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I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
Tekflow said:
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent
Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
I wanna know if anybody know any applications or software that work's or is compatible windows Mobile 5 on the Wizard ?
Am sure the Java Games or apps should work.
Any one tried any that do ?
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
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Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
there is a big list of progs that are known to work/not work in the himalaya forum.
what i dont understand though is if the program is known to work ok on wk2k5 himalaya, will the same prog work on a k-jam which has a different kind of CPU? or is it all like PC's now where the make of the cpu doesnt really matter and that windows takes care of all that kind of stuff.
TechniKal said:
Thanks for Reply
As soon as i get mine in a few days I will be testing it to the full. I will be downloading and installing many java games and apps and trying anything i get my hands on, on it. Tomtom Mobile 5 for definate !
I am sure many other Helpful people out there will be too, so Keep us posted All !!
Thanks to all those that do !!
Watch this Space !!
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there is already a warning that tomtom 5 will not install properly through activesync 4, (files have to be transfered without activesync 4) this may also be why some other programs will seem to be incompatable with wm5?
so if you can transfer the program eg by card reader that you want to test, then install it, you may get better results.
mine should be arriving tomorrow
changing the subject slightly, ordered mine from http://www.smartdevicesdirect.com/index.php
very happy with the service.
www.wm5fixsite.com
Post your results, share with the world.
candrat said:
the_agent said:
Tried to install the latest versions of Pocket Informant and SPB Pocket Plus on my I-mate K-Jam but neither worked. Still waiting for replies from tech support departments, will post outcome when I know more.
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SPB Pocket Plus works flawlessly in my BlueAngel WM5 machine, however, I feel that SPB P+ slowed down my device so I decided to use combination of iLauncher v2.2 (http://www.sbsh.net) and Wisbar Advance 2.4.1.9 (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com) which runs awesome (much faster than using SPB Pocket Plus)
As for pocket informant, you need to download WM5 version from here:
http://download.pocketinformant.com/FTF/PI_Public_Build/
I hope this helps
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while i am waiting for my k-jam i thought i would try wisbar on my qtek s110 to see what it was like, i just want to point out that if i try to exit from wisbar the pda locks up and needs a soft reset?
not bothered but still may happen with k-jam as well
Software list compatible with win mobile 5 !!
check out his list i post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30256
Has anyone tried to install the latest AutoRoute for PPC on a Windows Mobile 5 enviroment? Especially on the Wizard?
:shock: Is there a version of AR for the PPC, I thought this was a Windows application only, I'll be pleased if there is a PPC version now....
a18041967 said:
:shock: Is there a version of AR for the PPC, I thought this was a Windows application only, I'll be pleased if there is a PPC version now....
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I didnt think there was...
.... unless hes thinking of the Streets client where you can export maps of high detail... but that does not use a GPS ... least it didnt when I last used it.
Terran
I'm such an idiot. Apologies.
I meant the Streets in AutoRoute 2005 indeed. And now there is also a AR2006!
Anyway, has anyone tried it?
Great news!
(that's how I repay you for your lost time with my stupid question)
Pocket Streets now becomes Pocket AutoRoute and from version 2006 also supports GPS!!
More here.
Kensai said:
Great news!
(that's how I repay you for your lost time with my stupid question)
Pocket Streets now becomes Pocket AutoRoute and from version 2006 also supports GPS!!
More here.
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Intresting indeed..
Terran
The Remote Desktop Client in Crossbow is perfect: just the same as the desktop edition. The possibilty to run in true full screen, 16-bit colors, playing sounds through the Universal's speakers, has an exchangable clipboard, fast rendering, etc. etc.
The one (Terminal Services) in Windows Mobile 5.0 is not much compared to that new one.
Is there a possibility to run the Crossbow version in WM5, or is there a third party alternative, as good as the new RDP Mobile?
Thanks.
Hi,
No one knows?
z2 remote2pc is the best i think... colored.. you can download files from pc..
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=16879
here is the crossbow rdp program. works 10x better than tsc thats in wm5
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here is the crossbow rdp program. works 10x better than tsc thats in wm5
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I installed this on my PPC6700 WM5, and works great, except I can't use the keyboard . Any body else experience this?
Thanks, that's great!! The RDP works perfect as it should in Crossbow on a WM5 device.
Did you extract the RDP from a Crossbow ROM? If so, would it be possible to extract the new Internet Explorer Mobile as well?
Thanks again!!
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The Remote Desktop Client in Crossbow is perfect: just the same as the desktop edition. The possibilty to run in true full screen, 16-bit colors, playing sounds through the Universal's speakers, has an exchangable clipboard, fast rendering, etc. etc.
The one (Terminal Services) in Windows Mobile 5.0 is not much compared to that new one.
Is there a possibility to run the Crossbow version in WM5, or is there a third party alternative, as good as the new RDP Mobile?
Thanks.
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Nope, there aren't any REAL alternatives - see my related article at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288506 .
BTW, unrtunatey, the WM6 RDP client can't transfer files, unlike some of the H/PC .NET implementations - and, of course, the desktop Windows one
It is working on Smartphone WM5
I just installed this on my wm5 smartphone and it is working just fine
you need SPHelper to emulate mouse pointer
THANKS
thisguyinoc said:
I installed this on my PPC6700 WM5, and works great, except I can't use the keyboard . Any body else experience this?
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Keyboard disabled for me too, WM5 on an XDA-Exec. Bit of shame really...would be nice if someone had found a fix already...
