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Having had my XDA 2 now for a few weeks, and having finally worked out most of the kinks of the really inadequate bluetooth stack (by installing the widcomm stack) I am now moved to address my other annoyances: the very feature poor phone software.
I expected a very configurable phone, but was very disappointed with the microsoft dailer. The short list of features I find missing are:
No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact. This could be very usefully, as you would know who is phoning without checking the screen.
No software to keep track of your calls or GPRS allowance. Even my old nokia from 3 years ago could do that.
No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset. I know you can do it the other way around, why not this way too?
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
Anyways, there is alot more, and people may want to add their annoyances. Im really wondering if there is any software that can replace the microsoft Dailer (like Pocketinformant replaces the pocket outlook).
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Surur
Took me a minute to know what you're talking about.
No, I hate the built-in dialer on the Pocket PC.
The author of mobidial (http://www.mobidial.com) told me there will be an XDA II version.. hopefully soon.
-arebelspy
hey,
just a few comments....
re: No separate ring tones can be assigned to each contact
- i beleive the o2 xda site has free software for download; one of which is called powercontacts. i believe it allows you to assign a ringtone to each contact. i tried it when i still had the xda1...never got it to work. so, i downloaded a trial version of ringtonex; it works like a charm and i'm able to assign individual ringtones to any contact i want. i immediately bought the software, i think it was for around 9usd. now that i'm using the xda2; the software still works great. for ringtones what i did was record the voice of my friends, officemates, my wife, and used those wav files for ringtones corresponding to their contacts. it also works in tandem with the photocontacts app in the xda2
re: No way to transfer a call from the handset to a headset
-the xda2 has bluetooth and i use it together with the bt200 headset. incoming and outgoing calls are automatically transferred to the headset.
2 cents worth.
cheers mate
robson
Transferring from phone to headset is a headset dependent thing. My HBH-65 allows me to transfer to phone and back to headset, but my Jabra wouldn't have.
Thx for the great pointers. I am definitely getting the RingtoneX app, and mobidail or something similar, when it comes out.
I just wish that developers would design more for handed use, not using a stylus, especially as bluetooth voicedailing does not work.
About transferring to a headset, I mean after you pick up a call with the XDA, transferring the call to a headset should be possible, but has not worked for me yet.
Another minor peeve, why is the sms option not on the dialler, but on the menu bar, and why is speaker phone also not on the front, but you have to press a key for it. There still needs to be alot of improvement. Hopefully independent programmers will kick in and fix all these deficiencies. It does make you wonder if the developers actually use their own devices or not...
Surur
Very little status information on the dailer screen. Why is this,when most cell phone screens look like the status display on a jet?
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i think it's because that most cell phones screens is their version of the today screen
i most surdenly would not wish such a confusing cluttet messy interface on my worst enemy
(yeah of cause not all cellphones are all that bad some many are)
I dont know. At least they should have the battery status on the screen, and the network logo would not be ammis either (currently its difficult to know when you have no reception, or just no reception)
Alot of the stuff thats currently in the task bar could also be bigger icons on the dailer, and it would also make it look less plain and just incomplete, as if its been thrown together at the last minute.
Surur
well not sure if it's much help but if you install some bar like advanced wisbar on your pda you'll have batt status in the bar both in today and the dialer
suppose this is a pre customised vs. free 3. party customising
some people like to set up their device with personal customising and some people want the place they buy it to handle that
in that way i suppose xda and other such devices are more like computers then std phones are
of cause if one get a xda with all the stuff in the preloaded provider rom they get more of that stuff you want
of cause thats not saying that they get enough
Ive been a user of Icbar for a long time, but as notifications is so important on a PPCPE device, and its not supported, I am not able to use it anymore. This is unfortuanate, as I enjoyed knowing what my battary status is all the time.
Surur
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
This is brilliant. It would be even better if it could use the phone key insteadof loosing my contacts button. Any idea how to do htis.
Thx
Surur
vetie said:
If you want to use your finger to dial contacts try Fingerclix by imaginet software. I used it on my Samsung I700 and now my I-Mate and it works just fine.
http://www.imaginet-software.com/index.aspx?p=fingerclix_en
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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Thanks Vetie for posting the link also can somebody post the link for RingTonex. Man this is great stuff! 8)
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http://www.mtux.com/info_ring.aspx
-arebelspy
Attached is an early alpha version of D9, a replacement for the built-in dialler. The main features are:
* Predictive text contact lookup
* Fast
* Big (thumb-friendly) buttons
* Free
Source code, a website and various other bits and pieces will be arriving in due course. In the meantime, however, please do feel free to try it out and give it a go.
