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Dopod 818pro camera seting can't save to SD card

Help please someone.
I can't seem to set the camera to save to save on SD card. the only option is main memory and network. I use registry hack so that network apear as a folder. it's courius that network would show up in camera settings but not storage card...
Does anyone know ways to go arround this.
Help appriciated

Huh, I have not found a place where to say the camera a folder to save photos, just the choice of the two: "Main Memory" and "Storage card". As I said to place to the storage card the camera stops to save pictures.
I found that I need to create right folders on the Storage card, from the SD root should be "My Documents", within one should be "My Pictures", just like frome the device root. As I created the folders, camers started to save pictures to "My Pictures" on the SD.
I guess the path is hardcoded, so you just can change the root. Am I wrong? Someone knows how to change the path?

It's just that the camera app is a little screwy. Basically if you disable the network patch you will be able to save to the Storage Card again. The same happens if you enable the extended rom as visible.
I can't remeber the exact cause in detail, but essentially the app looks for the first 'Special Folder' and it displays that plus 'Main Memory'. It assumes that the only 'Special Folder' will be the storage card which in most cases is true but as you found, not all!

Anks said:
It's just that the camera app is a little screwy. Basically if you disable the network patch you will be able to save to the Storage Card again. The same happens if you enable the extended rom as visible.
I can't remeber the exact cause in detail, but essentially the app looks for the first 'Special Folder' and it displays that plus 'Main Memory'. It assumes that the only 'Special Folder' will be the storage card which in most cases is true but as you found, not all!
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Ahhh I C... it really sucks tho... hope someone could find a registry hack for this...
Anyone???
this is really annoying

Anks said:
It's just that the camera app is a little screwy. Basically if you disable the network patch you will be able to save to the Storage Card again. The same happens if you enable the extended rom as visible.
I can't remeber the exact cause in detail, but essentially the app looks for the first 'Special Folder' and it displays that plus 'Main Memory'. It assumes that the only 'Special Folder' will be the storage card which in most cases is true but as you found, not all!
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You're rite. I can't save pictures on SD card. The only option is Main memory and ExtROM2.
Waiting for someone's help.

Munyuk81 said:
Ahhh I C... it really sucks tho... hope someone could find a registry hack for this...
Anyone???
this is really annoying
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hehe...gw juga pake Dopod 818 Pro...ada pilihan buat "Storage Card", tapi begitu di-"jepret", dia masuknya ke Main Memory...gimana ya???
hehe...I also use Dopod 818 Pro...there are option for "Storage Card", but...when it's shutter button pressed, the image is saved to Main Memory...
this is really annoyimg :x

Camera Image saving
My problem was I could not save images or video files to storage card (or main memory). My Ext ROM is still NOT Unlocked so I still have the Storage card option in the Camera Settings.
I have checked the Registry keys and they were correct. Eventually, I doubted the folder in the SD Card (My Documents\My Pictures) as it was created before the last ROM upgrade. I deleted the folder My Documents in the SD card and tried the camera again on Photo and Video and the problem was solved, even with saving to the Main Memory although I did not do anything with its folders. The Camera program created the folders again in the SD Card. My assumption that it tries to create the folder but it could not as they were already there and did not flag with error message. I noticed the same behaviour in PCs.
I had similar problems with Words and Camera even with older PPC's when using the SD card.
Registry keys should be:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\Saveto
= 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\SaveFolder
= My Pictures
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Video\Saveto
= 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Video\SaveFolder
= My Videos
I heard about the issue with the absence of the Storage Card from the Camera Settings after Unlocking the Ext. ROM and I wonder if the above key value should change to 2 or 3 as the folder structure (logical drives) changes from 0-Main Memory, 1-Storage Card to 0-Main Memory, 1-Ext ROM, 2-Storage Card. (Try it at your own risk as I have not done this)

