Back from the Dead! ADVICE FOR FELLOW N00BS like me! - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

With the help of Beyond The Tech and me stopping from being a complete wazzock I beat my probs!
My Findings:
1. DON'T BE A CRETIN LIKE ME - Turn OFF Zone Alarm! I had added it to my ZA list of allowed progs but it still didn't Sync properly
This was a reason my initial ROM upgrade failed. Turn that sucker off!!
2. BOOTLOADER is NOT backlit - so the screen looks very much like it is off but you can just see it saying Serieal v.xx blah on it.
3. Be kind & poilte to peeps on the board & be patient - it will pay off in the end.
4. Pray to God.
A lot.
Peace out peeps, I am off to make some calls n stuff!
Hooray for the human spirit and willing Technology!
lr

Don't forget to always do a hard-reset before updating your firmware, this avoids lots of problems.

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Pointers required for removing slow O2 software (please!)

Hi guys, great forum.
I must admit to being rather nieve and lost in all the technical stuff! Im a newbie to the XDA world, and so far Im loving it!
I bought my O2 XDA mini s on ebay, at just over 2 months old. Its in perfect condition, but when I try to remove the O2 software, it's not on the list... but its definately still on there!
Should I let my battery run out and reboot it?
Also it wont link with the outlook on my pc (installed from the cd) so it looks like its gonna take me 3 weeks of typing to put all my contacts in to it!
Can someone point me in the right direction for a thread? Or is there a good site for newbies to look at in layman's terms?
Any help would be extremely well recieved!
Cheers
Hi Gary
sorry mate can't help but noticed your post had no answer. Like you I am not a techie. Most of the posters on here seem to do nothing but experiment with their XDA's all day There is a wealh of info and help but sadly only useful to other techies.
There doesn't appear to be anything geared at assisting casual users and non techies that have neither the time or inclination to fiddle with ROM's and software etc .
I reckon that would be a useful sticky for noobs- like how to change/ customise the desktop and install various A/V software and remove o2 software etc
Suggest you get the full manual and wade through that.
I bought my o2 mini s at xmas and haven't made a single call on it yet . Its far too complicated for me and working 12 hour days I've no time to play about with it. :roll:
I'm no techy either but I do know that if you do a hard reset and choose corporate install the O2 stuff is not installed. There's some good advice here too - it's maybe a bit less technical than this site.
http://www.clieuk.co.uk/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=45
Dave
Cheers for the replys Dave and Peanut.
I managed to find something useful here... http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=287641
if theres anyone else thats confused about this stuff.
I'm really happy with mine, on the whole it seems pretty simple to use. I hate that it doesnt close programmes when you click the x though.
Im gonna have a little play, but I'll need to get my mms and gprs info from orange first if i install the corporate profile.
I find that if the phone is on for more than 5 mins ifI press the green call button it doesnt bring up the phone screen, even with the normal power setting! I'm hoping this new profile will speed the bad boy up a bit too!
WiFi is a godsend on a mobile! Yey!
Without going through all the palava of flashing a new Rom the easiest way of really removing the O2 crud is to do a Hard Reset of the device (hold the Com Manager and Voice Command buttons the poke the little reset hole on the right hand side of the unit.
When you get the option select corporate installation option and then if I remember correctly you get a count down, press the reset button (without the other two buttons) again briefly to do a soft reset this should then start Windows in its regular non O2 sullied form.
Hope this helped.

Hard-SPL or Why are HTC such a bunch of bastards?

Hi guys
Got my Polaris today... started ****ing around with soft-loading the SPL.
Well... as it goes, the display totally failed to initialise, which left me scratching my noodle somewhat; turns out it turns various **** on and off on the device to init it, which, since it's already turned on, is both totally unnecessary and causes a horrible crash.
so, made that lovely OnOff function do sweet **** all... and lo and behold the screen shows the 3 colours, and the custom version, lovely.
so... basically, it's working, however, you still have to unplug and replug the USB, which to my mind is less than satisfactory, so I'll make it work without a replug then release it for you chaps.
