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GPRS for desktop PC

Guys, I'm sorry for inconvenience but I haven't any idea how to use the GPRS internet on the desktop computer via USB Cradle. I have a 4.0.0.5 ROM and MS Active Sync 3.7
Thank you for your help!

Hi ...
I 'm not sure there is a solution for this since by using the GPRS your XDA itself will have an IP address. So, it can't be used as a modem ( I might be wrong tho :shock: ).
I think it's better to get a PC card adaptor with a SIM slot for GPRS. The same for WiFi cards.
Good luck

french said:
Guys, I'm sorry for inconvenience but I haven't any idea how to use the GPRS internet on the desktop computer via USB Cradle. I have a 4.0.0.5 ROM and MS Active Sync 3.7
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No easy solution exists (yet...). You need to hook the device up using a serial cable, and then run a ROM-included tool called 'wmodem.exe'. (Tool is only present on some 3.x ROMs, and cannot be used on ROM it isn't included with), or use a really crappy wmethod we came up with a long time ago, using the bootloader.
Both methods require the serial cable, and when you ask our opinion, both methods suck, although the former method sucks less than the latter.

And to add both methodes are slowwwwwww, i mean the connection speed is slow.
:?

Hi Peter Poelman ...
You need to hook the device up using a serial cable, and then run a ROM-included tool called 'wmodem.exe'. (Tool is only present on some 3.x ROMs,
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I have the wmodem since I use 3.18 ROM, but it didn't work except for GSM data connection (not GPRS link). I believe this is because when you use GPRS the XDA becomes the destination IP address not a modem anymore ... or I didn't use the right setup ???

Try dialing "*99#"

Try dialing "*99#"
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it gives a pop-up "Waiting ..." with OK button

Since the PocketPC hase it's owne IP adresse on my personnel network (ping from laptop to pocketpc) it must be possbile to develope a pocketpc proxy gateway.
we could then (using activeSync for LAN connection) connect to the internet via the pocketpc proxy.
Has any one developped or heard about such a software??? :idea:

yann said:
Since the PocketPC hase it's owne IP adresse on my personnel network (ping from laptop to pocketpc) it must be possbile to develope a pocketpc proxy gateway.
we could then (using activeSync for LAN connection) connect to the internet via the pocketpc proxy.
Has any one developped or heard about such a software??? :idea:
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It's not that easy, we looked into it.
Problem is that as soon as the XDA sits in the cradle, the GPRS internet loses its interface, which is then taken by the PPP link to ActiveSYnc running on the desktop. We have not managed to keep up the GPRS and the ActiveSync at the same time.
We're presently convinced the easy answer lies in a tool that presents a fake serial port on the desktop which, via USB and ActiveSync, connects to something like wmodem on the XDA. Let's wait for wmodem or something like it to appear on WM2003, and then we'll see if we can cook up something.

I've used Wmodem, I've used the bootloader method. Wmodem wasn't bad, just not always reliable, and it doesn't exist for PPC 2003 devices. But I finally came up with a great, reliable, and much faster solution.
USE ANOTHER PHONE! :wink: I just swap the SIM and use a T300 via IR when I need to get a connection on my laptop. That way I get GPRS speed (Wmodem seemed stuck at 9600) also.

XDA developer Peter Poelman said:
yann said:
Since the PocketPC hase it's owne IP adresse on my personnel network (ping from laptop to pocketpc) it must be possbile to develope a pocketpc proxy gateway.
we could then (using activeSync for LAN connection) connect to the internet via the pocketpc proxy.
Has any one developped or heard about such a software??? :idea:
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It's not that easy, we looked into it.
Problem is that as soon as the XDA sits in the cradle, the GPRS internet loses its interface, which is then taken by the PPP link to ActiveSYnc running on the desktop. We have not managed to keep up the GPRS and the ActiveSync at the same time.
We're presently convinced the easy answer lies in a tool that presents a fake serial port on the desktop which, via USB and ActiveSync, connects to something like wmodem on the XDA. Let's wait for wmodem or something like it to appear on WM2003, and then we'll see if we can cook up something.
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I solved that problem when checked on the "Allow network and remote access service server connection with this desktop computer", so when you plugging your MDA to the craddle GPRS shuts down, but if you click to reconnect it turns on and working properly while my device is in its craddle. I thought that if my desktop pc using a standart connection to the internet gives internet access to my PPC via active sync (gprs is off) then there must be a way to use gprs connection back from PPC to the desktop PC. :shock:

I've also tried to have a GRPS connection while my ActiveSync connection is on and it works well.
On my pocket PC get two IP adresses, cellular Line IP address (Internet) an Serial on USB IP address (LAN).
Si I guess the only way to get full GPRS via a laptop would be to directly integrate a proxy gateway on the Pocket PC, no need to play or to wait for the wmodem.exe to be integrated for PPC 2003 since we have LAN and Internet connection at the same time on the PPC
Next steep would be to find or program a proxy gateway for PPC.
Any ideas :?:
cheers.
yann

Internet via bluetooth?

Hi all
Firstly apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. Searching bluetooth returns ... too many results to sift through.
OK, I have this setup. I connect my laptop to the net using either the router OR network cable. My laptop is equipped with BT.
Is there any way to browse the net from my PDA, by establishing a BT connection from XDA2 to the Laptop?
I know it would be a doddle (I hope) if I were to purchase a wifi SD card, but if I can avoid the expense it would be great.
Thanks in advance.

One way would be through BlueTooth ActiveSync. As when in the cradle, when your PPC is connected to your PC through ActiveSync, internet connectivity is through the PC. I use it whenever I am in proximity to my BT laptop. Works well!

If you go to Options in ActiveSync, click the Rules tab, check Open ActiveSync when my mobile device connects. and have the Connection set to The Internet or Work depending how your network is set up. Then establish an ActiveSync connection (USB, serial, Bluetooth or IrDA) and it will allow you use Internet programs like PocketIE, Pocket Outlook, etc.[/b]

I thank you both for your very very quick response.
Yes, both methods work. YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I am one happy bunny.
Cheers

Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!

Going insane bluetooth activesync internet
I wish I could be so happy. Let me give a brief overview of the last 6 hours:
Installed bluetooth dongle on the work PC - eventually got it connecting to the XDA2.
I have now managed to get a connection with activesync which seems to be quite robust and synchronises ok.
I am now trying to get on the internet via my active sync bluetooth connection (and tearing my hair out)
My network management is now set to a new connection I have created call 'My Work' no modem set up with the proxy settings set to those required on my work LAN. No VPN set up.
Have set the pass through on the PC to work, internet and open activesync to enable and disable but can't get ti to connect. Please help!!!!!

maybe it's a firewall issue
try messing around with the ping program
on your pocketpc and see if you can ping the ip of your computer
and on it's gateway and dns
also make sure your dns settings on your pocketpc is set to the same as your pc
pocket ping
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=11879

Thanks for the advice. Bit stumped really:
My PC has a static IP address (10.130.16.84) I run pocket ping on the XDA and it says it's IP address is 192.168.55.101 the network is DHCP enabled. Neither of them can ping the other one (so there is no way I can connect to the proxy from my XDA2). Any ideas why my IP address isn't in our LAN range.
Just out of interest I can use a Dell X3i and connect to the network wirelessly no problem at all.

Further to baffle everyone - If i disconnect bluetooth and cradle it. I get the same Ip address but can connect to the internet no problem! So this would lead me to believe that all the connection and activesync settings are correct.

not sure here are some guides
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?ContentId=449

Thanks for the help but the guides didn't fix the problem.
I eventually got it working (and a better bluetooth connection in the process) by downloading the slightly newer version of the XTND Blue Manager software http://www.windigosys.com/support.htm
I can now suft the internet on the XDA over activesync and syncrhonise files ok. Slightly slow but this I expect with what is basically a glorified serial port!
The only slight niggle I have now is that ActiveSync always reverts back to COM1 as the default port when I reboot my machine. Is there any way to stick it to com3?