I'm looking for feedback, so please let me know what you think!
I think it's a very good start. The application, as you said, takes 2-3 seconds to start the first time, but it's not a big problem. It is very quick for finding contacts. Buttons are big enough and the use of vibra very useful.
Here is some features that could be useful in my point of view:
- Possibility to have contacts sorted by the Outlook field 'View as' (or 'Save as' or 'Fill as'. Don't know what MS translated into 'Classer sous').
- Or if not possible, sorting (finding) contacts by company, name and firstname.
- Clear the previous search automatically when the application comes to the foreground.
- Option to switch to internal dialer once the contact has been dialed.
- Highlight the found string in the contact name (this is nice to have more than really useful).
Hope it helps. I look forward to next version.
Thanks for the great suggestions. I'll see what I can do!
Hi Mike,
I was looking for something with a big "exit" button like this one, so I did a try to it.
Unfortunely my XDA II gives me an error every time I tap the screen when the program and library was installed on SD card.
When installed on main memory it was fine making calls but when I got an incoming call the built-in dialler was the one coming up to the screen.
The main problem for me is that I don't want to play with the penn while driving after I got a call to close the dialler screen and I need it closed to see the TomTom Navigator.
Mostly of you drive a car, I do a motorbike, so it's not very funny to try to hit the small "X" with a small penn and big gloves.
I will look for a new version.
Jose Adell
Unfortunely my XDA II gives me an error every time I tap the screen when the program and library was installed on SD card.
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Hi Jose,
Sorry, I don't have an XDA II myself - I've only tested on my JAM. Could you tell me what the error message is?
Hi Mike
Mike Wagstaff said:
Unfortunely my XDA II gives me an error every time I tap the screen when the program and library was installed on SD card.
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Hi Jose,
Sorry, I don't have an XDA II myself - I've only tested on my JAM. Could you tell me what the error message is?
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I will do tomorrow as I need to install it again on the SD card, but I think you don't need worry too much about it. It's typical to get some errors, like libraries (dll, ocx...) are not installed when it's done on SD cards.
But the main problem for me still remains, to get the incoming calls through your program. Currently is the buil-in the one comes up.
See you tomorrow,
Jose
Hi Mike
I did install again your program on the SD card and this is the error I get as far I tap the screen:
I suppose you don't understand Spanish so I'll do a translation:
"Unexpected error in D9.exe. Tap Salir (Exit) and reinitialize the program or tap Detalles (Details) to get more information".
If you tap Details then a new similar screen comes up and says:
"D9.exe
TypeLoadException"
As I said in my former message, all this doesn't happen if the program is installed in the Default folder.
Hope it helps.
Jose Adell
Hi Mike,
installed your program with no problems at all.
I have a Qtek 2020 with 1.72 WWE installed.
Works OK and finds the contacts correctly, by first or by last name.
It is a simple, thus easy to use and load program.
The only thing to point out is that I would prefer a slightly larger font on the number and name display, making it more 'readable' when on the move, e.g. car, where I will be more likelly to use it.
regards,
george
Hi Mike,
I have been waiting for an update to your great program. Is it possible that it could be mapped to the Send/End keys? Maybe you and Maimaich could get together on this?
I also agree with the previous posts to enlarge the contact name font. And I miss the speed dial option from your previous version (which does work on WM2003). Keep up the good work.
Feature wanted
It would be nice if I could navigate the buttons on the screen using the D-pad. With this, I can then write sms without the need to press on the screen and leave my messy fingerprints on it. :lol:
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Attached is an early alpha version of D9, a replacement for the built-in dialler.
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I'm looking for feedback, so please let me know what you think!
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Thank you for your job. It looks much better on my MDA Compact. I even think about using it in replacement of the built-in dialer would it dial DTMF tones in the line. This is the worst thing that stops me from using it :-(
As minor features I'd like to see more large and contrast phone number, no vibra but sound when touching screen buttons, ability to map this program to the MDA's buttons on-hook and off-hook. Also I guess this is not a good idea to press "Clear" to start the new history for the phone number.
Sorry for the mostly negative commens - I wish the program become a real replacement for the standard dialer.