Cheers!
Olipro said:
Hi guys
Got my Polaris today... started ****ing around with soft-loading the SPL.
Well... as it goes, the display totally failed to initialise, which left me scratching my noodle somewhat; turns out it turns various **** on and off on the device to init it, which, since it's already turned on, is both totally unnecessary and causes a horrible crash.
so, made that lovely OnOff function do sweet **** all... and lo and behold the screen shows the 3 colours, and the custom version, lovely.
so... basically, it's working, however, you still have to unplug and replug the USB, which to my mind is less than satisfactory, so I'll make it work without a replug then release it for you chaps.
Cheers!
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Wow! smells good already
Cheers for the update Oli.
Been meaning to ask.. if it was possible to have some sort of fallback so we won't lose the warranty (2 years in my case). My volume rocker and wheel are a bit flimsy and I can see myself using this warranty to get them sorted later on.
Smells nice btw.
fallback? yeah, you can overwrite it fine, if you go out of your way to.
since making a replug unnecessary is proving to be a pain in the arse, in the interests of giving you guys something to actually use, I'll release something requiring a replug.
it's quite simple: tricolour screen appears on your device, "USB" appears at the bottom - you unplug the USB, then plug it straight back in and off it goes.
@Olipro
"Why are HTC such a bunch of bastards?"
The only people who like open source stuff are the great unwashed, ie. us out here in Mugsville. Improving devices without paying the Masters of the Universe for it ? Shrieks of horror ...
Hard question, please. I've looked and looked (and maybe missed the answer), but installing Hard SPL and then flashing new ROM's - can this be done using Win2kPro, or must it be XP or Vista ?
@Oli
If you have some time can you please look at graphic drivers?
Or at least at major problems like performance when touch screen and camera performance?
Many many thanks if you just try
One step at a time my friend! Oli is already doing great job and opens the doors for cooking! I think that man deserves some donation from all of us.
athanaso77 said:
One step at a time my friend! Oli is already doing great job and opens the doors for cooking! I think that man deserves some donation from all of us.
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Indeed so, but would anyone please answer my question:
"Hard question, please. I've looked and looked (and maybe missed the answer), but installing Hard SPL and then flashing new ROM's - can this be done using Win2kPro, or must it be XP or Vista ?"
I've also read Wiki back and forth on using an SD card to reflash (I would prefer this), but the Wiki entries seem to trail off onto some other device, never quite finishing. Done this countless times with Eten devices, but not HTC as yet (if I decide to purchase the P3650)
Olipro said:
Hi guys
Got my Polaris today... started ****ing around with soft-loading the SPL.
Well... as it goes, the display totally failed to initialise, which left me scratching my noodle somewhat; turns out it turns various **** on and off on the device to init it, which, since it's already turned on, is both totally unnecessary and causes a horrible crash.
so, made that lovely OnOff function do sweet **** all... and lo and behold the screen shows the 3 colours, and the custom version, lovely.
so... basically, it's working, however, you still have to unplug and replug the USB, which to my mind is less than satisfactory, so I'll make it work without a replug then release it for you chaps.
Cheers!
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The Cruise bootloader, is the same of the Kaiser mate!
I have tested it...
Bye

new trinity

Hi, I have just received my new (to me) SPV M700 from a guy on the internet.
It was originally locked to Orange. Has been flashed a few times by previous owner and has Ausdim on it (don't know what I'm talking about as am new to this stuff). It's been unlocked and upgraded to WM6.1, also has Tom Tom and European maps.
I put my O2 sim in and turned it on. What I got was a white screen with the words HTC, also MO5, BO5, DO3 Ausdim, and a tune played, then windows 6.1 screen came up. That's it. Nothing else happens, phone doesn't work, in fact nothing works. Oh yes, a green light at the top right hand side flashes occasionally.