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Re: Camera Image saving
Dieselman said:
My problem was I could not save images or video files to storage card (or main memory). My Ext ROM is still NOT Unlocked so I still have the Storage card option in the Camera Settings.
I have checked the Registry keys and they were correct. Eventually, I doubted the folder in the SD Card (My Documents\My Pictures) as it was created before the last ROM upgrade. I deleted the folder My Documents in the SD card and tried the camera again on Photo and Video and the problem was solved, even with saving to the Main Memory although I did not do anything with its folders. The Camera program created the folders again in the SD Card. My assumption that it tries to create the folder but it could not as they were already there and did not flag with error message. I noticed the same behaviour in PCs.
I had similar problems with Words and Camera even with older PPC's when using the SD card.
Registry keys should be:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\Saveto
= 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image\SaveFolder
= My Pictures
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Video\Saveto
= 1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Video\SaveFolder
= My Videos
I heard about the issue with the absence of the Storage Card from the Camera Settings after Unlocking the Ext. ROM and I wonder if the above key value should change to 2 or 3 as the folder structure (logical drives) changes from 0-Main Memory, 1-Storage Card to 0-Main Memory, 1-Ext ROM, 2-Storage Card. (Try it at your own risk as I have not done this)
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There's only 2 options: 0 or 1. If you change that key to 2, SaveTo will be empty/blank. I tried it.

Re: Camera Image saving
chensayno said:
There's only 2 options: 0 or 1. If you change that key to 2, SaveTo will be empty/blank. I tried it.
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Thank you for the feedback.

SD card primer, anyone?

Hello,
I just discovered I'm even more of a ignorant farmgirl than I thought... this time it's the MiniSD card I don't know anything about.
I mean: of course you plug it in and you browse to it to add/move/remove files... but it would seem that's not enough. So, can anyone point me to a SD-on-Wiz Faq, please?
A few things I'm looking into:
- How do you get the Wiz to automatically look among SD card-based files from an app? (i.e. "Open" from Word looks into the card first)
- How do you get the camera to save pictures directly onto the SD card, so as not to waste precious device-based memory?
- What are the actual differences between installing apps onto a SD card compared to the device memory? I noticed some apps seem to behave differently according to where they are placed.
- Is there any way to create a card-based auto-multi-installer to do all the dirty work of reinstalling apps automatically after a hard reset?
I'm sure I left out several other interesting and useful things...
Thanks in advance for your contributions!

there´s some reg tweaks you can do so the wizard will store stuff on the sd-card and not in main memorey (i. e. IE cache files, Camera pics, etc.)
just search the forum you´ll find some stuff there.
For the difference between SD-Card and main storage installation. i have no idea. haven´t noticed any change in my apps. maybe just in speed of loading apps. but that´s all i noticed.
for doing backup of your apps. a lot of programms you intall on your sd card don´t need to be reinstalled after a hard reset. just need to put the shortcuts and links back in the folders.
hope i could help.
greets Freez

Making the camera save pictures to the SD card can be done by changing the settings in the camera app under options.
There is no way to automatically have all apps look on the SD card first, every app needs a change in their settings or in the registry to accomplish that.
Installing apps on the SD card has pros and cons. The pros are of course that your storage space on the device (in the ROM) gets used up less, so you can install more apps on your device. It is however not necessary to leave it as empty as possible as it was in WM 2003 SE. In WM 2003 SE (on for instance the Magician) apps were installed in RAM and the more you installed on the device, the more RAM was used up and the less RAM there was available for running apps, resulting in a slow down of the device. Furthermore running out of battery power would result in the device turning off, emptying the RAM and lossing all data and installed apps. In WM5 this is different. Since ROM is used for storage and RAM for executing only, you can fill your ROM to the max without slowing down the device. Furthermore an empty battery will mean no data loss. Concluding, there is no necessity to install as much as possible to the SD card and leave your ROM space empty.
The cons of installing to your SD card are that some apps (e.g. today-plug-ins) don't like being installed on SD card. For today plug-ins this has to do with the start-up process of the Wizard. After turing the device on or waking it from sleep, the device will first load the apps and then initialize the SD card. The device will try to load the apps on the today screen (the plug-ins that is) that are stored on the SD before the SD slot is initialized and the apps cannot be found by the device, creating glitches and problems.
Another con for me is that I like to switch between my SD with TomTom navigation maps and my SD with my mp3/movie collection. If I install most apps to SD, this means that I will have to change my SD again if during a movie or MP3 I want to use one of these apps quickly.
However, if you use only one SD for installing and not much else, this problem does of course not exist.
If your storage in ROM is not full, there is no reason to install aps to SD.

