Non-latin characters - problems with SMS and activesync - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

I feel kinda silly.
I have two problems which I am not sure how to fix...
I have contacts, in my BA, that are in Greek (names, addresses and so on). I also have events in my calendar which are in Greek.
I have the latest activesync and Outlook 2003
Now, when I sync, all the events come over BUT the ones in greek are not in Greek! They are in gibberish! Then when I sync again, the data on my BA becomes gibberish! Is there anyway to fix this problem?
The second problem is this:
When I get an SMS from people using non windows mobile phones (Nokia and SonyEricsson seem to be the most used) and when someone sends me an SMS in Greek, it seems that characters, that are not existent in other latin languages, get dropped from the message, and in their space there is a blank spot.
So for example (all caps) if someone sends me:
Alpha Pi Omikron Sigma Tau Omikron Lamda Eta Sigma
(sorry the board did not accept the unicode)
I would get
A O T O H (because those capitals letters are common in both latin based alphabets and greek alphabets).
Any idea how to fix this?
Thank!

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Help!!!Chinese writing on English MDA compact?

Does anyone know how I can get a chinese writing software so that I can write chinese on a English(T-mobile) MDA compact.
try Monster Chinese
http://www.mactiontech.com/big5/download_chinese.htm
Send chinese text message
nosplus said:
try Monster Chinese
http://www.mactiontech.com/big5/download_chinese.htm
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Can I use this to write chinese in text messaging and send chinese text?
or would you know any software where I can actually write chinese in the text message.
Yes you could, with Maction Chinese
It can also display Chinese character in Today plugin, etc etc.. Only thing is, don't have too many false hope on these thing. Like me, I was hoping that it could sync my Contact that's in Chinese character with my Outlook that's in English. All those will becomes "??" mark, damn!!
Re: Yes you could, with Maction Chinese
cyberjaya said:
It can also display Chinese character in Today plugin, etc etc.. Only thing is, don't have too many false hope on these thing. Like me, I was hoping that it could sync my Contact that's in Chinese character with my Outlook that's in English. All those will becomes "??" mark, damn!!
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well, i don't have this problem at all, although i'm uisng Eng WinXP, I input Chinese character for some of the contacts on my phone, and when I sync my mini to my PC, My PC can shows the contacts in Chinese character also.
Try these chinese ROMs
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Chinese/
Enabling ActiveSync synchronisation in another Language (eg. Chinese)
cyberjaya said:
It can also display Chinese character in Today plugin, etc etc.. Only thing is, don't have too many false hope on these thing. Like me, I was hoping that it could sync my Contact that's in Chinese character with my Outlook that's in English. All those will becomes "??" mark, damn!!
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ActiveSync does not seem to use Unicode as its means of communication. Instead, it uses the default encoding as per Windows' setting. If you have your setting set to English (United States), but have Chinese on your PPC, then it's not going to work.
It is possible to change this setting, but be aware of the consequences before doing so...
1) Open the "Regional & Language Options" dialog: Start->Settings->Control Panel->Regional and Language Options
2) Select the Advanced Tab. Read the details on the screen. Note: Changing this setting can have seriours consequences, as the default encoding of characters is changed. This means that characters other than the first 128 ASCII characters may appear differently in files after this setting is changed. Use with caution Change the setting to the language that you have installed on your Pocket PC. For example, I have "Chinese (Hong Kong S.A.R.). Click OK.
3) Reboot
4) Resync with ActiveSync.
>>> Update Note: The prior post was made with regard to ActiveSync 4.2, and with a WM2003SE ROM. These details may not be correct with regard to WM5 and the latest version of ActiveSync. It seems Windows Mobile 5 has better support for Unicode synchronisation.
I remember hearing about a chinese software called CE Star. Google for it..
There are two main issues here:
1) A Chinese language system that allows display of text in Chinese, along with Chinese input (for which PenPower/CE Star and Monster Chinese are solutions), and
2) The ability to synchronise data between Outlook and the PPC without losing the characters during synchronisation (eg. when inputting "龘龗蘇" as a name on the PC, avoiding it appearing on the PPC as "???").
To solve problem (1), look at PenPower or Monster Chinese. These products install a Chinese font on your system allowing display of Chinese characters, along with one or more SIP (soft input panel) items to allow input of text.
To solve problem (2), refer to my previous post in this thread (up two posts).

SMS only 70 Letters?!

