Can someone try reading a DRM eBook stored on the SD with the latest version of MS Reader for PPC and listen to music stored on the SD card at the same time. I have found MS Reader runs out of RAM or cannot access parts of the ebook. I have done this type of operaiton with the SE P9xx and Nok 9500 without any problems so I know with most devices you should be able to have multiple accesses to the SD card as the same time.
Okay have now established that the problem is with the latest version of MS Reader for WM5. It has some serious bugs where it claims it does not have suffient RAM when there is 22MB free!
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Hi all!
I'm Markino from Italy and I've got some question about I-Mate Jam.
I don't undertand the memory management of this device: how the RAM-ROM and MMC are used by the Windows Mobile 2003 SE? If I install an application, where the files are stored? If the battery drops down what I'll lose?
Many thanks and sorry for my bad English!
Marco
Marco, in theory you should let Windows to manage your memory. The i-mate JAM has 64MB of ROM and 64MB of RAM. The ROM is mostly occupied with OS and other 3rd party software that installs automatically when you hard reset the phone. Part of this ROM is also used when using the "Permanent Storage" feature of the OS, where it lets you save some files, contacts, etc.
What should really interest you is the RAM. The OS uses this RAM for running programs (like the RAM on your PC) and the rest is used for storage. If you go to Start -> Settings -> Memory, the OS will tell you how much of your RAM is being used for Running Programs and how much is used for Storage.
The safest place for your data would be an SD Card, as anything stored on the SD card will stay in tact after a hard reset.
Thanks kta! You're great!
Well.. in your opinion what is the best way to use the Jam's RAM with a 512MB SD installed?
I can configure the device to use all the RAM space to run program and store all the file and app. in the SD or it's better to use a part of RAM to some particoular application?
The SD Ultra II are really faster in the Jam?
The more free RAM you have the faster your mobile works. I would suggest installing most of your programs on the storage card. Before installing a program make sure that it can run smoothly on an SD card. Most programs do work well when installed on the storage card so it shouldn never be a problem.
Having said that, RAM is MUCH faster than an SD card, although modern SD cards like the UltraII give over 9MB per second (66x) write speed.
A more complex option (the one I'm using) is to install a hacked ROM (aka Big Storage ROM) where you will be able to gain an extra 27MB of Storage (i.e. in RAM). You can then use this storage space for installing programs and these should work slightly faster than when installed on an SD card. However, installing the hacked ROM requires some experience with ROMS and would not suggest you go for it unless you want to end up with your JAM stuck in bootloader mode :wink:
With regards to SD cards, the faster the speed (i.e. 40x, 66x, 133x) the better.
And if you intend to use your JAM as an MP3 player I would suggest going for a 1GB or 2GB SD card. The price difference usually justifies the extra space! Before buying a 2GB card, check these forums for compatibility issues as some of them did not work on the JAM.
Hope I didn't confuse you more!
SD card speed on the JAM makes no difference for operating the device, since the JAM can only read/write the SD card at the standard speed - buying a faster card makes no difference.
A faster card is useful if you frequently copy large files between your SD card and your PC, but for the JAM it makes no difference.
Microsoft said in WIN2003SE it's always recommended to install mostly used programs into MAIN memory cause it's way way way faster than the extended rom or storage card. So on my old PDA2k I installed regularely used programs like Pocket Informant, Voice Command etc.. on the internal memory for enhanced speed.
I was wondering if anyone knows/ did benchmarks of Read/Write/Access Speed of all 3 memory mediums available to us JJ/Exec users ? That is Internal memory, Extended Rom (Which was unlocked thanks to buzz) as well as an SD Card.
Thanks guys
MOBILER
I have a 60x SD card - at least I am TOLD it is a 60x card - but Pocket Mechanic benchmark tells me it is just 4x. (Perhaps someone else who has PM could give us THEIR SD card benchmark figures for comparison?)
It was suggested on this forum the problem might not be in the card but in the SD port. If so, the Universal's SD port could be a serious hindrance to good performance.