Also, l had three new styli shipped from Japan. Pushed the white end onto the pen and inserted it into it's appropriate place on phone. Came to get it out and the end has come off leaving the stylus in the holder inside the machine. Oh dear. Not my day is it.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I have experience of flashing psp's and using pandora batteries so the prospect of fiddling with flashing is not totally scarey to me. But I did get to know the machine first and read a lot before trying it. Don't want to rush into such stuff with this phone if there is a simpler solution.
Cheers
Puddle
Hi guys,
I realise I may have upset people by posting a question before I have contributed anything to the forum.
Will be happy to do so when I have the phone up and running.
Here's a quick introduction......... if that's the protocol.
Am a retired aged person who loves tinkering with new technology. Was first introduced to computers with the Sinclair ZX81 which had 1k of ram, yes 1k!
I even got a 16k rampak for the back. Such wonderful technology, I also had a fiddle with machine code programming.
Then I got a Commodore 64, more fun. Later on, I got a Psion, again more programming and compiling fun. Then laterley I have a couple of pc's and a laptop. Also got recently a psp and liked it so much that I bought another one with custom firmeware on it. Have had lots of fun upgrading and such.
Just got a garmin for the car too for when we go off to France for a few months with caravan.
Just a quick introduction as to who I am. Have had a look at some of the posts and I have lots to learn. Thanks for making it happen to a golden oldie.
Cheers
Puddle ('cause my hobby is scuba diving)
Hmmm....I feel for you. My Trinity has the original wm5 rom, when I boot it up it starts with the white HTC screen you described but then kicks into windows. I doesn't sound good!
As for contributing first...don't stress about it. We all have to start somewhere
Thanks for the reply, the chap who sold me the phone is going to ring me tomorrow to see if he can sort it out.
My sim is a non 3g, is it possible that this could be the problem?
If it's something so simple I should be lucky.
I was really excited about getting the phone - a bit of a bummer that it isn't working.
Cheers
Lyv
I don't think it is the sim! Does the device boot without the sim? If not then it something deeper!
No, it is exactly the same with no sim in. Oh dear.
Perhaps it can be remedied by re flashing ??? The guy who previously flashed it may have the solution.
Cheers
Lyv
puddlediver said:
Hi, I have just received my new (to me) SPV M700 from a guy on the internet.
It was originally locked to Orange. Has been flashed a few times by previous owner and has Ausdim on it (don't know what I'm talking about as am new to this stuff). It's been unlocked and upgraded to WM6.1, also has Tom Tom and European maps.
I put my O2 sim in and turned it on. What I got was a white screen with the words HTC, also MO5, BO5, DO3 Ausdim, and a tune played, then windows 6.1 screen came up. That's it. Nothing else happens, phone doesn't work, in fact nothing works. Oh yes, a green light at the top right hand side flashes occasionally.
Also, l had three new styli shipped from Japan. Pushed the white end onto the pen and inserted it into it's appropriate place on phone. Came to get it out and the end has come off leaving the stylus in the holder inside the machine. Oh dear. Not my day is it.
Any advice would be appreciated.
I have experience of flashing psp's and using pandora batteries so the prospect of fiddling with flashing is not totally scarey to me. But I did get to know the machine first and read a lot before trying it. Don't want to rush into such stuff with this phone if there is a simpler solution.
Cheers
Puddle
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Before thinking about reflashing, try Hard Resetting. Be warned: you will lose all data on your phone! ...but it could be a solution for your problem.
Thanks for the advice, will speak to the guy I bought it off tomorrow evening and if we don't get anywhere consider the hard reboot. (under guidance).
Regards
Lyv
Sorry.
It was my phone you bought so hello again! It's very strange that it's not getting past the Windows 6.1 splash screen even without a SIM as it was booting fine when I sent it and if it isn't getting past their even with the SIM removed then it may be something more intrinsic although I don't know what.
Hard reset the phone by pressing and holding both the soft keys and then using the stylus to reset the phone and follow the prompts, it will erase TomTom but you have all the back ups to reinstall that and I'll ring you and talk you through the process.
If the hard reset doesn't work then I'll shove a Mini SD to SD card converter in the post to you and walk you through flashing a new ROM from the memory card and if that doesn't fix it then I'm stumped and I'll give you a refund, but I'm sure it won't come to that.