Thak you for the info so far!
Koskie: paint me 'tard... I never even saw the camera Options menu until you mentioned it...

I am about to start getting some cards and here is what I was thinking...
1. a 512 or 128MB card for everyday use. Store IE cache, ringtones, pictures, and some programs (solitaire, puzzles, monopoly etc).
2. A series of 2GB cards for music, movies and TV content when I travel. I was planing on installing TCPMP on each one to avaoid putting that in my device memory.
As far as restoring after flashing or a hard reset, I currently keep a copy of all programs, ringtones, pim backups etc on my home computer. It is organized by file type, utils, games, rings etc. so when I flash I just go through again and reinstall one by one. I've found this is easier than figuring out where to download everything all over again.

@bubism: no problem, took me a while to figure it out too, that option is well-hidden!
@dcdivenut: Good plan. Those small size cards are really cheap. Why don't you install TCPMP on your device memory? It is not too big. Or have you crammed your mem so full that you have no more place for it.
I also have all apps I ever installed still on my desktop, including a list with all the reg edits I did and all apps I have currently installed with a short explanation for most apps and installation instructions when a standard install is not good enough (e.g. TomTom 5.21)
In case a hard reset is needed,I just grab the list and install all apps again, then do all the regedits. Still a lot of work, but quicker than having to search all apps and edits online. I recommend this approach to everyone.

Hey Koskie:
Can you post that list and what to do? I have a new 8125 and miniSD card and have no idea what to use the card for. I won't be putting music, pictures or videos on it since it is a work phone.
Ski

@ Skijackz: I use my SD card for music, TomTom 5.21 maps and video's only, all my apps are installed in main (=device) mem. I have approx. 16 MB free of Storage mem. If you have no use for your SD card and your storage mem is sufficient to store your apps, you can take it out and replace it with the plastic dummy that came with it. In that way your card slot is protected against dust and dirt, but the SD card will not use any power, thereby lengthening your uptime. If you use your device for navigation, you have to use the card to store the maps on it, since they are too big for your device mem.
The list I made is partly in Dutch, especially the notes, so it might not be very useful to you. Furthermore the list is a mess, since it works through my personal filing system (copy and paste wherever my cursor happens to rest). It is a mostly chronological list, I mostly added everything I found at the end. I'll attach it anyway, perhaps you'll find it useful. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them here or through PM.

Thanks a lot for the tip on storing pics to the storage card!!! That's a real find! ....and much appreciated!!
This place is the BEST :!: :!:

Thanks Koskie!! This is a real help.

Can I stop Camera app asking about Storage Card?

I have a storage card in at all times but I actually want photos to be saved to the built-in storage rather than the card. Annoyingly, the Camera application always checks for a card and asks if I want to change the setting. Even though I always tell it I don't want to use the card, it never remembers this.
Can anyone tell me how to fix that?
Cheers!
Si

