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Doh! Spontaneous SD card erase strikes again - under 4.00.10

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I've been running the 4.00.10 beta along with new T-Mobile radio stack on my T-Mobile phone since thursday morning. It's been pretty stable.
But tonight I lost everything on my SD card again. Anybody else had this problem with the latest rom? What brand of SD cards are you using, if it has happened?
Any new software installed?
Last software I installed was Pocket Plus last night, but it seems to have been working ok up until the big kaboom.
Ok, of to do a hard reset and install things again. Fun fun!

Pocket plus has known issues with pppc2003. I have found that it's storage card module may cause problems with sd card erasures. Delete it and try resco taskmanager instead. It's not as intuitive but works great.

FYI the same thing has happened to a friend of mine and he called T-Mobile and they're sending him a new unit.
BTW he was running T-Mobile ROM 4.00.10 RS A.20 on the T-Mobile USA Network using a Sandisk 256MB SD.

I've had it hose my Sandisk 256mb card several times now, even with no other software installed.
A while back I read somewhere about some PocketPCs (Not PPC Phones) having problems with the sandisk cards erasing themselves. I am wondering if something in WM2003 is making them exhibit this behavior on the PPC Phone :shock:

sd disk erase
Same thing happened to me, It otherwise works well
Is it the brand of memory??? or version 4

Maybe a combination of a certain kind of sd card and the 4.0 os? Hmmm

sd erasure
Had the same with my XDA. I have an scandisk 256 mb unit inserted.
2 weeks ago I upgraded with a cooked version of the wm2003 .05 After a few days, when turning the decice off, I couldn't turn it on again using the on-switch button. Had to soft-reset to get started... Also at one time the device told me that my sd card was locked, but in fact had still 180 MB's left!!
I coocked a 2002 version in the kitchen and was lucky to be able to downgrade... Formated my SD card using my scandisk cruser mobile USB dard adaptor....
Now everything is ok on 2002. The wm2003 seems still very unstable to me
I posted a message with another string to get informed if it is still advisable to upgrade to 2003 at this time...
The webmaster himself did'nt encounter it personally yet but he stated that he only has the card in place occasionaly...
L8er

Sandisk 256
Have had mine erase once and has corrupted itself once more on the 4.00.5 rom....both happened after unit appeared to lock up and I soft reset.

SD I/O problem

Hi all,
Following problem:
- Qtek 2020 (or 2020i), combined with a SD-card , TomTom Navigator 5 and own software
1. Qtek 2020(i) works fine with SD, TomTom 5
2. Qtek 2020(i) works fine with SD, own software
3. Qtek 2020(i) works fine with SD, TomTom 5 and own software ONLY WHEN THE SD-card is slow (less then 40x)
We tested much different SD-card with different chipsets and only the real slow cardtypes work. The problem is that those cards aren't available anymore on the market, so we are looking for a solution to slow-down the SD I/O speed to the card.
How can this be done in Windows Mobile 2003 (se)??
Thanks for any solution or tricks to solve this problem!
Sam

I assume, the cause with the telephone.
Please once TT starts and uses the telephone. TT will freeze.

My alpine used to freeze when a call or text message was received whilst an SD card was inserted.
After upgrading the Radio rom from 1.00 to 1.04, this problem ceased. What version of radio ROM is on your alpine? If it is not 1.04 then this may help.

I use also the version 1.04

i-mate JAMin SD not working - NEW PHONE!

G'Day!
I managed to pickup a JAMin to replace my aging O2 XDAII Mini. (*I wanted WiFi)
But on setting up everything again, the SD slot has junked out on me in around 2 hours of usage from new!
Ive got 2 cards - SanDisk 2GB Ultra II & Lexar 256Meg - both of which worked for the 1st test, now both are not recognized by the phone.
My SD reader on the computer says and plays them fine. - In the ABOUT of the phone it says that the "EXPANSION SLOT" is not in use with any card installed.
I've tried firmwares:
1. RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship-NoVendorID
2. JAMin_WWE_2130923_21309112_020720_ship
3. JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship
.....With no luck....infact Im stuck on the RUU one now with the NBF file error now! and still no SD able to be read in the phone!
PLEASE give me guidence before this becomes many...many...MANY bits of plastic!!! :evil: :evil:
___LEO____

Try reformating your SD card in the PC card reader. It will erase all data, so back it up, but it might work.
Cheers.

