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Universal - What files can be moved to SD card?

Hi!
In order to conserve memory space on the Universal what are the fiiles that can be moved to the SD card without affecting its performance?
Lets start by making a list.
a) Moving IE cache, cookies and history through registry settings
Go to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Cache".
You can change the default value "\Windows\Profiles\Guest\Temporary Internet Files" to "\Storage_Card\ie\cache".
Change the other values in the Shell Folders section of the registry to the folders you created and then soft reset.
b) Today's themes can be moved to the SD card's root directory
c) Ringtones?
d) Camera's pictures and recorded videos?
e) pim?
f) IE favorites?
g) Voice tags?
h) Others like dlls etc
Could the required reistry settings be posted here, if necessary
Thanks

This is a very interesting topic IMHO.
Worth to be "revived"!
What else can be moved to SD?
Thx!
JP

keep in mind that "main memory" is flash ROM on the Universal. Technically not very different from a SD card. More of a question "what files do I need to have on the device when the SD card is not inserted".
Unlock the extended ROM and move that contents over to the SD card - gives you 10 MB more Flash ROM.
There is not much point in moving DLLs and other stuff over to the SD card, since those DLLs etc are in the system ROM which is locked. they will still occupy the space even if you have "moved" them.
You cannot influence the true main memory (the RAM) any more in WM5

Picture & videos
Pictures and videos can already be stored to your SD card by opening the camera and clicking the setting button, then going to tools and the general tab. Select Storage Card from the drop down menu where it says 'Save as'

I wonder if in your ROM version the changes you make to PIE will keep. My experience with changing the default PIE cache size is that it will not stay on the new setting, but reverts to the old value. It may take a few days, to a week but changes are not persistent.

A few issues to consider
First, on soime devices there is a delay between coming back from sleep and getting the storage card active. This can mean that programs stored there won't work correctly. An example of this is MS Voice Commander. Anything that will be left running shouldn't be installed on the SD card.
Also remember that an SD card has different characteristics than RAM and one of those is a limit on the number of times that a spot can be rewritten. Putting things like your PIE cache on the card isn't a great idea unless you want to have errors or keep replacing the card. For data that doesn't change frequenty, it is fine.

Tytn picture saving.

Hi.
Just got my Tytn and when using camera it asks me if I want to save pictures to sd card,so I select yes.But when I take a photo it saves to internal memory.
Also,when pressing the icon at the top of the camera screen to change storage location,nothing happens.
Any ideas?

liverman666 said:
Hi.
Just got my Tytn and when using camera it asks me if I want to save pictures to sd card,so I select yes.But when I take a photo it saves to internal memory.
Also,when pressing the icon at the top of the camera screen to change storage location,nothing happens.
Any ideas?
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Common little problem this where it will repeatedly ask if you want to save to storage card but then defaults to main memory. There can be more than one cause. First thing to try is removing and reinserting sd card and soft resetting perhaps more than once, each time telling camera to use storage card.
Can be due to having network folder enabled, but try above first.
Mike

Same problem here
I have the same problem. When I choose "Storage card" in the options of my camera, it selects "storage card" OK but immediately forgets the setting (when I OK it and then return to options).
I've tried a couple of soft resets, and there is no difference. Help!

bobbyelliott said:
I have the same problem. When I choose "Storage card" in the options of my camera, it selects "storage card" OK but immediately forgets the setting (when I OK it and then return to options).
I've tried a couple of soft resets, and there is no difference. Help!
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When you are in camera>tools>capture settings do you get an option to save to "network" ? Also have you tried taking SD card in and out with device switched ON followed by soft reset?
I ask about network being given as an option because AFAIK the camera only allows two possible settings for storing data. If the network folder is enabled it will always offer network or main as storage. If network folder is disabled you will get SD card or main (unles you have one of those flakey cases where card is not always recognised)
There is a registry tweak to enforce the choice of Card or Main even when network folder is enabled. (Blowed if I can find it now, but it's on this forum somewhere/wiki?)
Mike.
Mike

Thanks a lot!!
It was the network folder being active in Resco Explorer.
Changed the setting back to network root and now can switch between card and internal memory at will to save my pictures!
Cheers again.

liverman666 said:
Thanks a lot!!
It was the network folder being active in Resco Explorer.
Changed the setting back to network root and now can switch between card and internal memory at will to save my pictures!
Cheers again.
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No probs, glad it's working.
Mike

mikechannon said:
When you are in camera>tools>capture settings do you get an option to save to "network" ? Also have you tried taking SD card in and out with device switched ON followed by soft reset?
There is a registry tweak to enforce the choice of Card or Main even when network folder is enabled. (Blowed if I can find it now, but it's on this forum somewhere/wiki?)
Mike.
Mike
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Thanks for the suggestions Mike.
No Network option - only Main memory and Storage card. Tried removing card and soft reset - still doesn't remember my choice of default storage (the setting is lost as soon as I exit 'Options').
Don't suppose you know where I could find that registry tweak?