Sorry for all the hassle!
Mike
Or if you're still awake feel free to ring me (don't mind returning the call to save your phone bill) and I'll try and talk you through everything now as I'll be up for an hour or two yet, you should have my phone number in the PM I sent you on YD.
Thanks for the reply Mike, would have been tucked up in bed when you posted so will speak with you tonight. Give me a bell on my landline, notified on yd site pm. I could ask a silly question.......did you load WM6.1?
Cheers
Lyv
Oh dear, all our efforts failed Looks like it's dead. Could have been dropped in transit, thank goodness for insurance.
Will have to look for another phone now.
Cheers
Lyv
not even flashing the firmware again helped ?
Soft and hard resetting does nothing. I tried connecting the device up to my pc with the usb cable but xp didn't have the drivers so can't access via that method.
Thanks for the reply anyway.
Lyv
You need to download and install Active Sync (at least version 4) before Windows XP will recognise the phone.
Get it here
Thanks IK, will download and try again. I was on an older version of activesync from when I used to use the IPAQ.
Cheers
Lyv
Upgraded my activesync to 4.5 and connected trinity. xp detected that a usb device had been added and activesync attempted to connect. At the end it gave up with a message that the connection to the windows mobile device couldn't be made.
The device itself had the red light at the top to show that it was taking power from the usb and the wm6.1 splash screen is still showing.
No joy, must be dead.
Thanks for help
Lyv
I shall be writing a long, complaining letter to Royal Mail
From what the OP has said it sounds like the phone's reset button isn't working at all as she can't get the phone to enter bootloader or hard/soft reset the phone and the only way to power it down is to remove the battery so it sounds well and truly bricked.
I'll have a play when it gets sent back to me and may ask you guys for some help sorting it but I'm not hopeful.
Hi Mike,
Money arrived in Bank account. I've posted your phone etc back to you today, special delivery, so you should get it tomorrow or Saturday at the latest.
Hope you get some joy from PO.
Cheers
Lyv
Still looking for a phone ...... ah hum, am even thinking of the mda vario II
Got a new phone on the way now - it's an xda trion. Yes, I know, not one of yours.
However, I'm sure I will get loads of fun out of it.
Over to the Hermes sub forum for me.
Cheerio
Lyv

Questions and Answers Section for BA Forum. Post Your Questions Here.

@All,
As a celebration for my 1000th post, I decided to open a new thread based on Tweakman's idea, which seemed to work very well in the Development and Hacking Section. The idea is simple, a single thread for all Questions, Problems, and Concerns regarding Blue Angel. This includes, but it is not limited to:
[highlight]*Problems with Flashing.[/highlight]
Can't get your device in bootloader? Did it freeze during flashing and now it doesn't get past the 4 colored screen? Are you a complete noob and need some guidance as to how to flash? Etc.
[highlight]*Have questions about which Rom is best?[/highlight]
[highlight]*Want to install software but don't know if it is compatible with your BA[/highlight]
You get my point. All the questions that I have seen/answered over the past couple of months are just repetitions of posts, threads, and things that are readily available on the wiki or in other threads. However, people are either lazy, don't know what a Wiki is / where to find it, or just flat out don't know how to search (or read the forum rules for that matter). Having something general (in this case a sticky) that says "Hey, if you have a question, you can ask here" should draw enough attention and start minimizing the number of new threads and posts opened by users (both new and seasoned). This way, we will be able to keep the development threads a little cleaner and smaller... hence making the site's search function work a little better in the process.
@Seniors,
Kinda like the Q&A team, I will need your help in trying to keep the influx of questions to a certain level by answering them as we see them. None of us are logged in 24/7 (or at least some of us aren't ), but if you guys see a question, please try to answer it. I know that xplode, Chef_Tony, markanthonypr, red_hanks, sun_dream, imatrix, +Que_PPC, motisu, and others normally try to keep this under control, but if we centralize it and contain it, we will have a cleaner forum.
