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ARRGH! - Constant Probs with ActiveSync

I love my everything about my MDA - However, MS ActiveSync is absolutely terrible to work with and with a mind of its own.
When I first start my PC, ActiveSync works flawlessly. I am able to update and sync my contacts and install programs with no hassle.
However, as the day goes on, it becomes increasingly moody. When I plug in the MDA, there is no indication of it connecting. No swirly green circle etc.. Control Panel does not even indicate that something is connected.
When I plug into the next USB port, there is a "Unknown Device" error. ActiveSync again doesn't activate. I've restarted the comp as well as soft-resetting the MDA but to no avail. I was advised to uninstall all the USB drivers but still no result.
Whats strange though is that the very next day, it works all fine again in the morning and the daily dismal continues! :roll: :x
Anybody else facing these problems? I've got ActiveSync 3.8 but also had the same problems with previous AS's. In fact, I've also tried different computers but to no avail!
Do you guys happen to know of an alternative? This spawn of Microsoft is driving me crazy!!

have you tried a differnt usb cable? and does your case effect how far the plug goes when you connect your Magician (assuming your using a case)? just seems like it might not be connecting properly all the time. I had issues similar to yours when i purchased a new sync cable, it had slightly shorter data pins where it connected to my Jam which were not contacting. so it would power up and windows would detect but it would give the same errors.
SpeedN

thanks for the reply mate.
Its strange as I had another miniUSB cable but the problem was still there last time I tried. Very strange - I just hope MS could iron out these problems - I've heard that they are trying to use AS to contest with BlackBerry.

hmmm...it looks like there may be a possible solution to all this. I've researched a bit and apparently ActiveSync only works at the USB port originally used to connect the phone hence why it wasn't recognized by the other port.
But my one wasn't working with either port anyway!
Another suggestion was to hard reset the Pocket PC as this is apparently a common problem. And guess what? it worked!
This suggest there being a problem with the actual PocketPC settings itself - more specifically the ActiveSync settings. As doing a Hard-Reset is quite an inconvenient thing to do, is there anyway to delete/reset the ActiveSync settings without hard resetting?
Thanks again and I hope this is of help to anyone

i had a problem with activesync as well. i was traveling so in that time i had synched my jam with maybe 4 different pc's with activesync, all on guest partnership except my laptop. so when got back it had all these problems with my desktop. for example when i explored my device through activesync and tried to copy something to the computer it would show the copy dialog box but then nothing would be on my pc. i just reformatted my har drive for other reasons and now it works fine.. so i guess reformatting and reinstalling xp works. i did a hard reset on my jam and that didnt do anything.

From time to time Activesync will lock itself up. So go to task manager and shut it down - it's 2 apps, something like wcecomm.exe and something else; there's a number of apps freeware that will do this for you- i'm at work so can't help you more with the filename.
Then restart activesync and reconnect as normal.
Sometimes it does bugger up, but I've only had to reinstall windows once with an SPV.
V

Jam not recognised by windows/activesync

Hi Guys,
New to the ppc scene, so please be gentle!
I've had a search through the forum, and can't find the answer to my problem, so please help me, if you can.
I have just been given an imate jam by my dad, his old work phone. It hasn't been used for approximately 6 months, so I had to charge the battery (and back up battery) to get it up and running.
Now I've got it charged up and switched on I've encountered a problem:
When I connect my Jam to my PC (XP Pro) it lights up the charge LED but then nothing, no installing drivers or anything. When I start activesync it doesn't see the Jam, when I go to device manager on my pc it's not there.
The Jam has also reset itself a few times, so I was thinking I should upgrade/reflash the software - but I can't do that when the PC doesn;t see the Jam.
Have I missed something, done something stupid or is the Jam knackered? Any help would me muchos appreciated
Many thanks in advance.

My device is an imate jam, details below:
ROM Version: 1.03.00 WWE
ROM Date: 11/01/04
Radio Version: 1.01.00
Protocol Version: 1337.38
Ext ROM Version: 1.03.163 WWE
Not sure if this helps anyone help me with my problem, but thought the more information the better!
Thanks in advance for you help

Check your connection settings in ActiveSync.

