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Complete guide to make TT5 work with a BT GPS on the JasJar

There are 3 key steps in making TomTom 5 work on an i-mate JasJar with a Bluetooth GPS.
Many tips are scattered around in different Forums.
Here is a COMPLETE overview of what to do.
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the JasJar and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the JasJar.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the Jasjar (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
Extract and copy the files to a folder on the JasJar and install them from there.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
REMAINING PROBLEM
TomTom will only connect to the BT GPS when the Phone is switched on.
If you want to use your integrated car phone and just use the JasJar as GPS, you need to switch the Phone antenna off on the JasJar and the Bluetooth radio on (for the GPS connection). This worked perfectly before with TT3 and my i-mate PDA2K but now I am forced to activate the phone radio on the JasJar meaning that I can not use my car phone anymore !
I think it is a TT problem as I am able to connect to the GPS with other software without the phone radio switched on.
Any suggestions are welcome to solve this !

THANK YOU!

Hey i think i got something wrong in the registry :? I have:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Setings
Then in there i have: defualt value not set
and
Group 0x2 (2)
I can't see a gps pael in my connection settings.Please help!!!!

jaythemagician said:
Hey i think i got something wrong in the registry :? I have:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Setings
Then in there i have: defualt value not set
and
Group 0x2 (2)
I can't see a gps pael in my connection settings.Please help!!!!
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I thought the same at first when I did it, no GPS panel. You have to make sure you exit the registry editor properly by Tools -> Exit, this saves the sertting. Then you need perform a soft reset of your device - after this, the GPS panel was now displayed on mine. Let us know how you get on

cheers for that sl9. Now my only poblem is getting it working.No matter what i do all i have in other bluetooth is:
qct data interface
RIL on COM6
COM7
serial cable on COM1
Infrared port
Ir on COM3
Any ideas?cheers

Follow the instructions in that post exactly and you should see COM0 appear in tomtom's GPS configuration screen... Try doing a hard reset, then try again. It does work

soft reset in between
I had trouble installing TT. My solution was: between every install/registry change: do a soft reset. Then do the next step and soft reset and so on...
Now it works like a charm!

jasjar crash
hi i follow ur guide but it crash all the time plz help

I tried to install TT5 and i have tried every way to do it but it will not install the ttn.cab it fails every time, i have soft reset after each cab install removed the sd card anyone any ideas
thanks
Chris

jaythemagician:
Open the file \Program Files\Navigator\navigator.cfg with an editor, you will see "COM7", change it to another COM port. In my case I changed it to "COM4" and now my JASJAR can connect to the Bluetooth GPS.

can't seem to find that in the reistry....

no, not in the registry, "navigator.cfg" is a file in the filesystem. Use windows explorer, have active sync running, then you find the file in "Mobile Device->My Windows Mobile-Based Device->\Program Files\Navigator" catalog

not quite related but when i installed TTN5.1 landscape would work, since update, on the reinstall the rotate menu option is now just a turn picture upside down so it dosent work in landscape anymore, ive tried clearing all traces and installing twice since update now

sorted it. Thanks everyone. One more thing....why does it run so slooooooow

How did you guys install your maps? Normal setup, or another way?

maps are in folders on root of SD card, ie Great-Britain-Map, TTN5.1 just see's them and you choose it during the installation wizard on the JJ

hi Parw
what editor u use to open navigator.cfg file because i used notepad nad wordpad i can see only the boxes
Regards
Gugi

Hello,
How can I install the folder "voices" because this folder is not a ".cab" on my TT5 sd ?
Thanks for your help....

gugi_sat:
Two things:
1. If you don't see a COM port in the cfg file. Open tomtom and select COM7 in the GPS configuration. Close tomtom, the cfg file should now have been updated with the new port setting.
2. To be sure that you don't mess with the cfg file use a hexeditor. You will find one here -> http://www.hhdsoftware.com/free-hex-editor.html#Download

Hi parw
thanx for reply
i am not able to go that far in tomtom because it just stop after wizards
and i am using wired tomtom gps.
Please read my post below which explain the problem i have
http://www.buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&id=5377&catid=26
Regards
Gugi

Getting TTN5 an BT GPS to work on k-jam?

