple slide function that sips memory and battery life. Very useful IMO. Sliding is good cuz I find unlocking the WM way to be annoying. I have to touch an icon to lock. Then to unlock, I have to press two buttons. With sliding, it locks automatically and unlocking is accompished in one simple motion.
You're right that there's already enough S2U programs.
I also think S2U2 is an awesome balance between beauty and speed/mem cost. For people who have only tried S2U, you really need to change to S2U2... WAY faster and stable!
In most cases, yes S2U isn't that necessary, as it's similar an extra step to get to your today page, but I need it because:
1) My alarms don't wake if the phone is on standby, so I put it onto S2U2 mode when I sleep
2) My audio manager doesn't go to the next song if the phone is on standby, so I have to lock my phone while listening using S2U2
I question how good it'll be to have Slide 2 Lock as a today plugin, since I don't need some extra waste of space. What I do is set the gesture right-to-left (using FTouchFlo) to execute S2U2 so when I slide right to left, it opens S2U2, then sliding left to right, unlocks it. Love it!
smittyofdhs said:
is it me or do we really need another "slide to unlock" app to mimic the iphone. There's already S2U Pro & S2U2.
What's funny, is that yeah these are cool but are they really needed? If you setup the device button lock correctly, then what's the point of a S2U app? All it does is add one more step to getting to your today page....
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I hate to say it, but that's not quite true. If you setup the lock all buttons, sure you won't accidentally turn it on, but if you get a phone call, it doesn't just power right off (at least my 6700 doesn't) - it can and has made phone calls like that...
And as for the S2U/2 - they use quite a bit more memory than this. A 5k program use is great, although I won't use it because I like the clock on s2u2.
Great App
This is all I ever really wanted. Just a very simple slide unlock. simple.
Excellent.
thanks.
This simple slide to unlock app is perfect for my needs...Thanks!
The point here is WJames created an application for his own use and shared it with everybody. If someone think that it is not req. they might not use it. Anyway thanks for the nice little app.
Thanks! Great small app. Would be fantastic with a simple white clock above the lock bar though, so we could check the time on the phone without unlocking it. Thanks a bunch!

Standby Screen - Date & Time

Saw this question posed in one of the treo forums with no solution so far. Would anyone else be interested in a standby application that displayed the date and time, similar to what the Treo Pro does and S60 devices. See the attached pic to see what I am talking about. Since the Treo Pro is running windows mobile I wonder about the feasibility of extracting the app.
VERY interested to see time quickly!
Seconded! Would like this very much
this would be nice
I am intrested in this too. I will be very usefull for meny of us
(hand in the air)
I would like this feature very much, yes.
Thanks for asking, and thanks for being willing to have a go.
Yep, I miss that from my Nokia
I've read that devices that are able to do this have a "special" kind of screen (something about having multiple screen layers)... can anyone validate that claim? The easiest way to test this would be for someone to try to extract the screensaver from a Treo Pro rom.
Jep, would be nice. And would keep me from buying a watch, which saves my loads of money
i miss that from my W800i
every morning..i would just press the volume button and it would glow and show the time.
i also noticed no other touchscreen has this standby time.. maybe due to their screen technology?
You could set you X1 to glow up if you press a button and could view the clock from the Sony Panel.
S2U2 does this
essentially if ur pressing ur volume button to make the screen glow and show the time..isnt it as much as pressing the power button to see ur screen?
HendrikN said:
S2U2 does this
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This is not the same thing... the Treo Pro implementation essentially turns the backlight off but keeps the screen "active" to allow for the date and time to display which considerably saves battery life.

Can "World Clock" be disabled ?

Hello all.
I have a TD2 with The original HTC WM 6.5 ROM.
I love it, but one thing annoys me:
The world clock that pops up when pressing the watch.
It gets in the way everytime the phone ring, and i grab for it in my pocket.
I have googled it, and searched this forum, and all i have been able to find was a cooked ROM that has it disabled, but also had othér changes i don't want.
Is there a kind soul inhere hwo knows a simpler way to disable this "world Clock" feature? (and is willing to share the secret with me )
Thank you in advance Humpeligimp
What World Clock?
I'm assuming you mean when you tap on the clock on the home screen, unless you installed something - SPB Time, or something else with a screensaver - which gives you a world clock?
I hate to suggest the obvious, but if you don't put the lock on when the phone is in your pocket there is potential for bigger problems than the Clock settings to be displayed - a feature, rather than a bug.
My suggestion would be to engage lock before pocketing phone - last time I forgot I made a long silent call, so I soon learned!
Yes that world clock.
I am sorry if it could be misunderstood.
The ringing phone in the pocket was just an example. (Of course i lock my screen)
What i realy ment was can it be disabled ?
To stop it from stealing focus when i accidentially taps the time.
I find it annoying, and i have no need know the time in some other country,
just from the front of my phone.
I like to link my clock so that when i press it, it launches second today. I do this using ssmaho 0.0.4.0. I suppose you could link it to take you to the home screen (ie. do nothing)!
Thank you. I'll check ssmaho and see.
Humpeligimp

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