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GPRS-Connection Problems--> Solution!

Hello. Hope this helps.
I flashed my german MDA C with the imate ROM. Everything worked fine, except the connection with GPRS.
For example, when I connected to the Internet (I use the german Vodafone Provider), the connection was stable. But only for this one connection.
When I disconnected pressing the red button longer than 2 seconds, I never was able to get a new connection (Error Message, that no connection could be made by unknown causes). The only way to get out of this mess, was a Soft-Reset.
Another problem was: When receiving an MMS, there was no way to get a connection to the Internet after that (Error Message, that no connection could be made by unknown causes). Only way to get out of this, was to make another Soft-Reset.
I did the following:
Start-->Programs--> Wireless Modem-->Tools-->Options
I unchecked the "Preset GPRS Connection" (it was checked by default).
Since then.....everything works as it should
Ok, the GPRS Connection doesnt disconnect automatically after using it, but it re-connects after using the "Red-Button-Workaround".
Hope, I can help with this.
Greetings from Cologne,
Arniebirdy

thanks man i will try it i have been having problems with my gprs connection..... another thing what is "Red-Button-Workaround" ?

Hi.
The Jam, can't disconnect automatically.
With the "workaround" I meant, that you can disconnect GPRS connection by pressing the red button about two seconds.
Hope this helps.
Greetings from Cologne,
Arniebirdy

ahh thanks man... didn't know that... now i can get rid of gprs monitor...
cheers

Had the same problem, but mine mysteriously solved itself during this weekend. My wModem settings are the default.

hhmmm, yesterday...everything worked fine.
Today, I have the same error again. I post a pic of the error message. Someone any ideas ?
Greetings from Cologne,
Arniebirdy

i get the same damn message... and in addition to it... i the sginal bar goes like that ..... searching for network!!!!!!

arniebirdy:
That setting didn't help me, still getting error-message on my second connection-attempt without soft-resetting first. Using Vodafone Sweden.

still getting error-message on my second connection-attempt without soft-resetting first.
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The problem is not magician only, see this thread at Tekguru,

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I had the same problem, have made a hard reset and all he works well is always connected also after before the time. I have made the backup. Then I have modified the configurazini in order to try the wap and have modified the proxy after made the same error did not connect the second time. I have restored the backup and all it works. It must be something that wines modified in the registry when it modifies the logon formulations. I trying to understand what is the problem. Excused for my English.

Why start a new thread on this issue, when there's already a very active thread here, with what appears to be a solution?

The original thread (with what seems to possibly be the solution) can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=138916#138916
Please continue the discussion in that thread.

GPRS always auto disconnects after some time

I found a lot of posts where people ask for auto disconnect. My problem is the other way round: When I connect with GPRS after some 5 minutes or so my QTEK S200 disconnects by itself. This might be caused by the cab file MP_autoDisconnect_EnableDRM_prophetUA(AKU2.0)_060112.cab which I found in enhanced ROM?
I don't want to hard reset to see the effect this cab not beeing installed. Any ideas to help???

I have the same problem... lets see if anyone knows how to enable GPRS for longer then only 6 minutes.

I have the same problem... lets see if anyone knows how to enable GPRS for longer then only 6 minutes.

it's because of your mobile operator. i've the same sh.t here. it keeps disconnecting after 5-10 minutes and the traffic rounds up. and i have to pay more... i've a hima, my friend's SE W800 - same crap, keeps disconnecting. i'm sick of GSM networks, they're getting old and do not meet modern speed and reliability requirements. so i'm afraid we'll just have to wait until WiMAX or something else comes to replace an old man. cheers

You might wanna try this from wiki here:
If you want your GPRS (or EDGE) connection to always be on, set the following:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)
And to turn it off:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Note that |gprs connection name| will depend on the name you've given your GPRS connection
I'm on tmobile web n walk, so its a pain to wait for gprs to reconnect everytime.... I've just started using this for about a day, but looks ok so far... try it... see if its the magic ur looking for

zep said:
it's because of your mobile operator. i've the same sh.t here. it keeps disconnecting after 5-10 minutes and the traffic rounds up. and i have to pay more... i've a hima, my friend's SE W800 - same crap, keeps disconnecting. i'm sick of GSM networks, they're getting old and do not meet modern speed and reliability requirements. so i'm afraid we'll just have to wait until WiMAX or something else comes to replace an old man. cheers
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I don't think it's connected to the provider as I know enough people using the same provider where GPRS stays connected a long time. The only difference we have is the PPC. I will try jamichy's solution later this week when I will be back home. In the meantime Craic Dub - does it solve the problem on your side?