it's blazing away at 700K/sec at least so the specs says

Terminal Services Client via Activesync

Hi all, this is my first post on xda developers (best site i've seen for xda related stufff).
Anyway my query relates to remote desktop control on the pocket pc. I've used the microsoft client (whatever its called) to connect and manipulate my xda 2 on my pc, but now I'm looking to do the opposite: view and control my pc desktop from my Xda.
I have an application that is meant to do this (remote desktop), and i'm sure it would work, though it wants to connect via gprs/wap. I am wanting to connect via activesync ( specificaly bluetooth activesnyc ).
I was told Terminal Services Client was the program to use, but I cant work it out. I've tried connecting on my pc's name and ip with the pc (xp pro) set to receive incoming connections, but i keep getting connection errors...
I can't find any help relating to this type of scenario on the net , so if anyone can help it'd be appreciated.
Cheers

you have to turn it one in systems of your pc
then you have to make a connection to the pc from the pda
then you start therminal services and type in the name of the pc
and you are there

Despite being connected by activesync, my xda 2 still trys to connect via wap (preseumably because it sees the GPRS in use already).
Has anyone setup terminal service client to work under similar conditions?

Wacking another post on this to try and grab someones attention...
Terminal services client via activesync on xp pro... has anyone seen or got a tutorial? I try using my pc's name as the login and believed I have enabled everything I'm supposed to on my PC , but still can't get it to work. I'm sure I've just missed something somewhere on the PC, but can't think what for the life of me....
Any help would be really appreciated.

well you should prob disconnect gprs
and maybe set the network to work or home or how ever you set it on under connections
my problem is as soon as i login with my xda2 then my normal user on the pc get disconnected and that disable activesync kicking off my therminal services client (the xda2)

Rudegar said:
well you should prob disconnect gprs
and maybe set the network to work or home or how ever you set it on under connections
my problem is as soon as i login with my xda2 then my normal user on the pc get disconnected and that disable activesync kicking off my therminal services client (the xda2)
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I'm activesync'd with my PC so the GPRS connection is via the PC if it wasn't there I don't believe I could get anywhere with terminal services.... as I said when I try and connect it doesn't find my PC's name and so begins looking for it on the net... which for some reason it tries to look for on wap (connects itself).
What I need to / want to know is what settings people have setup on their pc, and how having a firewall effects it?

unless your pc's modem is another xda then your gprs is not going though your pc
gprs is cellphone only
under connections you need to set up a network which dont connect to gprs

I have Terminal Services Client working fine on my XDAII to connect via 802.11b to a Win 2k Server. As far as I know the Terminal Server has to be an actual server and not just a ordinary PC.

i doubt it because on this xp pro i could use therminal services
when i turned it on
the only problem was that i could not use activesync as the connection
because when i login'd with my pda i the normal user on the pc would be loged out disabling activesync

Thanks for the post. spent a while trying to config before i read this.
Is there a way i can use remote assistance from my xda2. What i want is to use my xda remote desktop as a remote control for playing my mp3s and vids direct on my pc

you could use vnc if therminal services will not work without logging the desktop user off and so disabling the activesync connection

controlling vids and mp3 i cannot help but what i did was that... i switch user in the win xp pro and login using the terminal client so in other words the active sync connection will not disconnect. but i don't like the idea of having the whole desktop on my PPC it sucks having lesser space to control the computer but remote desktop connection is bette but tis a demo version that i can get hold off. Thinking of purchasin the full version soon once i have a stable bluetooth connection. my BT range sucks.

XDA 2, Bluetooth, Activesync Passthrough - so close !

