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Did a search for SD cards and it came up with a SIM EMU post on this site. So going off topic, whats SIM EMU, what can it do for me, where can i get it (tried the link, that didn't work, tried a search and most of the sites aren'ti n english)
Seems like you can put more than one number on a card and switch without having to turn the phone off. Any further input, sounds like it could be good.
Will not work in UK, I found to my cost after destroying 2 sim cards. There is another twin sim holder that works with xda2 though, you just switch off and on when you wish to change sims.
Simemu is indeed a very good way to have up to eight numbers/accounts on one sim card. You select which one to use by pin number, so no more swapping cards over. It works fine in the XDA and just about any other unlocked phone.
The hard part is getting the needed info out of your original sim card. This is called the "Ki" and needs to be extracted. In the UK this has only been possible with all Orange and some O2 cards, never with Vodafone.
In the last year or so, some sims have appeared with a limit on the number of cycles they will run before self destructing, so attempting to extract the Ki can harm the card.
So it all depends on what networks you want to use and how old your sims are.
So can this be done with orange UK sims? My sims are about 4 years old, i have one thats much older, but i cancelled the contract on that so presumably disabled. Also have a couple of active PAYG sims.
I'd be interested to merge the new contract i have with an old number on the same card, would be useful.
I'm currently using everyphone divert, but it diverts all the time, even when my new [hone is off and old one is on. Annoying.
Other pain is it doesn't divert SMS, so i quite often miss them.
Yes, UK Orange cards of this age should be easy to extract the Ki from, payg or contract.
Also if you manage to get the Ki from the de-activated card, you should be able to get Orange to turn it back on as a payg or something.
Remember that only one number can be active at any one time, and you must never have the original sim turned on in another phone while using the copy of it in the multi sim.
Thanks for your replys kerr.
Have you done this yourself? Do you have any links of where i can find out information on how to effeectively try it and get it done?
All i'm looking for is that i have a sim with a great number. Its on orange no monthly tariff (i just pay for calls and just get a bill when i use it) Thats great for me as i hardly use it.
Then i got a new phone on contract (as it was way cheaper than upgrade). I've set up an everyphone divert from my old number to this one, but that annoys me as even with new one off and old one on, it still diverts. Shame.
So if i could get both numbers on the same sim that would be great, in principal! I get my number that i like, and i can quickly swith to new number to make calls (as its got free minutes). After the year contract is up i'll dump the new number anyway.
Whay can't you have the original sim on if its cloned?
Cheers
If you have the original sim switched on at the same time as the clone the system will know about it and you will probaly end up with a zapped sim courtesy of your provider.
there has to be a way around that :wink:
Have you done this yourself?
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Yes, I made a card about 2 1/2 years ago which contains:-
1X O2 Anytime account
1X O2 Offpeak account
1X Genie PAYT
3X Orange PAYT with different off peak times chosen
1X Spanish PAYT
1X Greek PAYT
It has worked fine in every phone I have tried it in.
Whay can't you have the original sim on if its cloned?
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You must not have them both on at the same time because they will both log onto the network and appear to be some kind of fraud attempt. (Somone else trying to use your account)
You really need to programme the card yourself rather than get it done because the last thing you would want is anyone else knowing your Ki.
To do this you would need a phoenix, a pic programmer and a blank silver card. All the software is free.
That sounds like one action packed card!
It would be useful just to have a couple of numbers on there, but you seem to be making the most of it!
Where can the exquipment be bought, borrowed? Is it readily available and cheap?
I see what you mean about someone else having the details. Could be a bit dodgy.
So this method is a bit like having a double sim car thing, but instead of having to turn the machine on and off, you can just put in a pin number.
With the XDA II tho, would the double sim card thing work if you turned flight mode off then on, would that switch the sims? Where can a double sim holder be got from
If you know anyone who is into Satellite Television, they will almost certainly have everything you need to do the job.