Reserved for future use.
Post Stickied Per Request...
Siemens SX66 BlueAngel Q&A, Help
You know very well you can count on us. Great idea mate. Also congrats on your 1,000's post. I've added a few "tags" to the thread. I hope some others do the same to. Tags help users to find what they are looking for when they use search.
hi
hi specialists
my friend has Blue Angel,he has strange problems.
in (sounds & notification),it didnot saved after changing any parameter,we tried by reflash the rom again,but nothing changed,also we reinstalled radio 1.15 but no change,also the ring tone of the msg is discontinue or irregular when played,and some times didnot wake up (of the device) when recieve a msg.
this is strange issued problems but in mine (BA) every thing is ok,this problems only in my friend (BA),I mate PDA2K.
any ideas?any suggestions?
thnx
notice:when we down grade to wm 6.1 every thing is ok
homam_france said:
hi specialists
my friend has Blue Angel,he has strange problems.
in (sounds & notification),it didnot saved after changing any parameter,we tried by reflash the rom again,but nothing changed,also we reinstalled radio 1.15 but no change,also the ring tone of the msg is discontinue or irregular when played,and some times didnot wake up (of the device) when recieve a msg.
this is strange issued problems but in mine (BA) every thing is ok,this problems only in my friend (BA),I mate PDA2K.
any ideas?any suggestions?
thnx
notice:when we down grade to wm 6.1 every thing is ok
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Hey homam,
Thanks for kicking things off
First of all, which OS were you having problems with? This is important because it could have been a bug in a rom that could have been fixed in a later version.
@mark,
I know I can count on you, buddy I need help from the mods as well though. I cannot redirect posts to here and/or close threads
My BA, keeps turning on from standby, by a light shock! I maen, if you press the Power button, and then you knock gently on it's back, it turns back on!!
I've set to "Lock all buttons except the power button", However, I still have this issue.
Well, I must confess that once it dropped off of my hand, and it's the result of that...
Any ideas?
by "it turns back on" i assume you mean it wakes up from stand by, it doesn't really start like after a soft reset, right?
since the BA's only battery activated wake-up is in the cradle and we are not talking about soft reset, my first guess is, the battery is not to blame.
have you checked whether you can use your camera at all time? i mean, the camera_detect does not usually run at all times but if the camera connector is a little lose, from now and then it could "discover" the new camera hardware and wake up, that is unlikely for normal devices, but if yours had a crash before...
you could refer to this site for checking possible hardware reasons:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
the hardware things aside, there are also many possible software reasons for the device to wake up on:
- update of titanium weather
- automatic email checking
- cell broadcast
- if bluetooth is on
- if beam is on
- automatic update of any software...
plus of course the usual:
- incoming call
- incoming text message
- incoming mms
- upcoming calendar event...
so please check the possible software wake ups first to make sure this is really a hardware issue, because that would be a shame, that could be tricky to solve.
or let me put it this way, if it is really the moving that wakes it up, you have the first BA with accelerometer
EDIT: last but not least, it could only be a bug, maybe a hard reset or change of the rom could also be a way to go, since spontaneous waking up is a known bug for BAs
Chef_Tony
If there was only a way to hack the hardware and make this work at least on Edge. I can live with everything else, but its a shame paying for a full unlimited Internet service and only getting G connection Sighhhhhhh
Ok, I had to let that frustration out !!!!!!
Chef_Tony said:
by "it turns back on" i assume you mean it wakes up from stand by, it doesn't really start like after a soft reset, right?
since the BA's only battery activated wake-up is in the cradle and we are not talking about soft reset, my first guess is, the battery is not to blame.
have you checked whether you can use your camera at all time? i mean, the camera_detect does not usually run at all times but if the camera connector is a little lose, from now and then it could "discover" the new camera hardware and wake up, that is unlikely for normal devices, but if yours had a crash before...
you could refer to this site for checking possible hardware reasons:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
the hardware things aside, there are also many possible software reasons for the device to wake up on:
- update of titanium weather
- automatic email checking
- cell broadcast
- if bluetooth is on
- if beam is on
- automatic update of any software...