Ok, I've just tried the settings you suggested, though for some reason I can only select COM4?? I'm using activesync version 4.1.4841.0
When I try and connect I get the error shown in the attached image

Although some have had luck with AS4.x, others as well as myself have experienced that it doesn't work very well with the Magician. Use AS3.8 and it works flawlessly.

ok, I've changed to activesync v3.8 and still no joy - it just goes in circles looking for the device on COM4
I'm showing:
COM1 Not Installed
COM2 Not Installed
COM4 Available
Infrared Port Not Installed
USB USB is Available
This is driving me crazy!!

Normally when the magician is plugged in to the usb port, windows should recognize this and go through the usual driver installation procedure. If not disconnect the magician, switch off all settings in AS and reboot your PC. After the PC has booted and you logged-in, connect the magician to a different usb port. If the windows plug+play install routine does not appear, go to control panel and add the device manually. Once the device is added, then put back your settings in AS.

ok, 2 reboots later!!
when I connect it (on a different port) all that happens is the LED goes Orange to indicate that its charging - no drivers are installed.
When I go to Add Hardware it can't find the Jam (tried changing the port) and if I go to device manager its not there (not even with a ! Warning next to it).
I'm now trying to add it from a list, but I can't find imate or HTC in the list of manufacturers.
I'm totally stumped, this is insane!
Any more ideas?

Try hard resetting the magician then check AS settings in the magician also.

I've done a hard reset and rebooted my pc again, still nothing, even when I try and add it manually.
I've even tried connecting in bootloader mode, but that won't work either!
Could it be a hardware fault? Or more likely a software thing?

Not being recognised
Hi
I had the same problem today, it turned out to be a faulty cable(brand new spare). I used a different cable and all is good.
:wink:

I've now tried 3 different cables, 2 latops and a desktop PC and am having the same problem no matter what - I reckon my Jam's screwed up somehow!

Take a look on the connector, try to clean it(with alcohol preferably and with battery out of jam). You have to have AS installed before you connect the jam to pc for the first time, otherwise it will cause problems. Did you try BT connection to active sync? Did it work? Did your dad experience these problems too?

Ok, there's definately a problem with my device.
I can pair it up via BT and transfer files etc, but as soon as I connect with Activesync I get the same error message as I posted earlier in this thread.
I've tried cleaning the mini-usb port (battery out) with alcohol, still no joy.
Spoke to my dad, says he never used activesync, just used it as a phone and a sat nav, nothing more.........
Starting to get really wound up by this now. Unless anyone has any other ideas (dropping it from a great height??!!) I think I'm gonna have to send it to a repair centre for them to have a look at it

i had an intermittent problem like this wherw windows would say a USB device connected to the system was malfunctioning etc..
It cleared up after a while donno why... when uve connected the JAM, wiggle the connector around a bit and see if anything happens....

The message you get is not necesarilly caused by faulty device, I got that message many times before I was able to properly configure my active sync over BT.

the cable supplied with imate jam looks like a normal mini usb cable but its not.
its different then the mini usb cable. You cant use a mini usb cable (from ur camera,card reader etc.) with your imate jam.
Once I used my camera mini usb cable with imate jam and i got the same error which omhaigh is having. Netither Windows recognize my imate jam nor activesync. I plugged in my imate jam cable and it was all good again.
In short, you need cable supplied with imate jam to connect it with pc.

The Magician's USB cable is a standard one. I've been using various USB cables on my laptop. home desktop, and office PC without any problems.

yeah, it is completley standard, ive used 5 different cables and all work,

I've now tried a whole host of PC's and Laptops at work, using several mini usb cable and bluetooth (both built in and dongle on different machines) following the advice above and in the BT active sync thread.
No matter what I do (including cleaning the ports with alcohol etc) I get no joy what so ever, and always end up with the same result!!
I've read that connecting the device to a pc before installing activesync can cause problems.......I'm starting to think that perhaps my dad's done that and either can't remember or is too embarrassed to admit it! Is there a fix if this is what has happened?
I'm guessing its gonna have to go to a repair centre

Issues with ActiveSync, doesn't work at all with AS4.5 beta!

