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Hi All,
Thanks for all the good suggestions I've got from this site over the last couple of days. I have a new problem for you now...
I see from searching this site that loads of people have had problems using the XDA / XDA II as a wireless modem, but I can't piece together quite what I have to do to get it working with bluetooth.
I've got the pdf from the o2 site, but it's not very clear, and I think it's targeted to W2000 not XP, which is what I have.
SO..... Would somebody be kind enough to let us all know what the step-by step process is to get a laptop, for example, talking to the internet via the XDA II, via BLUETOOTH.
I have the latest o2 ROM, so I have those 2 new check boxes in Bluetooth settings. Most of the laptop setup is ok, but I think the major question is regarding the ports.....
Which port is the XDA talking on?
Which port is the laptop talking on?
How do I make them talk to each other?
And to add to this question - the o2 pdf presumably gives instructions such that we end up using the GPRS line. Can this be modified to use the cellular line to dial up a standard ISP so I can use up some of my free minutes (that's what I do when surfing on the XDA II)?
Sorry it's a bit waffly - PLEASE help! Thanks very much!
Phil
www.o2.co.uk/xda
Under the Bonnet
User Guides
Oddly enough, a file called Using Xda II as a Modem.
Worked for me.
Oddly enough... that's the pdf I'm talking about.
It's not very clear about the COM ports - it says to select the "correct COM port for your connection", so the bit I'm asking about is how to decide upon or determine which is the correct com port for my connection. The important issue here is the bluetooth communication.
It's step-by-step modem and connection guide is also incorrect for XP (mine anyway - as I said, I suspect it's written for 2000, not 2000/XP), so there could be errors in my modem setup - I need to make sure that's not the case as well.
Any more ideas?
OK - let me put this another way - Before pressing connect on the WModem program on the XDA II, do you have to setup a bluetooth serial connection to the PC? If so, HOW? How do you simply make the connection?
Please help - somebody?
Thanks,
Phil
Just to make sure we are on the same document
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
You first install your bluetooth adapter on your PC and this should install a bluetooth modem on your PC. You then configure that as described in the first section "Desktop setting:" make sure you change the word internet with your service providors APN in the advanced setting string.
Thats your PC side finished for now. no connections made yet.
Ok on to the XDA II, follow the instructions in the next section "Getting Start:" Steps 1 - 6 are all on your XDA II. Now it is waiting to be a modem. Move to your PC and follow the rest of the steps and you hsould get connected.
I used the O2 free WAP APN for my connections when i set it up. This meant having to set the proxy in IE just as you do on the XDA II if you want to browse. This gives limited function for anything other than browsing but for free thats fine for me.
I have not yet tested an ISP using this method but it will be a matter of removing the advanced string in the modem settings and using your ISP details and phone number in the dial pop up instead of *99#. I have done this before with my old nokia 7650.
Also remember if dialing into an ISP like that instead you will only get 9600 baud rate as opposed to the 42k odd that GPRS will give you. However this is fine for most light emails and IMs etc.
Oh and i did bond the 2 devices first. i nearly forgot that.
I Hope this helps you get sorted.
It works fine for GPRS. However when I try to connect to an ISP, I get a "line is busy" message. Any clues?
Dingo - you're great. That's got it.
The pdf that's on the user guide section of 'under the bonnet' section in the XDA site is
http://smsgen.o2-uktech.com/xda2/Xda_II_Modem_Setup_Guide.pdf
which is NAFF!
Your instructions are much better!
I'll try the ISP method soon - I'll let you know if it works.
Cheers!
Phil
OK - looks like I've got the ISP method working.
The process on the XDA is identical, but the modem settings are slightly different. The extra initialisation string can be done away with, and in the security tab of the connection (in network connections) "typical" must be selected rather than "advanced".
Other than that, it's all the sam, for me at least. I use UK2 as my ISP. It's very handy - no registration required.
Hope this helps.
Phil
ISP works for me too. I had to change in CSD line type the data rate to 9600 bps(v.32).
Being used to ADSL, 9600 bps brings back memories
Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread - it's helped me connect my laptop to the net thru my XDA2 over bluetooth for the first time!
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone might clear up for me:
1. I've used "mobile.o2.co.uk" in the init string and dialled with *99# which works but the XDA doesn't show any change to the connection icon. Is it using GPRS or data over voice or magic?!
2. Although web and mail downloads works great, I can't send email - I get it returned saying '550 relay not permitted'. A port issue I guess? Can that be solved?
Thanks for your time - keep up the good work.
Andy.