If you need to buy take a look at www.interesting-devices.com or www.maxking.co.uk. You could also look in the sat section on ebay.
If you go for a multi programmer like a Mastera, it would be all that is needed in one. See www.mcsat.co.uk.
When you change between numbers the phone does a soft reset, so I imagine flight mode on/off would have the same effect on a twin sim.
Using Supersim
Hello,
i read somewere that's impossible with new sim to read the Ki code of the sim because this code is read-protected.
Tring to read this you can destroy the sim.
It's correct?
I have an italian sim by vodafone!
Thanks for the reply.
Davide
Yes, that's right. Most of the newest SIM cards has a newer algorithm, so u cannot clone it. I don't know about your SIM card, maybe you have an old one. However, if U have 250 entry names in your phonebook, than it's probably new one and it could not be read, but do not be afraid to destroy it..., that will happen if U'l try to read it a few hours again and again....hope this helps!
Regards!
P.S.:
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only.
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorythm to code KI key.
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan 65536 times. If the scan is over 65536, the SIM Card will be locked. This SIM Card will not work any more.
All backUp function support A3A8 COMP128V1 SIM Card only.
This SIM Card Back-UP device doesn't support newest SIM Card that uses COMP128V2 algorythm to code KI key.
Some GSM SIM Cards from 2001 (COMP128V1) are Scan-Limited. It has limited running scan 65536 times. If the scan is over 65536, the SIM Card will be locked. This SIM Card will not work any more.
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Hello,
i read somewere that's impossible with new sim to read the Ki code of the sim because this code is read-protected.
Tring to read this you can destroy the sim.
It's correct?
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Ki is stored in SIM card like CHV in respective file, but in Ki file's header all permission bytes are FF, e. g. it is impossible to read/write etc. with this file from external. From internal (COS) it is possible to read... the SIM do this when it calculate SRES+Kc
Hallo,
I have ordered a newQtek 2020 and next wednesday it wil arrive in the shop.
Can I immediately check if the gsm functin works ?
My previous gsm is a Motorola Timeport and it works with prepaid cards.
Is it possible to take the simcard from the Motorola and plg it into the Qtek ?
Will it work ? Or is a simcard always dedicated to just 1 gsm?
Sorry for this weird and maybe stupid question, but I really do not know...
Thanks in advance !
The i-Mate usually come Simfree, which means you can plug any SIM card in and use it at once.
When you got to the store to pick it up, immediately, plug your sim in, and activate the device, you shoukd register your carrier at once.
try to make a phone call to check.
Just put your previous SIM card into the Qtek, no other card needed.
But there is a "new" SIM card with more memory and wich is quicker for GPRS connextion. Asks your GSM provider it's free ans they will download your registred contact phone nmbr from your SIM to the new one.
OK, Thx for these quick reply's !!!
Hi there,
Some time ago I purchased a KING OF DOUBLE CARD for my MDA Compact. It seems however that this card is not functioning in my PPC.
I am using a MDA Compact with the original T-Mobile ROM. I only partly installed the cabs because I wanted to get rid of the ugly T-mobile colours.
Could someone please provide me with some help?:
1st: does anyone make use of the KING OF DOUBLE CARD
2nd: What Rom do you have
3rd: Do I have to install something in addition?
etc etc.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards
Wilfried
dont know any answers, but I do have a question...how did you make it fit?
I thought it didnt fit in the HTC Magician....so I bought another and carved up my SIMs
works fine though, using Wivit SIm Status Switcher with it to switch SIMs..
you could try it, its a great app
which model did you buy? what do you mean by "carved up my SIMS"?
He probably means a ghost sim, where you cut the chips out of two sim cards and out them into the ghost sim which is normal sim size.
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Double SIM work fine on my XDA mini
Hello all,
Just want to share some info, I use Almighty Bicard on my XDA mini, and it's working fine on it, just turn on your flight mode, then turn off your flight mode than you will get your second SIM.
