Using GPRS while ActiveSync (USB) is connected - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Just as the title reads, I'd like to know if there is a way to have ActiveSync enabled while at the same time piping all data traffic using GPRS.
I use Pocket Controller which requires ActiveSync to be used. The problem is my internet connection associated with my computer is always loaded with data traffic. I use my K-JAM for IM applications and would much like for it to connect to the internet via the GPRS connection I have.
I have discovered that after the Pocket Controller establishes a connection with the K-JAM, if I disable the ActiveSync connection by going to Connection Setting and unchecking the "Allow USB Connections" check box, Pocket Controller continues to work, while at the same time I am able to use the GPRS connection on my PDA.
The problem with this is that, everytime I disconnect my K-JAM and reattach it, I have to enable the "Allow USB connections" option, then let ActiveSync detect the K-JAM only after which Pocket Controller will detect the K-JAM and then disable the "Allow USB connections" option again for GPRS to work.
I hope sombody can shed some light on this.

Upgrade to Activesync 4.5.0 Beta (works fine as far as I can tell, been using it for a while now) and you can select for the phone to continue using the radio while connected, it's just a check box.

Thanks for that bro. I'd much rather avoid any Beta versions. Tell me, would you happen to know if ActiveSync 4.2 supports this feature???
Also, I don't really use any Sync Features. The only reason I use ActiveSync is because I need a way to interface my K-JAM to the computer and install programs... that's about it. So given this situation, will ActiveSync Beta perform ok???

leepriestenator said:
Thanks for that bro. I'd much rather avoid any Beta versions. Tell me, would you happen to know if ActiveSync 4.2 supports this feature???
Also, I don't really use any Sync Features. The only reason I use ActiveSync is because I need a way to interface my K-JAM to the computer and install programs... that's about it. So given this situation, will ActiveSync Beta perform ok???
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Use the beta man... no biggie.

Well as per your instructions, I used the BETA version v4.5 BETA 2.
After installation, I looked up the connection settings, and there is a check box which reads "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
Unfortunately, even though I have checked it, once I connect my K-JAM to it and go back to connection settings, the option disappears and just like with the previous versions of ActiveSync, I can't seem to use EDGE / GPRS while ActiveSync is enabled.
Can someone please help?
TIA

Well...try active sync 4.2! Because in my case it does it even though I don't wish to. There is no more Internet Pass Through, so GPRS connection is started as soon as I try to access a web page.
I actually would like to know how to stop it! I will maybe try 4.5 as the registry hacks I found for 4.2 don't work.

Easist way i got it to do that a while ago (when i didn't want it to ) was to set the network card as a "Work" connection.
Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Network Cards -> change "The Internet" to "Work" and try...
All from memory so post your results

I finally figured it out.
The ActiveSync didn't seem to work. Everytime you connect the Wizard to the computer, it is assigned an IP (in my case it is 169.254.2.1). In the Pocket Controller settings, set it to connect via TCP/IP and punch in the same IP address. You can have ActiveSync disconnected. Pocket Controller will connect to the Wizard and you can use GPRS to access the internet.

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Connecting to internet through Active Sync

I am trying to configure my XDA2 to connect to my PC and surf the internet via a BT connection. I can Sync via BT but when I try to set up my connection it keeps asking for a phone number despite me saying it is over a Bluetooth connection and my IP is broadband. Sorry if this has been asked but I did search for any info on this.
thomo said:
I am trying to configure my XDA2 to connect to my PC and surf the internet via a BT connection. I can Sync via BT but when I try to set up my connection it keeps asking for a phone number despite me saying it is over a Bluetooth connection and my IP is broadband. Sorry if this has been asked but I did search for any info on this.
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Why do you need to setup connection for since it's already connected with ActiveSync via BT? Basically once you get connection between your device & activeSync, that's all the step you did. Unless a firewall has stopped your device from accessing to the internet; if it's the case, create exception for your activeSync, and retry browsing with your device.
hope this helps.
regards.
thanks for yor reply, Each time I try to connect the the interneet on my device it keeps trying to connect via GPRS and not through my PC via BT....
Go to ActiveSync, open the options menu & go to Rules tab.
At the bottom, you will find Pass Through Conenction, make sure its set to The Internet and not Work
Cheeeers 8)
thats it, it finally works. Thanks very much.
Glad to hear that, thomo
You're welcome anytime, dude :wink:
activesync through bt
go to setup in bluetooth and select the activesync in bt
pair the pda or ppc
give password
in wm2005 select activesync through the bt
brouse internet
i did myself
I'm having a similar problem and have effected the setting as above, however IE on my IIs says "the page you are looking for cannot be found". My computer connects fine and I have the same issue when trying to connect the device via WiLan, although I do connect to the network.
I've been trying to fiddle with the settings for a few days now but no success...anyone out there got any ideas.
Many thanks
I have mastered it now, I sync using BT on my device, leave it connetced, close Active sync on my XDA 11, Click on IE and the device connects through my PC, super duper.........
Thanks, this is what i am looking for now. I will try it
i can now only online with cable, not through Bluetooth connection
go into the advantage settings for connections
there you should be able to change the network back to my isp insted
of my network
bluetooth-internet
Hai...iam new here..i have got O2mini and would like to connect to internet via bluetooth...
i try using usb cable and activesync program to serve internet and its working.
...i succesfully connect my pc and ppc via bluetooth by using ppc activesync but when try connet to internet its still go to gprs..
pls help me...TQ
like i said again and again in this thread it's all about which network is picked in advantage settings under network connections in systems
I also tried to make a connection to the internet with activesync and usb. But with my mda doesn't work. iexplorer says the page you are looking for cannot be found. But my ppc says "connectivity the internet Pc connection". What are the settings on your ppc, so i can check?
Somebody help me.
test with ping
and maybe messenger to see if it's a dns issue
and if people use pocketplus they prob should make sure that it's not set to close insted of minimizing otherwise the connection would most likely be closed when they close activesync
Thank you very much. You solved my problem.
ezzkht said:
Go to ActiveSync, open the options menu & go to Rules tab.
At the bottom, you will find Pass Through Conenction, make sure its set to The Internet and not Work
Cheeeers 8)
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Spectec SDW-820 on Magician