Yes great app, but the lack of tones doesn't make it easy to manage the message box on the Orange answering machine.
international characters
i'm going to try this new version. i have done simple app for previous version of D9 that converts all international chars (codepage cp1250) to ascii and change order of firstname and lastname to lastname firstname. there is source code avalable so i can add this feature if not avail and i'll share it. i like so much previous version and i'll see this one tomorrow. i'm looking forward.
very nice tool ! I use it all the time now ! keep up the good work :lol:
Glad you like it!
I've made a webpage for D9, and also have posted up a version of the source code (it's actually slightly newer than the current binary, so think of it as a work in progress). The site can be found here:
http://www.pocketgamer.org/d9/
You can download the source code directly from here:
http://www.pocketgamer.org/d9/source.zip
Please feel free to use / adapt / improve the code as you wish! Note that I've used two external components, Poom .NET (for contacts operations) and OpenNET CF (dialling, vibrate functionality).
Any thoughts on adding the tones for voice mail operation ?
I'd love to! Does anyone know of any example code for generating the tones...?
The tones are called DTMF-tones:
A list with the frequencies can be found here:
http://www.zytrax.com/tech/telephony/dtmf_tones.htm
Made a new skin for D9 dialer
I Just made 1 skin for D9 dialer, in 2 variations, (look at dial and clear buttons).
Unzip to D9 directory, overwrite - yes.
hey cool app but how do i use the hax one on the right with the SMS,
ive been after a SMS app that did full screen vertical typing for a while.
will this one do it ?
I was thinking about some annoying things about the Wizard and was wondering if anyone knew of a program that would let you re-assign button combinations for system shortcuts?
Like the Align screen. If you play emulators you probably know what I mean. Or the Run shortcut, pressing the enter key and holding the stylus on the clock is not worth it, but hold Windows key and hit "r" would be nice.
Anyone know of a program that will allow you to do this?
Or any Programming masters want to take this up?
PQz should allow you to do most of that stuff (eg windows key + r = run, I think).
Regarding the align screen, I've written VJCalibrula to disable that, but I've also written another tool to allow you to reassign most of the hardware assigned keyboard apps, eg reassign internet explorer combo, filexplorer combo, on the Hermes the video key etc. Also reassign the wired headset button to launch any app.
I could probably also write an app activated by the light sensor, but didn't think there was much point!
I'm going to try to build an app around the idea and release eventually.
V
PQz should allow you to do most of that stuff (eg windows key + r = run, I think).
Regarding the align screen, I've written VJCalibrula to disable that, but I've also written another tool to allow you to reassign most of the hardware assigned keyboard apps, eg reassign internet explorer combo, filexplorer combo, on the Hermes the video key etc. Also reassign the wired headset button to launch any app.
I could probably also write an app activated by the light sensor, but didn't think there was much point!
I'm going to try to build an app around the idea and release eventually.
V
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Vijay555 I was kinda hoping you would see this do you know though if any of these work on the Wizard?
I tried VJCalibrula but the program didn't execute. Unless you have created an update since I last tried.
I did an updated VJCalibrula for your 2.26 rom, which one of your brethren tested and said it worked. Ergo:
Please test -
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjcalibrula/vjcalibrulawizard.exe
However, to get some feedback if it worked, make a shortcut to the .exe and run with the command line -debug to get info.
The new unnamed app should work on pretty much every keyboard device, although I don't have a wizard and it really holds back my testing. VJVolubilis still can't be finalised because of this... one day
I'm still wondering how to present the final of VJ[...] button app. I'm using a rough and ready version for now, but I'll try to implement some kind of GUI eventually.
Ask me in a week or so and I'll try to send you an alpha if you want.
V
VJCalibrula does NOT work on the HTC Wizard (or at least my Cingular 8125). I am DYING for a release, as this Capcom emulator is freaking sweet, but this align screen nonsense is beyond annoying.
Please help!!
Vijay555 is the ****zl!
I did an updated VJCalibrula for your 2.26 rom, which one of your brethren tested and said it worked. Ergo:
Please test -
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/...rulawizard.exe
However, to get some feedback if it worked, make a shortcut to the .exe and run with the command line -debug to get info.
The new unnamed app should work on pretty much every keyboard device, although I don't have a wizard and it really holds back my testing. VJVolubilis still can't be finalised because of this... one day
I'm still wondering how to present the final of VJ[...] button app. I'm using a rough and ready version for now, but I'll try to implement some kind of GUI eventually.
