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Navigon Mobile Navigator 4

Hi all mates!
I'd like to open a thread to discuss about this piece of software!
I have to buy one among tomtom3, destinator 3 and Navigator 4 so I think it's good to open this thread to share any comments and infos and any other thoughts concerning theese sat-nav programs!
Cya!!!

Forget Destinator for a start. We have a review of the previous version of Navigon here and TomTom3 here.

I have myself check out different navigation systems and have concluded that Navigon Mobile Navigator 4 is the most sophisticated one. But I must concede, it is expensive, they had delays in bringing the software to market, they have already made an upgrade available (presumably there were issues with the new software), and they have not managed to put the demo on their website for about the last 3 months. In addition, I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
There is also a POI handler available (in English) at: http://www.navigating.de
Check out this German site for a review (in German): http://www.pocket.at/navigation/navivergleich.htm
But I still believe it is the most sophisticated navigation system available for PPC, I am just wondering whether something simpler would do for me. :roll:

Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
I have not heared about bluetooth receiver compatibility. It seems that not everything is going smoothly. By the way, the company producing this software was just taken over.
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I planned to buy the Fortuna clip-on gps bluetooth: so do u think with navigon it's not compatible?
Btw, i can purchase the navigon bundle with his bluetooth + Tmc receiver!
Any other thoughts?
Thx u all!

jag said:
Forget Destinator for a start.
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Why? I have read some review of destinator and it seems as simpler as Tom Tom!
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Destinator has a great deal of issues and it's latest version is no match for any of your other options, Consider CoPilot, TomTom or Navigon as your top three choices. Others worth considering are Deluo Routis, also sold as Socket MyNavigator and Intellinav amongst others.

I have found that navigon doesn't support custom POIs! is that right?
Another thing: a little very pleased feature in destinator is the possibility to read the phone number of certain POI like restaurant, bar, ecc; so the question is: has any of the other competitors the ability to do this?

I believe that with the POI handler Navigon does support custom POIs. Check the link I indicated above, it is in English.

Ok, that's right for the POIs, but for what concern telephone number?
Does anyone knows something?

no one?

I am currently using the Navigon older software 1.5 which also has RDS-TMC together with my MDAII .The TMC function is really useful and works in Germany, Belgium , UK - all these countries I have personally tested and have been rerouted and saved several times. The POI included in Navigon also work well some are already allocated but you can download more also some from POI handler and you this service you have to pay a yearly fee. ( for speed camera etc)
The advantages of Navigon are that you get the whole of Europe and the TMC function and no other extra costs except upgrades. Up to now I am very happy especially now since I also have a official carkit for the MDA II. I laugh at all my friends with thier expensive navi systems in their cars. Navigon , Tom tom etc are really not expensive if you compare them with car built in systems
I looked at Tom Tom but found the maps more clearer ( for myself ) Tom Tom uses teleAlas while the Navigon uses Navitech . The older software Navigon did not show your speed but the new one Navigon 4 does. Tom Tom also does have TMC but this needs to be downloaded via GPRS and adds to the cost.
Today ( WooHoo !!! ) I have recieved my software & hardware upgrade to Navigon|4 and as I am travelling these weeks and I will install it in the next few weeks.
I only opted for the upgrade as I can now use the bluetooth GPS reciever when I go cycling or walking.
Funny, when I was making my choice it was between Alturion & Navigon. I chose Navigon as all the right hardware was ready for The MDA II. I have never regreted buying navi software.
:lol:

Thx rafiki, and remember: I'd like to read here ur thoughts about this navi software! Of course, take it easy, do it when u can! I'll appreciate it very much!
Any news about extracting\reading phone numbers and any other type of infos from the electronic maps? :?:

WooHoo !!!! :lol:
A really good piece of software! I installed the navigon 4 yesterday and used all day today. Boy am i happy.
I got:-
Bluetooth ( modular with TMC)
I can see my Speed, atlitude, got a compass , est time of arrival , duration, inclication of road,
3D or bird eye view
perfect sound with my MDA II carkit with mute ( on software)
Adjustable volume
I can type in destinations or touch on the map via touch screen
I van also use voice command for stored destinations
All in all I am very happy!!!!!!
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDAII ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ? :?:

Thx Rafiki!!!
I think i'm gonna buy this software!

@ Jag!
Forgot to mention I work for an Italian Company! :lol:
Navigon comes in standard in 7 languages.
Here is a hand book you can download from Navigon in 7 languages.
http://www.navigon.de/downloads/consumer_products/Short_Manual_7_languages.pdf
also if you visit the site there is a lot of info in English , including screen shots. You can also order via the site.
good luck
Rafiki

Rafiki wrote:
By the way any one know how I can see which version of windows I have on My MDA II ? Pocket PC 2002 or mobile 2003 ?
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The XDA II/MDA II/QTEK 2020/imate all come with Windows Mobile 2003 - PPC2002 is not available for this platform.

@ BRosenow
Thanks mate! :lol:
Now I know which upgrade I need for my navi to make it Navigon 4.01
Regards
Rafiki

TY Rafiki!
Bye!!