Or you can use SIM master or SIM MAX, it can handled 8/12 SIM no. on 1 SIM card, but some time you have problem to scan your original SIM card.
Thanks, Vireman
Can you point me to the specific dual sim you use??
I bought the ghost sim and couldn't get it to work, I tried on 4 old sim cards and decided not to cut up my work sim and personal sim.
I have been looking for the other typoes which take the full sim cards.
On another note it may not work because you will need to get the T-Mobile phone unlocked to work with another companies SIM.
My work sim is o2 and would only work after the MDA was unlocked.
You can phone T-Mobile ans they will send you the code to do this for £15.
Hallo ishgrnod,
I use Almighty Bicard, You need to cut your SIM chip and put it together on Almighty Bicard. It work like a switcher, If you restart your phone it will switch to another SIM.
Mostly in my country there no phone lock from the operator, I think your problem come from this side.
Thx. Vireman
Isn't there a universal phone unlocker already on the forums?
I use this cut up dual sim in the UK:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415916094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
from this user:
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=slam1416&iid=6415916094&frm=284
Works fine. Just have a steady hand when you cut, measure twice, cut once
I use an O2 contract and orange PAYG. Some reports say O2 contract doesn't work. Mine does, no problems.
V
I bought a King Of Double Card for my MDA Compact. I cannot get it to fit at all.
I don't really want to chop up my SIM cards either :?
OK, UPDATE:
I got it to fit but the phone will not recognize the cards. I'm using WiViT SIM Status Switcher.
Can anyone suggest recommend a different tool ?
I'm on
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Radio : 1.12.10
ExtROM : 1.12.131 WWE
WiViT isn't likely to be the problem - it just reads the operator from your network, and the sim phone number stored in your Sim; you may not have one stored in there (I bloody didn't and thought my EVC programming was at fault). See WiViT's faq, or basically open up Sim Manager on your phone.
But, ignore wivit, just ensure you can make a telephone call with either sim. Then, switch over with STK or flight mode off/on and see if you can make a call with the other Sim. If that works, then your problem is with WiViT. If it doesn't your problem is with the sims. See my other posts on these cut up sims - basically, i think Magician doesn't put enough pressure on the back of the "mini sims", and you need to stick some paper down the back of the metal sleave.
V
PS See the thread on Magician today screens to see my Wivit type software...
Hey V, thanks for the advice...
My problem was down to the single SIM end of the Dual SIM not making contact with the connectors in the phone. I have the King Of Double Card Type, as shown in my crude mockup below. ( I dont dare take mine out to take a picture since it took me all evening to get it in right. So please excuse the picture.)
WiViT is working perfectly now, i made sure my own numbers were stored correctly as you suggested, and all is well.
The only problem is, the back of my MDAc is slightly out...but i can live with that i guess (until the MDA Pro (HTC Universal) is released)
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am interested in using my 2g O2 sim & my 3g O2 sim in the exec, as i have 2 separate contracts. What product would you recommend? will the XDA II ghost dual sim holder fit/work? and is the combination of 2g & 3g sims possible? Thanks
dual sim holder
just oredred an xda exec and have the same query regarding dual sim holders. i will be using orange and 3 network sim. has anyone found out if the xda2s dual sim holder is compatible with this device?? thanks in advance
How do these work then? Say I'm using one sim for voice and one for data, obviously I can't use both at the same time (or can I?). So, when I want to go online, do I press some key combo and then the handset soft resets? Can it be made to automatically redirect all calls to the other sim and then cancel diverts when I swap back?
normally 2 sim cards go into a holder and the holder has a single sim which goes into the phone. you turn phone on and ONLY ONE sim card is active the other is effectivtly off. turn phone off and on (in our case flight mode) and the SECOND sim is active and first one is off. with some software from wivit you can actually control which sim is on/off from the phone itsel without switching phone on/off and some digital holders provide that facility via STK software built into the XDA phones. that is how twin sims work, but the main question is has anyone tried this with the EXEC model just yet???
