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WiFi and GPRS frustration

I have a belkin router. It works well with several laptops.
I can connect to it with my JASJAR and get an IP address.
If I sync pop3 email it uses WIFI and works as expected.
If I sync journal bar it uses WIFI and works as expected.
However if I try to use internet explorer it alway tries to start a GPRS session and refuses to work through WIFI. :evil: Why??
Ive sent hours trying every setting I can find.
Anyone have any suggestions? :?:
Jon

At least your Wifi network doesn't crash as soon as u connect the JJ. Mine doesn't even get that far...
Anyone who can help???

Hmmm I wonder if this is something in the Telstra settings Cab.
Re those having problems all on Telstra?
Might try a hard re set and then manually build the settings.
Jon

Try de activating the phone. this allows you to use IE via your wireless router.

Tried that, thanks.
I just get the "Cannot Connect" message and if I dismiss it. Nothing!
However I can sync the weather without getting the "Cannot Connect" box. SO the WiFi is working, its just that Explorer can see it.

Im running the O2 UK firmware and it works fine (auto gives prefernce to the WiFi if I am in range, try loading on the genuine Imate firmware.

Jon
I know how you feel. I can't get wifi to work. Heck, I can't even use IE when synced to the computer via USB :evil:

Have you tried messing with the settings in start/settings/connections/connections?

I finally got it working.
You have to chose the "Telstra Internet" setting in Network Managment.
Its in Settings, Connections, Advanced, Select Networks, select "Telstra Internet".
I then did, Settings, Connections, Manage existing connections, Modem, and set it to "Auto"
It uses the WiFi first and then only uses GPRS if there is no WiFi.
Hope this helps someone else !
Jon

Can anyone help me with just getting my JJ connected to the wifi network without crashing the router?

Have you tried turning off any encryption etc and re booting the router.
Then try to connect at the most basic level?

Now I'm totally confused
I don't know what is going on!
I have finally managed to use IE via Activesync, using "Telstra Internet" as my My network connects to...
I tried again to hook up to the wifi network. The router is connected to my desktop via a physical cable, and my tablet pC is connected wirelessly (my JJ syncs with the tablet). I turned to tablet off, and then connected the JJ to the desktop wirelessly. On the desktop, I am no longer able to connect to the internet, but for some reason, the JJ is able to connect to the internet :shock:
But, even if I disconnect the JJ from the network, my desktop is unable to connect back to the internet until I reboot the router. What does this all mean????

I have the same issue with my MDA Pro! i done even have the sutp option in the modem settings. I can connect to my belkin router with encryption but no response when in IE!
Anyone else got any other suggestions?

I'm beginning to think that nobody has a solution to such connection problems. Is there any hope on the horizon? Any chance of something being sorted out by MS?
BTW, how well does BT syncing/internet connection work?

Ok frustration rising.
I can connect to my Belkin wireless router with no problems but I can only log onto the router and not browse the internet!
I have checked that the proxy is not configured.
Anyone got any ideas?

Nope

GPRS Question

GPRS is new territory for me. I'm planning to apply for a GPRS acct with my telco
I'm afraid that once I've configured the settings for internet via GPRS from my telco, it will always use GPRS whenever I want to connect to the internet.
How do I switch back to normal mode when I'm at home and accessing the internet thru ActiveSync?
On my EXTENDED_ROM, there is a file called vodafone.CAB which will configure my phone with Vodafone settings (I'm with Vodafone). Whenever I run that file (after a hard reset), I cannot access the internet via ActiveSync. Everytime I run PIE, it always defaults to GPRS.
I don't know how to switch to use internet via activesync once I'm on the GPRS plan and then switch back to GPRS when I'm not at home.

If you are concerned about it using GPRS once you are connected to ActiveSync you could always switch to flight mode. Not ideal, I admit, if you use your phone alot and don't like it being turned off.
I had two profiles on mine, one GPRS and one dial up. Even when I set the default to the dial up (CSD) it still tried to use GPRS. Fault with my pocket PC only? maybe. What was strange was that even after I deleted the GPRS profile and soft reset it still was using GPRS! I had to hard reset in the end.
So, I would backup your pocket PC before installing the GPRS profiles.
If you have a large bandwidth then it probably won't matter to you but if not I would definately install a bandwidth monitor as you may also find that some apps you install may also try to periodically get internet access.
The problem with Windows Mobile 2003 is that you can't seem to tell it to ask you first. Microsoft seem to think that you either want GPRS on permanently or don't use it at all. I am sure there are a lot of people out there who just want to use it from time to time. If an app wants internet it just goes and gets it!
Having said that, even with CSD, it will still dial out when it wants. To get around that problem I created 2 profiles, one of which doesn't have a userid and password. I set the default profile to the one without userid. That way if something tries to get internet access it first asks the user to enter their userid and password - in effect it safeguards against a rogue dial out.
I personally don't use GPRS as I found out that my CSD access will use my free minutes. Since I hardly use my phone for voice calls I may as well make use of the free minutes for internet access.