jamichy said:
You might wanna try this from wiki here:
If you want your GPRS (or EDGE) connection to always be on, set the following:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 1 (DWORD decimal)
And to turn it off:
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A38-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\|gprs connection name|\AlwaysOn = 0 (DWORD decimal)
Note that |gprs connection name| will depend on the name you've given your GPRS connection
I'm on tmobile web n walk, so its a pain to wait for gprs to reconnect everytime.... I've just started using this for about a day, but looks ok so far... try it... see if its the magic ur looking for
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O.k. I couldn't wait and tested today. Now the connection seems to stay as long as you do not stop it.
But: It connects automatically to GPRS when you connect the phone to your provider. That's not really what I wanted. In other countries this will create extreme roaming costs.
Any other idea on how to stop this auto connect? Even using phonealarm's "do not start GPRS automatically" does not help, again it starts connecting when you dial in your Phone PIN.

:?
Seems the Reg Hack is not a brilliant idea... I have setup my device to power off display after 2min... when i press power button to come out of standby, it freezes the device for abt 40 to 50 sec
Its worse when i get an incoming call, the screen is on but does not respond to touch or pressing green button...
So i changed registry back... and bingo, everythings ok again....
But now, i've found another way, a little freeware app that does all I want and more, and you get the option to choose connect gprs on boot or connect when needed... etc... take a look at:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
I'm using now, and seems ok

jamichy said:
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Seems the Reg Hack is not a brilliant idea... I have setup my device to power off display after 2min... when i press power button to come out of standby, it freezes the device for abt 40 to 50 sec
Its worse when i get an incoming call, the screen is on but does not respond to touch or pressing green button...
So i changed registry back... and bingo, everythings ok again....
But now, i've found another way, a little freeware app that does all I want and more, and you get the option to choose connect gprs on boot or connect when needed... etc... take a look at:
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
I'm using now, and seems ok
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Sounds interesting. Still difficult for me to understand what it really does:
- What means "search GPRS [G] on start radio"
- What means "start [G] on start GPRS
- What means "Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection"
Can you tell me what it does non your side? Im a startting to hesitate trying to many things. I am still not convinced of WM5 - I installed GPS pgrs monitor (on QTEK CD...) which did not work together with phone alarm. And to deinstall was the ususal WM5 hassle, only using sktools and manual deletion of a file after another soft reser I was able to remove it again

Search GPRS ON start radio=gprs connects on startup
Start G on start GPRS=gprs connects when an application needs web connection, and stays connected
Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection=default settings, connect when needed, then disconnect
Havent had the phone freeze problem, and gprs connects on startup, and stays connected... which is fine for my tariff, tmobile web n walk unlimited gprs

jamichy said:
Search GPRS ON start radio=gprs connects on startup
Start G on start GPRS=gprs connects when an application needs web connection, and stays connected
Switch GRPS always On/Off hold till for following connection=default settings, connect when needed, then disconnect
Havent had the phone freeze problem, and gprs connects on startup, and stays connected... which is fine for my tariff, tmobile web n walk unlimited gprs
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Seems to work flawlessly so far on my S200. Thanks for your help Jamichy!!
The only thing I'am still missing is EDGE in Germany... :wink:

Can't reconnect to 3G/GPRS on T-Mobile

I am a Vario II user on T-Mobile in the UK (is it healthy to love your phone?).
It connects to the Net flawlessly using either 3G or GPRS. But if I disconnect from the Net (by pressing the red phone key a couple of times - the 3G/G icons disappears) then I am unable to connect again - sometimes until I switch off my device (a "hard" switch off) or at least for several hours.
Is this normal behaviour? Should I disconnect from 3G/GPRS or just leave it connected? If I do disconnect (it saves battery life and reduces heat in the device), how do I reconnect?
Thanks in anticipation of a reply.

bobbyelliott said:
I am a Vario II user on T-Mobile in the UK (is it healthy to love your phone?).
It connects to the Net flawlessly using either 3G or GPRS. But if I disconnect from the Net (by pressing the red phone key a couple of times - the 3G/G icons disappears) then I am unable to connect again - sometimes until I switch off my device (a "hard" switch off) or at least for several hours.
Is this normal behaviour? Should I disconnect from 3G/GPRS or just leave it connected? If I do disconnect (it saves battery life and reduces heat in the device), how do I reconnect?
Thanks in anticipation of a reply.
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No, its not normal behaviour - I have a Vario II on T-Mobile UK and it connects and disconnects perfectly. Unless you have fiddled with the registry, I don't think it should be necessary to disconnect manually - there is an inactivity timeout and it will drop the connection automatically after a while.
Have you loaded any non-standard software? Before getting my Vario II, I had a T-Mobile MDA and it suffered the symptoms you describe with some non-standard diallers loaded...
Martin