plus of course the usual:
- incoming call
- incoming text message
- incoming mms
- upcoming calendar event...
so please check the possible software wake ups first to make sure this is really a hardware issue, because that would be a shame, that could be tricky to solve.
or let me put it this way, if it is really the moving that wakes it up, you have the first BA with accelerometer
EDIT: last but not least, it could only be a bug, maybe a hard reset or change of the rom could also be a way to go, since spontaneous waking up is a known bug for BAs
Chef_Tony
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Wow! Tony! I really appreciate your complete answer. I mean it.
Yes, as you correctly assumed, I meant wake-up. It just wakes up and continues the routine WinMo operation; no soft-reset occurs.
It's less than a year that I've replaced the battery with a new one. I remember all the funny things used to happen when the old battery was dying. But non of them were similar to this one.
It can't be the Camera. Well, I'm able to use it all the time, and the "camera_detect" has been always loaded in the processes whenever I've checked it. About the looseness thing, ummm, I'm not sure. I tried to knock on it to see if it's more sensitive than other parts. I think the upper part of the device is more likely to wake it up by an easy hit (like knocking). but it's the whole upper part, not only the camera section nor the camera button.
Unfortunately, the software possibility, is unlikely to be the problem:
I've used many ROMs on my lovely BA which 3-4 times of them taken place since the wake-up problem.
The software and the usual reasons you counted, do wake it up. but shakes, too.
Finally, to be honest, I'm agree with you! This is the first Blue Angel with accelerometer. yeaaah! I did it!
I bet my friends that I can wake my BA up, without touching any buttons or screen! It's fun this way, but I comes to be annoying when I put it in my pocket or just put it on a table! and it wakes up... consider the forced battery consumption, unwanted screen taps if I don't lock the screen. God bless A_C! and... .
I know it's a hardware issue (((((
@raizaM: My Thought.... Have you ever taken it apart? One of my BA's had 3 loose bolts inside. All 3 were from what I think is the Radio/Antenna part at top. However, in my case, I had a rattle going inside. Thats why I put it apart. You might have something loose inside, causing a connection to arc when you knock on your phone. If you do deside to open it, there is a tutorial on the wiki on how to.
markanthonypr said:
@raizaM: My Thought.... Have you ever taken it apart? One of my BA's had 3 loose bolts inside. All 3 were from what I think is the Radio/Antenna part at top. However, in my case, I had a rattle going inside. Thats why I put it apart. You might have something loose inside, causing a connection to arc when you knock on your phone. If you do deside to open it, there is a tutorial on the wiki on how to.
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Hey mark!
I had that same issue a while back, but with only one screw (also from the same area as yours).
@raizaM
Just to knock off Chef_Tony's theory out of the table completely, try to erase camera_detect.lnk from \Windows\startup and SR your device. If Chef was right, then your issue might be gone. However, I would follow markanthony's advice and take it apart in case Chef's idea doesn't work.
Oh man, your not my hero anymore LoL.. and here I thought I would be the only one with a mechanic inside my phone.
markanthonypr said:
Oh man, your not my hero anymore LoL.. and here I thought I would be the only one with a mechanic inside my phone.
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Well, it kept me entertained when my BA would run out of juice
Thanks for your kind advices.
Actually, I tried to remove "camrea_detect" from the startup once, but any way, I gave it a shot again... no success...
Frankly, I'm a lil bit afraid to take my lovely BA apart... :-s... What if... :-(
But, I guess sooner or later I need to do so. so what the heck... lets do it.
Maybe I'll do it tonight. Guys please help me through it. I don't wanna loose my Angel!
