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What different things get installed say if i install the
I mate Rom
or just install the Ext Rom
Just wondering if doing the Rom you get extra things?
Ever heard of a search button?
Did you try using it before posting?
As you obviously didn';t i will enlighten you as to the difference -
The ROM is the core OS, so WM5, Pocket word, etc. etc.
The EXT ROM is the customisations by the provider, e.g. different colour schemes, extra programs, etc.
Thanks for the info
But you are a nob
which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
Why not try them and see?
So many people come on here looking to be spoon fed...people will tolerate it up to a point, but then wont bother.
You really should try them yourself and test them...try reading through the relevant threads and see what people are saying about them.
they all are... tried and tested by many....
some have bugs(unsupported features)
and you can find all of them in this forum.
it only depends on what you install on them.
i hv tried all and think that the clean version of wm6.1(6.1.02 DVH) without Ramdisk is best cause it has both the netcf and office(excel+word) and also the mystrious theme for media player. All other version either hv the netcf or the office and the version without netcf requires the netcf to run their primary applictions (GettingStarted, calc, usb hdd, etc.) so u hv to loose ur 5mb to run them.
In clean version gettingStarted is removed to put office as it is more important.
So give it a chance u will find it worth.
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which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
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it seems you have a lot of pocketpc's. is the blue angel one of them? you cannot use a ROM not intended for your device.
i only have a BA and 575 SP.
sorry for asking, i'm too busy now with work.
i also like wm6.1 without ramdisk, but i'm confuse with the extrom they're talking about.
do i really have to install extrom?
and is there a way to put all installed programs and contacts, messages to storage card?
thanks for your big HELP.
hi
i have siemens sx66 & i tried several roms from here but all roms says that this rom is not for this device.
please help
thanks
jrguy8 said:
i only have a BA and 575 SP.
sorry for asking, i'm too busy now with work.
i also like wm6.1 without ramdisk, but i'm confuse with the extrom they're talking about.
do i really have to install extrom?
and is there a way to put all installed programs and contacts, messages to storage card?
thanks for your big HELP.
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you can opt NOT to install extrom. just don't copy the folder (and its contents) to your storage card, so it won't install when you upgrade ROM's.
i'm not sure if you can copy all programs to the storage card, so you can put them back when you upgrade.
a) if you have exe files, then it is ok.
b) but if these programs came from cab files, then you can use the EXTROM to install these straightaway. or you can install them one by one
c) otherwise, you have to install them from your computer.
with respect to contacts and messages, this post is your answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1189061&postcount=1
i have pda2k, which has 128 ram and 64mb rom (accdg to gsmarena). is extrom already included in the 64mb rom? the xdaIIs has 96mb rom (44mb available).
the extrom folder from the sd has cab files which is to be installed automatically when you upgrade your rom, is that it?
jrguy8 said:
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Simple: The ones without any additional cruft, bling, or dancing monkeys added.
Remember - most if not all of these ROMs are based on the same fundamental base (barring the fakes, or hacks). It's generally only what the ROM chefs personally want to have added which makes the difference. And even those things can be 'fixed' or overwritten with installers/CABs.
I've had my philosophical 'rant' already ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973631&postcount=2
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i have pda2k, which has 128 ram and 64mb rom (accdg to gsmarena). is extrom already included in the 64mb rom? the xdaIIs has 96mb rom (44mb available).
the extrom folder from the sd has cab files which is to be installed automatically when you upgrade your rom, is that it?
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i think u should check the wiki first.
Storage(60)-Storage available (44)=Extendedrom(16)
so u dont hv 96mb its 60 mb only. and before upgrading do not forget to merge extended rom to available storage to get more space.
thanks for correcting me.
i also read about page pool, i think the ext rom is used for that, does it really improved performance?
how can i backup and reinstall my original rom?
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Why not try them and see?
So many people come on here looking to be spoon fed...people will tolerate it up to a point, but then wont bother.