I´ve been trying to copy large files, as movies or maps databases to my mini sd and they are all getting corrupted.
Has anyone experienced this issue already? Do you think that it might be a problem with the phont or with the memory stick?
Thanks
Cesar
i remember that long ago i had a similar problem. Then, i formatted the mini sd card on the pc with FAT32 and it is working fine since then.
Are you copying direct to the card in a card reader, or using ActiveSync?
AS has always had a tendency to corrupt large files, and is limited to USB1 transfer rates. Originally the file size limit was about 14MB but I think AS4.0 is capable of a bit more
Anything more than 30MB would be best transferred with a card reader. If you already have corrupt files, I'd suggest copying what you have to the PC, then as suggested above, do a reformat (as long as the card is no larger than 2GB); MiniSD Cards larger than 2GB (as opposed to SDHC, which works in WM6) need special formatting, as the cluster size is modified.
Thanks for the tips. I´ve been using ActiveSync, but i´m going to buy a card reader.
I was thinking that it was a problem with my phone and i´m really glad to know that it´s normal!
Thanks
NeilM said:
Are you copying direct to the card in a card reader, or using ActiveSync?
AS has always had a tendency to corrupt large files, and is limited to USB1 transfer rates. Originally the file size limit was about 14MB but I think AS4.0 is capable of a bit more
Anything more than 30MB would be best transferred with a card reader. If you already have corrupt files, I'd suggest copying what you have to the PC, then as suggested above, do a reformat (as long as the card is no larger than 2GB); MiniSD Cards larger than 2GB (as opposed to SDHC, which works in WM6) need special formatting, as the cluster size is modified.
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I bought A Sandisk 1GB Mini SD Card off of ebay for $10
-just the the card no card reader, or adaptor of any sort.
I insert it into my wizard, and it fits it with the spring loaded mechnism fine, but when I go to memory managment, im not sure if it knows it's there or not
Memory management will say that, that "external storage": "Not Installed"?
But when I go to take pictures, I go to the utilities/options menu, then general tab, and it doesnt even acknowledge that theres their a card in the slot, only seeing system memory.
So my question is, are their any programs that can/will format my card, or implement something to make it work?
I have Total Commander(not installed), and thinking about downloading this program called "SKTools". Would these programs work.
Cause not only is this a brand new card, but i have pictures and programs that I want to get installed on this device.
-Ive already amazed myself by using the Lockiwiz, to unlock my phone(having only 2-days worth of exp with a smartphone device)
-taken a few pictures, which i have to downloading off my wizard through activesync
-An some other freeware programs that want to install themselves on the system memory
Please help, all/ and any post greatly appreciated
Thanks!
EDIT: I downloaded SKTools onto my device, and its a cool program( I think its a alternate version of total commander but you pay for it?), but it doesnt recognize my Mini SD card either!!
-I also found this program called "WM5Storage", in the description it say that it's specialty is dealing with "external storage", downloading/ and uploading without the need of activesync?
I used Paragon Partition Manager to partition my minisdhc
panasonic
SDFormatter
the setup maybe you find in www
here is the program-folder,
just extract to c:\programs\
or use a CANON DIGITAL IXUS 65 or else DigiCam
Confound it. I have tried to install USB HDD and WM5 Storage with the same results, both are unable to work and I receive a message asking to close running applications and try again.......... The same result occurs after following these instructions. Is it known, when usings WM 6.1 Rom that these two programs do not work? Doubtful.
I have this program running on an HTC Universal WM 6.0 16gb class 4. My 8gb micro SD card in an O2 orbit 2 fails repeatedly to run either of these programs. Are there issues with either of these two programs an micro SD cards? Experiences and views would be helpful.
Thanks
Thirdhand
Use the search function. These questions have been answered before. It's not WM6 which is incompatible but the chipset (eg. Qualcomm MSM7200) which is used in the Kaiser and Polaris which prevents the programs to work.
Just to keep poise (and offcourse to rap the knuckle for not searching first) a version of Card Export by Softick is available which indeed works on the Polaris, turning the 8gb of space into readable storage. Albeit a contradiction.