The only software that I can think of is Skype (for Pocket PC) and I don't think that that's the problem. And I haven't "fiddled" with anything in the registry.
Maybe I just shouldn't disconnect from the Net and let it go down "naturally" as you say you do. This seems to drain the battery but it's preferable than being permanently disconnected.
Don't suppose there is an alternative way of resetting the comms without physically switching off my device (this always clears the problem - until the next time!).

bobbyelliott said:
The only software that I can think of is Skype (for Pocket PC) and I don't think that that's the problem. And I haven't "fiddled" with anything in the registry.
Maybe I just shouldn't disconnect from the Net and let it go down "naturally" as you say you do. This seems to drain the battery but it's preferable than being permanently disconnected.
Don't suppose there is an alternative way of resetting the comms without physically switching off my device (this always clears the problem - until the next time!).
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Well, on the few occasions I have had a connection problem, turning off the phone section via the top-right button in the communications manager and back on again has solved it...
Martin

mab981 said:
Well, on the few occasions I have had a connection problem, turning off the phone section via the top-right button in the communications manager and back on again has solved it...
Martin
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Thanks for this. I'll give it a try.
In the meantime, I've left my 3G/GPRS connection running - how long should it take before it drops "naturally"? I last used my device about 4 hours ago but it's still connected!

Hmmm, I must say that the timeout does seem much longer than it was with WM2003 on a Magician - I cannot see too much of a pattern to it, I'm afraid.
Martin

Problem solved!
I stopped all running programs - and I could disconnect and reconnect! I guess it was one of my programs. I will experiment to see which one was causing the problem. Most likely candidate is Skype. But I also regularly run Fizz Traveller, which might also cause the problem.

It's Skype
Skype is the problem. If I stop this program running I can reconnect to 3g/GPRS without problems. If I run it and try to connect - nothing. Don't know if Skype is aware of this issue?

Auto-Disconnect UMTS?

I have searched the forum for a tweak that can automatically disconnect the UMTS data after being idle for X minutes but do not see it. I only see a tweak to keep it alive. I want the opposite. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks

On most roms all you have to do is press and hold the hang up button to disconnect the data by yourself.
S.K.

silent_killa said:
On most roms all you have to do is press and hold the hang up button to disconnect the data by yourself.
S.K.
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I know that. But that is manual and tedious.
Some of my apps automatically open the data connection, so I want a way to automatically close it after it's done.

I am interested as well if someone knows of a tweak for it... When I hit the 3G area near my home, my battery goes pretty quick. On EDGE my battery life is awesome.

wimpy said:
I have searched the forum for a tweak that can automatically disconnect the UMTS data after being idle for X minutes but do not see it. I only see a tweak to keep it alive. I want the opposite. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
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There's a little program which does exactly this for GPRS. I haven't tried, but I would assume it also works for UMTS. To achieve this functionality, it just sets the value of the registry key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\CacheTimer to the idle time (in seconds) after which GPRS (and hopefully UMTS) will get disconnected.
Cheers
Daniel

tadzio said:
There's a little program which does exactly this for GPRS. I haven't tried, but I would assume it also works for UMTS. To achieve this functionality, it just sets the value of the registry key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings\CacheTimer to the idle time (in seconds) after which GPRS (and hopefully UMTS) will get disconnected.
Cheers
Daniel
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Nope, just tried that in my registry and it still doesn't disconnect.

GB-SOFT GPRS & Audio Tweak
i am running this on my universal for that purpose and it works on umts in tokyo. i haven't tried it on my hermes though as i want to keep the connection always on for my push email, but i think it should work on hermes as well. give it a shot, it's free.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm

Here's something that may or may not be useful to some. I used to think that for ease of access to webpages I would have GPRS always set to on. I did this using Tweaks2k2 under phone tricks. But this was a pest as when I wanted to use wifi the GPRS kept trying to take over.
I went back to Tweaks2k2 and unchecked GPRS always on. Now when I'm not using wifi and I go to a webpage the GPRS connects nicely but the second it's downloaded the page it instantly disconnects itself and stays off - ideal for me.
Before, enabling the continuous connection and then disabling it using Tweaks2k2, if I connected to GPRS it would stay connected until I manually turned it off again, but now it does it automatically and without delay. (I'm assuming it was THIS that has created my, as and when needed GPRS connection). Certainly saves having to set idle times etc to get it to auto shut off.
Mike