So xiasma you could use one for voice and one for data and try to remember which one is on and which is off.
just to update everyone
i took the gamble and bought a dual sim card holder designed for the II/IIi and tried it in my EXEC, and............ IT DIDNT FIT!!! hehehe
guess we'll have to wait for a dedicated EXEC dual sim holder
ishaqmir said:
just to update everyone
i took the gamble and bought a dual sim card holder designed for the II/IIi and tried it in my EXEC, and............ IT DIDNT FIT!!! hehehe
guess we'll have to wait for a dedicated EXEC dual sim holder
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I made it fit!!
I have the same dual sim card holder and in order to make it fit I removed Exec's sim card holder. You can easily remove it by pulling it carefully out. It's pretty easy. Afterwards, place the dual sim card without the sim holder and overturn it. Then place the battery over it and with little push you'll hear the "clip" sound which means that the battery is placed. Finally, place the plastic cover and voila!
nope, tried it. there is no way u can place it under the battery without causing IMMENSE pressure underneath it. will wait till they release one that can lay over the battery as opposed to under it.
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nope, tried it. there is no way u can place it under the battery without causing IMMENSE pressure underneath it. will wait till they release one that can lay over the battery as opposed to under it.
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Yes, actually a dual sim holder that could lay over the battery would be better.
However, it's not that bad as you describe. Did you REMOVE the pda's sim card holder before trying doing what I did?? This way you gain more space under the battery.
Hi all
Demon could u please tell us whether u used both 3g n 2 g sim cards with ur daul sim adapter and did u had any problems when u mixed a 2g sim with 3g sim?
Also did any body tried trimming of sims as required for NEW universal digital dual sim as shown on this website
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
Looking forward for more input from others as i definately need a solution to avoid carrying another mob with my Exec.
Thanx in adance
Jatt
jatt said:
Hi all
Demon could u please tell us whether u used both 3g n 2 g sim cards with ur daul sim adapter and did u had any problems when u mixed a 2g sim with 3g sim?
Also did any body tried trimming of sims as required for NEW universal digital dual sim as shown on this website
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
Looking forward for more input from others as i definately need a solution to avoid carrying another mob with my Exec.
Thanx in adance
Jatt
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No, I haven't tried to mix a 2g sim card with a 3g one. Ive done it only wit h 2g ones.
I have also trimmed cards but not for this specific dual card holder. I did it for another one that you had to switch off the phone and on again to change the active number and it worked pretty well.
Hi Demon
Thanx for quick reply
Whats the name of ur dual sim holder which ur using for exec and is this the one which i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...450764652QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And also
Do u hav to switch on and off to use the other sim card or is it the one which gives u a option to choose from sim 1 and sim2 without switching it off?
Thanx again
Jatt
jatt said:
Hi Demon
Thanx for quick reply
Whats the name of ur dual sim holder which ur using for exec and is this the one which i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...450764652QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And also
Do u hav to switch on and off to use the other sim card or is it the one which gives u a option to choose from sim 1 and sim2 without switching it off?
Thanx again
Jatt
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It's the one you have to switch off and on again your phone and I bought it for my XDA IIs I had before from the guy of your link.
Just bear in mind that sometimes it doesn't work on Exec. I mean that even if you switch off and on again, the sim card doesn't change and you've got to do it again. I don't know why this happens, I didn't have such problems with this dual sim card on my XDA IIs.
Did anyone manage to find a dual sim holder that works with 3G USIMs?
I could really do with one, but am struggling to find one
hi
i am awaiting delivery of 2 different type of dual sims,
one which requires the sim card to be trimmed
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7710&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
jatt said:
hi
i am awaiting delivery of 2 different type of dual sims,
one which requires the sim card to be trimmed
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....7710&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
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Please let us know about your experience as soon as you try them!
jatt said:
also i will try a sim card reader/writer if both of above fails
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-USB-MAGIC...ryZ27330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Have anybody tried this sim card reader/writer, they claim that it can write up to 12 sim info on one sim and u can use any one by just changing it from the options in menu
Any way will post my experience with both 3g and 2g sim cards and with their combination
But if anybody knows anything about this reader/writer please post here ..