Ask me in a week or so and I'll try to send you an alpha if you want.
V
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Wow for some reason I was auto unsubscribed to this, but this programs works perfect no more align screen shortcut. whilst playing games.
VJCalibrula does NOT work on the HTC Wizard (or at least my Cingular 8125). I am DYING for a release, as this Capcom emulator is freaking sweet, but this align screen nonsense is beyond annoying.
Please help!!
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aNiMeMaN14 what ROM are you using? vijay said that he configured it for the 2.26 rom.
anyway works great for me. Thanks vijay!!
Guys I've rewritten VJCalibrula and VJUzumaki to work on (hopefully!) any HTC device now. I'm going to be doing a bit more testing prior to release though. Glad the current versions work.
V
vijay555 said:
Guys I've rewritten VJCalibrula and VJUzumaki to work on (hopefully!) any HTC device now. I'm going to be doing a bit more testing prior to release though. Glad the current versions work.
V
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hmmmm.. and where is the update?
Which app and which device?
V
I've been reading thru the posts on the touch dual and see a pretty overwhelming response in the positive range regarding the device. It's been out for a bit so it is getting a track record. I've decided to order the 20 key qwerty. Was getting a little buyers remorse and was wondering if there were any consistant ongoing issues that perhaps I missed. I would appreciate all comments. Thanks. Hope I'm not making a mistake. I currently have the cruise so I'm used to the touch flo. I think I'm going to like the qwerty slider.
hi there cbreze,
After speaking to a few members on here, who have been extremely helpful, i think the phone sounds really good. Read Here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379178
But after reading about a few issues, i'm beginning to get paranoid if i made the right choice. On this thread, there is a mention of people having problems locking and unlocking the phone when answering calls:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=353569
Personally, all i want is a phone which when in closed position is locked and i shouldn't be able to use the Touchscreen or any other button, but when i slide it open, that should be the time when i should be able to answer calls or press buttons to dial out.
Also there is the mention of constantly doing soft resets etc. I hope this isn't a regular issue
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Personally, all i want is a phone which when in closed position is locked and i shouldn't be able to use the Touchscreen or any other button, but when i slide it open, that should be the time when i should be able to answer calls or press buttons to dial out.
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when you get your touch, you might be interested in this neat little app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359212
thanks ducamie for the link and also for PM'ing me earlier. I'm waiting for delivery today and hope that the phone arrives quickly.
For those who are total noobs, like myself to WM6, what is the best way of learning to install these apps? FYI, i am very computer literate, but dread to mess with mobile phones. I assume WM6 is like Windows XP in file structures, extensions and to install is also a similar method?
if you understand about computers, ppc should be a walk in the park for you!!
it's pretty simple to install anything:
download the .cab file (.cab is for your ppc as .exe is for your pc)
copy the .cab file to your ppc
open the .cab file with your ppc
it installs automatically (you just need to choose the location)
done!
just like a normal computer
I got mine for about 2 weeks now. Overall device is good, only disappointment for me is that XT9 cannot be disabled, it is default input method and you have to manually change all the time. Also when you want to use hardware keyboard for typing sms, it only types numbers When i was ordering this device, i was planning to use hardware keypad for typing stuff, but it is just not usable.
I installed Opera Mobile, similarly, if you want to type URL in address bar using hardware keypad, only numbers can be typed. Not sure if there is a fix somewhere on this forum, i could not find one so far.
creaking
first of all, i love my device!
but quite a long time the cap @ the backside of the device is creaking when i use the touchscreen or the keypad. does anyone have this problem too? what can i do against that? put'em into the freezer
Yep, they all do that (the creaking, that is!). Mine does it as well. It's because there are no strengthening bars in the battery cover, meaning that it flexes when pressed. Nothing to worry about. I actually dropped mine yesterday (I was on a call) and it didn't even drop the connection. The battery cover flew off but, otherwise, the phone was fine. No marks at all. I do have a screen protector on as well, which ultimately saved me a massive headache!
Would a simple bus. card on top of the battery or a section of tape wrapped around the battery help any. I've never had a device yet I couldn`t fix a batt. door creak by using some simple mod. I hate that creaking noise thing!
jvieira said:
if you understand about computers, ppc should be a walk in the park for you!!
it's pretty simple to install anything:
download the .cab file (.cab is for your ppc as .exe is for your pc)
copy the .cab file to your ppc
open the .cab file with your ppc
it installs automatically (you just need to choose the location)
done!
just like a normal computer
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Well thats very interesting, thanks for that helpful explanation. Without mentioning too much detail (shhh ) Can i get tomtom to fit on a 1gb microsd card supplied by orange or will i need to buy another card? Also how hard is it to install tomtom on the ppc? Do i simply run a .cab file?
