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Display of clock when at standby?

Hello! I am considering to buy a new Prophet. Since I do not wear a watch (I have been using my mobiles for this purpose) I would like to ask whether Prophet allows the display of time when it is in standby mode (P900 had a similar mode - clock was like a screensaver).
Thank you in advance..

Natively, it doesn't support it. You can however use a 3rd party application called SPB Time which will give you this option.

Thank you for info.
Ive been looking for this kind of thing.

Thank you for your answer! I am waiting for my Prophet so I have not tested it.
I hope that this program will not force the PDA to run in full mode (remain at standby mode while dispalying the clock)..
Regards!

when your device is in suspend mode, the screen is blank, you don't see anything, not even a screen saver.
There is one lock utility (I'm not sure if it will work on wm5) but if you press anybutton, it will show you the time, batt, signal, etc.
SPB clock has a nice screen saver but unfortunately, when screen is blank so is the SPB clock.

Try MortSaver which is a nice keylock and displays a clock when you bring the device out of sleep mode using any key. It will then switch the unit off again after x secs.
Oh, and its free (But I would recommend supporting poor old Mort with a donation as he produces a lot of very good software for the PPC!!!)

yep, this is the one I was refering to, but I think the x seconds are not customizeable. Correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks a lot! I will try these.. It is true that I was quite accustomed with my old P910 which always displayed a screensaver (even on "standby") mode.. It looks like I will have to live with it.. Btw, do you know where I could find a case that would be transparent on the side of the screen? (The current packaged screen is opaque and requires that I move out the prophet in order to see the time :-(.
Cheers!!

Automatic Screenlocker

1 thing that bugs me about the X1 is that when I make a call or receive a call I press the display with my ear and I'm entering menues and possibly even changing settings without knowing it.
Is there a way to automatically lock the screen when making a call or receiving a call? (like it's done with the power button)
Any help is appreciated

It should be possible to steal the registry settings from a TyTn 2 device or Touch Pro for that setting. Anyone here know the specific registry settings?
As an alternative search the Kaiser forums, someone over there will have the details.

My x1 does this anyway
After being on a call for around seven seconds, the screen locks and only activates again by pressing power, hang up or answer call (Green/pickup)
No idea if this is intended...but its certainly a good idea.

jeeves5454 said:
It should be possible to steal the registry settings from a TyTn 2 device or Touch Pro for that setting. Anyone here know the specific registry settings?
As an alternative search the Kaiser forums, someone over there will have the details.
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I found this over at the Kaiser forum: S2U2
This app has the screenlock/screenpoweroff feature among others. Check it out. It's free too!
Thank you for the replies!

emwdava said:
I found this over at the Kaiser forum: S2U2
This app has the screenlock/screenpoweroff feature among others. Check it out. It's free too!
Thank you for the replies!
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would this work on the x1 i know it only supports qvga and vga devices i'm not sure if AC's released a version compatible with wvga phones yet if so this app is a must have

Keland44 said:
would this work on the x1 i know it only supports qvga and vga devices i'm not sure if AC's released a version compatible with wvga phones yet if so this app is a must have
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I works on the X1, but sometimes the app fails to bring itself to the front. So it appears nothing happened when in fact the display is locked. This happens alot in landscape. To set things right again just go to portrait mode and tap the iLock icon twice (if it's already running it will shutdown itself, tap again and it starts).
EDIT!!
I found a fix for the landscape bug. Change display from direct draw to Raw Buffer.

Naffets said:
My x1 does this anyway
After being on a call for around seven seconds, the screen locks and only activates again by pressing power, hang up or answer call (Green/pickup)
No idea if this is intended...but its certainly a good idea.
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Mine does the same, it turns off and I must press the power button to activate again..