You really should try them yourself and test them...try reading through the relevant threads and see what people are saying about them.
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I've tried many WM6 and WM6.1 but can't find one of the best. And
there are more to come. So help me find one of the most stable and best WM6 or WM6.1.
Thanks B4H.
Hello & good morning Every body.
I need a lot of answers to Cook a WM6.1 rom. here are my questions :-
1- How can I convert Cab files into OEM ?
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2- How can I modify them to relocate the short cuts to different folders ?
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3- How can I delete the Help files from it?
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4- what are the tools I need in cooking a rom ?
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5- How can I add the OEM packages in the rom ?
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6- How can I delele the programs or files that I don't need from the rom ?
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7- Do I have to modify the registery and how can I do that ?
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8- I read that the net compact framework 3.5 is better than the 2.0, so how can I replace the 2.0 by the 3.5 ?
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9- I like the Spb mobile shell and the other Diamond skins for the windows applications like the dialer, the calculaters , contacts and the Windows media player. So how can I merge this application to start as the today screen and how can I replace the windows skins with the diamond skins ? what are their pathways?
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10- How can I replace the File explorer with the resco Explorer ?
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11- How can I create new folders in the start menu ?
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12- If I don't need the ram disk can I blend it with the rom ? I mean the programmes memory and If it possible will the device be faster ?
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I know that these are boring questions and It may waste your time but forgive me I'm just a newbie .....
Just finished the 5th medicine year ,, so If you need my help in medicine I'll be here for you......
My device is Himalaya ( Qteck 2020 )...
please answer my questions in detailed fashion ....
the help files are html documents.
you can find it in the dump folder.
to cook a rom, you will need a kitchen or a decompiler
the registry settings are in the dump folder.
you can edit them by using the windows editor
It's a bit difficult
Thanx for replying ,,, but which kitchen or decomplier should I use ?!
what is a dump folder ?!
if someone can make a tutorial doc with sceen shots that helps me to Learn it will be surely appreciated......
but Even If I cook A new rom I need to add some cabs to it so how can I do that ?!!!
For a start, I think the Himalaya forum may have some helpful info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=243
This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378987 has a link to the kitchens for the Himalaya.
thanx l3v5y
o.k. these are the kitchens but infact I'm not professional in using them in other words I need some on do demonistrate the steps to me ?
I need to create my own packages from the cab files I have ,,,, so plz can some one EXPLAIN it to me ?
by the way I think cooking roms or reprogramming is more difficult than studing Medicine ......
On the first point, I think trying things out is probably the fastest way to learn... Make small changes, see what happens, and then make bigger changes.
To create OEM packs, you need something like ervius' package tool. here
You need to load the cab file (press the button to do so), and then that will open "MSCEInf". In that program, you'll need to extract the files (It's a button on the top tool bar) to the default location, then close that program and follow the options through with the package creator.
Real progressing
o.k. let's say that I wanna use Avis 6.1 kitchen I'm downloading it but the problem is taht It comes with Chekhar's Rom ( 19199 ) but I wanna use PDAviet WM6.1 ( 19213 ) ?
So how can I replace the chekhar's rom ?
and how can I put the package in the rom ( just coping ) or by using a special too ?
and How can I delete some softs from the rom ?
Could you demonistrate an Example here with explanatory Pictures> I'm just a newbie
Thanx l3v5y So much
look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391087
cyron_at said:
look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391087
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That doesn't apply well to the Himalaya, as there is a different ROM structure...
Oweida said:
o.k. let's say that I wanna use Avis 6.1 kitchen I'm downloading it but the problem is taht It comes with Chekhar's Rom ( 19199 ) but I wanna use PDAviet WM6.1 ( 19213 ) ?
So how can I replace the chekhar's rom ?
and how can I put the package in the rom ( just coping ) or by using a special too ?
and How can I delete some softs from the rom ?