Try PhoneAlarm
It has an option to do exactly this. I use it to disconnect after 2 mins and activesync to run every 30 mins and it has improved my battery life immensely.
Rob

I think it can help you. It's very usefull and saves the battery.
It's a little C program that checks the gprs/umts connections every 2 minutes. althought the pda could be suspended the program checks the connections every two minutes. If there isnt data flow then the connection is closes.
It has 4 buttons.
DISABLE: It disables the checks. So if you are surfing the web and you dont want the program closes the connection push this button.
ENABLE: Enable the checks again.
OK: Closes de window (the program continues activated. You can open the window again tapping the little blue icon in the botton).
CLOSE: Close the program.
I recomment the put it in ROM and you should create a shortcut and put it in \windows\startup directory.

Yip, another good one to try. Thanks
Mike

mikechannon said:
Here's something that may or may not be useful to some. I used to think that for ease of access to webpages I would have GPRS always set to on. I did this using Tweaks2k2 under phone tricks. But this was a pest as when I wanted to use wifi the GPRS kept trying to take over.
I went back to Tweaks2k2 and unchecked GPRS always on. Now when I'm not using wifi and I go to a webpage the GPRS connects nicely but the second it's downloaded the page it instantly disconnects itself and stays off - ideal for me.
Before, enabling the continuous connection and then disabling it using Tweaks2k2, if I connected to GPRS it would stay connected until I manually turned it off again, but now it does it automatically and without delay. (I'm assuming it was THIS that has created my, as and when needed GPRS connection). Certainly saves having to set idle times etc to get it to auto shut off.
Mike
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Can you tell me what registry setting that modifies? I would like to have UMTS disconnect after it's done also. But do not want to install too many apps.

wimpy said:
Can you tell me what registry setting that modifies? I would like to have UMTS disconnect after it's done also. But do not want to install too many apps.
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Sorry don't know answer - maybe somebody does??
Mike

It doesnt modify any registry setting. It is a program checking the state of the ras connections each 2 minutes........ Later i will post the source code. Now i have to go.....

danielherrero said:
It doesnt modify any registry setting. It is a program checking the state of the ras connections each 2 minutes........ Later i will post the source code. Now i have to go.....
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I'm sure you are right but ever since I used Tweaks2k2 and turned the GPRS setting off the always on connection it disconnects from GPRS the second the page is downloaded. There is no wait for a period up to 2 minutes. As soon as I tap on another link to another webpage it fires up GPRS again followed by an instantaneous disconnect after page downloaded. Of course if it's caching the page the period of time it takes to display the page might be getting on for two minutes. However many pages take far less time than that - e.g. text only pages and I'm not aware of any delay in the GPRS disconnecting but I'll test this tonight.
Bottom line is this works for me, but as there seem to be, according to posts above, lots of applications to power the GPRS on and off (and stay off until it's needed), then presumably we are all happy now??
Mike

harryk1372 said:
i am running this on my universal for that purpose and it works on umts in tokyo. i haven't tried it on my hermes though as i want to keep the connection always on for my push email, but i think it should work on hermes as well. give it a shot, it's free.
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
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Do you know which registry key it modifies? I rather manually edit the registry setting then install this program for that sole purpose.
thanks

wimpy said:
Do you know which registry key it modifies? I rather manually edit the registry setting then install this program for that sole purpose.
thanks
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That is the program I linked to in the first post, and it uses the registry key I mentioned.
Just to double-check - after you made the change to the registry, did you shut down (keep power key pressed until a dialog box pops up - do not just soft-reset!) and reboot your TyTN?
Also, make sure GPRS Always-On is off: check that "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\<your GPRS connection name>\AlwaysOn" is set to 0.
Cheers
Daniel

tadzio said:
That is the program I linked to in the first post, and it uses the registry key I mentioned.
Just to double-check - after you made the change to the registry, did you shut down (keep power key pressed until a dialog box pops up - do not just soft-reset!) and reboot your TyTN?
Also, make sure GPRS Always-On is off: check that "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 8-5FF7-4bc1-80F6-5DA7870BB1AA}\Connections\<your GPRS connection name>\AlwaysOn" is set to 0.
Cheers
Daniel
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All my other registry edits only require a soft reboot.
Btw, my AlwaysOn for that key is defaulted to 0 anyways. So just this registry setting alone does not disconnect my data when idle.
A side note, I have an 8525 and not a Tytn, but that shouldn't matter.