I think that S2U2 was fun for a while but nothing more than that. What i wan't is something that uses the standard lock activated by the "No"-key and turns it on automatic. Dosen't some other WM phone have these issues?

emwdava said:
EDIT!!
I found a fix for the landscape bug. Change display from direct draw to Raw Buffer.
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Thanks, got the same Problem and this solved it!

on my trinity it was all well and good until you need to type in an account number or credit card details while using the phone to call a bank or make a payment!

csdevctrl
Use "csdevctrl"
--->>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386451
It can lock your device in whatever way you want...
Greets !

Hi fotoingo,
This is just what I needed - thanks.
As a non dev and just returning to WinMo after a long absence, please can you advise how I would get the hard keys on the X1 to work during a call and just disable the touchscreen?
Thanks

sthoeft said:
Thanks, got the same Problem and this solved it!
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for all s2u2 fanatics out there. run the version 1.22 its the most stable for X1 and disable backligt check and direct draw off, never hangs or anything at all.
there are better solutions for win mo phones then s2u2, otherwise buy an iphone...

Question for xperia owners/users

I have a view questions because i am really in doubt about what phone to get.
The HD or the X1
hd because of the big screen and i love the tf3d.
x1 because of the keyboard (never had a sm with keyboard) and flash
What i would like to know about the X1 is:
1. the screen resolution is the same as the HD, but in a smaller screen.
so this means that everything is smaller on your screen.
does this make if difficult to use your fingers to use the phone?
2. if i am not mistaking, the screen is not on the surface but its a little lower.
does this make it difficult to use your fingers (for X button and stuff like that)
3. is the flash on the camera any good?
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
5. is opera browser installed on it and default?
6. any you tube app like on the diamond?
7. i listen music a lot when i am on the road.
is it easy to use?
is the sound good?
is it smooth when doing other things on the phone or will you notice the phone having to perform more?
8. is there an easy way to rotate the screen when you want?
seeing there is no accelerometer
9. for the users who used the diamond
do you regret the switch or are you satisfied?
(mainly because of the panels vs tf3d and screen)
thanks for taking the time

U can use Tf3d on the Xperia and all ur problems is solved u get the best of both =)

I don't own it yet, but I can tell u my impression about it judging from others
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
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it's very standard windows mobile compare to it's rivals (samsung and htc)
no it doesn't have any software keyboard but the standard windows one, but don't worry, you can install replacements, one of the best right now is the touch HD's keyboard, it's already here check the other thread
about other softwares, well they're pretty crap, but I personally already have a lot of essential 3rd party softwares waiting to be installed once I got the phone.

1. the screen resolution is the same as the HD, but in a smaller screen.
so this means that everything is smaller on your screen.
does this make if difficult to use your fingers to use the phone?
yeah everything is smaller on the screen, using your fingers only on the screen is alright but dont expect to type with the built in on screen keyboard with ur hand.. its bloody useless without the stylus..
2. if i am not mistaking, the screen is not on the surface but its a little lower.
does this make it difficult to use your fingers (for X button and stuff like that)
erm.. i dont think it makes it more difficult, i have no problem pressing the x button although u can just press the ok button on the bottom much easier..
3. is the flash on the camera any good?
nope.. its basically a flashlight from the old se phones...
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
everything is standard windows i think.. phone cal, contacts, sms and all..
5. is opera browser installed on it and default?
yepp but its semi useless (at least on mine..) for some reason if i use opera and type an address with the hardware keyboard the area where u enter text keeps dissapearing.. and it wont work most of time time unless you are on hspda..
6. any you tube app like on the diamond?
havent found one yet, the one on the tf3d dont work..
7. i listen music a lot when i am on the road.
is it easy to use?
is the sound good?
is it smooth when doing other things on the phone or will you notice the phone having to perform more?
cant really answer that.. as i use my iphone for that..
8. is there an easy way to rotate the screen when you want?
seeing there is no accelerometer
yeah flip the screen up and it rotates...
9. for the users who used the diamond
do you regret the switch or are you satisfied?
(mainly because of the panels vs tf3d and screen)
dont have a diamond but i installed tf3d on mine..