Hi,
I have an XDA 2 (Rom 1.72 - the o2 standard one)
I am using the standard MS BT stack on the XDA
On my PC (Windows XP SP2) I have a Tecom BT3030 using the WIDCOM 1.3.2.7 stack.
Activesync (3.8) via bluetooth works perfectly (hurah!)
I can also get onto IRC, MSN and the web via the XDA when the Activesync connection is established.
However,
If I set activesync pass-through to "Work" I can only access my LAN.
If I set it to "The Internet" then I can only access the internet.
Trouble is.... I need both :wink:
Is there a way of forcing activesync on the PC to let me use both, or a way of forcing it to give me an IP from my LAN ?
I have a router on my LAN, that uses DHCP.
Ideally, I want my XDA to get an IP address on the LAN, that would be perfect, since I would then be able to use it just like any other network device.
From what I have read, the WIDCOM stack on the XDA help me solve the problem.
I downloaded one from here named BluetoothGPS which I installed. I must say, I didn't get anywhere with it (I hard to hard reset ). Although that was before I had all this working with the MS stack, so maybe I should have another go.
Thanks
DaWolfey

To answer my own question, I didn't get anywhere with "make activesync use both network and internet" plan so I did the following:
Flashed up to the finalzero wn2003se release
Installed the widcomm 1.5.0.0801 stack on it.
Stayed with the Widcomm 1.3.2.7 stack on my pc.
Played around for a while and now Activesync works via BT, as does PAN (which is exactly what I was aiming for)

Using GPRS while ActiveSync (USB) is connected

Just as the title reads, I'd like to know if there is a way to have ActiveSync enabled while at the same time piping all data traffic using GPRS.
I use Pocket Controller which requires ActiveSync to be used. The problem is my internet connection associated with my computer is always loaded with data traffic. I use my K-JAM for IM applications and would much like for it to connect to the internet via the GPRS connection I have.
I have discovered that after the Pocket Controller establishes a connection with the K-JAM, if I disable the ActiveSync connection by going to Connection Setting and unchecking the "Allow USB Connections" check box, Pocket Controller continues to work, while at the same time I am able to use the GPRS connection on my PDA.
The problem with this is that, everytime I disconnect my K-JAM and reattach it, I have to enable the "Allow USB connections" option, then let ActiveSync detect the K-JAM only after which Pocket Controller will detect the K-JAM and then disable the "Allow USB connections" option again for GPRS to work.
I hope sombody can shed some light on this.

Upgrade to Activesync 4.5.0 Beta (works fine as far as I can tell, been using it for a while now) and you can select for the phone to continue using the radio while connected, it's just a check box.

Thanks for that bro. I'd much rather avoid any Beta versions. Tell me, would you happen to know if ActiveSync 4.2 supports this feature???
Also, I don't really use any Sync Features. The only reason I use ActiveSync is because I need a way to interface my K-JAM to the computer and install programs... that's about it. So given this situation, will ActiveSync Beta perform ok???

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Thanks for that bro. I'd much rather avoid any Beta versions. Tell me, would you happen to know if ActiveSync 4.2 supports this feature???
Also, I don't really use any Sync Features. The only reason I use ActiveSync is because I need a way to interface my K-JAM to the computer and install programs... that's about it. So given this situation, will ActiveSync Beta perform ok???
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Use the beta man... no biggie.

Well as per your instructions, I used the BETA version v4.5 BETA 2.
After installation, I looked up the connection settings, and there is a check box which reads "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
Unfortunately, even though I have checked it, once I connect my K-JAM to it and go back to connection settings, the option disappears and just like with the previous versions of ActiveSync, I can't seem to use EDGE / GPRS while ActiveSync is enabled.
Can someone please help?
TIA

Well...try active sync 4.2! Because in my case it does it even though I don't wish to. There is no more Internet Pass Through, so GPRS connection is started as soon as I try to access a web page.
I actually would like to know how to stop it! I will maybe try 4.5 as the registry hacks I found for 4.2 don't work.

Easist way i got it to do that a while ago (when i didn't want it to ) was to set the network card as a "Work" connection.
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Network Cards -> change "The Internet" to "Work" and try...
All from memory so post your results

I finally figured it out.
The ActiveSync didn't seem to work. Everytime you connect the Wizard to the computer, it is assigned an IP (in my case it is 169.254.2.1). In the Pocket Controller settings, set it to connect via TCP/IP and punch in the same IP address. You can have ActiveSync disconnected. Pocket Controller will connect to the Wizard and you can use GPRS to access the internet.