wimpy said:
All my other registry edits only require a soft reboot.
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That depends on how quickly you reboot after you made a change. The registry is not immediately flushed back to Flash memory, so if you do a soft reset too quickly, your registry changes may get lost. A shutdown with the power key forces writing any unsaved registry changes to Flash memory, so you're always on the safe side.
Something different: SKTracker can make snapshots of a system (including the registry), and also compare such snapshots. The trial version is limited, but it can create snapshots and the resulting "diffs". I used that tool to find out what GPRS Tweak does. Might also be of interest to you. And you can uninstall it afterwards.
Cheers
Daniel

I'm suprise not more people are asking about this since UMTS appears to drain the battery so quickly. Oh well.

Auto disconnect from Data Connection

Hello everybody.
I would my phone to disconnect after a set period of time from GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA or whatever else.
I tried registry hack, as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377873.
I tried HD tweak and GS-SOFT tweak too. In every case I noticed that the registry key change effectively, but unfortunately the connection remains active.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance

Hello,
i have the same behavior, i tried GBSOFT and GPRS auto-disconnect, after the installation i can see that cachetime is 600 seconds in the registry and my connection is not closed after 5 minutes so I don't know how to stop it.

Sometimes the radio signal icon is not changed back to a G but the connection is really closed.

Tyrion84 said:
Hello everybody.
I would my phone to disconnect after a set period of time from GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA or whatever else.
I tried registry hack, as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377873.
I tried HD tweak and GS-SOFT tweak too. In every case I noticed that the registry key change effectively, but unfortunately the connection remains active.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance
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i have the same problem whit ROM 1.14 ITA other people have the same promem with this ROM.Try another ROM like Blakcook 1.8.1 ITA by Lucapicci

Tyrion84 said:
Hello everybody.
I would my phone to disconnect after a set period of time from GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA or whatever else.
I tried registry hack, as mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377873.
I tried HD tweak and GS-SOFT tweak too. In every case I noticed that the registry key change effectively, but unfortunately the connection remains active.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance
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I have used HD Tweak and it works perfectly. What I did find however if you set up e-mail to check about the same amount of time as the disconnect it will never disconnect or reconnects pretty clost to disconnecting. So watch the software times for connecting to retrieve data, that will force a reconnect and then another wait to disconnect.

I am having exactly the same issue.
i have also tried changing the setting in advanced config and tweak HD but still nothing. very annoying!

If in POutlook I choose the option to download e-mail once in a day, how can I change the time of retrieval?

lotw said:
I have used HD Tweak and it works perfectly. What I did find however if you set up e-mail to check about the same amount of time as the disconnect it will never disconnect or reconnects pretty clost to disconnecting. So watch the software times for connecting to retrieve data, that will force a reconnect and then another wait to disconnect.
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what schedule do you have it set at for it to work? i've tried to get email to check every 15 and 30 mintues and HD Tweak to disconnect after 1 minute and 5 minutes and just about every combination of them both and none of them will get the phone to disconnect data connection after retrieving email....help!!!

Yes, it seems new roms aren't compatible with these tweaks, did someone manage to do it? It sure is a battery drainer! :x

Start>Settings>Phone>Data>"Disable data connections (e.g. GPRS/3G) when device enters Sleep mode
Then set sleep mode to whatever you want the delay to be before it closes the data connection.
This may not be ideal for all of you, but hopefully it will help some. It works great for me. The data is never on unless I'm using it (ex. Opera) or if it's dling my email (once every 30min).

Svegetto said:
Start>Settings>Phone>Data>"Disable data connections (e.g. GPRS/3G)
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I didn't fin it on my device.My rom il LP 1.8.1 based on 1.19WWE

Svegetto said:
Start>Settings>Phone>Data>"Disable data connections (e.g. GPRS/3G) when device enters Sleep mode
Then set sleep mode to whatever you want the delay to be before it closes the data connection.
This may not be ideal for all of you, but hopefully it will help some. It works great for me. The data is never on unless I'm using it (ex. Opera) or if it's dling my email (once every 30min).
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Yeah, that would make it, but when you download something or use a voip/3g call, that would cause problems...
Thank you very much for your inpuyt, it can help, 'till sombedy figures this out for real :x