anheuer said:
I have a view questions because i am really in doubt about what phone to get.
The HD or the X1
hd because of the big screen and i love the tf3d.
x1 because of the keyboard (never had a sm with keyboard) and flash
What i would like to know about the X1 is:
1. the screen resolution is the same as the HD, but in a smaller screen.
so this means that everything is smaller on your screen.
does this make if difficult to use your fingers to use the phone?
It is smaller but I have no problems accessing things. In standard WinMo apps is can be a little annoying but you get used to it
2. if i am not mistaking, the screen is not on the surface but its a little lower.
does this make it difficult to use your fingers (for X button and stuff like that)
'Slight' recess but no issues
3. is the flash on the camera any good?
It is weak - I wouldn't rely on it. I am thinking primarily as a very weak torch rather than a flash
4. how good is the software? is there a nice softkeyboard?
how much is standard windows? (like phone cal, write a sms, look in contacts ect.)
Standard WinMo - same as Touch HD and Daimond. WinMo is almost designed for you to run third party apps!
5. is opera browser installed on it and default?
Opera is installed, but it isn't default. A simple registry hack cures it. In my case it works absolutely fine on 3g/HSDPA or wireless. A very good mobile browser
6. any you tube app like on the diamond?
Nope. But if you get Coreplayer you can access youtube from there
7. i listen music a lot when i am on the road.
is it easy to use?
is the sound good?
is it smooth when doing other things on the phone or will you notice the phone having to perform more?
Haven't done an extended test but it appears absolutely fine. Again get a third party app to get the most out of it but of course with all players your headphones will make a difference
8. is there an easy way to rotate the screen when you want?
seeing there is no accelerometer
Open the keyboard or you can assign one of the bottom softkeys to do this
9. for the users who used the diamond
do you regret the switch or are you satisfied?
(mainly because of the panels vs tf3d and screen)
I have used the Diamond and it is good, but the TouchFlo 3D does become a bit 'meh' to me after a while. I find the SPB Mobile Shell Panel (free download from SE site) to be far better for my needs!
thanks for taking the time
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No problems! To be honest I had the same dilemma but I felt the Touch HD was just a bit too big for portability. The SE for me is the perfect phone! I am definitely glad I got it

Thanks for the comments!
so one more question
are you satisfied?
what is in your own opinion the pros and cons of this device.
in general and in comparison with diamond/pro/hd
soft and hardware

Pros
excellent screen
TT7 (GPS) works great
Reception and 3G reception very strong
Panels concept (yes I do like it - I believe there will be better panels coming out and the Radio Panel (best radio i've had on a mobile device!) and SPB Shell Panel show what is possible...
Quality contruction
Hardware keyboard (not a huge fan of software keyboards)
Works well as a phone (has the feeling of a phone i.e. not too wide etc.)
Cons
WinMo 6.1 is not really finger friendly
Camera (good during the day - not much use during the night)

anyone els who likes to share?
small other question, i noticed that some people are talking about an X1, X1a and X1i
What is the difference?

anheuer said:
anyone els who likes to share?
small other question, i noticed that some people are talking about an X1, X1a and X1i
What is the difference?
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X1a = US Version
X1i = EU Version
X1i has Euro 3G bands and 30 fps @ VGA video recording
X1a has US 3G bands and 24 fps @ QVGA video recording.

aah ok
Thanks!
Anyone els wants to share there opinion?

One other question i thought of is:
On my diamond i use S2U2 to prevent my screen to be pushed when in my pocket.
this because i dont like the one windows mobile offers (with 2 taps)
is there a different solution made by se?
or..........?

I want to ask too, does X1 has audio recorder app that not just to record incoming call?

