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I`m searching for a very small ROM for my German XDA mini.
As I have a new phone now i would use my Magician only for Navi with a bluetooth gps-receiver so I need a ROM only with WM2003, Bluetooth and a Tool to see the actual Power-Status on the Home-Screen.
I also would make the minimal Settings, for Example PowerSave.
Not needed are all the Mobile Office and GSM Features.
It`s not absolutely needed that the ROM is in German and I hope there is anyone who can help me.
thx & greatz,
mobi
Just install a German 1.13 ROM without an Extended ROM. I would suggest a 1.13 ROM with Bigstorage since you get more free RAM.
Check this sticky on how to upgrade: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247994
Regards,
Keeper
I think this would be a solution to get more free ram, but with this there are still too much tools (mobile office, ...) on the magician I`ll never need.
So is there also another solution (ROM) with the minimum I need ?
I think that you're a little bit confused...all tools are installed via Extended ROM. There's no "mobile office" or any other tool on the Windows Mobile 2003 SE himself, except the Operating system tools (which you shouldn't remove). So, unless you want to start removing the system files (alarm clock, battery manager, wallpapers, etc) there's not much else what you can strip out from a standard ROM...
I think that you should start reading the link that i pointed you...
Q: Why do you need to strip out everything? Ain't 57mb enough for storing and running your Navi program
If it ain't enough then you should consider buying a new pda like the TYTYN II...(256mb rom; 128 ram).
Keeper
which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
Why not try them and see?
So many people come on here looking to be spoon fed...people will tolerate it up to a point, but then wont bother.
You really should try them yourself and test them...try reading through the relevant threads and see what people are saying about them.
they all are... tried and tested by many....
some have bugs(unsupported features)
and you can find all of them in this forum.
it only depends on what you install on them.
i hv tried all and think that the clean version of wm6.1(6.1.02 DVH) without Ramdisk is best cause it has both the netcf and office(excel+word) and also the mystrious theme for media player. All other version either hv the netcf or the office and the version without netcf requires the netcf to run their primary applictions (GettingStarted, calc, usb hdd, etc.) so u hv to loose ur 5mb to run them.
In clean version gettingStarted is removed to put office as it is more important.
So give it a chance u will find it worth.
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which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
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it seems you have a lot of pocketpc's. is the blue angel one of them? you cannot use a ROM not intended for your device.
i only have a BA and 575 SP.
sorry for asking, i'm too busy now with work.
i also like wm6.1 without ramdisk, but i'm confuse with the extrom they're talking about.
do i really have to install extrom?
and is there a way to put all installed programs and contacts, messages to storage card?
thanks for your big HELP.
hi
i have siemens sx66 & i tried several roms from here but all roms says that this rom is not for this device.
please help
thanks
jrguy8 said:
i only have a BA and 575 SP.
sorry for asking, i'm too busy now with work.
i also like wm6.1 without ramdisk, but i'm confuse with the extrom they're talking about.
do i really have to install extrom?
and is there a way to put all installed programs and contacts, messages to storage card?
thanks for your big HELP.
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you can opt NOT to install extrom. just don't copy the folder (and its contents) to your storage card, so it won't install when you upgrade ROM's.
i'm not sure if you can copy all programs to the storage card, so you can put them back when you upgrade.
a) if you have exe files, then it is ok.
b) but if these programs came from cab files, then you can use the EXTROM to install these straightaway. or you can install them one by one
c) otherwise, you have to install them from your computer.
with respect to contacts and messages, this post is your answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1189061&postcount=1
i have pda2k, which has 128 ram and 64mb rom (accdg to gsmarena). is extrom already included in the 64mb rom? the xdaIIs has 96mb rom (44mb available).
the extrom folder from the sd has cab files which is to be installed automatically when you upgrade your rom, is that it?
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which wm6/6.1 release is more stable?
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Simple: The ones without any additional cruft, bling, or dancing monkeys added.
Remember - most if not all of these ROMs are based on the same fundamental base (barring the fakes, or hacks). It's generally only what the ROM chefs personally want to have added which makes the difference. And even those things can be 'fixed' or overwritten with installers/CABs.