There are only 2 com ports to use for outgoing in bt settings on k-jam com6 and com7. How do we go about getting the bt working for this?
regards

here are 3 key steps in making TomTom 5 work on an i-mate K-JAM with a Bluetooth GPS.
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the K-JAM and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the K-JAM
.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the K-JAM (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
Extract and copy the files to a folder on the K-JAM and install them from there.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 6.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 6 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
orignal posting here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&highlight=tomtom+5+wm2005+gtps

thereaperman said:
here are 3 key steps in making TomTom 5 work on an i-mate JasJar with a Bluetooth GPS.
Many tips are scattered around in different Forums.
Here is a COMPLETE overview of what to do.
STEP 1 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
You do this by copying the CAB files from the CDROM (eg F:\PocketPC) to the JasJar and launch one by one from there with the explorer of the JasJar.
You can install voices the same manner by copying the CAB files to the Jasjar (eg from F:\Voice on the CDROM)
STEP 2 : UPGRADE TO V5.1
http://www.htcclub.net/storage/ppcupd510.rar
Extract and copy the files to a folder on the JasJar and install them from there.
STEP 3 : ACTIVATE THE GPS CONTROL PANEL
Fire up a registry editor (eg http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/phmregistryeditor.shtml )
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MASCHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the OUTGOING port to 8.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE.
8. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
REMAINING PROBLEM
TomTom will only connect to the BT GPS when the Phone is switched on.
If you want to use your integrated car phone and just use the JasJar as GPS, you need to switch the Phone antenna off on the JasJar and the Bluetooth radio on (for the GPS connection). This worked perfectly before with TT3 and my i-mate PDA2K but now I am forced to activate the phone radio on the JasJar meaning that I can not use my car phone anymore !
I think it is a TT problem as I am able to connect to the GPS with other software without the phone radio switched on.
orignal posting here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28386&highlight=tomtom+5+wm2005+gtps
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sorry to but in, but works slightly diferently for me as i also only had com6 & 7 to choose from
hope this makes sense
STEP 4 : INSTALL TOMTOM5
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 6 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
ps took a couple of resets before the new gps icon would show in connections, also after editing the reg you must exit the program otherwise the changes arnt saved

thanks for that. I managed to get running on the jasjar,just the.k-jam that stumped me. aoane more quesrion though when you set your gps to 6 do you set your bt to com7?
thanks again

sorry, where are you talking about? in bt comports outgoing is set to (com6)

I have changed my orignal post to mach how it works on the K-JAM(so some people do not get confused :wink: )

thanks, now you made my post after your altered original one :? look like i'm talking a load of rubbish!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
maybe i should edit my post so my quote of your quote is the same?
is there an emotion available scratching it's head? :lol:

My tt voice is not working.....
HELP

have you gone into the voice section of tomtom to see if there are any voices to select from and test?

there are no voices to test...but they are instaled

check my blog, all answers revealed, voices and bluetooth, etc.
www.beyondthetech.com/blogs/kjam

when you say :
Delete the DWORD marked "hide"
Add a DWORD called "Group" and give it the value of "2" (dec)
The GPS panel will now show up in your connection settings.
First I don't see any KEY called HIDE ??
I do adda DWORD called GROUP under ...../GPS/ with value 2 (decimal)
I did 8 reset and I still don't see the GPS under settings/connection ???
how can I have it show ?
thanks

help please !!! :shock:

first of all make sure you do use the exit from the reg edit program you have used, otherwise changes are not saved.
then do as you already have, a soft reset.
on mine it a couple of resets for the new icon to appear.
good luck

yes I verify the change is made.
I already did 10 soft reset still don't see GPS icon ??

I din't have a hide to remove when I went into the registry,
if i now go into
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
ControlPanel
GPS Settings
i have
(Default) (value not set)
Group 0x2 (2)
and back in the real world in Settings i now have 8 icons, including one new one called GPS
perhaps instead of doing a soft reset, turn the kjam completely off and see if that helps

finally managed to get tomtom 5.1 working on the wizard.. phew
Now there's one thing regarding voices: tt only seems to recognize voices in the \tomtom\tomtom\ folder (in main memory). I'd like to put the voices on the storage card, but haven't found a way to get it to recognize additional voices there. creating a \voices dir on the sd card didn't work -- any other tweaks (main memory is kinda limited after all)?

hey guys, any of you having trouble with adding your maps?
My maps now say they need activating. It never said that before.
Cheers

Trying to follow this sionce I got it initally working and now failed
4. Start TT5 and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 6 free. Select COM 6 and close TT5.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now select COM (none)
6. At BT: select OUTGOING port to 6.
7. Finally start TT5 and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
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basically - in TT5 v5.21 I dont have under option 4 - I dont have a com port of 6 under other Bluetooth GPS
Any ideas?
Scott

TT Nav 5 Port from XDA 2 to Wizard
I have an XDA 2 now with TomTom on. If I transfer the software across as above and then change my device code with TomTom should everything work (e.g. Traffic updates, etc.) ??
<Fingers crossed>
TIA Dave.