Could you demonistrate an Example here with explanatory Pictures> I'm just a newbie
Thanx l3v5y So much
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I'm sorry, but I have no idea about the details of Himalaya cooking... I can do Prophets, but not them...
I'd suggest asking in one of the Hima threads, or maybe a mod could move this?
Unblievable
I was hoping it would be beneficial and useful school
o.k.
no problem,,,, If any buddy can help me with avis kitchen how can I replace it's rom with the WM6.1 PDAviet ( 19213 ) and how can I put the package on it ??
L3v5y thanx for ur time
Oweida said:
I was hoping it would be beneficial and useful school
o.k.
no problem,,,, If any buddy can help me with avis kitchen how can I replace it's rom with the WM6.1 PDAviet ( 19213 ) and how can I put the package on it ??
L3v5y thanx for ur time
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If I could be more help, I would!
I think that kitchen may only be able to use that ROM... Try one of the other kitchens... You'll need to dump the ROM and then rebuild it...
My Brain is getting Fried
Plz at least , I need someone to help me to package my cabs...
I do have the Package Creator, I even Packaged a cab but the problem is I need to delete some files ,, such as help one and I need to replace / relocate some inks also when I'd packaged it I didn't find the resultant file although it was saying packaging completed successsfully.....
I've been reading the tutorial on wiki and some threads provided in the forum but, I did not understand anything although the manual method looks somehow easier than the automated method using the creator program but it takes a long time with someone impatient like me.....
what I need is an Example demonisterated thoroughly and precisely .
since I'm using the Quickmenu I had been sorting my softs into many folders , Multimedia , Utilities , readers , E-Books, etc but some of these softs are installed on my SD card because of shortage of Storage Memory ( Device one ). It's just a 30MB. So if there is any Expert in packaging issue to help me or and that's unfortionate I'm gonna give up the whole Idea of Cooking and baking....
Thanx brothers.
Oweida said:
Plz at least , I need someone to help me to package my cabs...
I do have the Package Creator, I even Packaged a cab but the problem is I need to delete some files ,, such as help one and I need to replace / relocate some inks also when I'd packaged it I didn't find the resultant file although it was saying packaging completed successsfully.....
I've been reading the tutorial on wiki and some threads provided in the forum but, I did not understand anything although the manual method looks somehow easier than the automated method using the creator program but it takes a long time with someone impatient like me.....
what I need is an Example demonisterated thoroughly and precisely .
since I'm using the Quickmenu I had been sorting my softs into many folders , Multimedia , Utilities , readers , E-Books, etc but some of these softs are installed on my SD card because of shortage of Storage Memory ( Device one ). It's just a 30MB. So if there is any Expert in packaging issue to help me or and that's unfortionate I'm gonna give up the whole Idea of Cooking and baking....
Thanx brothers.
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For packages, this: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=OEM Package Tutorial is the most thorough tutorial.
How i can delete Programms or any kind of Files, that are included in a ROM that i dont need. For example the Polaris Project is awesome, fast and stable ROM, but many Programms total Rubbish for an normal User and waste of Memory.
There must be a way to delete Rom included Files. i mean Unistall Programms
oh my dear
there is no way to remove software from your ppc which flash in a rom.
but you can cook a rom in your liking style.
how to cook a Rom, any Guide here...
i want the same Rom as i mentioned from Polaris Project, how i can edit this Rom or cook
hmm.. not for the faint hearted cooking roms.. be interested to see how you go.
First things first - BACKUP EVERYTHING!
i am sorry for that .
to edit a rom needs some software .
i read the way to edit rom in a china form ,the softwares are in chinese.
i don;t know where to find the english verson
Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
ebautista said:
Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Integrated Manila 2D into cooked ROM is surely a better solution, however most people prefer a clean ROM. Beside due to limitation of the flash size (32MB i think), it would requires to remove lots of even basic application come with the ROM.
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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krishan2207 said:
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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exactly...