UPDATE....
Thanks krale!
But the SD's work fine in my Magician and my SD reader.
I've tried that though...just in case.
No deal.
I've found a Telstra patch on the iMATE site in AU....and strangely it started to work for a bit.
It now will lock up for no reason and black screen.
Soft-reset will work, and I got to watch/try out things on it!!! YAYAYA!
Then 10 mins into watching a .avi show it froze and now will no longer see any SD's again.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
In order to get a repair I think I should downgrade its OS/firmware to the original imate versions. (The current one is a DOPOD).
But it gives me the ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer NBF file.
How do you downgrade the OS/Firmware versions?
THANKS ALL!!!

You'll be stuck in RUU (or DOPOD) ROM cause is 2.15.13.27 and it's newer than iMATE 2.13.09 you can't downgrade if you have uoyr PDA CID locked. You've have to upgrade to a ROM like the DOPOD one that you have or to one with upper number i.e. 2.15.14.00 but no to an older one.

Corrupt SD card

There is problem of corrupt SD card with Artemis.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285511
I have same problem with P4350 (Herald) micro SD Card SanDisk 2 Gb.
I bye it 2 weeks ago and yesterday all files at SD card missing. I recovered some files by R-Studio software.
No TomTom software, but installed Resco Explorer.

i have the exact same problem with my sandisk 2gb card on the p4350 (the same card i use in my hermes where it works perfectly for about 4-5 months). it always happens when i save data to the card with a softreset following (f.e. backup). the card isn't recognized anymore or has folders with strange characters on the sdcard). then i remove the card, do a SR and put the card back in afterwards. after that everything is fine again.
very strange.

I plan to send letter to HTC suppurt.

lucky for me i spotted this then, i was about to order a 2gb card but i'll think i'll go with the 1gb instead.
incidently is anybody working with a 2gb card with no problems?

it's not a problem of the sd card but of the p4350. the card works perfectly in the hermes for months.
so why would a 1GB sd card work perfectly and a 2gb not when the sd card itself is definetly not the problem?

Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285511
says, that no problem with 512 Mb cards only.

Hi,
this soed nor only occur with 2GB Cards. I Own the Herald 4 Days now, and after 2 days the Storage Card ist corrupt... It is an 1GB Micro SD

Hi,
The same problem here with my SanDisk 1GB
What's wrong with this phone ?
These are my numbers:
IPL 1.08.0001
SPL 1.08.0001
GSM 02.71.90
OS 1.8.0.0

I got a reply from HTC Support:
Hello Milen,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe.
We have seen this problem before on the HTC P3300. Currently we have escalated this issue to our R&D team in Taiwan, and they are investigating.
We are unsure as to the time frame for resolution of this issue, as our team still need to recreate the problem, establish cause, and create fix.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Your local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Yours sincerely
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

First the card, now the phone...
Like many others I have experienced an occasional problem with corruption on a 2Gb MicroSD in my XDA Orbit. First time I fixed it with a soft-reset.
I have had the issue again yesterday and re-formatted my card to start again. The problem started yesterday when I noticed that the names of Storage Card folders were corrupted (lots of null characters). When I connected to PC and browsed I saw 2 folders named 'Storage Card' visible. Although the card now looked almost completely empty to Windows, the PPC Memory/StorageCard applet still reported 700+ MB storage in use.
After reformatting and loading up my TomTom data from XP. I put the card back into the phone, but it appeared that the phone was still remembering yesterday's view of the card, mixed up with todays! The bit from yesterday was the storage card folders used by poutlook for attachments.
I decided I must hard reset, and then it should be OK right? Since the reset I have been unable to complete the boot sequence on the phone - it just hangs after showing the version numbers on the startup screen for O2.
Seems like a warranty job, but since I bought it on ebay from a guy who sells lots of them, that may not be easy!
Any ideas how to kick it into life? I've tried both with/without SIM/SD/power cord/etc.

seems to be the same problem as on the Artemis ((((((

Ok, Trinity (HTC P3600) got it too ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291988 )
Seems to be an OS bug, HTC promised an update !!!
Milen

HTC Technical Hotline Support <[email protected]>
Code:
Dear HTC support,
Do you officially plan to publish a firmware update for Herald, Trinity
and Artemis because of their bug to corrupt the flash memory card
after normally read-write access? Or I and many other people like me
have to return their phones to you? A time period will be a good answer!
Here is my device information:
HTC P4350 - Herald
ROM version: 1.8.405.1 WWE
ROM date: 11/03/06
Radio version: 02.71.90
Protocol version: 4.1.13.31
ExtROM version: 1.8.405.101
All best,
Milen
Answer:
Code:
Dear Milen,
At the moment we do not have an exact date for when updates
will be released. We are expecting this to be in Q1 2007.
Also as yet we cannot confirm the location for any downloads.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused by this.
Thank you for your enquiry... blah blah