Jatt
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For a start that's a fake product, so god knows how it will perform.
see here http://www.sim-max.com/?language=en...d.php&main=newspage.php&down=en_copyright.htm
I have a sim max reader and 12 in 1 card, but they only work with V1 sim cards (All I've managed to clone is a cpl of really old Orange sim cards)
All the others either just don't copy, or don't copy and feck your sim card!
Nice idea tho :roll:
Hi Hollinshead
Were u able to use them as advertised , like change to different no.s and were able to make calls with them (the old orange sim cards u copied)?
Jatt
jatt said:
Hi Hollinshead
Were u able to use them as advertised , like change to different no.s and were able to make calls with them (the old orange sim cards u copied)?
Jatt
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Yeah it works fine with the orange sim cards, its an amazing piece of kit, not cheap tho!
If only it would work with v1.2 and v2 sims it would be mint!
jatt said:
the other will take 2 sims with out cutting sim cards
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-No-Cut-Du...ryZ43805QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I emailed the seller about this item.
Ebay Question said:
Question from hollinshead
Item: ** NEW (No Cut) Dual Sim Card Holder** (6452231121)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
hollinshead is a potential buyer.
Will this work with 3G USIM cards?
Thanks, David.
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And I got the following reply back :?
Ebay Responce said:
Response from d.d.isk
Item: ** NEW (No Cut) Dual Sim Card Holder** (6452231121)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
d.d.isk is the seller.
Sorry No
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hi
its still not clear whether it will work and their r issues that even if it works will it fit?
Have a look at these links which talk about dual sims for 3g phones and
O2 exec
Will get at least one of them by saturaday and will post result for a trimmed pay as u go 3g sim and later about the un cut one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/xda-IIs-III-L...451816766QQcategoryZ43805QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.irwebonline.com/acatalog/O2_XDA_Exec_Twin_Sim_Cover_-_Ghost_Dual_Sim.html
http://www.freeyourmobile.biz/acatalog/dual_sim_cards_.html
http://www.speedsafe.co.uk/category.php?id=29
and also there is lots of talk about STK function which gives u option to switch sims online, dont know whether it will work on exec?
Demon can u elaborate how did u managed to fit that dual sim holder, r u using it now and any problems
i m bit fearful about playing with sim holder
ok bye
I am about to get my MDA sometime next week and as far as I know it is SIM locked (probably CID locked too). I am a Cingular customer and only have a Cingular and ATT SIM cards at my disposal.
My question is: Do I absolutely must have a T-Mobile SIM card in order to unlock the phone? Will I be able to unlock it w/o having any SIM card in? What if I stick my Cingular/ATT SIM cards?
Also - does the tutorial over here on how to SIM unlock it would also CID unlock it?
Thanks!
bump!
I unlocked my MDA without the SIM card.
guxu said:
I unlocked my MDA without the SIM card.
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how did you do that?
ump!
I also unlocked my MDA without a T-Mobile SIM card...
just get lokiwiz
it helps to read the forums instead of bumping your own thread (twice within 8 hours is excessive)... people will just ignore it some more.
Hi: I'm new here. This forum seems like a great place to hang out! Where can I d/l the latest lokiwiz? I've searched for the last 1/2 hour for a working link. Thanx!
Found the answer. Sorry for the wasted post.
MDA Vario unlocking
Im new here can any1 help me to unlock ma MDA Vario which ive just bought from ebay n itz lock on T-Mobile and i dont have T-Mobile sim,thank you v much
so basically the phone should work fine as a PDA with a sim in it... right?
yes. you should still be able to use it as a pda. you just wont get any signal for calls.
Well, I am a proud owner of a working MDA. I love my baby!