Hi everybody, I've just recieved my wireless LAN card and I'm having troubles finding documentation on how to do what I want to do. I actually want to do three things with my PDA once WiFi is working.
A I'd like to be able to ActiveSync through WiFi instead of connecting the cable. My laptop has a wireless LAN card, but I don't know how or if I need to set up a special connection between the two.
B I would like to be able to connect with my Magician through my laptop, so I can use its internet connection on my Magician.
C My Magician should also be able to connect to a wireless access point at my college, maybe I can have two network settings on my Magician so I wouldn't have to switch between them all the time?
Thanks very much from a Magician newbie .
Alright, scrap B, I managed to do that but I had to turn off WEP... If anyone knows how to keep the connection secure, let me know . But syncing still doesn't work via WiFi.
Edit: Scrap A as well, with a little bit of tinkering I think I got it done .
I can get all the items working but using my Wi-Fi network and not an Ad-Hoc.
All you need to do is go into Settings>Connections>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks> Here you select the "Internet" for both. This way you I use IE or email etc it connects into the internet and when I select Active Sync it also connects via the internet setting where it see's my "ActiveSync" running on my PC and connects. Make sure the tick box is tick against "Allow Network" in the activesync settings.
As for the Work side of things i dont have a wi-fi network but from memory once you set up the "Network Cards" on your PPC it will connect to which ever one it see's first, someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
ampda said:
I can get all the items working but using my Wi-Fi network and not an Ad-Hoc.
All you need to do is go into Settings>Connections>Connections>Advanced>Select Networks> Here you select the "Internet" for both. This way you I use IE or email etc it connects into the internet and when I select Active Sync it also connects via the internet setting where it see's my "ActiveSync" running on my PC and connects. Make sure the tick box is tick against "Allow Network" in the activesync settings.
As for the Work side of things i dont have a wi-fi network but from memory once you set up the "Network Cards" on your PPC it will connect to which ever one it see's first, someone correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Hi, my spectec suddenly stopped working. The list show my wifi as available but am unable to go on the net. I have tried reinstalling the driver, doesn't work. This started yesterday, I have not changed or install anything else. Could it be a faulty card or faulty mini ? My wifi is working great on my notebook. WEP is off. What else can I do ? Thanks.
If all fails I try a hard reset and only install the Wi-Fi driver and go from there.
Do a complete backup with say Sprite Backup that way you can restore your PDA back to original.
The other option is to use the modified driver from the E300 Card found in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27069&highlight=spectec+e300
But you need to uninstall the SPECTEC driver first.
Thanks ampda. Have uninstalled the spectec and will use the E300 as suggested. See how this works. Will only go to hard reset as a last resort or perhaps just wait for the universal ??? :lol:
Thanks ampda. Have uninstalled the spectec and will use the E300 as suggested. See how this works. Will only go to hard reset as a last resort or perhaps just wait for the universal ??? :lol:
Hellow, can you learn me how to connect active sync via wifi please ? Thank you. I have that same card
Alright, on your PC ActiveSync:
- File -> Connection Settings. I marked the USB and Ethernet options.
On your PDA:
- Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Network cards. Here select the network your PDA should connect to. It should connect to "The Internet", on the tab "Network key" I have selected Open and Disabled, because I use an ad-hoc connection.
That should do it, just hit sync on your PDA !
You may have to disable and enable your wireless connection on your PC to get things to work.
Slofsky said:
Alright, on your PC ActiveSync:
- File -> Connection Settings. I marked the USB and Ethernet options.
On your PDA:
- Start -> Settings -> Connections -> Network cards. Here select the network your PDA should connect to. It should connect to "The Internet", on the tab "Network key" I have selected Open and Disabled, because I use an ad-hoc connection.
That should do it, just hit sync on your PDA !
You may have to disable and enable your wireless connection on your PC to get things to work.
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File -> Connection Settings. I marked the USB and Ethernet options.
On my active sync 4 i don't see ethernet options[/b]
I'm using version 3.8 and I see that option :O! Here, let me take a screenshot for you.
ActiveSync 4 has no syncing over network, it has been taken out. Go back to 3.8 if you wanna use it.
Private-Cowboy said:
ActiveSync 4 has no syncing over network, it has been taken out. Go back to 3.8 if you wanna use it.
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OK thank you
You know MS developers have o get AS4 ready for the WM 5.0 release because WM 5.0 needs AS4. They were a little lazy so they got deadline problems and have to take network sync out for now. They will put it back in in a future update but AS4 as well as AS4.1 dont offer it right now.
it don't ghet it to work