I own a Touch Pro and a X1 and I really think X1 is the best phone ever done. And finallly the GPS lag is gone¡¡¡

danielherrero said:
I own a Touch Pro and a X1 and I really think X1 is the best phone ever done. And finallly the GPS lag is gone¡¡¡
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what are the main reasons you prefer the x1 over the pro?
(soft and hardware)

anheuer said:
One other question i thought of is:
On my diamond i use S2U2 to prevent my screen to be pushed when in my pocket.
this because i dont like the one windows mobile offers (with 2 taps)
is there a different solution made by se?
or..........?
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X1 has the ordinary WM lock function. You activate it by a long press on the end call button. Unlocking is the same as usual, press left soft button and then Unlock button on the display.
Actually you can press any button (Panel, OK, Volume etc.) and then right soft button to unlock also, call it a feature or a bug.
I prefer using a short press on the powerbutton to simply switch off the display. This locks all keys and the display as well. One more press and your back.

on8a said:
X1 has the ordinary WM lock function. You activate it by a long press on the end call button. Unlocking is the same as usual, press left soft button and then Unlock button on the display.
Actually you can press any button (Panel, OK, Volume etc.) and then right soft button to unlock also, call it a feature or a bug.
I prefer using a short press on the powerbutton to simply switch off the display. This locks all keys and the display as well. One more press and your back.
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Ok, but what if the device activates the screen.
because of an incoming sms or incoming call?
by the way, what does the call screen look like (when you get an incoming call and you want to accept or decline)
standard windows or something like htc does or......?

anheuer said:
what are the main reasons you prefer the x1 over the pro?
(soft and hardware)
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The look, Performance, GPS , screen, battery duration, I can use my earphones.
I know It hasnt g-sensor but I didnt use it too much. I think this feature is very good implemented in Omnia, but not in Diamond/Pro....

anheuer said:
Ok, but what if the device activates the screen.
because of an incoming sms or incoming call?
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The screen get's activated, but after the set time for the screensaver it's blank again. You can set it to wake up on any button or just the power button. So if you press a button while trying to get it out of your pocket and there just has been a missed call so the screen is on, it is not key locked. Small risk though.
by the way, what does the call screen look like (when you get an incoming call and you want to accept or decline)
standard windows or something like htc does or......?
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It's the normal windows screen. The left soft button silence the call, the right replies with a standard text message.

Help- Wake up to 9 panel page???

My X1 won't wake up to the panels, it wakes up to TF3D i have installed... is there a way to have it wake up to the 9 panel page? Like a cab, reg edit or something?
I've searched and haven't found anything...
Thanks in advance!

create a shortcut of panelmanager.exe in Program Files\PanelManager and put it in windows\startup
edit: noticed you said wake up...the solution i've posted should work when you turn the phone on. Not for wake up though.

yeah, thanks for the insight tho bro... id really like to see wake up in panels view...

If you want your phone to wake up to the panel you used the last:
When you are using S2U2 then switch off the option for "unlock to home".
Also uncheck Start --> Properties --> Today --> Elements --> show today screen after xxx hours.
If you want the phone to wake up into the "Panel selection screen" -this won't be possible, I fear.

found a partial work around... under backlight settings, i uncheck turn odd device after X minutes... that way, if i turn my backlight off when in 9 panel mode, it will always wake up to it... basically it will wake up where u left it! this will work for now til a real fix/tweak comes along

itsallsubliminal said:
found a partial work around... under backlight settings, i uncheck turn odd device after X minutes... that way, if i turn my backlight off when in 9 panel mode, it will always wake up to it... basically it will wake up where u left it! this will work for now til a real fix/tweak comes along
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I don't think that there will be a "fix" because there is no "issue".
The phone is not meant to wake up to the panel selection screen. This would be as if my home computer would boot to the taskmanager or I would enter a house through the elevator and not through the front door
I don't really want to know why you want your phone to wake up the the panel selection because I'm sure you have your reasons but you seem to be one in a million to like such a behaviour.
If I would have to choose a panel first everytime I wake up the phone to see the clock or the calender or the messages I would bring it back to the store the same day and buy another one.