bobbyelliott said:
Thanks for the suggestions Mike.
No Network option - only Main memory and Storage card. Tried removing card and soft reset - still doesn't remember my choice of default storage (the setting is lost as soon as I exit 'Options').
Don't suppose you know where I could find that registry tweak?
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Might get another chance to look tonight but at present I cannot find it! - though I did read it somewhere. BUT I'm not sure it'll work for you as it is already giving you the option of "storage card" rather than "network" as some folks have. Might be worth trying but question is why is your setting not sticking?
I suppose the old hard reset is something you really want to avoid!! although that might be your only option.
Suggestions needed from others please.
EDIT: Just had a thought. Some applications only like to save to specific locations. If you have not done so, try creating a folder on the root of your storage card called "My Documents" inside this folder create another one called "My Pictures". Then try again - worth a try.
Mike

Can I stop Camera app asking about Storage Card?

I have a storage card in at all times but I actually want photos to be saved to the built-in storage rather than the card. Annoyingly, the Camera application always checks for a card and asks if I want to change the setting. Even though I always tell it I don't want to use the card, it never remembers this.
Can anyone tell me how to fix that?
Cheers!
Si

Izzard-UK said:
I have a storage card in at all times but I actually want photos to be saved to the built-in storage rather than the card. Annoyingly, the Camera application always checks for a card and asks if I want to change the setting. Even though I always tell it I don't want to use the card, it never remembers this.
Can anyone tell me how to fix that?
Cheers!
Si
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Usually the camera only asks about storage card when you have just inserted a new card OR you have the "network" folder enabled.
Now unfortunately the camera is only capable of saving to one of two locations at any one time so:
If the view network folder is NOT enabled you will be offered:
"Main" or Storage card" and once set it will remember your choice and not ask again.
BUT with Network folder enabled and a storage card inserted you will:
be asked if you want to use "StorageCard" every time you start Camera, but in camera tools you will only be offered "Main" or "Network" even if you chose the card. It will not set to storage card even if you said you wanted this when camera started.
So, if you want to use main memory with a storage card inserted and don't want the silly question about using storage card each time, then you must disable the network folder. (Use e.g. Resco or Total Commander to do this - forget now if regular File Explorer does it)
Equally if you want to save to storage card you will also need "network" folder disabled otherwise it will save to Main memory even when you say yes to Storage Card on start up of application.
The default setting for the Network folder is disabled, so if you are having problems it is likely to have been enabled by using the likes of Resco or Total Commander.
For those that like the underlying detail:
Specifying your own location in registry=
HKLM - Software - HTC - Camera - Image - SaveFolder - xyz
where xyz is your folder name, but note this folder will be added as a subfolder of the following (in this case storage card) auto added path: /Storage Card/My Documents
Note that setting a location or name other than the defaults will result in problems viewing pictures via the application, though they can be viewed by locating and opening files individually.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image]
value of "Saveto" = 0 will save images to main memory
value of "Saveto" = 1 will save images to storage card
Mike

Mine asked about 4 times and then quit. I thought it was odd but all is good now.

Baxter said:
Mine asked about 4 times and then quit. I thought it was odd but all is good now.
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Yep, that happens. Though if it just does it a few times it's more likely due to, to put it crudely, it being temperamental about recognising the SD card and storing the registry key number successfully. If it persists then it's more likely due to the network folder issue.
Mike

Thanks for the information. Here's what I've tried so far, based on it:
Installed Total Commander. Couldn't find an option to display the Network Folder.
Installed Rescoe Explorer. Enabled the Network Folder and did a soft-reset.
Before, with Network Folder disabled, the Camera preferences showed "Main Memory" or "Storage Card" as the only two options.
Now, with Network Folder enabled, the Camera options shows "Main Memory" or "Network" as the only two options.
However, the problem has not gone away. It still 'detects' the Storage Card every time I start Camera and asks if I want to use it instead of main memory. I'm using the latest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2 11/14/06).
I also installed PHM RegEdit to check the values you mentioned.
Under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image] I have a key called "SaveFolder_0409" rather than "SaveFolder", but this has the correct value of "My Pictures".
The other key, "Save To", has the correct value of 0 for "Main Memory".
Any other ideas? (Thanks for the help so far.)