I'm just so excited I had to post, I got my Powerbook (OSX 10.4) and my XDA Exec working together, the Exec as a Bluettoth modem thru O2
SO now I am able to browse the web/get emails on my Powerbook using the EXEC as a GPRS/3G modem .. Anywhere
All I had to do was:
1 - Flash be bios with the Jasjar one (??) (I had done this before, I dont know if it works with the O2 bios, I will assume it will)
2 - On EXEC, start Bluettoth and make it discoverable, run "Wireless modem" under programs .. enable Bluettoth modem in "Wireless Modem"
3 - on Powerbook, Setup a new Bluetooth device, choose "any device" . it will find the Jasjar/Exec .. pair them.
4 - On PB, go to "internet connect" .. click on bluettoth, create a new config with:
Description: O2 Web
Tel. Number: *99#
user: mobileweb
passwd: password
modem: au cdmaOne Bluetooth adapter
then just click "connect" and your on the web (well, at least I am)
good luck
Null
I can confirm it's working with DOPOD 900 chinese rom with HongKong Sunday GPRS.
The problem of MAC can't connect with old version of wireless modem (e.g. wireless modem on XDA Mini) is because there is no option to set the gprs AP, however, it is avalible in unverisal's wireless modem application.
Moreover , au cdmaone bluetooth adaptor is the only working modem setting with universal.
I am looking for this solution since a got my Powerbook G4! Thanks!!!!!!
I've got it working with my powerbook as well on tmobile US over GPRS. Really wish we had UMTS available over here :-( It was actually much easier to get working with my QTEK 9000 than with the PDA2k. There is a secret to getting older ones to work though in 10.4 You need to get a copy of the bluetooth serial utility which allows you to create ports, and then you use GPRS modem scripts and completely circumvent the wireless modem software on the phone itself. If anybody needs the bluetooth app (it came iwth older versions of os X but not X.4) or the scripts, lemme know
Im guessing this just charges it to your bill at what ever rate you pay per meg yeh?
could be useful in an emergency but not for playing about on.
JAmes
jamfitz86 said:
Im guessing this just charges it to your bill at what ever rate you pay per meg yeh?
could be useful in an emergency but not for playing about on.
JAmes
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i dunno about where you are mate but here in Hong Kong we got two operators with unlimited GPRS plans for HK$128 a month. i'm on the Sunday one (as mentioned above with the Powerbook dude, i'm gonna try it on my dad's powerbook tonight too) and there's another operator called Peoples that offers the same thing.
that's like 13 euros a month, or 16USD...somewhere around that figure.
i'm sure there's something similar in other parts of the world too~
I tried this on my tmobile MDA and it worked perfectly right away. I didn't have to change roms or anything like that.
Hi to all , i'm a new user of TYTN .
I always use it as a modem to surf the web via BT in conjunction with my laptop.
My question is : there is a way to defaul the wireless modem to BT ( it default to usb ) when start the program and ( maybe ) the program starts automatically without select MENU>START....
ALSO : i saw that the internal modem work also when the device is into sleep mode and without starting the wireless modem but in this case the connection hang after few minutes ( i think the BT connection to the PC hang ).
If the device is in active state the internal modem work too and fine but if no data is exchanged for a while the device goes to sleep without advice then connection hang.
No problem using the wireless modem .
Again ... there is a way to add the internet sharing via PAN BT like hermes' brothers ( P3600) ???
thx in advance
Greeting from Italy
Davide
I'm having the same problem, also in Italy on TIM. I have tried two different SIM cards, different data plans, and can not find any pattern to the disonnects. If the connection sits idle, it will suddenly stop passing traffic. I have at times been able to keep the connection active by running a game (WoW) in the background on my laptop, but as soon as I the game quits due to timeout (not playing), the connection gets "stale" and dies. Other times, the game will not keep the connection active either. The time it stays active is inconsistent as well. Sometimes when I connect, I get no received packets, only sent. If I disconnect/reconnect 4 or 5 times, usually I will get a good connect and be able to open a web page. I do find it is worse in the daytime than in the evenings, but this is not always true.
BTW, I'm on a TyTn, MacBook Pro w/ the modem script linked from the wiki.
Any ideas?
@ jcolley :
i don't know about macbook , but a problem like your appear on micro$oft XP with the built in bluetooth stack .... much more better use the widcomm stack or toshiba stack for bluetooth
vdavide said:
Again ... there is a way to add the internet sharing via PAN BT like hermes' brothers ( P3600) ???
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Nope, as there still isn't an AKU3 ROM for the TyTN.
As far as disconnection problems are concerned, try using a desktop-based ping utility to keep up the connection.
Menneisyys said:
Nope, as there still isn't an AKU3 ROM for the TyTN.