Do any Application from Pocket pc 2003/se work on Mobile 5 ?

I wanna know if anybody know any applications or software that work's or is compatible windows Mobile 5 on the Wizard ?
Am sure the Java Games or apps should work.
Any one tried any that do ?

Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.

Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!

the_agent said:
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps

there is a big list of progs that are known to work/not work in the himalaya forum.
what i dont understand though is if the program is known to work ok on wk2k5 himalaya, will the same prog work on a k-jam which has a different kind of CPU? or is it all like PC's now where the make of the cpu doesnt really matter and that windows takes care of all that kind of stuff.

TechniKal said:
Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
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there is already a warning that tomtom 5 will not install properly through activesync 4, (files have to be transfered without activesync 4) this may also be why some other programs will seem to be incompatable with wm5?
so if you can transfer the program eg by card reader that you want to test, then install it, you may get better results.
mine should be arriving tomorrow
changing the subject slightly, ordered mine from http://www.smartdevicesdirect.com/index.php
very happy with the service.

www.wm5fixsite.com
Post your results, share with the world.

candrat said:
the_agent said:
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
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while i am waiting for my k-jam i thought i would try wisbar on my qtek s110 to see what it was like, i just want to point out that if i try to exit from wisbar the pda locks up and needs a soft reset?
not bothered but still may happen with k-jam as well

Software list compatible with win mobile 5 !!
check out his list i post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30256

MS AutoRoute for PPC & HTC Wizard

Has anyone tried to install the latest AutoRoute for PPC on a Windows Mobile 5 enviroment? Especially on the Wizard?

:shock: Is there a version of AR for the PPC, I thought this was a Windows application only, I'll be pleased if there is a PPC version now....

a18041967 said:
:shock: Is there a version of AR for the PPC, I thought this was a Windows application only, I'll be pleased if there is a PPC version now....
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I didnt think there was...
.... unless hes thinking of the Streets client where you can export maps of high detail... but that does not use a GPS ... least it didnt when I last used it.
Terran

I'm such an idiot. Apologies.
I meant the Streets in AutoRoute 2005 indeed. And now there is also a AR2006!
Anyway, has anyone tried it?

Great news!
(that's how I repay you for your lost time with my stupid question)
Pocket Streets now becomes Pocket AutoRoute and from version 2006 also supports GPS!!
More here.

Kensai said:
Great news!
(that's how I repay you for your lost time with my stupid question)
Pocket Streets now becomes Pocket AutoRoute and from version 2006 also supports GPS!!
More here.
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Intresting indeed..
Terran

Opera for O2 XDA Exec

I downloaded "Opera 8.00u1" on my O2 XDA Exec, and it didn't work. Windows extending out of screen display area, tried to play around but no success.
I wonder if this version works for Windows Mobile 2005 at all ?
Is opera availablef ro WM2005 at all?
cheers

From http://www.opera.com/winmobile/ ...
"
Software requirements
This release is only for Smartphone 2003. It will not work on Smartphone 2002 or Pocket PC devices.
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SiliconS said:
From http://www.opera.com/winmobile/ ...
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Software requirements
This release is only for Smartphone 2003. It will not work on Smartphone 2002 or Pocket PC devices.
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I downloaded on my imate jasjar. Opened Midlet manager. It works like a charm. There is space for improovement.

alex66 said:
I downloaded on my imate jasjar. Opened Midlet manager. It works like a charm. There is space for improovement.
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Cool! Opera is great on the desktop. Can you explain more about its strengths and weaknesses? Does it work in VGA mode?

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alex66 said:
I Does it work in VGA mode?
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yes, if you set the fonts to be smooth and small. Outstanding. A little bit of pain for your eyes, though.
Probably the rendering is more suitable for a portrait smartphone screen, but I think it will change when the definitive program will be released.
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I tried it a couple of months ago. Ignore that it only works on smartphones, worked fine on my XDAII (Mobile 2005). I think i just extracted the cabs out and installed it manually.
Gonna try it again on EXEC hopefully it will make browsing easier.

Anyone got MS Money working with WM2005?

I can't seem to get MS Money 2005 syncing with WM 2005. After reading the MS newsgroups it seems Money does not support syncing to WM2005 devices.
Has anyone got this to work or am I wasting my time trying?
Thanks for any advice

i use cash organizar and runs perfectlly
regards

ms money
I know how you feel. they need to fix this. soon. I spent hours yesterday trying to make this work.

It's really annoying... WM 2005 is their new flashy OS, but I can't use MS Money on it and I can't use my bluetooth stereo headphones either - both of which I could do on my XDA IIi... hmmmmmmmm

I have been trying to get this working myself since i got my k-jam in October 05. I recently read somewhere that the problem is due to WM5 not supporting the pocket access database that MS use in Money for PPC.
The same article said that there were plans to release a WM5 compatible version of Money for PPC but there were no timeframes mentioned.
I'll see if i can find the article again and post it here. Hopefully if a new version is released it will still sync with Money 2005 and / or other versions or everyone will be forced to upgrade the desktop version of money just to get the PPC version working.
Chris