skycamefalling said:
I don't think that there will be a "fix" because there is no "issue".
The phone is not meant to wake up to the panel selection screen. This would be as if my home computer would boot to the taskmanager or I would enter a house through the elevator and not through the front door
I don't really want to know why you want your phone to wake up the the panel selection because I'm sure you have your reasons but you seem to be one in a million to like such a behaviour.
If I would have to choose a panel first everytime I wake up the phone to see the clock or the calender or the messages I would bring it back to the store the same day and buy another one.
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well, i wear a wrist watch and tapping a panel to check messages isn't that big of a deal to me... and altho its not a "fix", it will be more of a "Tweak"...
But, i plan on taking a crack at creating my own panels (not sure how difficult it would be) and that way i can put specific programs to launch from panels, for example Opera or a specific media player...
All i can say is "to each his own" mah man....
maybe i feel this way because i've had a Touch Pro for a while now and am kind of tired of TF3D (altho it is nice to have on the X1), but i recieved this x1 as a generous bday gift from a friend today and am infatuated with these panels!

App Request : Enable keypad backlight while screen is on

For any devs out there...
Would it or is it possible to develop an app that will keep the backlight on for the keypad ? i.e. On while the screen is on and go off when the screen goes off ?
In the dark its very annoying when using the Hero and having to fumble for the right key to press - Home, Back, Search etc.

i second that

well erm just press any key and the light will go on dude, you dont need an app for this

So you fumble and hit Home or even power off (to sleep) the screen when you only wanted to hit search or back.
Flicking the scroll wheel is the only way to light up the keys and not press the wrong one by mistake, but that tends to highlight a button, link etc... and sometimes if you hit the ball too hard, you select a screen element.
Still a pain and TBH not like any handset I used before. Backlight time out was always linked to screen time out.

You dont need to hit any key, just move the scroll wheel even slightly and lights come up. And it does need decent amount of pressure to press the scroll button, you wont accidentally press it.

er, yer, I know... but I don't want too

lets just say "even if it doesnt make sense to some people, WE want it!"
btw, there is one app "dark keys" that keeps the backlights of the keypads off all the time. this was made for the white G1. maybe it can simply be rewritten to make the reverse happen?

joemax said:
For any devs out there...
Would it or is it possible to develop an app that will keep the backlight on for the keypad ? i.e. On while the screen is on and go off when the screen goes off ?
In the dark its very annoying when using the Hero and having to fumble for the right key to press - Home, Back, Search etc.
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i'm beeing annoyed by the keys not being lit as well ...

Glad I'm not the only one

Yeah, I want it too. Thanks for bringing this up!

I think it's good idea, btw it looks cool at night. I want it too

Good idea. +1

So which dev is gong to earn a couple of $$, ££, €€ by writing this for each copy sold then ??

From what I can tell of the API docs (http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html, the SDK only allows for the keyboard backlight to be on in FULL_WAKE_LOCK state, meaning the screen will have to be full brightness.
So I don't think this request can be achieved by a pure SDK app.

How come it lights up at any screen brightness on the Hero ?
Surely its also a hardware call and not just an OS call ? These would be independent of Android and particular to each manufactures handset, else they would all be the same.
Not questioning you, but it would seem strange that its not addressable separately to the screen ???

joemax said:
How come it lights up at any screen brightness on the Hero ?
Surely its also a hardware call and not just an OS call ? These would be independent of Android and particular to each manufactures handset, else they would all be the same.
Not questioning you, but it would seem strange that its not addressable separately to the screen ???
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I'm by no means an Android SDK expert, just posting what I found in a quick search round the docs. Happy to be proven wrong!
Lee

Of course - wasn't criticising at all

Might be able to dabble in the /sys/class/leds/ folder.
I'll take a look when I get in.
Not a dev though. Lol.

soulehmoo said:
Might be able to dabble in the /sys/class/leds/ folder.
I'll take a look when I get in.
Not a dev though. Lol.
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Correct.
echoing a value to:
/sys/devices/platform/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0066/leds/button-backlight/brightness
through adb shell turns on the backlight.
I think an SDK app could be created as a service with a broadcast receiver listening for the power state changing that just writes a positive value to the file above.
Loads of similar examples here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=565015
I'll take this on, just about got it working.

Wicked thx
You are stars (especially fullerlee)
Don't make it too expensive though