As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
i had the same problem too.. except after 3 messages it split to 3 messages for 112 charachters... was confused too....
jaso2005 said:
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
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Please check to see if you use any dobule byte character in your SMS. This might be the cause.
Michael
Hey guys this is due to the fact that when you write the SMSs you are including UNICODE characters such as ' " etc....
Due to the fact that these characters are encoded differently to standard characters, the SMS application has to reduce the number of characters in the sms and hence only allows 70 characters per sms.......which could mean that you send a short sms or send the sms split up! This can cost you a lot!!!
You have two options........
1/ Turn off Unicode characters
- this is done by; from you SMS inbox -> Tools -> Options -> Accounts Tab -> Click on * Text Messages -> un-tick the 'Use Unicode when necessary' -> then OK.
2/ Make sure that you don’t use Unicode characters
hope this helps!!
you can also turn unicode and double-byte characters off as well.
in messaging app, tap accounts, and then accounts
tap text messages, and then untick use unicode when necessary.
This still allows you to type in the extra characters, but wether it sends them or not, I dont know (being an uneducated englishman, i only speak english so never use those characters!)
this place just never seases to amaze me! Thanks very much guys you all deserve a star! :lol:
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if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:
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I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
jigero said:
I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
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No, because greek characters are in the extended unicode set, not the default characters.
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ?
perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
woh guys!! I wondered why my qtek S110 did wierd stuff.. it's all ok now thanks to you!! CHEEERS!! ;o)
mapas said:
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ? perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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In the default 7-bit SMS alphabet, the greek letters that do not have a latin equivalent (say beta -> B) or omomorph (say rho -> P) letter, that is delta, phi, gamma, lambda, omega, pi, psi, sigma theta and xi are available, but you can't chose between upper and lower case. The official character set only supports UPPER case...
There are a few semistandard for dealing with upper and lower cases, but it's quite likely that the sms application on windows mobile can't deal with either.
but with the greek keyboard it works!!!!!
only with the phone pad not......
How about Chinese characters?

sms greek letters dont' show

Hello everyone. Here's a problem I have with my wing: when I send sms using greek keyboards (interkey keyboard and greek keyboard), the receiving party cannot see the greek characters.
I sent an sms to myself and I couldnt see it either!
this is what i sent:
ςερτυθιοπασδφγηξκλζχψωβνμΣΕΡΤΥΘΙΟΠΑΣΔΦΓΗΞΚΛΖΧΨΩΒΝΜ
this is what i received:
?????????????????????????Σ????Θ??Π?ΣΔΦΓ?Ξ?Λ??ΨΩ???
I'm using open touch biggy by ttran v.5
could someone please help me?
Btw, I'm not experiencing this problem when I end emails or write notes, docx etc. just sms.
its possible that the protocol that tmobile uses to send sms cant recognize greek characters. if this is true, you're pretty much SOL until tmo decides to change the system.
I'd stick to phonetic spellings for now
The GSM standard supports only the upper case Greek characters in what is called a 7 bit alphabet. Unicode characters, which is probably what you are sending are not supported by all SMS carrier gateways. I would look for a keyboard mapper that does map your keyboard to the 7 bit alphabet.
Having said that, I am still looking for one...

[Q] Non-Latin Characters in SMS not going through

Anyone tried sending an SMS with non-Latin characters? I've tried using Russian (Cyrillic), Hebrew, and Chinese characters in my SMS's from T-Mobile to folks on AT&T & Verizon and they look like a sequence of * characters. For example, "привет, как дела?" turns into "******, *** ****?" Same for Hebrew and Chinese. I can *receive* non-Latin unicode SMS's and MMS's and all the characters appear correctly, though. What's causing this and how do I correct it -- highly annoying, especially since my 4-yr Nokia N95 handled these absolutely fine...

Optimus S - SMS in non-english characters ?

Hi,
I have a WinMob phone and my wife just got an LG Optimus S (both on Sprint).
We're bi-lingual (English / Russian). Both phones have US localization and 3rd party dual language keyboards.
I can both send and receive cyrillic SMS. She can only send them in cyrillic. I can read the SMS she sends from her phone but she can't read the SMS I send from mine (bunch of underscores). Since both phones are on the same network it's not operator related.
I don't know Android at all - this is my first exposure to it. On WinMob this would be related to encoding settings, however WM is very good at handling various encodings (at least in Microsoft's own applications). I did go through settings but I can't find a way to make it use Unicode in SMS; any help will be greatly appreciated !
Wow, this surely generated lots of attention ! 8(
Seems to be an Android-specific bug.
Sorry I will probably not be able to help you, but I encounter the same problem when I receive a message in French. What is weird is that it seems to affect only certain types of accents... Are you using the native SMS app or are you using Handcent as well?
By the way in Hancent there is options for several language formats, this being said it did not seem to work successfully for me but you will maybe have more luck.

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