I've had my philosophical 'rant' already ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1973631&postcount=2
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i have pda2k, which has 128 ram and 64mb rom (accdg to gsmarena). is extrom already included in the 64mb rom? the xdaIIs has 96mb rom (44mb available).
the extrom folder from the sd has cab files which is to be installed automatically when you upgrade your rom, is that it?
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i think u should check the wiki first.
Storage(60)-Storage available (44)=Extendedrom(16)
so u dont hv 96mb its 60 mb only. and before upgrading do not forget to merge extended rom to available storage to get more space.
thanks for correcting me.
i also read about page pool, i think the ext rom is used for that, does it really improved performance?
how can i backup and reinstall my original rom?
the_scotsman said:
Why not try them and see?
So many people come on here looking to be spoon fed...people will tolerate it up to a point, but then wont bother.
You really should try them yourself and test them...try reading through the relevant threads and see what people are saying about them.
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I've tried many WM6 and WM6.1 but can't find one of the best. And
there are more to come. So help me find one of the most stable and best WM6 or WM6.1.
Thanks B4H.
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
Custom ROMs are usually a lot more stable and perform much better in different aspects. There are programs for almost anything, you just need to search for them
Dmarsh508 said:
I just recently got his phone and i was wondering What is a rom, what does it do and how do you get a new one. What would be the point of getting a new one?
I also was wondering if anybody had any great freeware that combined a bunch of programs into one. Im looking for a simple battery meter (im using LvmTopBat)
I need a program for AIM other than octro talk, I Also need one for threaded messaging. I was using Palm_threaded_SMS but it had some glitches on my phone. I was usuing Minimo but it seemed to freeze alot so does anybody know of any good tabbed browing web browsers? i also wanted a program to free up any unused memory on my phone. Is Oxios Memory anygood?
And if anybody has used UI Tweaker Could anyone explain to me what each selection so i know what im changing the color of. Thanks for any help i get.
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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if you install the latest DCD rom 3.2.5 and radio 3.42.50... you will have threaded SMS. It also allows you to use the internal GPS. Go to the upgrades forum... and READ! The WIKI on how to is in my signature as well as links to the latest rom and radio. Good luck!
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the wki how to link does not seem to work and i read a bit about this new rom and multiple people have said its slower than stock. also what is rev-a. does that have something to do with free tethering? sorry if this is a stupid question. Im just really new to all this.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
The kitchen is used to cook the ROM. The ROM is what you install on the device. First install hardspl on the device and then run the ROM of your liking. After the flash, be sure to perform a hard reset.
Dmarsh508 said:
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
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This wiki... Titan Recent should explain it all. It is step by step. The only thing you may have to substitute... if it hasn't been updated is the correct files. IE... 3.42.50 radio... and 3.2.5 rom. The kitchen allows you to select different programs that DCD didn't include in the ROM. If you download the kitchen, you can leave it alone... run BuildNB.bat and just "Play" that... and it will work the same as the ROM that DCD made for everyone to use.
also what is the differnce between the rom and the kitchen. I notice there are two downloads. if anybody has the time or can tell me how to do it real quick i would just like a step by step on how to install this rom. Do i need to do a hard reset?
sorry bout the double post
ok im stuck on the bootloader mode. after i updated to SPL-2.40.olipro i am stuck what do i do?!?
Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Integrated Manila 2D into cooked ROM is surely a better solution, however most people prefer a clean ROM. Beside due to limitation of the flash size (32MB i think), it would requires to remove lots of even basic application come with the ROM.
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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krishan2207 said:
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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exactly...
M2D cooked in
I'v tryed to fit "M2D" in a cooked ROM you can get the main files in there' But not enough of the image files, I also did some test builds "without" the calc, media player,dialer,and commManager skins, And Flashed them from "ExtROM" as Themes It Seamed to Work fine But you would still Be adding A large number of files Via ExtROM so not much to be gained (can't say It was any different speed wise)
My origonal Idear was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
So If you fancy a try and some people are intrested in making some Skins then I'll cook My New V3 and working version of M2D into a "ROM" With all Skins Removed and Post it with One Full Set of Skins in CAB files and folders of files for you to edit and i'll even pack some of your Themes into CABs and we'll see what Comes of it
I would like at least 5 people to be intrested in assisting with skins as I don't Have enough time to do it all
So If you would like to have a GO then you need to say SO or i'll not bother that's my offer regards
swampy395
I think it is a great idea, manila2 in a cab with no skin, and the default skin in a separate .cab so we can replace and tinker with it at leisure
I am in to give a hand!