Izzard-UK said:
I have a storage card in at all times but I actually want photos to be saved to the built-in storage rather than the card. Annoyingly, the Camera application always checks for a card and asks if I want to change the setting. Even though I always tell it I don't want to use the card, it never remembers this.
Can anyone tell me how to fix that?
Cheers!
Si
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Usually the camera only asks about storage card when you have just inserted a new card OR you have the "network" folder enabled.
Now unfortunately the camera is only capable of saving to one of two locations at any one time so:
If the view network folder is NOT enabled you will be offered:
"Main" or Storage card" and once set it will remember your choice and not ask again.
BUT with Network folder enabled and a storage card inserted you will:
be asked if you want to use "StorageCard" every time you start Camera, but in camera tools you will only be offered "Main" or "Network" even if you chose the card. It will not set to storage card even if you said you wanted this when camera started.
So, if you want to use main memory with a storage card inserted and don't want the silly question about using storage card each time, then you must disable the network folder. (Use e.g. Resco or Total Commander to do this - forget now if regular File Explorer does it)
Equally if you want to save to storage card you will also need "network" folder disabled otherwise it will save to Main memory even when you say yes to Storage Card on start up of application.
The default setting for the Network folder is disabled, so if you are having problems it is likely to have been enabled by using the likes of Resco or Total Commander.
For those that like the underlying detail:
Specifying your own location in registry=
HKLM - Software - HTC - Camera - Image - SaveFolder - xyz
where xyz is your folder name, but note this folder will be added as a subfolder of the following (in this case storage card) auto added path: /Storage Card/My Documents
Note that setting a location or name other than the defaults will result in problems viewing pictures via the application, though they can be viewed by locating and opening files individually.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image]
value of "Saveto" = 0 will save images to main memory
value of "Saveto" = 1 will save images to storage card
Mike

Mine asked about 4 times and then quit. I thought it was odd but all is good now.

Baxter said:
Mine asked about 4 times and then quit. I thought it was odd but all is good now.
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Yep, that happens. Though if it just does it a few times it's more likely due to, to put it crudely, it being temperamental about recognising the SD card and storing the registry key number successfully. If it persists then it's more likely due to the network folder issue.
Mike

Thanks for the information. Here's what I've tried so far, based on it:
Installed Total Commander. Couldn't find an option to display the Network Folder.
Installed Rescoe Explorer. Enabled the Network Folder and did a soft-reset.
Before, with Network Folder disabled, the Camera preferences showed "Main Memory" or "Storage Card" as the only two options.
Now, with Network Folder enabled, the Camera options shows "Main Memory" or "Network" as the only two options.
However, the problem has not gone away. It still 'detects' the Storage Card every time I start Camera and asks if I want to use it instead of main memory. I'm using the latest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2 11/14/06).
I also installed PHM RegEdit to check the values you mentioned.
Under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image] I have a key called "SaveFolder_0409" rather than "SaveFolder", but this has the correct value of "My Pictures".
The other key, "Save To", has the correct value of 0 for "Main Memory".
Any other ideas? (Thanks for the help so far.)

Izzard-UK said:
Thanks for the information. Here's what I've tried so far, based on it:
Installed Total Commander. Couldn't find an option to display the Network Folder.
Installed Rescoe Explorer. Enabled the Network Folder and did a soft-reset.
Before, with Network Folder disabled, the Camera preferences showed "Main Memory" or "Storage Card" as the only two options.
Now, with Network Folder enabled, the Camera options shows "Main Memory" or "Network" as the only two options.
However, the problem has not gone away. It still 'detects' the Storage Card every time I start Camera and asks if I want to use it instead of main memory. I'm using the latest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2 11/14/06).
I also installed PHM RegEdit to check the values you mentioned.
Under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image] I have a key called "SaveFolder_0409" rather than "SaveFolder", but this has the correct value of "My Pictures".
The other key, "Save To", has the correct value of 0 for "Main Memory".
Any other ideas? (Thanks for the help so far.)
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Mmmm Pesky thing because in theory if it recognises the card it should not ask each time. I had assumed you had network folder enabled already because with that enabled it definitely will ask about storage card every time. So I would reset to disable network folder. In this mode it should ask about storage card on the first occasion only and once you have chosen ot should not ask again. But as a poster above found this took four goes before it settled down.
So I can only suggest that the act of disabling the network folder again might settle it down and it will only ask you once about storage card.
I;m afraid though this type of problem is rather common and folks just find one day it's fine next day it isn't - in your case I hope the changing of settings to on and off again for network folder may reset things, can't say I'm holding my breath though.
Mike

Heheh - nope, it didn't make any difference. Maybe it's just in the design of this ROM to persistently try and persuade me that I really want to save to the Storage Card. After all, who would want to save to Main Memory when they have a Storage Card inserted? (Answer: me.)