Ton'y link provided in the previous posts, would be my start:
http://www.land-of-kain.de/ppc/mda3/disassembly/
any more advices?
raizaM: You're not going to go that far deep. Only remove the cover. If you look at picture #4 on that link, the top green area has about 6 bolts all around it. Those were the ones that were loose on mine. 2 of them were rattling inside the phone. I still can't believe they didn't cause a short circuit. You don't need to go down into the camshell area. Do you use the sliding keyboard? If so, you could have a bad flex cable. But, don't worry about tha for now. Just remove back cover and carefull inspect for loose bolts. Don't over tighten them.
all the master please help, my BA strange,,,,, the screen suddenly go dead after actived wifi or playing game, its suddenly dead, and i must push power button to turn it on again through proses like softreset, that in battery power. but if i conect in charger power mode, i turn wifi,playing game, its normal, the BA still on and working normal,
please2,,,,,if someone knows the problem please help, im desper now....
loryshoe said:
all the master please help, my BA strange,,,,, the screen suddenly go dead after actived wifi or playing game, its suddenly dead, and i must push power button to turn it on again through proses like softreset, that in battery power. but if i conect in charger power mode, i turn wifi,playing game, its normal, the BA still on and working normal,
please2,,,,,if someone knows the problem please help, im desper now....
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It seems that you have the backlight settings set to dim/turn off too fast. Go to \Settings\System\Backlight and modify the settings in there (particularly the ones labeled "On Battery Power"). Then, soft reset the device (stylus on the bottom).
Hope this helps.
markanthonypr said:
raizaM: You're not going to go that far deep. Only remove the cover. If you look at picture #4 on that link, the top green area has about 6 bolts all around it. Those were the ones that were loose on mine. 2 of them were rattling inside the phone. I still can't believe they didn't cause a short circuit. You don't need to go down into the camshell area. Do you use the sliding keyboard? If so, you could have a bad flex cable. But, don't worry about tha for now. Just remove back cover and carefull inspect for loose bolts. Don't over tighten them.
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egzthunder1 said:
It seems that you have the backlight settings set to dim/turn off too fast. Go to \Settings\System\Backlight and modify the settings in there (particularly the ones labeled "On Battery Power"). Then, soft reset the device (stylus on the bottom).
Hope this helps.
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not the setting, it got black scren, its dead screen after running wifi or application, suddenly goes dead, black screen,.
Have you tried with another battery? It sounds to me like your battery is about to die. It won't hold the heavy battery consumption of Wi-Fi and heavy CPU usage while on Games. Try with another battery. Also make sure you followed Egzthunders suggestion to change your Power Settings. If you still need help, post back and include more info about your device, such as, what version of Windows are you running and how old/new is your battery.

New to this...any help appreciated

Alright...so here goes. I have been out of the smartphone market for some time now and am getting this awesome phone tomorrow. I am friggin excited! Feels like Christmas in the summer! Verizon tells me that it will already come with the 6.1 update installed. Anyone gotten one recently to verify this, and how do I tell when I get it...also how can I tell the radio that it has? I also already wanna mod this machine, and although I am selfproclaimed computer savvy, I am a little nervous about bricking the phone. I think I def want either an iCRAP setup to piss off everyone at work, or nfsfans 6.5....although I would like to have someone walk me through it. I have to say, everyone on this forum has done an excellent job with their machines and I am impressed. Also, I don't know that this will even be an issue, but it will still need to function as a phone and pda...as I have read in a few different places that some cant use their phone function anymore, etc. And I definitely wanna get the GPS running ASAP, due to travel on the job. Any help will be greatly appreciated, and I will def help out anyone on here if I can. I also am not sure about when and when not to let customizations run...any help with that would be awesome too
i am also getting this phone from vzw thursday, they told me it comes standard with wm6.0 idk or care. as soon as i get it im gonna flash a custom rom.
Hey there, I'm a fellow Verizon user. It was kind of nerve-wracking flashing the ROM for the first time, but its really NBD once you get into it (be sure and try android too!).
Do your reading first, there are tutorials all over the place. Something to remember about customizations - Don't let them run on any official Verizon updates you see floating around the internet, as they will cripple your GPS. Don't let them run on any ROM designed for another carrier. If you're flashing a generic or Verizon-specific CUSTOM ROM, let them run.