M2D cooked in
I'v tryed to fit "M2D" in a cooked ROM you can get the main files in there' But not enough of the image files, I also did some test builds "without" the calc, media player,dialer,and commManager skins, And Flashed them from "ExtROM" as Themes It Seamed to Work fine But you would still Be adding A large number of files Via ExtROM so not much to be gained (can't say It was any different speed wise)
My origonal Idear was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
So If you fancy a try and some people are intrested in making some Skins then I'll cook My New V3 and working version of M2D into a "ROM" With all Skins Removed and Post it with One Full Set of Skins in CAB files and folders of files for you to edit and i'll even pack some of your Themes into CABs and we'll see what Comes of it
I would like at least 5 people to be intrested in assisting with skins as I don't Have enough time to do it all
So If you would like to have a GO then you need to say SO or i'll not bother that's my offer regards
swampy395
I think it is a great idea, manila2 in a cab with no skin, and the default skin in a separate .cab so we can replace and tinker with it at leisure
I am in to give a hand!
Ok people think about it just for a minute, Manila 2D has a size of 12 mb, with a rom of 32 mb even if it is compressed we have to cut a lot of things from main rom to make this possible, and the the stupid questions will come, why this or that not work. Thats why i am working on a proper kitchen so the people can choose whatever packages they want in rom and make it themself. So if the rom does not boot or has audio video formats problems or software compatiblity problems this will be the builder configuration fault not mine or any other rom cooker.
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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My original Idea was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
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Well this is good as idea(i mean the complete customization from cabs and saving space from the skins in the rom area) but you have to make manila not to load on startup because without skin it will just crash and you will have to reset, and there will be infinite loop ...
xplode said:
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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I would love to give this a try, but I don't know enough about the interdependencies of the root packages to build a reliable options.XML file. Could you post a list of the diff packages that are part of the ROM with a notation of which are required, which are nice to have and which can be left out? If you do, then I will try to build an Options.xml file and post it for testing with your kitchen.
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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you cooked it in rom or what ?
No, I haven´t gone yet for cooking, I just tinkered with the .cab files in the ExtROM folder.
See my separate thread for details
Themes
Hi guys
NO fighting
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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Hi guys
NO fighting
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Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
swampy395 said:
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
motisu said:
Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
Swampy, if you cook my modded M2D you will have some 100Kb more to play with in the first place...
Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
Swampy, but there is an alternative to Windows media player,
Mplayer, a 4megs cab. Supports many formats, it is lean and a standard in Linux (available for Windows Mobile)
Download MPlayer for Windows Mobile
You could remove everything to do with windows media player and put them on a .cab, then give users a choice; windows media.cab or mplayer.cab
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
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Sorry, but I'm still not following you. In the first post of your 20275 thread and in your sig, you have a M2D version. If this isn't the M2d in ROM version, then what is it? If all that you did was leave out the today plugins, what did you use the extra ROM space for? Also, I never use WMP as almost any other player is far better IMHO (Coreplayer, S2P, Tcpmp,Mortplayer, Etc.) If I don't use it, will I still need its support for diff file types?
Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
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I agree with gloomyboy. Since there are SO MANY differnt app/utilities that more or less do the same thing, it stands to reason that everybody will have their own preferences. If someone could build a kitchen that really allows you to pick and choose what goes into the ROM, everybody could custom tailor their ROM for what they really use. Unfortunately, AFAIK, all of the kitchens available today only allow periferal change and not major systems changes. I don't know why, maybe it is just my lack of understanding of the core requirements of a ROM and it can't be done any other way. But I can allways wish....
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Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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OK, now I get it. I do that myself with my own home grown EXTROM based more or less on Xplode's new release of M2D with all sorts of shortcuts and config files being copied from my SD card into memory. I am constantly changing my cfg.txt file to include newer versions and getting rid of apps and utilities that I find that I don't use. I think that the ROM should contain all the permanent stuff that will fit and I can't function without.