Izzard-UK said:
Heheh - nope, it didn't make any difference. Maybe it's just in the design of this ROM to persistently try and persuade me that I really want to save to the Storage Card. After all, who would want to save to Main Memory when they have a Storage Card inserted? (Answer: me.)
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So not only do we have a nanny state but a nanny ROM as well! Saint Tony's bound to be behind it somewhere.
Mike

I'm having the same problem? any way to fix it?

I'm having the same problem? any way to fix it?
EDIT: I install Resco Explorer but I have no idea where the network folder is or what to do.

Bump! Bump!

hermes storage problem

hi there guys
got an hermes 300 here... this is the problem:
when i got it i didnt had the storage card, the microSD card i got few days ago, a 2Gb Kingston... the card is well functioning and no problems...
before the card, everything was saved to main memory of ppc, aswell as MMS, camera pictures etc etc etc... now when i have storage card its same, dunno why? in camera settings i can switch only between main memory and network, no storage card shown... MMS is same, every copy is saved to main memory and it fulls it... nothing is saved to storage card... how to automatically switch all storage to storage card?
thx guys

Well where the apps store things is not automatic. In other words you need to go into an applications settings OR make changes to the Registry to set for example saving SMS or IE temp files from main to storage card.
Now the exact changes you need to make are already posted in this forum so searches should produce results. (if there is a particular setting you cannot find then ask again in this thread)
Now, a slightly different issue is where the camera stores photos:
Uunfortunately the camera is only capable of saving to one of two locations at any one time so:
If the view network folder is NOT enabled you will be offered:
"Main" or Storage card" and once set it will remember your choice and not ask again.
BUT with Network folder enabled and a storage card inserted you will:
be asked if you want to use "StorageCard" every time you start Camera, but in camera tools you will only be offered "Main" or "Network" even if you chose the card. It will not set to storage card even if you said you wanted this when camera started.
So, if you want to use main memory with a storage card inserted and don't want the silly question about using storage card each time, then you must disable the network folder. (Use Resco or Total Commander to do this - forget now if regular File Explorer does it)
Equally if you want to save to storage card you will also need "network" folder disabled otherwise it will save to Main memory even when you say yes to Storage Card on start up of the camera application.
The default setting for the Network folder is disabled, so if you are having problems it is likely to have been enabled by using the likes of Resco or Total Commander.
Cheers
Mike

Htc 2 internal memory !!

Hi there. Just wondering if anyone has a solution to resolving my internal memory situation, my phone keeps telling that the internal memory in critically low, I've deletes all my messages, most of my pictures bar the odd few that were sent to me from some hot chick, and I mean really hot!! sorry as I was saying, I deleted almost everything and I still keep on getting this message popping up. Does anyone know what I need to do, and also would it be advisable to save my message and everything else to the SD card automatically once it's sorted?
Cheers

try ClearTemp,
if you want some insight into storage load, try MemMaid - it has nice 'Storage usage' tab, to quote:
See where your storage memory is consumed, explore those directories using the system file explorer (or your own custom explorer) or compare the directories size using MemMaid's charts
(app is commercial, but this feature should work on trial version)

Take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
65. + 67 are two hints off the top of my head.

Go to My Device\Application Data\HTC\HTC Album and delete the contents of the folder and the Cache folder. You can get 20 meg + in there quite easily.
If you don't use WM default ringtones you can delete My Device\Windows\Rings that will save you 6 meg.
My Device\My Documents\My Wallpapers will save you 3 meg.
And using Clear Temp is a very good idea, make sure all of your photos are being saved on the SD card.
Installing programs to your SD card also, some will by default save to the system device like some of the HD2 games.
You can also just force-delete some of the programs on your HD2 that you don't use by going to My Device\Program Files, taking out the ones that are installed by default with your networks ROM is a good idea.
And if you haven't already, flashing a custom ROM will reduce your OS's footprint even further, I can get ~165 meg of free storage from Energy ROMs following the steps above after flashing a new ROM, that's only ~35 meg of memory used by the system, instead of ~60 meg from your network providers ROM.