Is there a way to connect Activesync via WiFi 802.11b ?

I have an O2 XDAIIi with 802.11b wi-fi connectivity and a wireless home network. I can connect my XDAIIi to my network access point router very reliably and also my home PC laptop to the router but I do not know how to get my XDAIIi and PC to connect to each other via the router. I would ideally like to use wi-fi rather than bluetooth to connect Activesync for synchronisation. Has anyone managed to do this?
Also, how is it possible to synchronise your XDAIIi (or any other pocket PC) with your home PC remotely, e.g. from a wi-fi hotspot?
I've done this, works great, but an issue is, I understand, that ActiveSync 4 and beyond are going to remove wifi syncing. Eeek.
But, for now, from memory, I think you just set ActiveSync to "get connected" over ethernet I think (the screen where you choose USB, Serial etc). I don't think you do anything special on the PPC, although I might be mistaken. You do have to manually start activesync and choose sync though on PPC.
I'll have to check my settings when I get home.
Re syncing over public wifi: the reason AS 4 removes wifi syncing is because there's no security in it. So public syncing, although techinically feasible AFAIK, might not be safe. But, caveat emptor.
Sorry for being vague, someone infront of a router can probably tell you more, this is just to say it can be done!
V
Thanks for your reply. It's really good news to know it can be done. It would be really helpful to know a bit more about your settings when you get home. In particular, do you need to allow your home PC files to be shared/visible? Also, when I open Activesync on my PPC and click Tools there is only the option to connect via IR, nothing else, even when I have a Bluetooth or WiFi connection active?
RafilK said:
Thanks for your reply. It's really good news to know it can be done. It would be really helpful to know a bit more about your settings when you get home. In particular, do you need to allow your home PC files to be shared/visible? Also, when I open Activesync on my PPC and click Tools there is only the option to connect via IR, nothing else, even when I have a Bluetooth or WiFi connection active?
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I wrote a dutch utility how to connect Active Sync through Wifi.
I hope you understand it.
You need ActiveSync 3.8.
And it's important that you create a partnership between the device and your PC through USB.
http://www.leukbellen.nl/activesync/
Good luck.
Yep, listen to adewidt.. connect up normally through USB and activesync as normal.
Then, stick in your wifi card and ensure you can browse the net through PPC. Sort this out first.
Then, check activesync on pc is able to use "ethernet" on the "get connected" settings page.
Once that's happening, I think you just load up activesync on PPC and choose sync (where it says "sync" about 1/3 of the way down the screen on the left, click that). I think it then tries to sync over the network, ie wifi. Activesync on your PC should detect this and get to work.
You don't need to be sharing any files etc, and is not advisable on publically accessible networks like wifi. Also, ensure your firewall is correctly configured. I don't think you need to set anything in partcular for AS if you can already USB sync, but ensure you're using a firewall always when wifi-ing.
V
Thanks chaps. Yes I did just about manage to understand the dutch instructions and it all works fine. Very happy :-D

Stumped HoFo, Challenge for xda-dev: Can I use GPRS/EDGE while ActiveSync Connected?