Hi everyone, i have WM6.1 Pro CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0) on my BA, and everything works fine, except my hardware keyboard. When i push any button, the key is pushed until i push any other button... it means that i push a, it writes me aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... and it's unusable.. thanks for replies.
I've the same problem
and do you have instead if z y, and instead of "?" "up arrow"? i know there is german keyboard fix, but it doesn't work for me:-/
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and do you have instead if z y, and instead of "?" "up arrow"? i know there is german keyboard fix, but it doesn't work for me:-/
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I've a french keyboard, but I use ameriacan layout.
Hello !
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=231660
Greeatings Ernst
yes, i think it's going to be better, but xda-dev's ftp doesn't work for some time, so i have no idea where to get this qwerty patch.. but i am really angry from pushing keys, it's very unusable and have no idea how to solve this problem.. every reply is welcomed
sssssaaaaaaammmmmmmeeeeeee pprrrooobblleemmmmmm
It happens to me too... nothing a soft reset doesn't fix. It only happens after the PDA hasn't been reset in a while. Must be a buggy driver.
I'm running Build 19949.1.2.0.Black. I can't remember exactly who cooked it, but a search for "wm6.1 black" should turn it up.
EDIT
My rom:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390862&highlight=19949
Looks like I'm overdue for an upgrade...
this is a common bug in wm6.1 roms its just another bug the BA has when its using a rom witch he was not intended for xD
My rom:WM6.1_20758_WWE_by sun_dream.
the same here! I am on an English OS with a German hardware keyboard (QWERTZ).
The thing is, that all cabs that circulating around don't work anymore. Since build 19xxx all those reg changes don't have an impact anymore! No way to change the hardware keyboard anymore!
any update on that??
regards
irm
i tried change delay before first repeat, it seems to be better, but it happens sometimes too... i like wm6 very much, but this is really bad bug, i need to be repaired...:-/
i solved the problem
try to change the speed of buttons
settings-buttons-up and down control
change the (delay before first repeat) to a little bit long (a quarter or a half of the slider)
and also
change the (repat rate) reduce the slider to a little bit slower (it probably a half)
cheers
evo
thanks for reply but i tried it, it's one post above yours... doesn't help at all
how about reducing the repat rate to the slowest...
have u try that?
Hardware keyboard and buttons
We let go of things to acquire new and better ones =) I lost the functionality of my four front buttons and the hardware keyboard doesn't work well when I decided to upgrade my device. I can't hard reset (i'm using MTTY) and i no longer use the keyboard......... well, i have learned to live with it. In return, I have reincarnated my BA to a WM6.1 Touch phone. No more stylus; no more hardware keyboard; no more hard reset on a dead battery. I love my phone now more than what it used to be...or what it was, when i first got my hands on it =)
happenssssssss to me too.
in fact, it has done so on every single 6.1ROM ive tried...and ive tried quite a few before finally settling down with Swampy's.
My guess: threaded sms is partly to blame- correct me if im wrong.
to me, the problem happens only while replying within a big sms thread. Im guessing, displaying/having so much text on screen/in ram is some how interfering with keyboard inputs. Already, it is slow, and it sometimes gets so slow it's stuck, holding onto a key press input and hence the repeats until a new key is pressed to cancel out the effect.
likewise, if you try composing a new sms, the problem, and the slow downs are far less often.
Maybe this will help
I was having the same prob...at first i thought that something was wrong with the hardware but then it struck me that maybe its the ROM...
What you can do is that:
Go to the settings and open the Button settings..there you can see the key repeat rate settings and the delay before first repeat settings..reduce both the sliders to slow and short respectively, so now when u press a key it wont go on like crazy...
Hope this helps...It like annoying when u are scrolling using the dpad cuz dont want to keep pressing...but i think the keyboard is more important and we can bear that...
But please someone do find out some working fix for this...
Never happened to me. I'm using WM 6.1.4 ROM 20755.V2.22 (CE OS 5.2.20755) from Sun Dream. But I always install BAHRUS (HTC BlueAngel Russian Hardware Keyboard) from http://ae.inc.ru/index.php.