Ok people think about it just for a minute, Manila 2D has a size of 12 mb, with a rom of 32 mb even if it is compressed we have to cut a lot of things from main rom to make this possible, and the the stupid questions will come, why this or that not work. Thats why i am working on a proper kitchen so the people can choose whatever packages they want in rom and make it themself. So if the rom does not boot or has audio video formats problems or software compatiblity problems this will be the builder configuration fault not mine or any other rom cooker.
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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My original Idea was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
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Well this is good as idea(i mean the complete customization from cabs and saving space from the skins in the rom area) but you have to make manila not to load on startup because without skin it will just crash and you will have to reset, and there will be infinite loop ...
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Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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I would love to give this a try, but I don't know enough about the interdependencies of the root packages to build a reliable options.XML file. Could you post a list of the diff packages that are part of the ROM with a notation of which are required, which are nice to have and which can be left out? If you do, then I will try to build an Options.xml file and post it for testing with your kitchen.
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
gloomyboy said:
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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you cooked it in rom or what ?
No, I haven´t gone yet for cooking, I just tinkered with the .cab files in the ExtROM folder.
See my separate thread for details
Themes
Hi guys
NO fighting
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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Hi guys
NO fighting
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Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
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As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
motisu said:
Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
Swampy, if you cook my modded M2D you will have some 100Kb more to play with in the first place...
Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
Swampy, but there is an alternative to Windows media player,
Mplayer, a 4megs cab. Supports many formats, it is lean and a standard in Linux (available for Windows Mobile)
Download MPlayer for Windows Mobile
You could remove everything to do with windows media player and put them on a .cab, then give users a choice; windows media.cab or mplayer.cab
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
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Sorry, but I'm still not following you. In the first post of your 20275 thread and in your sig, you have a M2D version. If this isn't the M2d in ROM version, then what is it? If all that you did was leave out the today plugins, what did you use the extra ROM space for? Also, I never use WMP as almost any other player is far better IMHO (Coreplayer, S2P, Tcpmp,Mortplayer, Etc.) If I don't use it, will I still need its support for diff file types?
Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
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I agree with gloomyboy. Since there are SO MANY differnt app/utilities that more or less do the same thing, it stands to reason that everybody will have their own preferences. If someone could build a kitchen that really allows you to pick and choose what goes into the ROM, everybody could custom tailor their ROM for what they really use. Unfortunately, AFAIK, all of the kitchens available today only allow periferal change and not major systems changes. I don't know why, maybe it is just my lack of understanding of the core requirements of a ROM and it can't be done any other way. But I can allways wish....
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Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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OK, now I get it. I do that myself with my own home grown EXTROM based more or less on Xplode's new release of M2D with all sorts of shortcuts and config files being copied from my SD card into memory. I am constantly changing my cfg.txt file to include newer versions and getting rid of apps and utilities that I find that I don't use. I think that the ROM should contain all the permanent stuff that will fit and I can't function without.
i tried some roms. now i am trying energy roms.
i don't use a lot of cooked programs and manila tabs. these programs cannot be removed.
is possible to create rom that user can customize after hard reset? after 1st boot, system could ask me which programs and manila tabs want to be installed. so user can choose between light or rich rom, depending on his taste.
for cookers: is a realizable idea or not?
thanks
ucarcamagno said:
i tried some roms. now i am trying energy roms.
i don't use a lot of cooked programs and manila tabs. these programs cannot be removed.
is possible to create rom that user can customize after hard reset? after 1st boot, system could ask me which programs and manila tabs want to be installed. so user can choose between light or rich rom, depending on his taste.
for cookers: is a realizable idea or not?
thanks
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everything is possible, but to develop this would take many MANY hours and probably you will be a master chef yourself before this would happened. cooking or learning how will give you the option to cook a rom after your taste
ucarcamagno said:
i tried some roms. now i am trying energy roms.
i don't use a lot of cooked programs and manila tabs. these programs cannot be removed.
is possible to create rom that user can customize after hard reset? after 1st boot, system could ask me which programs and manila tabs want to be installed. so user can choose between light or rich rom, depending on his taste.
for cookers: is a realizable idea or not?
thanks
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nice question , i want to know this too...