As far as disconnection problems are concerned, try using a desktop-based ping utility to keep up the connection.
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OK , but i mean if there is an apps to do this .
BTW does AKU 3.3 support more than 1 pc connected to inte rnet trought PAN BT ?
thx.
Vdavide
Hello, downloaded many great ROMS from the site and have just 1 ickle issue with WM6
Have a Artemis (MDA Compact III) and a Elf (MDA Touch) both running Windows mobile 6. My artmeis is using tomtom and unable to get live updates / traffic reports as the simcard slot is buggered so no GPRS connection. So Idea was too use my Elf to share the connection via GPRS using BT but no luck. Tried the BT DUN cab which did show DUN as a service on my Artemis. Added a new network connection setting, dial up as *99# but nothing is happening when launching a webpage - shows dialing *99# but connection keeps failing.
Hope someone can help
At the risk of sounding silly, the o2 orbit has a 2 year warranty, would it be possible just to get it replaced in an o2 store? (I don't think they've been out 2 years yet?)
handset not faulty ...this is due to the device no longer providing D.U.N as a service due to it being WM6 - basically I need to share my internet connection from 1 PDA to another
doesn't DUN require an active sim card to work tho?
saying that, i just had a quick look and i can make a new connection and select bluetooth as the modem type, unfourtantly i don't have another pda to try, but if its paired with another device would you be able to use the modem on the other device? or is that what you've been trying to do?
I only suggested the warranty as you mentioned the sim card slot was buggered, didn't mean to sound sarcastic! also was about to suggest wifi as an option but then realised that mda compact doesn't have wifi ...
Have you tried this ? I use it to access the web with a WM2003SE device to a WM6 device via bluetooth. I tried all of the other suggested methods/hacks and this is the only thing that works for me.
Hrmm i've been trying to play a multiplayer game via bluetooth with wm6 and found it impossible, is it possible to create a serial connection between to wm6 phones?
not sure if its a simular problem, just reading thru that thread now thanks
Problem is simple - have 2 wm6 devices, MDA Compact III has GPS which I use for TOMTOM but use my simcard in the touch as my phone (prefer to use it for making calls etc), Dont want to keep swapping my sim just to get traffic updates ...
I have a GPRS connection on my old (untrusty ) Sony Ericsson K700i that I want to share using bluetooth DUN. So far I managed to get it work in Windows7, openSuse 11.1 and WM2003 (widcomm stack), but it just won't work on my iPaq 614c.
I did all the logical steps:
-pair the phones over bluetooth
-select the DUN profile of my k700i
-add a new modem connection (in the My ISP section) that dials *99*# over bluetooth to my k700i
No matter what I try, it keeps telling me it can't connect (actualy, it doesn't even make a bluetooth connection to my k700i ).
Obviously, HP bundles the DUN profile with it's iPaqs, nevertheless I installed the dun cab file, but that didn't solve it either.
What to do ? What to do ?
wutske said:
I have a GPRS connection on my old (untrusty ) Sony Ericsson K700i that I want to share using bluetooth DUN. So far I managed to get it work in Windows7, openSuse 11.1 and WM2003 (widcomm stack), but it just won't work on my iPaq 614c.
I did all the logical steps:
-pair the phones over bluetooth
-select the DUN profile of my k700i
-add a new modem connection (in the My ISP section) that dials *99*# over bluetooth to my k700i
No matter what I try, it keeps telling me it can't connect (actualy, it doesn't even make a bluetooth connection to my k700i ).
Obviously, HP bundles the DUN profile with it's iPaqs, nevertheless I installed the dun cab file, but that didn't solve it either.
What to do ? What to do ?
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same problem for my 614c trying to reach my Nokia 6630.....
after some googlesearchs, i think some dll are missing, for example i cannot find where to set the modem init string needed for my french orange provider ( at+cgdcont=....)
afaik that modem string can be set somewhere in the registry.
But I don't think that's the problem since I never had to provide that info in windows, linux or wm2003.
perhaps this would help ?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4062.html
jpmatrix972 said:
perhaps this would help ?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4062.html
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hmm, the file seems to be missing, but the HP6515 seems to be using the widcomm stack so I'm not sure if it's supposed to be there.
I can't install the patch for some reason , seems like my iPaq realy doesn't want to dial in over BT
see
this andthis
xda too slow..double posted sorry
Okay, I guess I wasn't clear enough in my previous posts.
I want to share the GPRS connection on my Sony Ericsson K700i and use it on my iPaq 614c, I'll be using Bluetooth DUN for that because the old K700i doesn't support BT PAN.