There HAS to be an easier way to set up TomTom GPS? Surely?!

Ive installed my TomTom and its all working now, I can browse through the map and its all good. BUT! Im not recieving any GPS?
I read through a few posts about how to make it work and there was lengthy talk of downloading things to hijack my phone or something?
I thought TomTom was supposed to be compatible with the MDA Vario? Surely there should just be an option to say, CONNECT!
If anyone can explain the simplest way for it to work I would be very happy, Im using tomtom5.2

Well I just installed my TomTom yesterday and connected succesfully with my BT GPS Reciever.
What you have to do is : Enable your BT through the Soft button on the left, or by going to "Start" then "Settings" then "Connecting Tab", click on Bluetooth icon, check the "Bluetooth Enable" ( my device is in german language, maybe I write wrong translation for the words ) then below hit the devices tab, click on the New to check for any near BT device... When your PPC recognises your GPS, click and hold on it in the list, then choose edit (am not sure about the right word since mine is in german lang.) check the Seriel connect... , save it, then you goes back to BT devices list, now below hit the "COM-connects" now you see in a list two lines, choose the first one ( should begin with the word "New..." then choose COM 6 for your BT GPS, save all this... Go to your TomTom and start it, there you have to go to GPS settings and choose the same COM, in our case it is "COM 6", that's it... TomTom should now recognises your GPS.
I hope this helps.

Thanks, I think Im getting somewhere...
I have went onto
bluetooth
devices
new partnership
but all it is finding is something called HOME-C8P8OHXESF ?
When I try and hold down on this and edit it has a section that says
Select services to use from this device
But there is no options to click on ?

Well, the device name that your wizard found doesn't look like a gps, but who knows, maybe this is it's modell's name.
Well I found this tutorial from the TomTom sit itself abou how to configure your GPS to work in any PPC that runs WM5 :
http://www.tomtom.com/support/solution.php?GID=3&PID=188&SID=196&CID=223&Language=1&FID=4806
I hope this helps.

Treo Pro GPS Problems - Any ideas?

I just got a Treo Pro recently and love it, but my only issue is getting the GPS to work. I've scoured the forum here but still couldn't get to work. Would like to fix or I'll have to return. Can anyone help?
I started up google maps, clicked "use GPS" but it consistenty reports that it can't find any satelites after several minutes outside. After reading through threads here, I've tried installing a few GPS tools such as GPSToday, GPS Viewer and HTC GPS Tool and none of these can find a satelite either even after a long wait with clear line of sight to the sky.
My settings are the defaults out the box and are as follows -
External GPS settings:
GPS program port: COM4
GPS hardare port: (none)
Baud rate: 4800
Windows Manage GPS automatically enabled
Google Maps GPS setting - Managed by Windows
Any help much appreciated.

problem with GPS
I remember reading somewhere in other forum that if your phone was from Egypt the GPS was disable from the registry and couldn't make it to work, because it's illegal or something like that.
The settings are correct, there should be on com4:com4.. although haven't check the bps on mine.. have you tried to change it to something else?
anyway here's a link where you can check if your gps is disabled in the registry of the phone...
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=174029
you could probably check that out...
obviously modify your registry at your own risk...
hope it works...

I would google that GPS program called GPS Test. you should be able to find it right here. Use that program to see if your GPS is working correctly. Its as simple as runninig it when your outside. It will start picking up sats and give you a visual indication of how many and if they're locked on.
As long as I run Quick GPS (built into the treo) I can get a lock pretty quick, maybe 30 seconds or so. Its possible your gps could be defective.

simeonfishman said:
I just got a Treo Pro recently and love it, but my only issue is getting the GPS to work. I've scoured the forum here but still couldn't get to work. Would like to fix or I'll have to return. Can anyone help?
I started up google maps, clicked "use GPS" but it consistenty reports that it can't find any satelites after several minutes outside. After reading through threads here, I've tried installing a few GPS tools such as GPSToday, GPS Viewer and HTC GPS Tool and none of these can find a satelite either even after a long wait with clear line of sight to the sky.
My settings are the defaults out the box and are as follows -
External GPS settings:
GPS program port: COM4
GPS hardare port: (none)
Baud rate: 4800
Windows Manage GPS automatically enabled
Google Maps GPS setting - Managed by Windows
Any help much appreciated.
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Does running the "QuickGPS" program make any difference?