That damn thing screwed up my data too!
I wrote to HTC support. Wondering, are they gonna answer or what?
"Corrupt data on MicroSD card" Dear support, Yesterday I'd discovered another wonderful feature of P4350. All the data on my MicroSD card was destroyed! No folders or files, just a junk file named "squareСЭSquareEx" 0 bytes in size. After running scandisk using SD Card reader I've had all my files unreadable in FOUND.000 folder. Information on device: ROM: 1.8.411.3 RUS Rom Date: 11/03/06 GSM: 02.71.90 ExtRom: 1.8.411.103 MicroSD Card info: Kingston 1Gb SDC/1GB 0645G88588U SD-C01G Japan The device was being used just as usual and worked fine during the whole week. The only difference was that I've been using WiFi extensively and it was the first time when the battery power was lower than 35%. What are you going to do about it and who is gonna pay me for such an incredible inconvenience?
"

Hello people! I might just have the solution to HTC memory card problem, but im not shure about it, i dont own Artemis or Herald so i cant check it out.
Today morning i had a great idea:
I own a Qtek s110, for today plugins i use SPB Pocket Plus 3 and it has 1 thing that differs form using it on any other device - the memory card status! It is hidden on Qtek. When you try to enable it it tells you that it may be the cause of data loss and instability of system. As you should know Qtek is built by HTC.
My idea is try to disable any memory card status idicator and see if that cures the problem, because i think this trouble has been on long before HTC brand started building their own devices! Good luck!

After i installed the program tweaks2k2.net on my P4350 i experienced the same problem with my a-data 1Gb microsd. In my case removing this program also removed the problem with the corrupt storagecard.
Another annoying problem is that my ringtone is constantly changed to windows default when i hit the ok-button....

SD card "renewal"
Like many of you I have sometimes (but relatively frequently) corrupted my SD. I have found out that the corruption is very often in the cache only. If i put SD card out and put it in back again the card content is correct and without corruption.
Dolf

i've heard that you should format your SD-card to FAT-16... it was written somewhere on tweakers.net. Maybe this is an option..? I own a 2gb micro sd and i never experienced any problems.. let me know if this is usefull or even possible

I've heard that you should format your SD-card as FAT-16.. This whas said somewhere on tweakers.net. I'll search for this topic. I use A 2GB micro SD card with my p4350, i did not encounter any probs.. Let me know if this was helpfull

Possible solution?
I had a similar problem. My SD card wasn't recognized anymore after a while, sometimes after a backup. Now I fixed it. I discovered that I shouldn't move the programlinks in the "start menu" manually. Some programs, which I still don't know which one exactly, should stay in the root. These are the programs installed by default. When I putted the program back to the root of "start menu" folder, the storage card was recognized again.

SD card hang, i think

I have Pocket ScummVM and Pocket UAE on an SD (not SDHC) card, and up until two days ago they both ran fine, yesterday i upgraded my radio stack and now whenever i run either of these apps they stick in the loading state and i have to soft reset to terminate them. I can still run Sim City 2000 from the SD card so i'm wandering if it's some kind of transfer bottleneck/issue.
radio: latest (1.18)
rom: latest tomal WM 6.1
will try copying everything off the card, reformatting and copying it back, see if that helps

cycloid said:
I have Pocket ScummVM and Pocket UAE on an SD (not SDHC) card, and up until two days ago they both ran fine, yesterday i upgraded my radio stack and now whenever i run either of these apps they stick in the loading state and i have to soft reset to terminate them. I can still run Sim City 2000 from the SD card so i'm wandering if it's some kind of transfer bottleneck/issue.
radio: latest (1.18)
rom: latest tomal WM 6.1
will try copying everything off the card, reformatting and copying it back, see if that helps
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Try to reinstall the apps

seems to be general issues, last night adobe flash claimed to be out of memory, when there should be plenty, so i'm wandering if it's a RAM issue and nothing to so with the SD card or apps specifically. The Tomal rom includes a flash disk which s taking up 16mb can i turn that off somehow?

cycloid, the flash disk doesn't take up 16mb.
please read wiki Memory and Storage Types
so many people seem to make this same mistake
either the cook is very nice and gives you a flash disk, or you don't have one, and that memory is lost to you completely

thanks for pointing me at that info, ramdisk is actually quite cunning then!. I still suspect i have a ram or general memory marshalling issue, hmm..

fixed kinda. I had the 9.6 tomal rom, put 8.81 on it and all is good.