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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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Integrated Manila 2D into cooked ROM is surely a better solution, however most people prefer a clean ROM. Beside due to limitation of the flash size (32MB i think), it would requires to remove lots of even basic application come with the ROM.
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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Requesting all those great Rom cookers out here to create a Rom with Manila2d in it. No, not on ExtROM but inside the ROM itself. That would be faster better and faster I think.
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krishan2207 said:
not possible due to limited 32 mb storage. even the mms is not included in any ba wm6 rom so can u think for Manila.
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exactly...
M2D cooked in
I'v tryed to fit "M2D" in a cooked ROM you can get the main files in there' But not enough of the image files, I also did some test builds "without" the calc, media player,dialer,and commManager skins, And Flashed them from "ExtROM" as Themes It Seamed to Work fine But you would still Be adding A large number of files Via ExtROM so not much to be gained (can't say It was any different speed wise)
My origonal Idear was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
So If you fancy a try and some people are intrested in making some Skins then I'll cook My New V3 and working version of M2D into a "ROM" With all Skins Removed and Post it with One Full Set of Skins in CAB files and folders of files for you to edit and i'll even pack some of your Themes into CABs and we'll see what Comes of it
I would like at least 5 people to be intrested in assisting with skins as I don't Have enough time to do it all
So If you would like to have a GO then you need to say SO or i'll not bother that's my offer regards
swampy395
I think it is a great idea, manila2 in a cab with no skin, and the default skin in a separate .cab so we can replace and tinker with it at leisure
I am in to give a hand!
Ok people think about it just for a minute, Manila 2D has a size of 12 mb, with a rom of 32 mb even if it is compressed we have to cut a lot of things from main rom to make this possible, and the the stupid questions will come, why this or that not work. Thats why i am working on a proper kitchen so the people can choose whatever packages they want in rom and make it themself. So if the rom does not boot or has audio video formats problems or software compatiblity problems this will be the builder configuration fault not mine or any other rom cooker.
Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
swampy395 said:
My original Idea was Adding skins to your device like this may, make rom's more fun and the user could change Skins From *.cab files (Themes)
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Well this is good as idea(i mean the complete customization from cabs and saving space from the skins in the rom area) but you have to make manila not to load on startup because without skin it will just crash and you will have to reset, and there will be infinite loop ...
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Also you can use my last kitchen but you need to add options.xml in OEM and SYS folder to choose the packages
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I would love to give this a try, but I don't know enough about the interdependencies of the root packages to build a reliable options.XML file. Could you post a list of the diff packages that are part of the ROM with a notation of which are required, which are nice to have and which can be left out? If you do, then I will try to build an Options.xml file and post it for testing with your kitchen.
I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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I have modded manila2d so the default skin is no more and instead one more of my liking. The resulting cab is 100KB smaller...
It boots fine
Will be posting today
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you cooked it in rom or what ?
No, I haven´t gone yet for cooking, I just tinkered with the .cab files in the ExtROM folder.
See my separate thread for details
Themes
Hi guys
NO fighting
As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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Hi guys
NO fighting
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Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
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As my previous post I did some tests and I could get enought of the M2D files in the ROM for IT to boot! and from "rom boot" to "ExtROM Finnish" it doe's not try to load M2D, first load of M2D is after the reset that Terminates ExtROM loading BUT I had to remove 'Calculator,Dialer,WM_Player skins,ring tones and some shortcut, The rom I tested for about 4 days and was as stable as any rom!, And here's a BIG "BUT" Keeping track of all the bits that are needed is a some TASK! in short it will work but it's hard work
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I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
motisu said:
Fighting???? We are all friends in here.
I can live without all of the things that you removed as I use alternates for all of them which are loaded into storage anyway and just waste the ROM space.
BUT, as you say, I don't have enough knowledge to know which parts can and can't be dumped from the core ROM. That's why I asked Xplode to make a list. If you can make some kind of list, I'm willing to try and build a suitable options file to be used with his kitchen.
Another thing. I may be slow, but I can't figure out what parts of M2D are in the ROM and what parts are being installed via CAB. I opened the M2D cab and I see that the executables are still in there. If they are in the CAB, what are you loading in the ROM?
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
Swampy, if you cook my modded M2D you will have some 100Kb more to play with in the first place...
Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
Swampy, but there is an alternative to Windows media player,
Mplayer, a 4megs cab. Supports many formats, it is lean and a standard in Linux (available for Windows Mobile)
Download MPlayer for Windows Mobile
You could remove everything to do with windows media player and put them on a .cab, then give users a choice; windows media.cab or mplayer.cab
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Hello again
I didn't publish that ROM, It was a test 'only' My M2D roms have most of the today plugins removed from rom as you don't need them, you can only have M2D plugin running!! If you remove WMP you loose so many formats 3gp etc. There are many things you can install from cab But cannot leave out thay have to go back in, The end finnished rom plus cabs is just the same size so y bother
P.S. If your useing a swampy rom then you can flash new skins from a cab
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Sorry, but I'm still not following you. In the first post of your 20275 thread and in your sig, you have a M2D version. If this isn't the M2d in ROM version, then what is it? If all that you did was leave out the today plugins, what did you use the extra ROM space for? Also, I never use WMP as almost any other player is far better IMHO (Coreplayer, S2P, Tcpmp,Mortplayer, Etc.) If I don't use it, will I still need its support for diff file types?
Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
gloomyboy said:
Now, if you zip up your ´Removed´ folder after cooking a barebones rom with M2D in rom we can help you build .cabs that would go in ExtROM an hence we would have a much more modular design
Taskmanager is a good candidate to go on a .cab, some people like one some like another. It pains me to see two installed
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I agree with gloomyboy. Since there are SO MANY differnt app/utilities that more or less do the same thing, it stands to reason that everybody will have their own preferences. If someone could build a kitchen that really allows you to pick and choose what goes into the ROM, everybody could custom tailor their ROM for what they really use. Unfortunately, AFAIK, all of the kitchens available today only allow periferal change and not major systems changes. I don't know why, maybe it is just my lack of understanding of the core requirements of a ROM and it can't be done any other way. But I can allways wish....
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Swampy´s M2D roms don´t contain M2D in the rom itself but will install it in rom from the storage card whenever you do a hard reset.
So it is basically loading the extra stuff from a custom ExtROM folder in the storage card
Of course I agree it would be better to have M2D in rom proper and say windows media player in a .cab in the ExtROM folder so it can be easily removed if you don´t want it (I certainly don´t want it)
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OK, now I get it. I do that myself with my own home grown EXTROM based more or less on Xplode's new release of M2D with all sorts of shortcuts and config files being copied from my SD card into memory. I am constantly changing my cfg.txt file to include newer versions and getting rid of apps and utilities that I find that I don't use. I think that the ROM should contain all the permanent stuff that will fit and I can't function without.
I want to flash my Elfin with any WM 6.5 ROM. But the problem is, there are a *lot* of them in the wild, and I'm confused.
In http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541886, you can see a bar at the bottom which is absent in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540. Also, in the first one, the start menu is shifted to the bottom.
I'm looking for a simple WM 6.5 ROM with the *least* modifications done to it.
Any recommendations?
Also, is WM6.5 good to use *without* M2D?
First, windows mobile 6.5 is now a very 'loose' build, which means Microsoft just works on the builds and release them as and when they like it and along the way, they work on new BETA features. Or features which do not work well.
Some of the builds have start buttons at the bottom because Microsoft changed some of the features of it (Again, its Microsoft issue).
Do be reminded that Windows Mobile Official 6.5 is not out yet.
Hmmm, thanks for the reply. I have another question.
When I hard reset my phone, M2D, and other M2D components like Audio Manager, HTC Album, Phone Canvas etc. is retained.
When I dump my rom following this guide http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom, will all that stuff be there in the backup? I.e., if I want to flash this backup, will the M2D etc be flashed with it?
If not, is there a way to backup the whole thing? I'm not talking about the apps I install. I'm talking about M2D etc. which are in my ROM since I bought it. Since they are retained even after a hard reset, I guess there must be a way to back them up along with the ROM.
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Hmmm, thanks for the reply. I have another question.
When I hard reset my phone, M2D, and other M2D components like Audio Manager, HTC Album, Phone Canvas etc. is retained.
When I dump my rom following this guide http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom, will all that stuff be there in the backup? I.e., if I want to flash this backup, will the M2D etc be flashed with it?
If not, is there a way to backup the whole thing? I'm not talking about the apps I install. I'm talking about M2D etc. which are in my ROM since I bought it. Since they are retained even after a hard reset, I guess there must be a way to back them up along with the ROM.