Izzard-UK said:
Thanks for the information. Here's what I've tried so far, based on it:
Installed Total Commander. Couldn't find an option to display the Network Folder.
Installed Rescoe Explorer. Enabled the Network Folder and did a soft-reset.
Before, with Network Folder disabled, the Camera preferences showed "Main Memory" or "Storage Card" as the only two options.
Now, with Network Folder enabled, the Camera options shows "Main Memory" or "Network" as the only two options.
However, the problem has not gone away. It still 'detects' the Storage Card every time I start Camera and asks if I want to use it instead of main memory. I'm using the latest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2 11/14/06).
I also installed PHM RegEdit to check the values you mentioned.
Under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Camera\Image] I have a key called "SaveFolder_0409" rather than "SaveFolder", but this has the correct value of "My Pictures".
The other key, "Save To", has the correct value of 0 for "Main Memory".
Any other ideas? (Thanks for the help so far.)
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Mmmm Pesky thing because in theory if it recognises the card it should not ask each time. I had assumed you had network folder enabled already because with that enabled it definitely will ask about storage card every time. So I would reset to disable network folder. In this mode it should ask about storage card on the first occasion only and once you have chosen ot should not ask again. But as a poster above found this took four goes before it settled down.
So I can only suggest that the act of disabling the network folder again might settle it down and it will only ask you once about storage card.
I;m afraid though this type of problem is rather common and folks just find one day it's fine next day it isn't - in your case I hope the changing of settings to on and off again for network folder may reset things, can't say I'm holding my breath though.
Mike

Heheh - nope, it didn't make any difference. Maybe it's just in the design of this ROM to persistently try and persuade me that I really want to save to the Storage Card. After all, who would want to save to Main Memory when they have a Storage Card inserted? (Answer: me.)

Izzard-UK said:
Heheh - nope, it didn't make any difference. Maybe it's just in the design of this ROM to persistently try and persuade me that I really want to save to the Storage Card. After all, who would want to save to Main Memory when they have a Storage Card inserted? (Answer: me.)
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So not only do we have a nanny state but a nanny ROM as well! Saint Tony's bound to be behind it somewhere.
Mike

I'm having the same problem? any way to fix it?

I'm having the same problem? any way to fix it?
EDIT: I install Resco Explorer but I have no idea where the network folder is or what to do.

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Camera Sd card problem

Anyone else having a problem getting camera images to be saved onto the SD card. When i start the camera application it asks me if i want to use my SD as the storage location. I agree. it is a 2gb SD. I take pictures as I would with the main mem as the storage loc. When I go to look in the folder I see no pictures! I checked the foder value in the registry and it is correct.....
ideas?

Loudsound said:
Anyone else having a problem getting camera images to be saved onto the SD card. When i start the camera application it asks me if i want to use my SD as the storage location. I agree. it is a 2gb SD. I take pictures as I would with the main mem as the storage loc. When I go to look in the folder I see no pictures! I checked the foder value in the registry and it is correct.....
ideas?
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When in the camera application and you go through the tools menu to see where it's storing the pictures - does it confirm that Storage Card is being used.
There are some things to note:
You cannot have "network folder" enabled and store to the storage card. If it is enabled you must disable it and then use the menu in the camera to select storage card.
Sometimes the camera does not auto create the My documents>My pictures directory on the storage card. If not you can create it.
Also see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285791
Mike

hermes storage problem

hi there guys
got an hermes 300 here... this is the problem:
when i got it i didnt had the storage card, the microSD card i got few days ago, a 2Gb Kingston... the card is well functioning and no problems...
before the card, everything was saved to main memory of ppc, aswell as MMS, camera pictures etc etc etc... now when i have storage card its same, dunno why? in camera settings i can switch only between main memory and network, no storage card shown... MMS is same, every copy is saved to main memory and it fulls it... nothing is saved to storage card... how to automatically switch all storage to storage card?
thx guys

Well where the apps store things is not automatic. In other words you need to go into an applications settings OR make changes to the Registry to set for example saving SMS or IE temp files from main to storage card.
Now the exact changes you need to make are already posted in this forum so searches should produce results. (if there is a particular setting you cannot find then ask again in this thread)
Now, a slightly different issue is where the camera stores photos:
Uunfortunately the camera is only capable of saving to one of two locations at any one time so:
If the view network folder is NOT enabled you will be offered:
"Main" or Storage card" and once set it will remember your choice and not ask again.
BUT with Network folder enabled and a storage card inserted you will:
be asked if you want to use "StorageCard" every time you start Camera, but in camera tools you will only be offered "Main" or "Network" even if you chose the card. It will not set to storage card even if you said you wanted this when camera started.
So, if you want to use main memory with a storage card inserted and don't want the silly question about using storage card each time, then you must disable the network folder. (Use Resco or Total Commander to do this - forget now if regular File Explorer does it)
Equally if you want to save to storage card you will also need "network" folder disabled otherwise it will save to Main memory even when you say yes to Storage Card on start up of the camera application.
The default setting for the Network folder is disabled, so if you are having problems it is likely to have been enabled by using the likes of Resco or Total Commander.
Cheers
Mike