A solution that work is to use the Windows virtual keyboard (somewhere in accessories). It's like the PPC keyboard, but on the remote computer. It works... Until a better fix...
Regards
Works perfect with Blueangel WM5 AKU 3.5
works in 256 color and in 16 bit color
sound works, hardware and software keyboards work
Any update on the keyboard issue
I got really excited about this until I also found the non-working keyboard issue (on an HTC Tytn/Hermes) - any likelihood that this will be fixed and any timescale?
Thanks
Wm6 TS Keyboard working
linker3000 said:
I got really excited about this until I also found the non-working keyboard issue (on an HTC Tytn/Hermes) - any likelihood that this will be fixed and any timescale?
Thanks
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Install the app in the RAM instead of the memorycard and you're done.
WM6 Mobile & Remote Desktop Windows Vista
I shot a video (windows Vista on my Windows Mobile) - It works a charm
Have a look at the video if you feel you can spare 10 minutes
p.s:: I was experimenting with iMovie HD on my Macbook and got this video made,lemme know if I need to improve
Link for the video :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d589LnIGW9o
Sorry for the quality : Was using my windows Mobile's Camera and iSight!!
Fullscreen
Hi.
I manage to got it work on my Loox n560, keyboar also work when installed it in main memory, but when I switch to full screen mode then keyboard isn't availible anymore and also can't switch back to normal mode from full screen. How do you switch back to normal mode?
Either soft key for me gets out of full screen, on universal
The program works fine on my SPV M3100 as an RDP client except even when the 'Save Password' box is checked, it doesn't actually save the password !
Do I need to install something else to get this working ?
thx dude, works fine for me with windows mobile 6 on eten x500
RDP does not work for me
Hi all,
I installed the RDP on my xda orbit WM6. When I try to connect my Laptop (XP Prof. SP2) reacts like desdcribed in other forums (changing to the log-in screen). But on my xda I can't see the remote desktop. Just under a second I can see a picture (looks like a message with a button) but then the display goes black and after some seconds an error message comes that the connection can't be established. Does anyone have an idea what I do wrong?
Just installed this new rdp. It works like a charm.
Except I want to use the Function keys I've got on my keypad. So that when I press F12 in Excell that it opens "save as" or F5 to use "go to".
Grtz
Hi, someone here wrote that it is impossible to create office 2007 cab file. I tried it and here is a result... Download the cab file and install it, then reset the device. It works only on WM6 for now, but I'll try to make it for WM5 too.
Tested on Wizard WM6 (5.2.318 Build 15342.0.0.0).
Download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/35775212/jimm98y_office2007.CAB.html
Here is new version:
+ executables are compressed
+ fixed uninstall bug with deleting icons
- still doesn't work on WM5
Download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/35900969/jimm98y_office2007.CAB.html
Download mirror: http://sharegadget.com/563261821 - working (6.5.2008)
nice, i will try..let see if realy works and dont dupe the office
works without any problem (Most Beautiful WM6) at Wizard. Thanks
diky moc
works here too with core 2.0n
sorry for sounding so ignorant but what exactly is this.... mobile office 2007??
afaik it is an update to the three mobile office applications to support the new office 2007 fileformat.
but does it add any other features?
yes, there is a new application One Note Mobile...
Jimm98y said:
yes, there is a new application One Note Mobile...
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on my wm5 device i can install it with onenote 2007 on my pc.
what is new in this app? the normal notes application seems to be more useful.
Is there anything in the Cab that is making it an only Wizard cab?
No, it should work on every QVGA WM6 device
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No, it should work on every QVGA WM6 device
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I agree, I just went through the cab, good work, doesn't appear to have anything device specific, Thanks.
What program did you use for building the cab, just curious.
I used cabwiz.exe for ppc and the *.inf file, because I think that it's the best way of making cabs...
Jimm98y said:
I used cabwiz.exe for ppc and the *.inf file, because I think that it's the best way of making cabs...
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Any idea where I can download, I don't want to download the entire SDK tools.
WM5
Top stuff, any news on a WM5 version
worked on my Black 3, Thanks, but it takes about 5-6MBs off the device memory.. that's just too much
Great stuff!
Works on a SDK-image too, but only on the English ones. I tried it on a Dutch SDK, but that won't work.
Installation worked flawless on my German WM6 ROM with my Herald. No Problems opening a .docx file, but Excel won't start at all.
X_Farhad said:
worked on my Black 3, Thanks, but it takes about 5-6MBs off the device memory.. that's just too much
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How did it only take 5 - 6 MB of Storage Memory. Mine dropped from 20.11mb down to 6.91mb. . . WAAAYYY too much for me. Too bad, too. . . it was working flawlessly . . . and I really wanted the OneNote app, too.
Disregard that. . . DOH!! After I deleted the .cab file, I gained back almost 7MB of Storage Space. . . a little more "liveable" now.
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How did it only take 5 - 6 MB of Storage Memory. Mine dropped from 20.11mb down to 6.91mb. . . WAAAYYY too much for me. Too bad, too. . . it was working flawlessly . . . and I really wanted the OneNote app, too.
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this version is realy large...
that why anyone use on rom...if you dont have office 2007 on your pc...is beter keep the old
Running WM6 Business Edition.
Took about 6mb of space on my phone.
All 4 apps ran fine.
I could not remove it using the remove programs control panel app.