I could get my TyTn to sync with my computer occasionally after installing AS 4.2, but ActiveSync would still disconnect itself from my device after a few minutes (I could get it to sync most times though, but I'd have to shuffle round USB ports etc)... Installed ActiveSync 4.5.0 beta (build 5509 BETA) last night, and now my phone won't sync AT ALL with my PC. AS can't even see the device, it can see it's been plugged in because it kicks into action, but nothing more ever happens apart from the (useless) Troubleshooter coming up.
Just a word of warning... Don't install 4.5 beta unless you're absolutely certain it'll work. I've gone from a somewhat-functional sync ability to absolutely nothing at all, and now I'm going to have to rollback my ActiveSync installation (if I can!)
That and the fact my TyTn won't even see my bluetooth headset (an Avro GW-BT-002, which my Alpine can both see and use absolutely fine), I'm beginning to get a little frustrated with this device.

Further proof that more often than not:
BETA = BROKEN

I've had the beta AS 4.5 for a week now and no problems whatsoever with dopod CHT9000 (hardware) using latest i-mate, dopod, or cingular ROM's.
All of these ROM's all work perfectly with sony-ericsson hbh-ds970 bluetooth headset.
After you upgraded to 4.5, did you delete your PC from the activesync partnership and rebuild a new partnership?
* Activesync > Options > press on desktop computer's name and delete it. Then, delete mobile device from desktop AS. You'll then be asked if you want to keep your file directory. Afterwards, reboot pocketpc and connect with usb cable or over bt.
It does work.
Cheers

Yep, did exactly that.

AS 4.5 works perfect with my prophet.
Issues:
Had to set-up my device again (old settings disappeared)
All programs that I installed via active sync before were gone
Top:
Improved speed of syncing files
Easier change of settings
Robin

Hmm. Beginning to wonder if I have either a dodge device, because my Alpine always synced fine

4.5 works for me with my TyTN. (slow as hell - but works).
/Martin

I can't get it to work, either. It completely blew away my partnerships... :evil:
I've gone back to AS4.2 and will wait for this to go GA before making this mistake again...

Dopod 838 Pro
Worked a treat on mine. No issues whatsoever. Biggest difference I can see is a different looking AS icon

Bloody hell...
... Beginning to think it's my computer, might end up reinstalling Windows on it this weekend. Annoyinggggggggg.
After a crap installation of AS4.5, downgraded back to 4.2, but it's still not seeing my TyTn at all, so I'm figuring that it's more likely to be a PC problem. It's not the best Windows installation either, it's become bogged down with stuff, and it never worked right after I made a couple of 'tweaks'... That's me, always fiddling with things when they work fine in the first place :roll:

I'm having similar issues with my TyTN, installed 4.5 on my PC, plug in my PDA and it starts charging (via USB) but ActiveSync can't find it, although does state that USB is available, just keeps searching?!
ActiveSync needs rebuilding from the floor, its always been a rather 'naff' featureless product.

christopherwoods said:
Bloody hell...
... Beginning to think it's my computer, might end up reinstalling Windows on it this weekend. Annoyinggggggggg.
After a crap installation of AS4.5, downgraded back to 4.2, but it's still not seeing my TyTn at all, so I'm figuring that it's more likely to be a PC problem. It's not the best Windows installation either, it's become bogged down with stuff, and it never worked right after I made a couple of 'tweaks'... That's me, always fiddling with things when they work fine in the first place :roll:
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I had the same problem. Hard reset of my XDA Exec and it worked. draw yor own conclusions.

Have you tried turning off the "USB advanced network functionality" - this seemed to sort the same problem out for me;
go start - settings - connections - USB to PC - untick box "Enable advanced network functionality"

You are aware that AS 4,5 REQUIRES Outlook 2003 !?!?
otherwise it will not work at all

That beta works fine. The only problem I've had is related to remote NDIS interfering with my soft firewall, even after all access rules allowing it. Only workaround is to disable smart ARP filtering in Outpost Firewall or change transfer mode of phone to Serial and everythin is gravy for sync.
Your problem seems related to device manager misconfig of the device or something else.
why don't you try this from start --> run --> cmd line
set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1
start devmgmt.msc
Then, once device manager loads, click view --> show hidden devices. From there, scroll down to network adapters, expand, and delete any instance of Windows Mobile-based Device. On the phone, delete Activesync relationship with PC. Then reboot computer, and plug in your phone again. Let us know if that solved your problem.