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evn manila is available as standalone package dude
n wm 6.5 roms
i.e. a touch of 6.5 n onyx rom r working great
stable too
dnt bother n upgrade to any higher rom
just remember to hardspl with 3.10/3.14 n enjoy amy rom here6.1/6.5
wm 6.5 wth manila
hiee
just forgot to mention
manila 2d works on wm 6.5 too
bt u wll lv it without manila
I understand M2D works standalone, but I was just thinking that would the M2D etc which is cooked into my rom be dumped when I dump my rom?
Also, can someone direct me to a guide for HSPL? I found one on this website but it's confusing.
Okay guys, I need some replies fast .
Question:
If I dump my ROM using this method (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom), then *will* the M2D, Audio Manager etc be backed up with it? I think they should, because they were 'cooked' into the ROM, i.e. if I hard reset, they are retained.
...No one?
Well, rom dumping is quite hard.
What? This (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Elf_HowtoDumpRom) process was pretty simple. But do you know the answer to my question?
If I dump my ROM using this method (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index...f_HowtoDumpRom), then *will* the M2D, Audio Manager etc be backed up with it? I think they should, because they were 'cooked' into the ROM, i.e. if I hard reset, they are retained.
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cyanide911 said:
I want to flash my Elfin with any WM 6.5 ROM. But the problem is, there are a *lot* of them in the wild, and I'm confused.
In http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541886, you can see a bar at the bottom which is absent in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540. Also, in the first one, the start menu is shifted to the bottom.
I'm looking for a simple WM 6.5 ROM with the *least* modifications done to it.
Any recommendations?
Also, is WM6.5 good to use *without* M2D?
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If you want to do the right thing do it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426540
I've installed in my ELF and works very well!!!!
I recently got my Touch Pro 2, and love the device. However I'm still on T-Mobile 6.1 ROM, and waiting for their 6.5 update.
There are many custom tabs/screens for Manila on this forum. Is it possible to use them on this stock ROM? Or I must switch to a cooked one?
U going to have to swith to a custom rom. its best if you get your roms from thewingster.com
I guess flashing custom roms invalidates my warranty.
Thanks anyways, I might try it when I have a little more courage.
Don't listen to him, you don't need a custom ROM to customize TF3D. I use the stock ROM and I have switched wallpapers, clocks, taskbar icons, slider icons, lock screen and more. Tons of stuff you can do with stock ROM!
Here's an example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493011
EDIT: Just search a bit here and places like PPCGeeks etc, you can find tons of stuff. Most of the CABs from this forum (Rhodium > Rhodium themes, applications and software) work with the stock ROM. Just be sure to check which Manila / WM version they are made for. There are also many to be found in other categories here at XDA, and also you can google them.
mhurg said:
Don't listen to him, you don't need a custom ROM to customize TF3D. I use the stock ROM and I have switched wallpapers, clocks, taskbar icons, slider icons, lock screen and more. Tons of stuff you can do with stock ROM!
Here's an example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493011
EDIT: Just search a bit here and places like PPCGeeks etc, you can find tons of stuff. Most of the CABs from this forum (Rhodium > Rhodium themes, applications and software) work with the stock ROM. Just be sure to check which Manila / WM version they are made for. There are also many to be found in other categories here at XDA, and also you can google them.
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Thanks a lot. That link looks very promising, I'll try it as soon as possible.
Ditto, I was going to say the same thing. It's not like your manila files are locked in stock ROMs. So you can manipulate them as you see fit.
You don't need to resort to flashing your ROM unless you want a complete different version of Manila.
Hi.
Is there any official/stock WM 6.5.x for HTC Leo?
I've seen those cooked "home-made" ROMs but I want it "stock" just so I can install it on my Leo.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi.
Is there any official/stock WM 6.5.x for HTC Leo?
I've seen those cooked "home-made" ROMs but I want it "stock" just so I can install it on my Leo.
Thanks in advance!
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The short answer is "no".
There is no stock ROM for the HD2 that runs WM6.5.X. If you want to have this OS on your phone you will have no choice to run one of the many custom ROMS or build your own. At least for now..
Hmm, thanks for the fast answer
I hope the stock version will be available soon, or will it?
Rather sad that we haven't got one yet.
It has been out since Oct 09.
I looked through 3-4 pages here, but most of the cookers have changed most of the icons added and removed stuff. I don't link this kind of things, so I'm staying with 6.5 :/
I hope 6.5.x STOCK come out for Leo soon!