My Ipaq 614c doesn't suffer from the BT DUN missing problem, the official ROM comes with BT DUN installed (at least, I can see the BT DUN service in the service list of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the problem: w of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the real problem: when I want this modem to make a connection, nothing happens. Windows Mobile doesn't initiate a bluetooth connection towards my K700i, it just shows a message that the connection has failed...
614c to ipaq 210
I am having diffulty pairing my 210 with my 614. I am trying to use my 614c as a modem in order for my 210 to connect to the internet. I can coonect to the internet just fine with my 614, I am with t-mobile/unlimited data plan. Since I am in the USA HP does not offer any support for this device(Big Surprise LOL) I have searched everywhere for a solution. I have tried using the BT Phone Manager, and I have tried to pair them them in the BT manager with the "connect to the internet via cellular phone" profile and my ipaq 210does not recognize the 614 as a "phone", but it does recognize it a "any device". If I select this option and try to pair them using this wizard I cannot get a succefull pairing after entering a passkey. I continually receive the error message that "requested service is not running on this device". Any help would be appreciated.
Thank-you
Sunday
wutske said:
Okay, I guess I wasn't clear enough in my previous posts.
I want to share the GPRS connection on my Sony Ericsson K700i and use it on my iPaq 614c, I'll be using Bluetooth DUN for that because the old K700i doesn't support BT PAN.
My Ipaq 614c doesn't suffer from the BT DUN missing problem, the official ROM comes with BT DUN installed (at least, I can see the BT DUN service in the service list of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the problem: w of my K700i), so there is no need to patch that specific problem.
When I add a new modem connection, I choose 'bluetooth' (instead of cellulare/3G, GPRS), I select my K700i and use *99*# as the number that has to be dialed).
Now comes the real problem: when I want this modem to make a connection, nothing happens. Windows Mobile doesn't initiate a bluetooth connection towards my K700i, it just shows a message that the connection has failed...
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Hi,
Correct me if I get it wrong, but are you telling us you just start your connection-shortcut like that, expecting WM to turn on your BT ? Or do you activate BT before dialing in ?
In general, if BT is running, anything you throw at it should run.
Dirk
Both with BT on and off it fails .
Doesn't realy matter anymore, the K700i is dying. The network part of the phone crashes from time to time when I use it (calls, sms, gprs, ...) after which the phone shuts itself down.
Probably going to change my main carrier from Mobistar to Mobile Vikings so I have free gprs on my iPaq ^^
iPAQ 614c as Bluetooth Modem with HP iPAQ 210
After several days of searching for an answer on how to use my iPAQ 614c phone as an access point for my iPAQ 210, I hve finally acheived success. I hope this will spare anyone who is trying to do this the countless hours of phone calls that I have made with both HP and T-Mobiles Tech Support. "Tech Support"? I beg to differ. HP 's first answer was "hardware issue" send the device in for repairs. I called back in hopes to get a different rep-I did, he was a little more helpful, after an hour or so of troubleshooting he concluded, The device was fine, what I was trying to do was not supported on all the devices(A nice thing to know, AFTER YOU BUY IT!) T-Mobile, also very nice but just unbelievably clueless, there "Tier 3" rep who after an hour or so of troubleshooting said she would "call me back" never did.
During all phone coversations with both companies I asked numerous times about trying the "BT Phone Manager" that comes on the HP iPAQ 210. The first HP rep said that, "No one really uses this, that it is just extra software that comes with the iPAQ". The 2nd HP guy said, "that was not what that is for, it is used more for if you want to transfer numbers. Like if you want to use your 210 as a phone."(I really don't have IDIOT stamped on my forehead) None of the T-Mobile reps knew what I was talking about.
Why do I share all of this information? Because confession (in this case of my own ignorance) is good for the soul.
Oh, how do you get it to work?
1 Pick up your 210
-Turn Device on
-Turn Bluetooth On
2 Start\Programs\BT Phone Manager
- Press the Connect Button
- Follow all Pairing directions in walk through (It even tells you what to do on your cell phone)
Now, if you are like me, you will want to go into the: Settings\Connections\Bluetooth (Why? Because this is what every manual, every forum, every support rep has always told you to do.) DO NOT DO THIS, it is tempting to want to try to configure your own settings, thought being that you will need them the "next Time" you try to connect to your cell phone. Well, if you mess with the settings, THERE WON'T BE A NEXT TIME! You will end up like me, wasting alot of time, patience and unnecessary hard resets(3 during 1 phone conversation with HP),trying to fix something that worked to begin with!
Hope I helped someone, and if you do not have BT Phone Manager, there are cabs floating around everywhere, I know some people don't like it, but it does work. REALLY.
Sunday