I had numerous issues with AS4.2 and AS4.5 Beta initially. And I had issues with Vista RC2 (both x64 and x86) syncing with the WMDC B3 as well.
Then it dawned on me that I was connecting my 838pro to the computer via a Belkin USB hub. So I removed the sync cable from the hub and directly attached to the computer. Now I have no more problems whatsoever (that's in the past 2 weeks.....)
So the moral is: DIRECTLY CONNECT YOUR Hermes TO THE COMPUTER'S USB PORTS!

Just put AS4.5B2 on today - no real probs - no real improvements
R

Hi christopherwoods
I am sorry if this is the wrong forum but its the only one I could find with reference to my bluetooth headset.
I am the owner of an Avro GW-BT-002 bluetooth headset which was free with my old mobi. Unfortunately I can no longer remember how to set it up or any of the other settings to use with my new Motorola V3x 3G phone. Is there any possiblity that you could post the instructions of its settings etc to this forum for me.
Many many thanks
Craeg

Same Issue - Fixed
I had a problem with ActiveSync after upgrading to 4.2.
I am now running 4.5B and it is working after deleting prior partnerships from my handheld.
(I am running Outlook 2007)

ActiveSync 4.5 finally working!
I had the same problems with ActiveSync 4.5 (beta) until I actually put in the original install disk I had with the phone (it had ActiveSync 3.7 on it) when I first tried to connect my phone and it wouldn't detect it. 4.5 (beta) is now working fine for me!

Wizard and 3rd party BT

Hey all,
I have some generic BT dongle for my computer that I bought a year or so ago to use with my old HTC Typhoon. The dongle allowed my phone at the time to ActiveSync over BT using the BluSoleil software that came with the dongle. However, with the HTC Wizard (MDA vario body with the AKU 3.3), I cannot for the life of me sync over BT. I have no idea what I need to set up and every time I try and do a new "partnership" in the phone for syncing over BT - i select my computer in the devices, yet nothing happens. I cannot establish any COM port communication with the computer and the only type of services that i can push are the vCard from the computer and a "personal area network"...
HOWEVER, if I take my Wizard and connect it to my Thinkpad T60 laptop that has native BT; I can sync to my hearts content... so... someone please give me a clue as to wtf I am supposed to do here to get this to work over BT
Thanks!!!

Anyone? Plweeze?

C'mon, someone must have an idea!

Gave up
I had the same dongle, or at least mine also came with Blue Soleil. I hated that software - it runs a dozen different programs that clog the computer and still doesn't connect properly. I took it off and tried the native MS XP software. It would work once, but when I put the PC to sleep I would have to reboot to get it to connect again. I finally realized that it was much easier to use a cable and gave up. I'll try again when I get a PC with built-in bluetooth.

prestonmcafee said:
I had the same dongle, or at least mine also came with Blue Soleil. I hated that software - it runs a dozen different programs that clog the computer and still doesn't connect properly. I took it off and tried the native MS XP software. It would work once, but when I put the PC to sleep I would have to reboot to get it to connect again. I finally realized that it was much easier to use a cable and gave up. I'll try again when I get a PC with built-in bluetooth.
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Where did you get the native XP software? I could never find the native software

Plug and Play
If you don't install software, XP will operate it.

Need help...

i have a t-mobile mda wizard and every time i plug it in to my pc it says device not recognized but it charges and everything... i just bout a new cradle and everything but no dice on it connecting and im running windows xp... help will be appreciated

Right click the activesync button in your toolbar and open connection setting. Click connect device. It will try to connect. If it won't, the best thing is to go thru the help thing. Do you have a custom rom?

active sync do not work
Hi there, i heard some days ago (a friend who ask me for help, unloking wizard to change ROM) and his WIZARD was not able to get recognized by PC it was a bad contact between USB conectors and cable, so he sent phone to repairs and then he was able to sync and then to migrate from WM5 to WM6.1
perhaps is a connectors trouble.....

What version of Activesync are you using? If it's 4.5, you should be good to go. I have seen problems with older versions.
Also, check Activesync on your phone. Make sure you don't already have two accounts created, because that's the limit on your phone.
If not, try different USB Cables and different USB ports (or test those things on a different device with microUSB connection) before assuming the connector on the phone is bad.

as far as i know the phone is completely factory no upgrades or anything i tried to do the connect thing thru active sync where it looks for my phone still no connection and i bought a new cradle and usb cords all together and it still doesn't work...