Artemis ROM Project
Tunay said:
I looked through 3-4 pages here, but most of the cookers have changed most of the icons added and removed stuff. I don't link this kind of things, so I'm staying with 6.5 :/
I hope 6.5.x STOCK come out for Leo soon!
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Hello dude!
You like the "stock ROM philosopy" right?!
So take a look on Artemis Project, from sir Sternas: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
In my opinion is the most close to Stock ROMS for now and ever!
The roms uses the newest packages from HTC and latest WindowsMobile builds.
And the best of all, is fast and stable!
Sir Sternas does not change icons or includes modifications on his work, he let the user chose it!
Cheers!
digao100nocao said:
Hello dude!
You like the "stock ROM philosopy" right?!
So take a look on Artemis Project, from sir Sternas: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
In my opinion is the most close to Stock ROMS for now and ever!
The roms uses the newest packages from HTC and latest WindowsMobile builds.
And the best of all, is fast and stable!
Sir Sternas does not change icons or includes modifications on his work, he let the user chose it!
Cheers!
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The softkey bar in Artemis is ugly though.
go for this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699724
if you want a truly complete stock look
Digao is correct, Artemis is the more close to stock.
Also the softkey bar is the STOCK 6.5.X.
If you want nicer buttons or icons, you can always add them.
They are simple cabs (btw Artemis includes many themes to choose for the buttons).
John, NRG makes great ROMs but faaaaaaaaaaaaaar from stock philosophy.
It is not what Tunay asked.
NLS said:
Digao is correct, Artemis is the more close to stock.
Also the softkey bar is the STOCK 6.5.X.
If you want nicer buttons or icons, you can always add them.
They are simple cabs (btw Artemis includes many themes to choose for the buttons).
John, NRG makes great ROMs but faaaaaaaaaaaaaar from stock philosophy.
It is not what Tunay asked.
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NRGZ has started reference ROms which are close to stock roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699724
if you are looking stock look i have to say there are a few to consider.
one of the closer ones is Dutty's, Miri also had a stock look last time i looked.
i ended up making my own though as they wern't quite what i wanted
there are plenty of tutorials and pre stocked kitchen options if you want to try and there are plenty of people who would help if you get stuck
regards
Chris
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Hmm, thanks for the fast answer
I hope the stock version will be available soon, or will it?
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Why don't you want to run one of the cooked roms? There are so many available I can't see at least one catering for your taste.
You will never see 6.5.x on the Leo in an official capacity.
With respect to all ROM chefs, I don't use Sense and therefore there is no need to have it even loaded. Pure WM and nothing extra.
Someone mentioned that there is the 6.5 stock, I couldn't find it, anyone with any reference to it?
Thank you
Nimche said:
With respect to all ROM chefs, I don't use Sense and therefore there is no need to have it even loaded. Pure WM and nothing extra.
Someone mentioned that there is the 6.5 stock, I couldn't find it, anyone with any reference to it?
Thank you
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That makes no sense (excuse the pun) as there are numerous cooked roms without Sense included to free up extra memory. There are no stock Leo roms that can say the same to my knowledge - they all include it.
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Is it possible to take a cooked rom (Energy, Mozart etc. a.e. for htc topaz), load in a kitchen, remove apps that don't work, themes and so on and export as a new custom rom? Is there a specific kitchen to do that?
I'm a newbie with a legacy device (HTC Topaz) and see that the roms with updated packages and kernel are made by chefs that do not have the device for testing so there are a few bugs and old apps that have to be removed but these chefs are mass cookers, they have there lives and don't have time to stand behing theyr dishes, especially for those that differ from theyr native language.
My intentio was to load a Energy Rom in Italian with cht, remove all themes, unworking and useless apps (or to solve some bugs) etc.
Thanks
sb
This has been asked a billion times; you can dump a cooked rom with micro-kitchen, and re-cook it somewhat. You'll need to figure out how to set the kitchen up for your device, if you decide to use it. Da_G says that the kitchen will re-base modules without the reloc sections; others disagree-I've never done it myself. If you're just removing stuff, the kitchen should work fine, but you'll have to know what to remove. Someone will post shortly and say that you can't re-cook cooked roms. It isn't true. Gsleon3 has re-cooked roms, I guess mostly to lighten them up. Here's one of his threads.
hi
can any one help me with this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12570132#post12570132
some cooked rom does not make da sys folder why?