Ok did some searching around ppcsg, apparently you can turn off GRPS by pressing the RED button (the disconnect talk button) and holding it for a few seconds.
Or use this tool
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1123
Question is whether once the GPRS is turned off, will internet access be automatically be directed to the ActiveSync connection (assuming I'm connected via ActiveSync)

To use internet via AS you should configure 'my work network' correctly under the 'connections' settings. The 'my isp' connection is meant for dial-up & gprs access to the internet.
Sadly can't tell how to do it in detail as my magician is my wireless modem & at work the connection isn't allowed. Maybe the help files are of any use in this.
Cheers, M

yes, mine, just automatically uses my internet connection thro' my PC with AS, but as soon as I disconnect from my PC, my Qtek switches over to GPRS.. which is pretty cool.

dood, care to share how you achieve this?

I suppose the question is, if you are connected to a PC which is on the internet, why would you want internet access on the Magician anyway? Why not just use Thunderbird or other web browser?
Outlook will sync the inbox for e-mail when connected via activesync...

The joy of surfing the net while watching TV lying on the bed..can't really do that wth a laptop..too heavy

Using internet on Mini s

I've just managed to setup my wireless conection on the mini s and connected up to internet explorer.
When i was messing about the other day and couldn't get wireless working everytime i opened up IE it tried to connect via GPRS but failed (i don't want to connect through anything that i have to pay for!!)
Anyway today i reset machine, setup as corporate and played with my router settings and its connected upto wireless. Now i've gone into IE and it connected up to the webpage straight away.
Question is, it just connected straight in, so i want to make sure that i'm not on GPRS or anything, how do i do that?
Cheers

Sorry I'm a new user and have yet to connect to my wireless network but I thought you could just turn on flight mode and connect using just the pc side of the phone???

I think I have worked it out now. I am typing on the mini s now, great piece of kit! I have noticed that if you are on gprs (or its trying to connect through that) then a G appears where the connection icon is. that means I am happy because my wireless connection is working every time now and its not connecting through gprs!

can't connect to skype

I used to have it and running fine on my ppc but i uninstalled it because not many of my friends use skype. So now that there's free skype out calling i thought i'd give it a go. I reinstalled it, version 2.0.0.51, and when i attempt to connect it warns me "Skype needs an internet connection to function. Do you want skype to try to connect to the internet through a cellular connection? Warning: Your mobile service provider may charge for an Internet connection. Please contact your provider for pricing."
I click Yes then another warning comes up "Unable to connect to the Internet. Please chec your network settings." When i click No it just doesn't try to log in.
This happens when i'm connected through wifi and activeSync via USB. Any one know whats wrong?

Hi All,
Can anyone help in this, i have got the same case
do appreciate for helping

ME Too!! Also-tried a new network connection (Work Network) with the same settings as EDGE but nothing new happens.

magicer said:
Hi All,
Can anyone help in this, i have got the same case
do appreciate for helping[/quote
try to launch pocket ie first and when you are already connected in GPRS/Edge then try to connect your skype. . . that works for me but i hope there's more easy step than that. . . without permanently connecting to the GPRS/Edge
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Solution
Hi everyone,
I had the same problem. I've installed Skype, and used it once through GPRS/HSDPA. Then, I've used it through Wifi. It still worked, but the next time I tried to connect through GPRS/HSDPA I had the "Unable to connect to the internet" issue.
Here is what I did to fix it:
Connect the phone to the PC with ActiveSync and open the explorer. Make sure Skype is not running. Browse to the directory \Application Data and delete the Skype subdirectory. This folder contains your personal settings. Next, connect again to Wifi, and start Skype. You will now get the initial setup of Skype, and I can connect. (I could not connect without connecting to Wifi for some reason) Now, instead of logging out, I clicked on "Menu" and "Quit". After disabling Wifi, I restarted Skype and tried to connect. this time I again got the message if I wanted to connect through a cellular connection, but this time I could connect after clicking "Yes".
So this worked for me. I don't believe it is a permanent solution however. Let's wait for the next time the program c***s up.
Cheers,
Wim

thoughts on connecting through CRADLE > WIFI > GPRS in order.

hey guys heres abit of unusal question? (to be honest i dont think any of us ask any usual questions )
anyway what im trying to do is find out if there is a way to force a pda when its trying to connect to the internet to first check if internet is avaible through active sync (cradle or usb cable) then to check if WIFI is avaible then if thats not avaible to use gprs - but to use gprs as a last resort.
so the way it will work is an application needs to connect to the internet it first is forced to check for a connection through active sync if thats not avaible then to see if there can be a wifi conenction established if that fails then to connect to gprs and in the order.
i was hoping i could find what scrpits are used when the connections are established and then make a script to run the will force the device to do this.
Or even if there is a reg edit that I can do that will allow me to get this done? (would regedits be possable for this)
Id appericate your thoughts on this guys?

That's how it does work, doesn't it? At least, that's how mine works...

mine tends to connect to whatever it was connected to first - e.g. if I have messenger open via GPRS and then connect to my WiFi network, it will still use the GPRS for it's internet connection. Even if I plug it into the PC, it still uses GPRS.
This can be costly.