I want to use GPRS/EDGE while connected to ActiveSync, instead of my computers connection.
Is this possible?
My work proxy blocks IM & other sites (web-based e-mail). My preference would be to use some remote control software (Pocket Controller Pro, for instance) to control my Wizard via ActiveSync, and use my computer's keyboard (!!!), but over GPRS/EDGE.
Set your ActiveSync connection as "Work" and your net connection as "Internet" and it should connect to GPRS/EDGE even when you are on ActiveSync. At least it does on my T-Mobile MDA with the stock 2.26 ROM.
This is not working for me, on my stock T-Mo (US) 2.26 ROM.
I go into ActiveSyn 4.2, File, "This Computer is Connected to" and I select "Work"
When I try to access anything (IE to a page I haven't been to before, start MSN Messenger, etc.) it says I can't access.
As soon as I unplug the USB and refresh/SignIn, GPRS starts up and I'm good to go.
Is there no way to use GPRS while connected to ActiveSync?
In mine if i connect with agile using gprs and then i plug to pc agile stays connected to gprs...but if i start agile when connected to the pc it uses the pc connection...maybe u can try to connect ur im before connecting to the pc...but for pocket explorer i dont know as it dont maintain any kind of persistent connection...
now i know this works with wifi.. but dont know about edge..
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html
**EDIT**
i did install it, i connected via edge, then ran the program, then placed it in my cradle and edge stayed connected while activesync sync'd... since i am at work however i was unable to vft if i was able to browse via edge.. but their website does say something about needing to set up static ip's (when referring to wifi) i know thats not possible with edge, but wonder if i can do it with activesync... hmmmmm
the way it works for me..
its kind of crude, but works for me.
i connect my wiz via activesync and after its connected use remote display to work with it on the main computer screen.
i use process explorer to kill rapimgr.exe, wcescomm.exe and wcesmgr.exe. the remote display still is connected and takes my input from the main computer. now i can use gprs to go out on the net. in order to re-sync i start activesync on the pc again.
hope this helps,
sl
lafloer said:
its kind of crude, but works for me.
i connect my wiz via activesync and after its connected use remote display to work with it on the main computer screen.
i use process explorer to kill rapimgr.exe, wcescomm.exe and wcesmgr.exe. the remote display still is connected and takes my input from the main computer. now i can use gprs to go out on the net. in order to re-sync i start activesync on the pc again.
hope this helps,
sl
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Ummm...... all I can say is WOW!
I was just about to type up a message saying the "Login to Agile then ActiveSync, Agil should retain GPRS" thing did NOT work for me....
THANK YOU! this is awesome!

Active sync only trough a wifi connection

Hello,
I searched the forum but found nothing...
is there a way that active sync downloads automatically new exchange stuff ONLY from a wireless connection (I disabled data) ?
no, not possible. Activesync only works with a direct cable connection, serial or TCP-IP, or bluetooth. The software is old and cranky and Microsoft has essentially not updated it in years and is stuck in a 2002 timewarp. They do not have anyone actively working on it, now Windows 7 connection manager may allow wi-fi, but I have not seen that to work either, as it is configured to work on with serial ports, USB or bluetooth serial. I have not seen wi-fi able to emulate a serial connection and that is what is required.
Maybe someday, but not soon, I am afraid.
More thoughts, if you mean getting email from your server, through activesync, yes that is possible, as you only need to open activesync connection settings and check the box to allow wireless connection while the device is connected. If this is what you mean, then yes you can.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me, let me explain more clearly :
I'm speaking from my touch pro 2 mobile device, not from my PC
What I mean is when you have a working data 3G (or whatever) connection on your WM device, you activate push mail and tell active sync in the schedule options to retrieve emails, calendar, contacts whenever "item arrives".
Now, from what I know and from what I was been able to discover, this only works if, like I said, you have a working data connection.
Since I don't have any data connection, i would like to keep the same behavior but with my WM connected to a Wifi, in order that he retrieves stuff only when connected to a Wifi
ms0529 said:
More thoughts, if you mean getting email from your server, through activesync, yes that is possible, as you only need to open activesync connection settings and check the box to allow wireless connection while the device is connected. If this is what you mean, then yes you can.
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I didn't find that setting (while im connected to a Wifi)
In active sync when I tip "Menu", I get :
Options -> there i can delete the sync profile or edit it
Schedule -> there i can say when to sync stuff
Status -> the status
Configure server -> same menu than "Options", but directly in the edit mode
Connections -> there it says :
When cradled
Synchronize all PCs using this connection:
'BlueToothActiveSync
'USB
Connect via Bluetooth -> bluetooth stuff
so please let me know what you mean with "allow wireless connections"
ho, btw i'm running wm 6.5 (energy rom)
Edit : I forgot to add that what's weird is that if i synchronize manually (also trough wifi) it works..so why isn't there some option to made it work automatically ?
I've seen that happen too - connect via cable with the wifi active and it will start synching, then disconnect the cable and viola - the tilt2 stays connected via wifi. but how to initiate the same connection without the cable, that's the great mystery.
auto connect with wifi?

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