And you can check in settings to see your radio and OS version and all that (under "about" I think, correct me if I'm wrong)
Have fun!
so if i run mr1 from verizon to get to wm6.1, then I SHOULD NOT not run customizations. What buttons do I press to do a hard reset before that comes up? But, if I were to do NFSFAN's 6.5 rom, then I SHOULD let customizations run. Also, could someone point me to a set of CLEAR directions on doing the flashes? I have read a bunch of them, and it seems they are all missing little parts.....probably something so familiar to the editor, they just forget to include in the steps.
Yes, the lack of CLEAR instructions as a stickey is a real problem on a lot of boards. I've read threads over 300 posts in order to get solid info. I don't mind searching for info, but jeesh, guys it is unbearable. Granted some of this stuff is not for the faint of heart, but there can be so much info, and sometimes it is often confusing and contradictory. The SR. members and the Admins need to get their heads together and take a month to provide the community some solid resources, and weed out some of the erroneous info here. We want to make having this phone FUN and Practical. A Case in point is trying to get GPS working. Have you guys looked at all the info on here about this. Granted there is variety of carriers, but it shouldn't be brain surgery.
Also chevyspd,you want to do a SOFT reset before the customizations. Use your stylus to depress the small hole in the bottom of the phone before they run. Should be golden. A HARD reset will restart the flashing process from scratch.
10-4....so only do a soft reset by only pressing the button in the hole on the bottom before customizations runs. That is very contradictory from about 50 other posts I've read so far. A whole bunch of them say to do a HARD reset, but I will remember not to. But, when I do a custom rom like NFSFANS, I don't have to do a reset at all....correct?
You wouldn't believe how many times I got flamed for that same kinda comment on other forums.....interestingly though....Also...if I flash to NFSFANs 6.5, are the cubes still active, or is that something from HTC that gets written over with a new rom?
So, my new phone already has 6.1 right outta the box. Interestingly enough, it went to the customizations screen as soon as I powered the phone up, so I immediately hit the soft reset. How can I tell if what I did worked, and if it didn't, how can I fix it so I can use 3rd party gps programs?
Wow; a lot of questions. I'm not sure about NFSFAN's rom. To see if the gps works, make sure you have the Settings>phone>services>location is set to on. Then make sure the external gps setting is set to Comm4, then hardware NONE, baud 4800, and allow Windows to manage gps. Do a Google search for HTC QuickGPS if it's not already on your phone (varies from carrier to carrier) and Install it; Run it, outside and allow it 10 minutes to get a lock. If gps is working, then you should be golden. You will probably need to turn the radio on after every re-boot; and be aware that leaving the radio going WILL drain you battery faster than usual. All this assumes you are using the stock rom, and not one of the custom ones; each to those varies, some work out of the box so to speak, some of them require tweaking.
Funny i just got the phone yesterday to, but i actually already had it for about a year lol, just replaced the one i broke on saturday. But honestly the first thing i did with the phone is put in my SD card and boot up Android....
I really want my GPS back again but i dont really want to go through the hassle of unlocking, flashing, unlocking, and flashing, but if you deem it neccessary. and maybe i will to one day soon. lol heres the link
http://wiki.ppchaven.com/index.php?title=Pocket_PC_WIki:FIX_VERIZON_GPS
chevyspd said:
You wouldn't believe how many times I got flamed for that same kinda comment on other forums.....interestingly though....Also...if I flash to NFSFANs 6.5, are the cubes still active, or is that something from HTC that gets written over with a new rom?
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The cube is way back when man, sorry but those things are old school already. lol so when you flash to the 6.5 NFSFAN rom it will not have the cube, but it will have titanium and manilla 2d, which in my opinion are awesome replacements
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But, if I were to do NFSFAN's 6.5 rom, then I SHOULD let customizations run?
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Yes, and remember to install the Verizon cab in his post :thumbsup:
Well, the phone didn't come with the cube anyways...lol...so anywho...I think the GPS is working anyways...just gotta find a free GPS like vznavi or something.

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