Quick GPS???
I just got a Treo Pro from Alltel and it didn't come with Quick GPS.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
K

I have an Alltel Treo and I had a GPS location problem until I changed the location settings from 911 only to allow other programs and services to locate me.
Under Settings > Phone > Services > Location.

denada777 said:
I just got a Treo Pro from Alltel and it didn't come with Quick GPS.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
K
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I am interested too. My Sprint Tero Pro did not come with Quick GPS.

Strange, Sometimes mine doesnt work, so i unselect 'Use GPS' from google maps. Than i start up Google maps again and select 'Use GPS' and it magically works.

GPS on Alltel Palm Treo Pro
There is not internal GPS on this phone with Alltel. You must have a Bluethooth GPS reciver and configure it in Settings/External GPS. This may be becauser thye want to have you use Alltel Navigation at $10 per month.

[email protected] said:
There is not internal GPS on this phone with Alltel. You must have a Bluethooth GPS reciver and configure it in Settings/External GPS. This may be becauser thye want to have you use Alltel Navigation at $10 per month.
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The alltel unit does have the GPS, it's just deactivated. They are trying to force you to use their paid application. I'm trying to figure out which registry keys need to be modified.
Can somebody dump their reg settings for an unlocked unit so we can compare?
Thanks!

ConRadical said:
The alltel unit does have the GPS, it's just deactivated. They are trying to force you to use their paid application. I'm trying to figure out which registry keys need to be modified.
Can somebody dump their reg settings for an unlocked unit so we can compare?
Thanks!
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not registry issue for alltel. they have shipped it with location setting defaulted as off.
it's simple:
Start Menu->Settings->Personal-> Phone-> Services-> select "Location Setting" ->press Get Settings button-> scroll down, ->select 'OK"

jtraveler said:
I have an Alltel Treo and I had a GPS location problem until I changed the location settings from 911 only to allow other programs and services to locate me.
Under Settings > Phone > Services > Location.
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Thank You, Thank You, Thank You,
That got my Alltel GPS working!
For the life of me I could not figure out what the hell the problem was. Why would Alltel ship it like that?......dicks.

aero1 said:
not registry issue for alltel. they have shipped it with location setting defaulted as off.
it's simple:
Start Menu->Settings->Personal-> Phone-> Services-> select "Location Setting" ->press Get Settings button-> scroll down, ->select 'OK"
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Mine was disabled in the Reg. I wonder if i got a different rom version.

Maybe that gui option modifies the registry entry ;P

Palm not initiating
I found this way works using one to initiate the GPS which my Palm doesn't seem to do and then run map software.
http://www.easyreadarticles.com/?p=87
Cheers,
phil

i just posted an explanation on treo central about how to add quick gps to the cdma (sprint,alltel,verizon) treo pro check it out http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?p=1670807#post1670807

I'll second jeremyspencer's link there. works like a champ on my Alltel Treo Pro.

Your settings are correct. My phone has similar problems unless I use the QuickGPS program. It will work without the QuickGPS but it can take up to an hour to get a fix. With Quick GPS it's about 2-5 minutes

Change registry value for the GPSLockWorkaround from 0 to 1 to enable the gps.
It can be found at:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction\CDMA\GPSLockWorkaround

Bluetooth GPS COM port does not stay selected

The crappy HTC BT stack from HD2 strikes again. I have an external GPS unit and I mapped it on COM2 port. Now every time I try to use that port from a GPS program (like GPSTool or iGo) the damn selection dialog pops up asking me to select WHICH comm port do I want to use?! THERE IS ONLY ONE!!!!
The worse thing is that I don't have a way to change to this external GPS for the whole OS: The External GPS settings dialog doesn't seem to have any effect.
I am using the latest EnergyROM but I believe this problem is also present in the official ROMs.
Any ideas? Thanks!

Same problem here. I sent a request to the HTC support today. Damn WIDCOMM Bluetooth-Stack.
Look at this thread: 632159 (I am not allowed to post direct links )

You have to change the 'GPS driver' selection in the registry.
It's in HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Immediate Driver\Drivers\CurrentDriver
You can modify my http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4373210#post4373210 cab for yourself. I'm releasing a GUI selector for this in CamerAwareBuddy sometime soon. I'm sure somebody make one before also.
HOWEVER, this doesn't disable the useless COM port confirmation each time.

Something that might be interesting for this problem:
showpost.php?p=6397904&postcount=7